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Stephenk29
03-04-2009, 09:07 PM
JJ. Hardy
Sorry for the delay, had baseball practice then took the seniors to their little dinner thingy
Stephenk29
03-04-2009, 09:43 PM
nate took Lackey and Jeter, while I took Jon Lester.
Reds77 is up
reds77
03-04-2009, 10:59 PM
Made my pick, back to TRF.
reds77
03-04-2009, 11:00 PM
JJ. Hardy
Sorry for the delay, had baseball practice then took the seniors to their little dinner thingy
You play or coach?
Stephenk29
03-04-2009, 11:04 PM
You play or coach?
assistant coach for high school ball
reds77
03-05-2009, 06:59 AM
assistant coach for high school ball
Cool, I teach high school myself; coached JV baseball about 10 years ago haha.
I just took Cliff Lee. Baseclogger is on the clock.
*BaseClogger*
03-05-2009, 12:40 PM
Ewww you guys get up too early. Ryan Zimmerman is off the board...
mbgrayson
03-05-2009, 03:45 PM
Not sure what time it happened, but I see that Gilpdawg took Johnny Peralta with pick 8.6. but did not post a message, so i don't know when CRF2000's twelve hour time started.
*BaseClogger*
03-05-2009, 04:04 PM
Let's call it 3:30 because I saw it about that time too...
redsfandan
03-05-2009, 04:29 PM
Not sure what time it happened, but I see that Gilpdawg took Johnny Peralta with pick 8.6. but did not post a message, so i don't know when CRF2000's twelve hour time started.
According to the transactions page Gilpdawg added Jhonny Peralta at 1:44 pm.
cinredsfan2000
03-05-2009, 04:51 PM
Ryan Doumit Off the board
redsfandan
03-05-2009, 05:03 PM
Wow that was quick(er). ;) Now I'm just curious why I keep receiving emails that I'm up when I'm not. :confused:
cinredsfan2000
03-05-2009, 05:35 PM
Wow that was quick(er). ;) Now I'm just curious why I keep receiving emails that I'm up when I'm not. :confused:
I guess i had the draft order wrong :confused::confused::D
mbgrayson
03-05-2009, 10:53 PM
With pick 8.9, Adrian Beltre is off the board....
gilpdawg
03-06-2009, 12:08 AM
Not sure what time it happened, but I see that Gilpdawg took Johnny Peralta with pick 8.6. but did not post a message, so i don't know when CRF2000's twelve hour time started.
Sorry about that guys. I totally spaced out on that.
camisadelgolf
03-06-2009, 12:09 AM
I took EE. AtomicDumpling is up.
AtomicDumpling
03-06-2009, 12:33 AM
Jermaine Dye has been consumed by the Atomic Dumpling to fuel its mighty engines of war.
Redsfandan is on the clock for the next two picks.
redsfandan
03-06-2009, 01:12 AM
My picks are available.
AtomicDumpling
03-06-2009, 04:00 AM
Redsfandan and WilyMoROCKS have agreed to a trade of draft picks.
Redsfandan gets WMR's picks in the 10th, 11th, 14th, 16th and 27th rounds.
WMR gets redsfandan's picks in the 8th, 10th, 12th, 18th and 28th rounds.
WilyMoROCKS is now on the clock for the last pick of round 8. He will be followed by redsfandan for pick 9.1 and Atomic Dumpling for pick 9.2.
redsfandan
03-06-2009, 04:07 AM
uhhh not yet
AtomicDumpling
03-06-2009, 05:19 AM
uhhh not yet
redsfandan, please clear your PM box. It is full.
redsfandan
03-06-2009, 07:20 AM
Here's the redone deal:
Redsfandan gets WMR's picks in the 10th, 13th, 16th and 21st rounds.
WMR gets redsfandan's picks in the 8th, 14th, 18th and 22nd rounds.
I am now officially nuts and need some sleep. nite nite
Dan and I were able to reach an agreement on a revised trade.
Redsfandan gets WMR's picks in the 10th, 13th, 16th and 21st rounds.
WMR gets redsfandan's picks in the 8th, 14th, 18th and 22nd rounds.
reds77
03-06-2009, 02:31 PM
Haha so after this major deal, do we know whose turn it is to pick? :)
AtomicDumpling
03-06-2009, 03:33 PM
It is redsfandan's turn to draft.
redsfandan
03-06-2009, 03:57 PM
I took Justin Upton. Atomic Dumpling is up now.
AtomicDumpling
03-06-2009, 04:36 PM
Robinson Cano has been consumed by the Atomic Dumpling to fuel his mighty engines of war.
Camisadelgolf is now on the clock.
camisadelgolf
03-06-2009, 06:15 PM
I wanted both Uptons. :(
I'll take Alex Gordon. mbgrayson is up.
mbgrayson
03-06-2009, 08:12 PM
I have taken Andre Ethier of the Los Angeles Dodgeros with pick 9.4
WMR is on the clock...
http://graphics.boston.com/resize/bonzai-fba/AP_Photo/2008/04/08/1207689268_5257/539w.jpg
*BaseClogger*
03-07-2009, 02:20 AM
What is an Atomic Dumpling?
Stephenk29
03-07-2009, 02:41 AM
What is an Atomic Dumpling?
Someone who tends to have trouble controlling their bowl movements.:eek:
AtomicDumpling
03-07-2009, 01:10 PM
What is an Atomic Dumpling?
You're fixin' to find out the hard way son. ;)
AtomicDumpling
03-07-2009, 01:16 PM
Someone who tends to have trouble controlling their bowl movements.:eek:
I wield my bowels with menace and malice.
Such comments only make you the focus of the Atomic Dumpling's war machines. You will soon comprehend the foolishness of your ways while your loved ones wail and mourn your folly.
cinredsfan2000
03-07-2009, 09:29 PM
king felix is now off the board :thumbup:No idea who's on the clock now :confused:
reds77
03-08-2009, 08:27 AM
I just picked at 9.10 and skipped 9.9.
OK, I took Oswalt and Mike Aviles. Back to StephenK.
Stephenk29
03-08-2009, 01:53 PM
Shields and Damon, TRF took Rivera
What is an Atomic Dumpling?
If you take an ATOMIC DUMPLING then you end up with a CLOGGED TOILET
*BaseClogger*
03-08-2009, 03:31 PM
Run on SP?
*BaseClogger*
03-08-2009, 04:53 PM
Does anybody else feel like doing another draft recap because I am lazy?
Stephenk29
03-08-2009, 05:13 PM
Run on SP?
by all means, go ahead:D
redsfandan
03-08-2009, 11:14 PM
I have 2 of the next 6 picks. I have to leave but IF someone is interested in one, or both, pick(s) I need you to let me know with an offer asap. If I don't have any serious offers for my first pick (after the pick that's on the clock now) I'll go ahead and use that pick by 7 am.
AtomicDumpling
03-09-2009, 12:54 AM
CRF2000 is on the clock for pick 10.7 - His 12 hours started at 7:52pm.
Pick 10.8 belongs to redsfandan because of the trade with WilyMoROCKS.
camisadelgolf
03-09-2009, 01:31 AM
Doesn't redsfandan have three of the next six picks?
camisadelgolf
03-09-2009, 01:42 AM
redsfandan, I emailed you an offer.
AtomicDumpling
03-09-2009, 02:01 AM
Doesn't redsfandan have three of the next six picks?
He traded pick 11.1 to me back in the first trade.
camisadelgolf
03-09-2009, 02:22 AM
Oops. I guess I'll have to send him a new offer.
AtomicDumpling
03-09-2009, 03:08 AM
Does anybody else feel like doing another draft recap because I am lazy?
Here is an updated draft summary.
Note also the draft order for rounds 10 and 11 has been updated to reflect the traded draft picks.
