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Carin4Narron
02-09-2009, 01:17 PM
Should he resign as commissioner of baseball over the steriods issue/cover up because it happened under his watch?

Orodle
02-09-2009, 01:36 PM
Honestly I cant soley blame Bud on the steriods..........BUT everything else that has also happend under his reign makes him easily the worst commissioner ever. Baseball needs a baseball guy running things, of course the owners dont know anything about baseball themselves so that will never happen.

Crazy salaries, no salary cap, strike, interleague play, too much expansion, stupid division tie coin flip rule that only wasnt changed till this comming season, All-Star game tie..........

Moosie52
02-09-2009, 01:49 PM
Bud was an owner when performance enhancing drugs became commonplace. He's as much to blame as anyone who owned a team and benefitted from artificially improved performances.

Carin4Narron
02-09-2009, 01:53 PM
Bud was an owner when performance enhancing drugs became commonplace. He's as much to blame as anyone who owned a team and benefitted from artificially improved performances.
Bingo,my friend

fourrunhomer
02-09-2009, 05:38 PM
He should resign for this reason and many more. He is terrible for the game.

Carin4Narron
02-09-2009, 05:41 PM
He should resign for this reason and many more. He is terrible for the game.
Amen brother!

demas863
02-09-2009, 08:44 PM
No way! He's a beacon of integrity. Just cut his annual compensation from $17.5 milion to $15 miilion. :beerme:

Handofdeath
02-09-2009, 08:44 PM
Yes, he should resign because he's been horrible for the game. But, what can you expect from a former used car salesman?

Jerome
02-09-2009, 09:18 PM
I'm not sure if this has been mentioned yet, but you know who isn't a good commissioner...Bud Selig.


http://jeromesredscare.blogspot.com

improbus
02-09-2009, 09:54 PM
What Bud should have done was this. He should have unilaterally brought in the Olympic Drug Testing program which has been working hard for 20+ years on testing and dared the players to strike. Imagine the PR nightmare for the players. On one side, you could out half of your union for the frauds and cheats that they are, or you fight and look like you are defending steroids and steroid users. It is a lose lose situation for the players and a win win for baseball.

I do understand Bud's position. He was trying to recover from the '94 strike and didn't want WWII with the union. I'm sure that most of us put in that position would have shut our mouth and taken the cash.

BTW, if Bud ever does resign, who would replace him? I have stated in the past on this board that I think George W. Bush will take over. He loves the game and isn't really doing much right now.

Slyder
02-09-2009, 10:43 PM
What Bud should have done was this. He should have unilaterally brought in the Olympic Drug Testing program which has been working hard for 20+ years on testing and dared the players to strike. Imagine the PR nightmare for the players. On one side, you could out half of your union for the frauds and cheats that they are, or you fight and look like you are defending steroids and steroid users. It is a lose lose situation for the players and a win win for baseball.

I do understand Bud's position. He was trying to recover from the '94 strike and didn't want WWII with the union. I'm sure that most of us put in that position would have shut our mouth and taken the cash.

BTW, if Bud ever does resign, who would replace him? I have stated in the past on this board that I think George W. Bush will take over. He loves the game and isn't really doing much right now.

Actually LEADING would have hurt the owner's bottom line... hence why it was never done and probably will never be done. Bud's in the office because he was good at making the owner's bottom lines nice and phat. Granted we as fans took it in the rump but very few will argue that owners got a great deal out of Bud.

mlh1981
02-09-2009, 11:57 PM
He's had some good and bad, but his bad is REALLY bad.

Captain Hook
02-10-2009, 12:34 AM
I just wish he would go back to running the Brew Crew so the Reds would have 2 teams they could finish ahead of.

Red in Atl
02-10-2009, 03:35 PM
Can anyone name one good thing Bud Selig has done for Baseball? Does it justify the 17.5 million dollar contract?

BTW, how many years has he been making that kind of salary? What is happening to this freakin' world?

redsfandan
02-11-2009, 01:19 PM
I wish I had checked the vote results before I voted just so I'd know who voted to keep him.

GOYA
02-11-2009, 05:35 PM
I don't put blame on Selig for players taking steroids. But he has been a joke since he's been commissioner. His glee over the Rays doing as well as they did in 2008 and claiming that as proof that the system is working is proof enough. The entire Marlins roster earned less salary than A-Roid. 6 of the top 8 salaried teams made the playoffs with the Mets barely missing out which would have made it 7 of 8. Yeah, the system is working, alright.

improbus
02-12-2009, 08:13 PM
Bud's comments about A-Rod are pathetic, hollow, and disheartening. He did little to nothing to prevent this problem and his pointed words about A-Rod "shaming" the game are some of the most ill conceived I've ever heard. Bud, those who live in glass houses....