Pick Team Round.pick Player
1 redsfandan 1.1 Hanley Ramirez
2 Atomic Dumpling 1.2 David Wright
3 camisadelgolf is #1 1.3 Albert Pujols
4 mbgrayson 1.4 Jose Reyes
5 WMR Ghetty Green 1.5 Alex Rodriguez
6 CRF2000 1.6 Mark Teixeira
7 gilpdawg 1.7 Tim Lincecum
8 *BaseClogger* 1.8 Grady Sizemore
9 TRF's debacle 1.9 Roy Halladay
10 reds77 1.10 Evan Longoria
11 stephenk29 1.11 Miguel Cabrera
12 nate 1.12 Ryan Braun
Round 2
13 nate 2.1 Ryan Howard
14 stephenk29 2.2 Chase Utley
15 reds77 2.3 Jimmy Rollins
16 TRF's debacle 2.4 Joey Votto
17 *BaseClogger* 2.5 Carlos Beltran
18 gilpdawg 2.6 Josh Hamilton
19 CRF2000 2.7 Alfonso Soriano
20 WMR Ghetty Green 2.8 Ian Kinsler
21 mbgrayson 2.9 Dustin Pedroia
22 camisadelgolf is #1 2.10 B.J. Upton
23 Atomic Dumpling 2.11 Johan Santana
24 redsfandan 2.12 Aramis Ramirez
Round 3
25 Atomic Dumpling 3.1 CC Sabathia
26 Atomic Dumpling 3.2 Carl Crawford
27 camisadelgolf is #1 3.3 Vladimir Guerrero
28 mbgrayson 3.4 Prince Fielder
29 WMR Ghetty Green 3.5 Carlos Quentin
30 CRF2000 3.6 Kevin Youkilis
31 gilpdawg 3.7 Brandon Webb
32 *BaseClogger* 3.8 Carlos Lee
33 TRF's debacle 3.9 Manny Ramirez
34 reds77 3.10 Matt Holliday
35 stephenk29 3.11 Nick Markakis
36 nate 3.12 Cole Hamels
Round 4
37 nate 4.1 Russell Martin
38 stephenk29 4.2 Justin Morneau
39 reds77 4.3 Jason Bay
40 TRF's debacle 4.4 Ervin Santana
41 *BaseClogger* 4.5 David Ortiz
42 gilpdawg 4.6 Lance Berkman
43 CRF2000 4.7 Brandon Phillips
44 WMR Ghetty Green 4.8 Brian McCann
45 mbgrayson 4.9 Joe Mauer
46 camisadelgolf is #1 4.10 Brian Roberts
47 Atomic Dumpling 4.11 Matt Kemp
48 redsfandan 4.12 Alexei Ramirez
Round 5
49 redsfandan 5.1 Chris Davis
50 redsfandan 5.2 Matt Wieters
51 camisadelgolf is #1 5.3 Geovany Soto
52 mbgrayson 5.4 Jay Bruce
53 WMR Ghetty Green 5.5 Jonathan Papelbon
54 CRF2000 5.6 Jacoby Ellsbury
55 gilpdawg 5.7 Alex Rios
56 *BaseClogger* 5.8 Ichiro Suzuki
57 TRF's debacle 5.9 Ryan Ludwick
58 reds77 5.10 Adrian Gonzalez
59 stephenk29 5.11 Nate McLouth
60 nate 5.12 Chipper Jones
Round 6
61 nate 6.1 Adam Dunn
62 stephenk29 6.2 Shane Victorino
63 reds77 6.3 Dan Uggla
64 TRF's debacle 6.4 Dan Haren
65 *BaseClogger* 6.5 Jake Peavy
66 gilpdawg 6.6 Curtis Granderson
67 CRF2000 6.7 Hunter Pence
68 WMR Ghetty Green 6.8 Francisco Liriano
69 mbgrayson 6.9 Corey Hart
70 camisadelgolf is #1 6.10 Francisco Rodriguez
71 redsfandan 6.11 Magglio Ordonez
72 redsfandan 6.12 Yovani Gallardo
Round 7
73 redsfandan 7.1 Joba Chamberlain
74 Atomic Dumpling 7.2 Victor Martinez
75 camisadelgolf is #1 7.3 Stephen Drew
76 mbgrayson 7.4 Chad Billingsley
77 WMR Ghetty Green 7.5 Troy Tulowitzki
78 CRF2000 7.6 Michael Young
79 gilpdawg 7.7 Garrett Atkins
80 *BaseClogger* 7.8 Carlos Pena
81 TRF's debacle 7.9 Rafael Furcal
82 reds77 7.10 Derrek Lee
83 stephenk29 7.11 JJ Hardy
84 nate 7.12 John Lackey
Round 8
85 nate 8.1 Derek Jeter
86 stephenk29 8.2 John Lester
87 reds77 8.3 Bobby Abreu
88 TRF's debacle 8.4 Cliff Lee
89 *BaseClogger* 8.5 Ryan Zimmerman
90 gilpdawg 8.6 Jhonny Peralta
91 CRF2000 8.7 Ryan Doumit
92 WMR Ghetty Green 8.8 Aubrey Huff
93 mbgrayson 8.9 Adrian Beltre
94 camisadelgolf is #1 8.10 Edwin Encarnacion
95 Atomic Dumpling 8.11 Jermaine Dye
96 WMR Ghetty Green 8.12 Lastings Milledge
Round 9
97 redsfandan 9.1 Justin Upton
98 Atomic Dumpling 9.2 Robinson Cano
99 camisadelgolf is #1 9.3 Alex Gordon
100 mbgrayson 9.4 Andre Ethier
101 WMR Ghetty Green 9.5 Chris Young (OF)
102 CRF2000 9.6 Felix Hernandez
103 gilpdawg 9.7 Chone Figgins
104 *BaseClogger* 9.8 Josh Beckett
105 TRF's debacle 9.9 Mariano Rivera
106 reds77 9.10 Carlos Delgado
107 stephenk29 9.11 James Shields
108 nate 9.12 Roy Oswalt
Round 10
109 nate 10.1 Mike Aviles
110 stephenk29 10.2 Johnny Damon
111 reds77 10.3 Rich Harden
112 TRF's debacle 10.4 Joakim Soria
113 *BaseClogger* 10.5 Conor Jackson
114 gilpdawg 10.6 Edinson Volquez
115 CRF2000 10.7
116 redsfandan 10.8
117 mbgrayson 10.9
118 camisadelgolf is #1 10.10
119 Atomic Dumpling 10.11
120 redsfandan 10.12
Round 11
121 Atomic Dumpling 11.1
122 Atomic Dumpling 11.2
123 camisadelgolf is #1 11.3
124 mbgrayson 11.4
125 WMR Ghetty Green 11.5
126 CRF2000 11.6
127 gilpdawg 11.7
128 *BaseClogger* 11.8
129 TRF's debacle 11.9
130 reds77 11.10
131 stephenk29 11.11
132 nate 11.12
Ervin Santana has elbow tightness.
fan damn tastic.
camisadelgolf
03-09-2009, 01:03 PM
redsfandan, I sent a new offer through email.
mbgrayson
03-09-2009, 02:52 PM
redsfandan, I sent a new offer through email.
A modest proposal to limit the trading of draft picks: could we require that all trades must be completed and posted BEFORE that draft pick is 'on the clock'? In other words, once you are on the clock with a given draft pick, you can no longer trade that pick.
This draft is slow enough without adding time to the progression of the draft while we all wait to see whether the current pick is traded off or not. I am already generally concerned that trading picks slows things up due to confusion about whose turn it is.
We are a little more than half way through the 10th round of this draft. We started on February 19th. Today is the 9th of March. It has taken 18 days to get this far, almost two days per round. At the current rate, we will finish around 35 days from now(around April 14th), since we will draft 18 more positions counting the reserves. The only problem is that the regular season starts on April 5th.
camisadelgolf
03-09-2009, 02:58 PM
Sounds fair, mbgrayson. Let's start the rule after redsfandan's pick is finished. :D
AtomicDumpling
03-09-2009, 03:12 PM
A modest proposal to limit the trading of draft picks: could we require that all trades must be completed and posted BEFORE that draft pick is 'on the clock'? In other words, once you are on the clock with a given draft pick, you can no longer trade that pick.
This draft is slow enough without adding time to the progression of the draft while we all wait to see whether the current pick is traded off or not. I am already generally concerned that trading picks slows things up due to confusion about whose turn it is.
We are a little more than half way through the 10th round of this draft. We started on February 19th. Today is the 9th of March. It has taken 18 days to get this far, almost two days per round. At the current rate, we will finish around 35 days from now(around April 14th), since we will draft 18 more positions counting the reserves. The only problem is that the regular season starts on April 5th.
Good idea. Well said.
As of the next pick you can't trade the pick that is "on the clock". I will enact that rule change as commissioner -- I don't think we need to vote on that one.
It is late enough in the draft that I don't see any real motivation to trade draft picks at this point anyway. It is much too late to trade up for a stud player now -- those guys are gone.
Upon the completion of every round I will post a draft summary and the schedule for the next two rounds. This way everyone can see who is next in the draft to eliminate confusion.
camisadelgolf
03-09-2009, 03:45 PM
redsfandan and I just did a trade. I have to hurry to work, so I haven't informed the next person that it's his turn to pick. I'm sorry about that. I PMed my want list to redsfandan, and I'll be back online tonight.
redsfandan receives (round.slot):
12.10
13.3
15.3
camisadelgolf receives (round.slot):
10.8 (used to take Brad Lidge)
16.8
16.12
redsfandan
03-09-2009, 03:59 PM
I sent an email via the yahoo league page to mbgrayson to let him know he's up.
mbgrayson
03-09-2009, 07:48 PM
In pick 10.9, I took Joe Nathan.
I think camisadelgolf is up if I am tracking the myriad of trades....
redsfandan
03-09-2009, 08:00 PM
camisadelgolf is #1 takes Jonathan Broxton AD is up.
camisadelgolf wanted me to post his pick.
AtomicDumpling
03-09-2009, 10:12 PM
I took Carlos Marmol. Championship! :beerme:
redsfandan is on the clock.
A trade for the first pick of round 11 is nearing finalization.
reds77
03-09-2009, 10:15 PM
Atomic, in case you didn't see it, I agreed to the counter offer deal.
AtomicDumpling
03-09-2009, 10:19 PM
Trade Announcment
reds77 receives 11.1 and 11.2 and 20.11 and 25.2 picks.
Atomic Dumpling gets 12.3 and 13.10 and 14.3 and 15.10 picks.
Since this is getting confusing I will post a list of the draft order for round 11. I will also post an updated list each time we start a new round.
AtomicDumpling
03-09-2009, 10:30 PM
Here is an updated draft order for round 11:
121 reds77 11.1
122 reds77 11.2
123 camisadelgolf is #1 11.3
124 mbgrayson 11.4
125 WMR Ghetty Green 11.5
126 CRF2000 11.6
127 gilpdawg 11.7
128 *BaseClogger* 11.8
129 TRF's debacle 11.9
130 reds77 11.10
131 stephenk29 11.11
132 nate 11.12
reds77 has three picks.
redsfandan and Atomic Dumpling have none. :(
redsfandan
03-09-2009, 11:30 PM
I took Scott Kazmir .... reds77 is up
AtomicDumpling
03-09-2009, 11:34 PM
Reds77 takes AJ Burnett and Carlos Zambrano. He asked me to post his picks.
Camisadelgolf is now on the clock.
*BaseClogger*
03-10-2009, 01:49 AM
I feel like I need to trade a couple of my picks just for the sake of it... :(
redsfandan
03-10-2009, 02:04 AM
I feel like I need to trade a couple of my picks just for the sake of it... :(
Would ya? :cool: lol
AtomicDumpling
03-10-2009, 02:32 AM
I feel like I need to trade a couple of my picks just for the sake of it... :(
You might as well, everyone else is doing it. :p:
If there is a player out there you want just trade up and get him. :thumbup:
camisadelgolf
03-10-2009, 02:56 AM
I took David Price even though he wasn't who I would hope fall to that slot. mbgrayson is up.
AtomicDumpling
03-10-2009, 03:10 AM
I took David Price even though he wasn't who I would hope fall to that slot. mbgrayson is up.
Tremendous potential. I can't believe he lasted this long in a dynasty league.
camisadelgolf
03-10-2009, 03:46 AM
Tremendous potential. I can't believe he lasted this long in a dynasty league.
Yeah, I was pretty shocked. I wanted to wait before I started drafting starters, but I couldn't pass him up.
You might as well, everyone else is doing it. :p:
If there is a player out there you want just trade up and get him. :thumbup:
Not everyone. I'm not a fan of the draft pick trading, and hope it won't be allowed in the future.
mbgrayson
03-10-2009, 09:27 AM
Not everyone. I'm not a fan of the draft pick trading, and hope it won't be allowed in the future.
I tend to agree with this.
In pick 11.4, I took Jayson Werth.
http://chicago.whitesox.mlb.com/cws/images/fan_forum/wallpapers/y2007/1024x768_cws_bj.jpg
Bobby "Big Boy" Jenks
Stephenk29
03-10-2009, 01:43 PM
your not secretly a sox fan are you?
your not secretly a sox fan are you?
:laugh:
Hell nah. I've only got two of the pale hose guys on my squad, why do you think I like them particularly?
*BaseClogger*
03-10-2009, 04:21 PM
http://assets.espn.go.com/i/page2/photos/040405hill.jpg
cinredsfan2000
03-10-2009, 05:20 PM
Matt cain off the board
AtomicDumpling
03-10-2009, 06:27 PM
Matt cain off the board
Good solid pick.
Gilpdawg is on the clock.
cinredsfan2000
03-10-2009, 07:44 PM
Good solid pick.
Gilpdawg is on the clock.
And I got the pick in early :D:thumbup:;)
AtomicDumpling
03-10-2009, 07:57 PM
And I got the pick in early :D:thumbup:;)
Yes. :D:p:
We appreciate it. :thumbup:
*BaseClogger*
03-10-2009, 11:38 PM
I'd love to add some more picks right now if anybody behind me wants to make a trade...
camisadelgolf
03-11-2009, 07:08 AM
I'd love to add some more picks right now if anybody behind me wants to make a trade...
I'm interested in making moves, too, so go ahead and PM me with what you have in mind.
Nelson Cruz is off the board.
reds77
03-11-2009, 09:50 AM
Just took Jose Valverde and now I don't draft again until round 16. See you then haha.
Stephenk29
03-11-2009, 10:43 AM
just took Cantu
OK, back to StephenK. I took Brad Hawpe and James Loney.
Stephenk29
03-11-2009, 11:10 AM
I really have no idea who is after me now, but they are up.
I just took Cordero.
I guess it's mee since reds77 is done for a few rounds.
redsfandan
03-11-2009, 11:17 AM
Atomic Dumpling should be before TRF's debacle. This is the lineup I have:
Round 12
133.nate James Loney
134.Stephenk29 Francisco Cordero
135.Atomic Dumpling (via trade w/reds77)
136.TRF's debacle
137.*BaseClogger*
138.Gilpdawg
139.CRF2000
140.WMR Ghetty Green
141.mbgrayson
142.redsfandan (via trade w/camisadelgolf is #1)
143.Atomic Dumpling
144.redsfandan
Round 13
145.redsfandan
146.Atomic Dumpling
147.redsfandan (via trade w/camisadelgolf is #1)
148.mbgrayson
149.redsfandan (via trade w/WMR Ghetty Green)
150.CRF2000
151.Gilpdawg
152.*BaseClogger*
153.TRF's debacle
154.Atomic Dumpling (via trade w/reds77)
155.Stephenk29
156.nate
ok, this is why I hate trading picks. I didn't know AD was up. I'll drop Wood if AD wants him.
redsfandan
03-11-2009, 11:21 AM
I think we need to post the next couple rounds in advance from now on and post them again if there's a trade of picks that affect those rounds.
AtomicDumpling
03-11-2009, 03:14 PM
ok, this is why I hate trading picks. I didn't know AD was up. I'll drop Wood if AD wants him.
Its OK. I don't want Wood. Not a problem.
You have always had the 4th pick in evenrounds. If you don't make any trades you will always have the 9th pick in odd rounds and the 4th pick in even rounds. Trades made by other people will never affect your draft slots.
AtomicDumpling
03-11-2009, 03:27 PM
I selected Brian Fuentes. Championship!
Baseclogger is on the clock.
Its OK. I don't want Wood. Not a problem.
You have always had the 4th pick in evenrounds. If you don't make any trades you will always have the 9th pick in odd rounds and the 4th pick in even rounds. Trades made by other people will never affect your draft slots.
I should have realized this.
And everybody wants wood.
could. not. resist.
AtomicDumpling
03-11-2009, 03:53 PM
I should have realized this.
And everybody wants wood.
could. not. resist.
Woods is a great pitcher... When he's healthy.
mbgrayson
03-12-2009, 04:56 PM
Willy Mo took Ricky Nolasco with pick 12.8, and I have taken Johnny Cueto with pick 12.9.
I beleive that RedsFanDan is now on the clock.
redsfandan
03-12-2009, 05:30 PM
I took Harang.
AtomicDumpling
03-12-2009, 05:49 PM
I took Vernon Wells. Championship!
redsfandan is on the clock for the next two picks.
redsfandan
03-12-2009, 05:54 PM
I took Erik Bedard & Pablo Sandoval. Atomic Dumpling is now up again.
redsfandan
03-12-2009, 06:19 PM
Atomic Dumpling took Matt Capps and I took Cameron Maybin.