NarrowStairs
02-12-2009, 08:46 PM
He's a real piece of crap. He knew what was going on. He didn't do anything about it until he was forced to do so.

MLB needs a commissioner like Goodell of the NFL.

improbus
02-12-2009, 08:52 PM
He's a real piece of crap. He knew what was going on. He didn't do anything about it until he was forced to do so.

MLB needs a commissioner like Goodell of the NFL.
Goodell isn't exactly forcing the steroid issue in football either. If football fans had numbers like 61 that mattered, then they might push the same way. In a way, I think steroids in the NFL are Pandora's Box. Nobody wants to open it to see what they might find.

DTCromer
02-12-2009, 10:10 PM
Honestly I cant soley blame Bud on the steriods..........BUT everything else that has also happend under his reign makes him easily the worst commissioner ever. Baseball needs a baseball guy running things, of course the owners dont know anything about baseball themselves so that will never happen.

Crazy salaries, no salary cap, strike, interleague play, too much expansion, stupid division tie coin flip rule that only wasnt changed till this comming season, All-Star game tie..........

I'll rip on Bud as much as the next game, but one of the most overblown criticisms I've seen any man get was for the AS game tie. It's an AS Game where no one else was eligible to play. Other team owners and managers would've went ballistic if he let that game play on with new pitchers.

DTCromer
02-12-2009, 10:11 PM
Goodell isn't exactly forcing the steroid issue in football either. If football fans had numbers like 61 that mattered, then they might push the same way. In a way, I think steroids in the NFL are Pandora's Box. Nobody wants to open it to see what they might find.

LOL. . you mean Comrade Goodell?

improbus
02-12-2009, 10:35 PM
LOL. . you mean Comrade Goodell?
Goodell, like all commissioners, makes all of his decisions based on PR, which leads directly to sponsorship, which directly leads to money. Selig and Stern do the same thing. I'm not sure what Bettman does...

goreds2
03-02-2009, 10:01 AM
I said yes to resign and to hire Bob Costas. :)

ciesaro
03-02-2009, 10:31 AM
"Pollyanna Bud" makes Bowie Kuhn look like a brain surgeon.

goreds2
03-02-2009, 10:43 AM
"Pollyanna Bud" makes Bowie Kuhn look like a brain surgeon.

Kuhn possibly cost us the 1978 World Series due to him stopping the Vida Blue trade to us. :angry:

Which by the way would have prevented Sparky from getting fired.

will5979
03-02-2009, 04:54 PM
Selig is a joke...ignores too much crap that happens in baseball (and he doesn't want to hear heads or tails of PEte Rose's name).

It just ain't right. All these juicer and drug addicts are getting nothing but a slap on the wrist while Rose gets the shaft for betting on a few games. :thumbdown

Eric_the_Red
03-02-2009, 05:49 PM
Can we PLEASE stop comparing PED users to Pete Rose? Pete Rose broke the rules...period. He needs to accept responsibility. If I murder someone, should I be released because OJ Simpson was? (An extremem example, I know, but yeesh...Pete made his bed to lie in.)

will5979
03-02-2009, 07:32 PM
Can we PLEASE stop comparing PED users to Pete Rose? Pete Rose broke the rules...period. He needs to accept responsibility. If I murder someone, should I be released because OJ Simpson was? (An extremem example, I know, but yeesh...Pete made his bed to lie in.)

Is it right that drug abusers not just PED but also Darryl Strawberry get a slap on the wrist whilst Pete gets the ultimate punishment? Gambling is an addiction just like drugs and if baseball caters to the roid ragers then they shoudl cater to the gamblers as well.

Eric_the_Red
03-02-2009, 08:43 PM
Is it right? I don't know, perhaps not. But was is right, and what is the rule, are two different things.

PEDS weren't against the rules for a long time. Street drugs have penalties (suspensions). Gambling carries a lifetime ban.

Like it or not, Pete knew the rules, and intentionally broke them.

Cincyfan4ever
03-04-2009, 01:24 PM
He's a real piece of crap. He knew what was going on. He didn't do anything about it until he was forced to do so.

MLB needs a commissioner like Goodell of the NFL.

I agree. During these tough economic times Selig increased his pay while Goodell took a two million dollar pay cut to save jobs within the nfl.

will5979
03-04-2009, 01:39 PM
Like it or not, Pete knew the rules, and intentionally broke them.

I'm just saying its a double standard for MLB to cater to drug abusers and roid ragers, give them a slap on the wrist while if you gamble you're done...