Round 12
133.nate James Loney
134.Stephenk29 Francisco Cordero
135.Atomic Dumpling (via trade w/reds77) Brian Fuentes
136.TRF's debacle Kerry Wood
137.*BaseClogger* Javier Vázquez
138.Gilpdawg B.J. Ryan
139.CRF2000 (picked th; expired time limit)
140.WMR Ghetty Green Ricky Nolasco
141.mbgrayson Johnny Cueto
142.redsfandan (via trade w/camisadelgolf is #1) Aaron Harang
143.Atomic Dumpling Vernon Wells
144.redsfandan Erik Bedard
Round 13
145.redsfandan Pablo Sandoval
146.Atomic Dumpling Matt Capps
147.redsfandan (via trade w/camisadelgolf is #1) Cameron Maybin
148.mbgrayson
149.redsfandan (via trade w/WMR Ghetty Green)
150.CRF2000
151.Gilpdawg
152.*BaseClogger*
153.TRF's debacle
154.Atomic Dumpling (via trade w/reds77)
155.Stephenk29
156.nate
I sent a pm to mbgrayson.
mbgrayson
03-12-2009, 08:01 PM
Pick 13.4 Scott Baker of the Twinkies
cinredsfan2000
03-12-2009, 10:37 PM
GUys feel free to pick around me if need be i really dont like holding things up .So if the commish dosent mind pick around me and i can make my pick when possible ? :confused:My hours at work are nuts and i really have no idea a lot of times when i'll be home to check on things .
AtomicDumpling
03-12-2009, 11:31 PM
Rule Change Announcement:
Effective with pick 14.1 the time limit will be 8 hours.
The draft is running late so we will need to speed things up a little bit to make sure we are ready for Opening Day. The 12 hour time limit remains in effect until the end of the current round.
redsfandan
03-12-2009, 11:35 PM
I took Clayton Kershaw.
I sent an email to CRF2000 and, per his instuctions on the yahoo league page, he has until either 12:30 or 1:30 to make his pick. I'll leave that up to the commish.
AtomicDumpling
03-12-2009, 11:38 PM
GUys feel free to pick around me if need be i really dont like holding things up .So if the commish dosent mind pick around me and i can make my pick when possible ? :confused:My hours at work are nuts and i really have no idea a lot of times when i'll be home to check on things .
Thanks for the offer. That is very gracious.
I want to keep the draft moving as quickly as possible, but I also want to make sure you are treated fairly.
Maybe we could put a policy in effect where we would select on your behalf the highest ranked player available once you have been on the clock for 2 hours? I could add the player with the best Yahoo O-Rank (hitter or pitcher) to your team at the three-hour mark. How would that work?
And/or maybe we could have you switch draft slots with Nate (if he agrees). This way you would only have half as many turns, but you would make two picks each time like Nate does now. This would cut in half the number of delays caused by your busy work schedule.
Or you could send me a list of pre-ranked players so I could add the top available player from your list whenever your turn comes up.
Let me know your thoughts.
*BaseClogger*
03-13-2009, 01:56 AM
Great. Atomic Dumpling changes the time limit just as I'm about to go out of town for the Big Ten Tournament. He'll do anything to beat me this year! :cool: I'll have to send some of my picks to you guys...
Great. Atomic Dumpling changes the time limit just as I'm about to go out of town for the Big Ten Tournament. He'll do anything to beat me this year! :cool: I'll have to send some of my picks to you guys...
Getting your excuses in early? I like it. :D
*BaseClogger*
03-13-2009, 01:59 AM
Getting your excuses in early? I like it. :D
I didn't need any excuses last year! :cool:
Seriously though, I just remembered that camisa doesn't pick for a while so I will probably be sending him some lists. Is there anybody else who is off the board for a while?
AtomicDumpling
03-13-2009, 02:25 AM
I didn't need any excuses last year! :cool:
Seriously though, I just remembered that camisa doesn't pick for a while so I will probably be sending him some lists. Is there anybody else who is off the board for a while?
reds77 doesn't have another pick until the 16th round.
Guys, just so we understand the excuse hierarchy:
*Pre-excuse
Typically made before the match to lessen the agony of defeat or heighten the thrill of victory. Examples:
"My internet has been lagging all night so I'm not sure I should get sniper."
"I thought I was picking the _other_ Mike Stanton!"
"I have WMR on my team."
*Post-excuse
If you didn't preface your dismal performance with a caveat, you can always make the best of it with a post-excuse. Examples:
"Willy Tavares hit .300 one year!"
"This controller was setup with look inverted!"
"I had WMR on my team."
Guys, just so we understand the excuse hierarchy:
*Pre-excuse
Typically made before the match to lessen the agony of defeat or heighten the thrill of victory. Examples:
"My internet has been lagging all night so I'm not sure I should get sniper."
"I thought I was picking the _other_ Mike Stanton!"
"I have WMR on my team."
*Post-excuse
If you didn't preface your dismal performance with a caveat, you can always make the best of it with a post-excuse. Examples:
"Willy Tavares hit .300 one year!"
"This controller was setup with look inverted!"
"I had WMR on my team."
:lol: Love it. :D
cinredsfan2000
03-13-2009, 02:40 PM
Thanks for the offer. That is very gracious.
I could add the player with the best Yahoo O-Rank (hitter or pitcher) to your team at the three-hour mark. How would that work?
Thatwould work great for me I just added carlos guillen .So from now on if after the time limit or if my turn happens to fall during the morning or early afternoon feel free to add the best player for me that way im not holding things up i have confidence in your choice.:D
AtomicDumpling
03-13-2009, 04:05 PM
TRF's debacle is now on the clock for pick 13.9
Pick 13.10 belongs to Atomic Dumpling (acquired from reds77).
AtomicDumpling
03-13-2009, 04:36 PM
Thatwould work great for me I just added carlos guillen .So from now on if after the time limit or if my turn happens to fall during the morning or early afternoon feel free to add the best player for me that way im not holding things up i have confidence in your choice.:D
Sounds like a good plan.
I will add the top-ranked player to your team if you have not made a pick within three hours. That way you are guaranteed one of the best available players and we can keep the draft moving.
Thanks for helping us speed up the draft! :thumbup:
AtomicDumpling
03-14-2009, 02:23 AM
I took Travis Snider with pick 13.10. Championship!
TRF was skipped at pick 13.9 after the 12-hour window elapsed.
Stephenk29 is now on the clock.
AtomicDumpling
03-14-2009, 02:36 AM
Updated draft order for rounds 13-15:
13.9 TRF's debacle skipped - hasn't picked yet
13.10 Atomic Dumpling Travis Snider
13.11 stephenk29
13.12 nate
14.1 nate
14.2 stephenk29
14.3 Atomic Dumpling
14.4 TRF's debacle
14.5 *BaseClogger*
14.6 gilpdawg
14.7 CRF2000
14.8 WMR Ghetty Green
14.9 mbgrayson
14.10 camisadelgolf is #1
14.11 redsfandan
14.12 WMR Ghetty Green
15.1 Atomic Dumpling
15.2 Atomic Dumpling
15.3 redsfandan
15.4 mbgrayson
15.5 WMR Ghetty Green
15.6 CRF2000
15.7 gilpdawg
15.8 *BaseClogger*
15.9 TRF's debacle
15.10 Atomic Dumpling
15.11 stephenk29
15.12 nate
AtomicDumpling
03-14-2009, 05:23 PM
TRF's debacle is now on the clock for pick 14.4. He also has not used pick 13.9 yet.
Remember the time limit is now 8 hours.
Stephenk29
03-14-2009, 06:19 PM
I admit, I totally forgot Colby Rasmus existed
sorry, I missed 13.9, and took Blalock with 14.4
so I can just pick again right?
mbgrayson
03-14-2009, 10:49 PM
sorry, I missed 13.9, and took Blalock with 14.4
so I can just pick again right?
Right.
AtomicDumpling
03-15-2009, 01:56 AM
BaseCloggers selected Mike Gonzalez.
Gilpdawg is on the clock for 14.6
gilpdawg
03-15-2009, 02:17 AM
CRF is up. I just picked.
cinredsfan2000
03-15-2009, 08:31 AM
M.Tejada off the board
http://seattletimes.nwsource.com/ABPub/2007/04/28/2003684859.jpg
mbgrayson
03-15-2009, 05:56 PM
With Pick 14.9 I have taken Mike Napoli of the Angelinos.
*BaseClogger*
03-16-2009, 12:24 AM
Thanks for getting my pick in while I was gone. Glad to have Gonzalez! :)
AtomicDumpling
03-16-2009, 12:50 AM
Welcome back. The pace of the draft has been very slow over the weekend. Hopefully it will speed up on Monday.
I am thinking about going to 6 hours per pick starting with round 16, and then 4 hours per pick at round 20. If you get bypassed occasionally it won't matter much in the late rounds.
camisadelgolf
03-16-2009, 03:37 AM
I took Brandon Morrow, so I believe WMR Ghetty Green is up.
http://www.mouthpiecesports.com/media/images/articles/CXS106_Indians_Whit_85029369.jpg
redsfandan
03-16-2009, 07:26 PM
Atomic Dumpling used his two picks for two more relievers (Frank Francisco & Chad Qualls). I used my pick on Raúl Ibañez. mbgrayson is next. And sorry for the wait on my pick. I overslept.
mbgrayson
03-16-2009, 07:56 PM
With pick 15.4, I took Brett Myers.
WillyMo is up!
AtomicDumpling
03-17-2009, 12:46 AM
Trade Announcement:
WMR Ghetty Green gets picks 15.10 and 22.11
Atomic Dumpling gets picks 18.8 and 19.5 and 20.8
I will update the draft order in the "Commisioner's Note" section and in the Redszone discussion thread.
AtomicDumpling
03-17-2009, 12:55 AM
Updated draft order:
15.5 WMR Ghetty Green
15.6 CRF2000
15.7 gilpdawg
15.8 *BaseClogger*
15.9 TRF's debacle
15.10 WMR Ghetty Green
15.11 stephenk29
15.12 nate
16.1 nate
16.2 stephenk29
16.3 reds77
16.4 TRF's debacle
16.5 *BaseClogger*
16.6 gilpdawg
16.7 CRF2000
16.8 camisadelgolf is #1
16.9 mbgrayson
16.10 camisadelgolf is #1
16.11 Atomic Dumpling
16.12 camisadelgolf is #1
17.1 redsfandan
17.2 Atomic Dumpling
17.3 camisadelgolf is #1
17.4 mbgrayson
17.5 WMR Ghetty Green
17.6 CRF2000
17.7 gilpdawg
17.8 *BaseClogger*
17.9 TRF's debacle
17.10 reds77
17.11 stephenk29
17.12 nate
18.1 nate
18.2 stephenk29
18.3 reds77
18.4 TRF's debacle
18.5 *BaseClogger*
18.6 gilpdawg
18.7 CRF2000
18.8 Atomic Dumpling
18.9 mbgrayson
18.10 camisadelgolf is #1
18.11 Atomic Dumpling
18.12 WMR Ghetty Green
19.1 redsfandan
19.2 Atomic Dumpling
19.3 camisadelgolf is #1
19.4 mbgrayson
19.5 Atomic Dumpling
19.6 CRF2000
19.7 gilpdawg
19.8 *BaseClogger*
19.9 TRF's debacle
19.10 reds77
19.11 stephenk29
19.12 nate
20.1 nate
20.2 stephenk29
20.3 reds77
20.4 TRF's debacle
20.5 *BaseClogger*
20.6 gilpdawg
20.7 CRF2000
20.8 Atomic Dumpling
20.9 mbgrayson
20.10 camisadelgolf is #1
20.11 reds77
20.12 redsfandan
21.1 redsfandan
21.2 Atomic Dumpling
21.3 camisadelgolf is #1
21.4 mbgrayson
21.5 redsfandan
21.6 CRF2000
21.7 gilpdawg
21.8 *BaseClogger*
21.9 TRF's debacle
21.10 reds77
21.11 stephenk29
21.12 nate
22.1 nate
22.2 stephenk29
22.3 reds77
22.4 TRF's debacle
22.5 *BaseClogger*
22.6 gilpdawg
22.7 CRF2000
22.8 WMR Ghetty Green
22.9 mbgrayson
22.10 camisadelgolf is #1
22.11 WMR Ghetty Green
22.12 WMR Ghetty Green
23.1 redsfandan
23.2 Atomic Dumpling
23.3 camisadelgolf is #1
23.4 mbgrayson
23.5 WMR Ghetty Green
23.6 CRF2000
23.7 gilpdawg
23.8 *BaseClogger*
23.9 TRF's debacle
23.10 reds77
23.11 stephenk29
23.12 nate
24.1 nate
24.2 stephenk29
24.3 reds77
24.4 TRF's debacle
24.5 *BaseClogger*
24.6 gilpdawg
24.7 CRF2000
24.8 WMR Ghetty Green
24.9 mbgrayson
24.10 camisadelgolf is #1
24.11 Atomic Dumpling
24.12 redsfandan
25.1 redsfandan
25.2 reds77
25.3 camisadelgolf is #1
25.4 mbgrayson
25.5 WMR Ghetty Green
25.6 CRF2000
25.7 gilpdawg
25.8 *BaseClogger*
25.9 TRF's debacle
25.10 reds77
25.11 stephenk29
25.12 nate
26.1 nate
26.2 stephenk29
26.3 reds77
26.4 TRF's debacle
26.5 *BaseClogger*
26.6 gilpdawg
26.7 CRF2000
26.8 WMR Ghetty Green
26.9 mbgrayson
26.10 camisadelgolf is #1
26.11 Atomic Dumpling
26.12 redsfandan
27.1 redsfandan
27.2 Atomic Dumpling
27.3 camisadelgolf is #1
27.4 mbgrayson
27.5 WMR Ghetty Green
27.6 CRF2000
27.7 gilpdawg
27.8 *BaseClogger*
27.9 TRF's debacle
27.10 reds77
27.11 stephenk29
27.12 nate
28.1 nate
28.2 stephenk29
28.3 reds77
28.4 TRF's debacle
28.5 *BaseClogger*
28.6 gilpdawg
28.7 CRF2000
28.8 WMR Ghetty Green
28.9 mbgrayson
28.10 camisadelgolf is #1
28.11 Atomic Dumpling
28.12 redsfandan
29.1 redsfandan
29.2 Atomic Dumpling
29.3 camisadelgolf is #1
29.4 mbgrayson
29.5 WMR Ghetty Green
29.6 CRF2000
29.7 gilpdawg
29.8 *BaseClogger*
29.9 TRF's debacle
29.10 reds77
29.11 stephenk29
29.12 nate
http://assets.nydailynews.com/img/2008/10/20/alg_garza-champagne.jpg
Won't be the last time he pops the cork! :D :D :D
AtomicDumpling
03-17-2009, 02:32 AM
Thatwould work great for me I just added carlos guillen .So from now on if after the time limit or if my turn happens to fall during the morning or early afternoon feel free to add the best player for me that way im not holding things up i have confidence in your choice.:D
Alright, I added the player with the best Yahoo rank to your team. I hope he suits you well...
CRF2000 selects Kelly Johnson with pick 15.6 in the draft.
Gilpdawg is now on the clock for 15.7
redsfandan
03-17-2009, 11:08 AM
Trade Announcement:
WMR Ghetty Green gets picks 15.10 and 22.11
Atomic Dumpling gets picks 18.8 and 19.5 and 20.8
I will update the draft order in the "Commisioner's Note" section and in the Redszone
discussion thread.
Very, very clever AD. So you dealt one of the extra picks from your last "deal" to move up 2 picks a total of either 4+ rounds OR 12 rounds. (depending on how you look at it)
As far as the pace of the draft, I'm kinda afraid I opened up a Pandoras Box with my suggestion to allow pick trading:
Welcome back. The pace of the draft has been very slow over the weekend. Hopefully it will speed up on Monday. I am thinking about going to 6 hours per pick starting with round 16, and then 4 hours per pick at round 20. If you get bypassed occasionally it won't matter much in the late rounds.
Now I want to get this done in time too but are ya sure that making it 6 or even 4 hours will help enough? Starting with pick 14.1 we went from 12 hours to 8 hours per pick and the 14th round still took a little more than 2 days. The draft started on 2/19 with the 12 hour time limit started on 2/23. In almost 4 weeks we're almost halfway done with only 2 1/2 weeks to finish.
On March 1, we were at pick 5.5. In the first 16 days of the month (3/1-3/16) we've knocked out 123 picks or a little more than 10 rounds. At this rate the last few rounds won't be done in time. Even if the pace picks up it'll still be iffy to finish those rounds.
I know it may not be a popular option but can we at least entertain the idea of seeing if
everyone can be on the site at the same time the weekend before the season starts to knock out whatever rounds are left at that point? It may not be easy to find a time to fit everyone but we'll probably ONLY need ONE hour if everyone takes no more than a minute per pick. Thoughts? Anyone? Maybe consider this as an option if the pace doesn't pick up enough the rest of this week?
Maybe it's just me but I think the focus NEEDS to be on finishing the draft BEFORE the season starts.
camisadelgolf
03-17-2009, 02:00 PM
Each trade should pend the approval of the league in my opinion.
15.9 and Ryan Dempster is off the board.
AtomicDumpling
03-17-2009, 02:41 PM
Each trade should pend the approval of the league in my opinion.
All trades are subject to protest and league vote if challenged.
redsfandan
03-17-2009, 05:31 PM
1) I did protest your deal with reds77 via pm.
2) Unfortunately any votes would just hold up the draft even more.
3)....
Maybe it's just me but I think the focus NEEDS to be on finishing the draft BEFORE the season starts.
If we add a live draft to knock out the last few rounds we need to find out when everyone can be online at the same time to do it and the sooner the better.
reds77
03-17-2009, 07:31 PM
So why was the trade I made protested? Who did you think was getting the better deal? I'm personally quite content that I got two studs in exchange for lesser ranked players.
mbgrayson
03-17-2009, 07:34 PM
The problem with draft pick trading is that it gets unmanageable, slows the draft, and is not voted on by the league. If actual players gets traded, the league can block the trade if it is deemed one sided.
I would be ok with setting up a time for drafting the last weekend. AD' s plan to shorten allowed times would also work to speed things up. The real slow down comes when certain people let there pick languish the maximum time. It would be interesting to add up total time on the clock. A couple players would likely account for half the time. ;)
But all that said, to me it is not that big a deal. My guys will be ready to play even if we are still drafting the last few slots! My team is ready to ROCK.
Mike
http://www.minorleaguenews.com/graphics/baseball/Graphics/2006/08/15/FAB50/28KevinSlowey.jpg
AtomicDumpling
03-17-2009, 10:05 PM
So why was the trade I made protested? Who did you think was getting the better deal? I'm personally quite content that I got two studs in exchange for lesser ranked players.
To set the record straight, the trade was NOT protested. The person (not you reds77) that made that claim had me so upset I had to wait several hours to calm down before I could reply. I took great offense at the accusation. This is supposed to be fun so I will forget about the insult. I have made every effort to keep this league fair and square for everyone and will continue to do so.
We had one other trade that was protested by one of the participants after the trade was finalized. The other party graciously agreed to re-work the deal even though it was agreed to by both parties before being finalized.
AtomicDumpling
03-17-2009, 10:17 PM
The problem with draft pick trading is that it gets unmanageable, slows the draft, and is not voted on by the league. If actual players gets traded, the league can block the trade if it is deemed one sided.
I would be ok with setting up a time for drafting the last weekend. AD' s plan to shorten allowed times would also work to speed things up. The real slow down comes when certain people let there pick languish the maximum time. It would be interesting to add up total time on the clock. A couple players would likely account for half the time. ;)
But all that said, to me it is not that big a deal. My guys will be ready to play even if we are still drafting the last few slots! My team is ready to ROCK.
Mike
The pick trading has turned out to be a bit of a hassle. We won't have to worry about it next year since the draft will only be about 3-4 rounds long. I don't think the trades have slowed down the draft. That is caused by people's busy schedules and sporadic attention.
The point of putting a trade up for vote is to prevent collusion, not to prevent somebody from making an ill-advised trade. The goal is to prevent cheating, not to prevent people from improving their teams.
I have seen leagues get derailed by people vetoing every trade to prevent their opponents from improving their teams.
We may have to go with a live draft for the final few rounds. Or we could reduce the time limit to one hour for the last week.
I don't see any huge reason why we have to finish every last round before Opening Day anyway. It is not like those 28th-round players are going to be in your starting lineup. I am open to ideas from you guys. What do you want to do?
If we've only got 2-4 rounds left, why not just let them happen as they happen? As you said, they're not going to be starters.
*BaseClogger*
03-17-2009, 11:19 PM
The point of putting a trade up for vote is to prevent collusion, not to prevent somebody from making an ill-advised trade. The goal is to prevent cheating, not to prevent people from improving their teams.
I have seen leagues get derailed by people vetoing every trade to prevent their opponents from improving their teams.
Yep, I know what you mean. I can speak from experience as commissioner of another league that explaining this is very annoying--especially in a money league where it is expected that everyone knows what is going on. The above is a great description and I might just have to use it again... :)
gilpdawg
03-17-2009, 11:46 PM
If we've only got 2-4 rounds left, why not just let them happen as they happen? As you said, they're not going to be starters.
I agree with WMR.
Stephenk29
03-18-2009, 01:45 AM
[QUOTE=AtomicDumpling;1816708]To set the record straight, the trade was NOT protested. The person (not you reds77) that made that claim had me so upset I had to wait several hours to calm down before I could reply. /QUOTE]
Thats an interesting note.
I took Ryan The Riot and Joe Saunders.
NEXT!
*BaseClogger*
03-18-2009, 01:04 PM
Thats an interesting note.
Wasn't me! :fineprint
Mark Reynolds off the board.
My whole team is sleepers...
*BaseClogger*
03-18-2009, 03:28 PM
I took Hanrahan. NEXT!
Ya know, after looking over Reynolds stats from last year, and the stats we are using in this league, getting him in the 16th round is a steal. the only place he MIGHT hurt me is BA. if you limit PA's to 450, he's a top 5 3B in every category except BA (21st) and RBI (7th)
I'm feeling pretty good about the pick, better if he can get his BA back to his 2007 season.
*BaseClogger*
03-18-2009, 03:53 PM
I've got Reynolds down for .244/78/26/92/8. PECOTA has him at .260/79/29/84/9. That is a big spread in BA. He's a slightly below-average player compared overall based on the PECOTA projection. But with my BA he's not worth much. Basically, it all depends on how comfortable you are with his BA; if he can keep it up around .260 he will be pretty good...
redsfandan
03-18-2009, 04:21 PM
Fwiw, I feel I should make some type of statement regarding yesterday. I chalk up yesterday as a regrettable, BIG misunderstanding. (More than one actually) One of which I want to try to clear up.
At NO time was I suggesting that Atomic Dumpling did anything improper. Since it appears that Atomic Dumpling (and others) may have had that impression and that Atomic Dumpling felt insulted I offer my sincere apology to him for not wording my previous post better but it was NOT my intention to insult his character or integrity. Again, Imo, this is mostly a misunderstanding.
I hope that people can understand that at this time I feel it may be better for me to not comment anymore about what happened yesterday until at least some time has passed and it's not quite so "fresh". I also hope that this will not affect anything that happens this year. If it does I'll leave it up to the commish and the rest of the league to decide how to proceed.
By the way, judging from some of the posts, I'm afraid that a few people maybe making assumptions based on only a couple posts on an anonymous internet message board. As some of you may already know, it can be easier for misunderstandings to happen when you're dealing with the internet. And like I've said, Imo, yesterday was a regrettable, BIG misunderstanding. One that I would like to be left to Atomic Dumpling and myself to discuss sometime in the future.
AtomicDumpling
03-18-2009, 05:12 PM
Fwiw, I feel I should make some type of statement regarding yesterday. I chalk up yesterday as a regrettable, BIG misunderstanding. (More than one actually) One of which I want to try to clear up.
At NO time was I suggesting that Atomic Dumpling did anything improper. Since it appears that Atomic Dumpling (and others) may have had that impression and that Atomic Dumpling felt insulted I offer my sincere apology to him for not wording my previous post better but it was NOT my intention to insult his character or integrity. Again, Imo, this is mostly a misunderstanding.
I hope that people can understand that at this time I feel it may be better for me to not comment anymore about what happened yesterday until at least some time has passed and it's not quite so "fresh". I also hope that this will not affect anything that happens this year. If it does I'll leave it up to the commish and the rest of the league to decide how to proceed.
By the way, judging from some of the posts, I'm afraid that a few people maybe making assumptions based on only a couple posts on an anonymous internet message board. As some of you may already know, it can be easier for misunderstandings to happen when you're dealing with the internet. And like I've said, Imo, yesterday was a regrettable, BIG misunderstanding. One that I would like to be left to Atomic Dumpling and myself to discuss sometime in the future.
It was a misunderstanding. These things happen. No worries.
Let's just pretend it never happened and go have some fun.
AtomicDumpling
03-18-2009, 05:17 PM
Ya know, after looking over Reynolds stats from last year, and the stats we are using in this league, getting him in the 16th round is a steal. the only place he MIGHT hurt me is BA. if you limit PA's to 450, he's a top 5 3B in every category except BA (21st) and RBI (7th)
I'm feeling pretty good about the pick, better if he can get his BA back to his 2007 season.
I think it was a good selection. He is very good in runs, HRs and RBIs. He hurts in BA, but you can compensate for that with some other players. He is a quality player -- but not perfect. But how many perfect players are available in the 16th round?
I've got Reynolds down for .244/78/26/92/8. PECOTA has him at .260/79/29/84/9. That is a big spread in BA. He's a slightly below-average player compared overall based on the PECOTA projection. But with my BA he's not worth much. Basically, it all depends on how comfortable you are with his BA; if he can keep it up around .260 he will be pretty good...
He's entering his third year. 1st year he had an .843 OPS, 2nd year he regressed. If he posts an .830 OPS this year, I'll be plenty pleased to have him as my starting 3B.
I think it was a good selection. He is very good in runs, HRs and RBIs. He hurts in BA, but you can compensate for that with some other players. He is a quality player -- but not perfect. But how many perfect players are available in the 16th round?
I think he was waaay overlooked, especially given the stats we are using. in 4 of the 5 offensive categories he was a top 10 player finishing no lower than 7th. It all comes down to his BA, which I think will rebound to at least a .280 mark.
AtomicDumpling
03-18-2009, 06:37 PM
I think he was waaay overlooked, especially given the stats we are using. in 4 of the 5 offensive categories he was a top 10 player finishing no lower than 7th. It all comes down to his BA, which I think will rebound to at least a .280 mark.
I didn't realize he stole that many bases last year. He is still only 25 years old.
mbgrayson
03-18-2009, 08:27 PM
He's entering his third year. 1st year he had an .843 OPS, 2nd year he regressed. If he posts an .830 OPS this year, I'll be plenty pleased to have him as my starting 3B.
I think he was waaay overlooked, especially given the stats we are using. in 4 of the 5 offensive categories he was a top 10 player finishing no lower than 7th. It all comes down to his BA, which I think will rebound to at least a .280 mark.
Mark Reynolds also set the all time mark for strike outs(204) in one year in 2008(Dunner is now in third behind Reynolds and Ryan Howard). He walked 64 times. With that low of a contact rate, his batting average will not go up too much. He struck out 37.8% of the time in 2008. His BABIP was .329 last year, which is generally considered on the 'lucky' side. He is Adam Dunn lite....that is why I passed on him.
But you are right that everyone in the 16th round has warts, and his are no worse than others, and he is young with upside.
AtomicDumpling
03-19-2009, 01:27 AM
Thatwould work great for me... So from now on if after the time limit or if my turn happens to fall during the morning or early afternoon feel free to add the best player for me that way im not holding things up i have confidence in your choice.:D
CRF2000 takes young SP Josh Johnson with his 16.7 pick.
Camisadelgolf is now on the clock.
camisadelgolf
03-19-2009, 06:55 AM
mbgrayson is now up, and then I think it's me again.
mbgrayson
03-19-2009, 09:28 AM
I took Rickie weeks with pick 16.9...talk about questionable batting average!
Back to camisadelgolf for 16.10.
Mike
camisadelgolf
03-19-2009, 02:02 PM
AtomicDumpling is up, and I'm after him.
*BaseClogger*
03-19-2009, 09:14 PM
I had pinned all my hopes at SS on Escobar... :(
camisadelgolf
03-20-2009, 05:40 AM
I had pinned all my hopes at SS on Escobar... :(
Well, if something ever happened to Drew, I would have been in big trouble. I think Escobar is a bit of a sleeper, and I'm really happy with the pick.
mbgrayson
03-20-2009, 09:33 AM
I took Joey Devine with pick 17.4...WMR is up.
AtomicDumpling
03-20-2009, 06:18 PM
WMR is bypassed.
CRF2000 is on the clock for pick 17.6
I took Denard Span. Sorry it took so long.
AtomicDumpling
03-20-2009, 06:23 PM
ANNOUNCEMENT:
The time clock is now 6 hours per pick effective immediately.
Starting with round 18 the clock will be 4 hours.
cinredsfan2000
03-20-2009, 08:51 PM
17.6
Milton Bradley
OK, I took Randy Johnson and Kaz Matsui with 17.12 and 18.1.
AtomicDumpling
03-21-2009, 04:05 PM
The time clock is now 4 hours per pick.
We need to get through 12 round in one week.
Stephenk29
03-21-2009, 04:21 PM
What if we were to just pick one night, get on the Redszone chat, and finish this thing off?
AtomicDumpling
03-21-2009, 04:32 PM
What if we were to just pick one night, get on the Redszone chat, and finish this thing off?
We may have to do that. I hope not. The reason we had a slow draft is so we would have more control over our teams. Those one-hour speed drafts are for newbies and casual players. If you want to take your draft and your team seriously you need more than a minute to make a decision.
So I am hoping we can get to at least round 24 before Opening Day.
It would be great if everybody can commit to:
1. Check the board more frequently from now until Opening Day.
2. Make your choices quickly when it is your turn.
3. Email the next manager.
4. Keep the draft rolling.
Thanks!
AtomicDumpling
03-21-2009, 05:08 PM
We are making good progress in the draft today. 8 picks have already been made. Everyone has made their picks in a timely fashion -- and have selected strong players.
Let's keep it rolling!
*BaseClogger*
03-21-2009, 07:38 PM
18.5 Kevin Gregg
18.9 Mark Lowe.
I meant 19.9 Mark Lowe
Somebody wake Nate. his time limit has expired for two picks.
I woke up and took Jair Jjjjuuurrrjjjjeeeennnnsss and Mr. Kuo.
Jurjens was a good pick. Why do I always forget about him?
Branyan off the board. Baseclogger is up.
*BaseClogger*
03-23-2009, 12:54 PM
You guys are making too many picks before I am awake!
Okay, I just made my pick. 20.5 Wandy Rodriguez
I've got three guys on my watch list (it was 4, but now I have Branyan)
I'd really just like to pick those three now. :)
AtomicDumpling
03-24-2009, 12:10 AM
Thatwould work great for me. So from now on if after the time limit or if my turn happens to fall during the morning or early afternoon feel free to add the best player for me that way im not holding things up i have confidence in your choice.:D
CRF2000 takes Jorge Posada with pick 20.7
CRF2000's time limit expired so I gave him the top-ranked player
OK, with pick 21.12 I took the PRIESTS OF THE TEMPLE OF SYRINX
THROW UP THE HORNS!
\m/ \m/
err...Juan Pierre and Jason Motte...next!
OK, with pick 21.12 I took the PRIESTS OF THE TEMPLE OF SYRINX
THROW UP THE HORNS!
\m/ \m/
err...Juan Pierre and Jason Motte...next!
grumble. I was planning on taking Motte with my next pick.
redsfandan
03-25-2009, 05:13 PM
I almost took him with my last pick. Alot of hype & alot of k's. But not alot of experience vs major league hitters, a little too many walks in the minors, and who knows who will end up with how many saves in St Louis. Will there be a committee? Will it be Motte? Perez? Both? Can't blame using a 22nd round pick on him though.
If you can get 20+ saves out of the 22nd round, you've done a fine job drafting.
OK but no one wants to throw up the horns with me?
redsfandan
03-25-2009, 06:39 PM
\m/ \m/ :p:
*BaseClogger*
03-25-2009, 08:25 PM
nate I'll trade you Perez to pair with him...
There we go!
Throwing up the horns traditionally makes the draft go faster!
\m/ \m/
nate I'll trade you Perez to pair with him...
Which Perez? Timo? Oliver? Tony? Hilton?
*BaseClogger*
03-26-2009, 12:05 AM
Which Perez? Timo? Oliver? Tony? Hilton?
Haha Chris Perez stupid ;). He and Motte will be fighting for saves in St. Louis for years to come and I figured you would want to handcuff...
AtomicDumpling
03-26-2009, 03:21 AM
Thatwould work great for me .So from now on if after the time limit or if my turn happens to fall during the morning or early afternoon feel free to add the best player for me that way im not holding things up i have confidence in your choice.:D
CRF2000 takes Hideki Matsui with pick 22.7
CRF2000's time limit expired so I gave him the top-ranked player
Haha Chris Perez stupid ;). He and Motte will be fighting for saves in St. Louis for years to come and I figured you would want to handcuff...
Are you nuts?
Don't you know by now that there's no way I think that far ahead!
:cool:
*BaseClogger*
03-27-2009, 03:49 AM
I hate how low Yahoo has Brandon Lyon ranked... :angry:
gilpdawg
03-27-2009, 04:51 AM
I'm going to bed....I won't be up until noon or 1 pm and I pick next. I'll pm AD with the guy I want.
AtomicDumpling
03-27-2009, 09:06 PM
CRF2000 and reds77 have both been skipped in round 23. They can make their picks whenever they return to the website.
Stephenk29 is on the clock for pick 23.11
I took Tak Saito and Cammy.
cinredsfan2000
03-28-2009, 05:02 PM
Sorry it took me so long to get back to check things i took Jed lowrie
AtomicDumpling
03-28-2009, 05:24 PM
Sorry it took me so long to get back to check things i took Jed lowrie
Welcome back. We were beginning to worry about you.
You are up again. Go ahead and make your 24.7 pick.
cinredsfan2000
03-29-2009, 12:21 PM
24.7 from last night Jason giambi:thumbup:
*BaseClogger*
04-01-2009, 12:54 PM
Score! I'm tied for first!
half my team seems to be sleepers.
I'm either a genius or a moron.
I'm going with genius.
AtomicDumpling
04-01-2009, 03:18 PM
Score! I'm tied for first!
Enjoy it while it lasts. I will have a lock on that 1st place slot all season long. :p:
camisadelgolf
04-01-2009, 03:21 PM
I'd like to see if anyone can beat my pitching this season. I have a feeling that David Price, Ian Kennedy, and Phil Hughes will be giving up very few runs this season.
*BaseClogger*
04-01-2009, 03:30 PM
I'd like to see if anyone can beat my pitching this season. I have a feeling that David Price, Ian Kennedy, and Phil Hughes will be giving up very few runs this season.
You mean 2013, right?
camisadelgolf
04-01-2009, 03:49 PM
You mean 2013, right?
If you ask me, they'll give up more runs against ML hitters in 2013 than in 2009.
AtomicDumpling
04-01-2009, 06:36 PM
I'd like to see if anyone can beat my pitching this season. I have a feeling that David Price, Ian Kennedy, and Phil Hughes will be giving up very few runs this season.
That is because they will be in the minor leagues. :D
camisadelgolf
04-01-2009, 06:48 PM
That is because they will be in the minor leagues. :D
Shouldn't you be drafting right now? :cool:
AtomicDumpling
04-01-2009, 07:06 PM
Shouldn't you be drafting right now? :cool:
27.2 Todd Helton
CHAMPIONSHIP !!!
:thumbup: :p: :KoolAid:
camisadelgolf
04-01-2009, 07:10 PM
I took Jack Cust, so I believe mbgrayson is up.
mbgrayson
04-01-2009, 10:46 PM
Enjoy it while it lasts. I will have a lock on that 1st place slot all season long. :p:
Hmmm, thats funny. My projections show me in first place.....
*BaseClogger*
04-02-2009, 12:00 PM
I made my pick. TRF is up...
I took Thames. Reds77 is up.
I took Jon Rauch and one of the Molinas with 27.12 and 28.01.
I feel like we've been drafting since 1982. How many more rounds?
redsfandan
04-02-2009, 06:32 PM
I feel like we've been drafting since 1982. How many more rounds?
The 29th is the last round.
AtomicDumpling
04-04-2009, 01:34 PM
Regarding Rick Porcello:
Back when we started the draft (seems like forever ago now) I published a list of rules on the league website and in the Redszone discussion thread (post #23 in this thread). Rule #3 on that list stated that players added to the player pool after the draft began would not be eligible to be drafted.
The reason we had the rule is to make sure that everyone has an equal shot at all the players. Last year we had the problem that some highly desirable players (like Edinson Volquez and Evan Longoria) were added to Yahoo in the middle of the draft, which meant that the owner whose turn was up would suddenly have a chance to take a top-notch player that previous owners could not.
It didn't happen much this year because Yahoo started with all the rookies, prospects and injured players in the FA pool from the very beginning. Last year the player pool was much smaller at the beginning and they added dozens of players during March.
This year Rick Porcello was really the only good player affected by the rule.
After the draft I will put Rick Porcello on waivers. That will give everyone a fair shot at him if you want him.
OK, I _think_ it was my pick (StephenK emailed me to say it was) and with the "Mr. Irrelevant" pick, I took #15 on the field but #1 in your hearts, Jerry "Harris" Hairston, Jr.
Man, I totally just set my lineup. I can't believe the season starts tomorrow.
One thing I love about fantasy BB over fantasy FB is the long grind over the season.
Here's to grinding!
*BaseClogger*
04-05-2009, 02:40 PM
So I can freely add free agents now, right?
*BaseClogger*
04-05-2009, 02:46 PM
Oops! I just noticed Stephen hasn't picked yet. If you need to drop Juan Cruz from my roster just go ahead AD...
Oops! I just noticed Stephen hasn't picked yet. If you need to drop Juan Cruz from my roster just go ahead AD...
I could've sworn he did. He sent me an email at least.
AtomicDumpling
04-05-2009, 09:05 PM
The draft is over. You can pick up players at your leisure now.
I will send Rick Porcello to waivers. I can't find a way to do this with the commissioner tools provided by Yahoo. Does anyone know how this can be done?
I might have to add him to my team for a day, then drop him to the waiver list. So if you see me add Porcello to my team I am not trying to snag him illegally.
The first game of the season is underway right now. The Braves are playing the Phillies.
AtomicDumpling
04-06-2009, 01:18 AM
So now that the draft is over, how do you feel about your team? Do you feel like you will compete for the championship? Or does your team need some work?
Who do you think has the strongest team?
*BaseClogger*
04-06-2009, 01:40 AM
So now that the draft is over, how do you feel about your team? Do you feel like you will compete for the championship? Or does your team need some work?
Who do you think has the strongest team?
Through like 10 rounds I really liked my team. Then I lost focus a little bit and began to worry. I like my final roster because I have a good mix of ready-to-win talent with young guys like Cahill, Anderson, and Wallace. I think I can compete for the championship but it is going to require some more moves because my team is a little imbalanced. I was much more worried about my team until I looked at the other rosters :cool:.
As for other rosters--Atomic Dumpling has a great offense and a ridiculous amount of closers (6!) but I'm worried about him having any SP depth after Santana and Sabathia (!). Of course, that is two more SP than camisadelgolf has :lol:. I like mbgrayson's offense too but he is short on pitching all around. Like camisadelgolf, redsfandan has a young team with a bright future. Speaking of upside, TRF's team is either gonna be awesome or be selling by late May :lol:. Nate has one of the best teams if he can mine some closers. WMR has a lacking offense but a great pitching staff also in need of saves (where are all of the closers? Oh yeah, on AD's team ;)). reds77 and gilpdawg have a solid teams. CRF2000 has talent but he needs to transfer some offense for arms and AD's closers.
That's my take. Sorry if I was brutally honest. Take it for what it's worth... :)
AtomicDumpling
04-06-2009, 02:35 AM
I am happy with my team. I think I will be strong in every category, but SB will be my weakest stat. My team has depth and a good balance. I have a good mix of youth and proven value. Of course I always think my teams are good after the draft, but sometimes I am delusional.
The league should be very competitive this year. There are several very strong teams. I was surprised by a couple teams after looking at their rosters because I hadn't noticed during the draft how many good players they were accumulating. Reds77 and gilpdawg fall into that category.
I was expecting BaseCloggers and mbgrayson to put together solid teams and they did. We played together last year so I already knew they are good managers. BaseClogger has a proven cast of hitters and nice balance of SPs and closers. Definitely a threat to win. Mbgrayson also has good balance on offense and will probably win the steals stat. His pitching is solid but could use another closer.
No dud teams in this league. So you better bring your A game if you want to come in 2nd place. 1st place is already locked up for me.
Redsfandan has a very strong track record. He put together a very young team full of uber-prospects.
stephenk29 has an excellent offense and some good closers. He may need to finagle his starting pitching due to injuries.
TRF has an unorthodox team to my eye. He has excellent pitching. He grabbed a mix of vets and high-upside youngsters on offense. SBs a problem?
CRF2000 has a very nice offense across the board. His starting pitching is solid but he lacks relievers.
WMR has 10 starting pitchers, some of whom are excellent young prospects. His relievers are sparse. His offense is eclectic and good. It will be interesting to see how his team plays out.
Camisadelgolf has a rocking offense and 3 stud closers, but only one major league starting pitcher. He needs to swing deals with gilpdawg (9 SPs) and WMR (10 SPs) to obtain some starters.
Nate has solid team all around. His offense will rake. He needs saves and maybe steals.
No dud teams in this league. You better bring your A game if you want to come in 2nd. (1st place has already been locked up for me.)
gilpdawg
04-06-2009, 03:06 AM
I've never really played in a baseball league I took seriously, so I'm hoping you guys don't make a fool of me. I've been playing fantasy football since I was 14 or so, and I'm 31 now, but I've never really done baseball. I didn't realize it, but I drafted too many OFs, and I have NO depth at the IF positions. :)
I have a real hard time evaluating the teams until about two months into the season. I mean, when you get to pick from all the players in the game, ALL the teams look good. I will say that BC and AD hit upon the two things I know I'm missing: saves and SB. I almost took Willy T early on just to help myself out here. Saves, it seemed like Billy Wagner was ALWAYS up there but is he ever going to pitch again? Dunno. So, I just tried to pick up some "stems and seeds" dudes.
Also, I think one can play the waiver wire shuffle throughout the year (which, to me, is part of the fun) to cobble together some of these areas where you're short. I tried to get position versatility so I always have the option to sub in a "hot hand."
I always undervalue SB's. dunno why, I just turn a blind eye. I really focused on high upside and somewhat risky players. I think it could be a fun team.
I will say I think I have the best pitching. Excellent starters four good relievers. At C I have a sleeper in Baker and Navarro who is looking to build on an All Star performance. I like that I chose so many players with multiple position eligibility. I picked up Kearns on waivers as I believe he is playing for his baseball life, he's healthy and he won the starting RF job. Also just added Nick Johnson.
My team is fraught with high upside risk players. :)
I love it.
I do have three Nats though.
Stephenk29 could lead the league in SB's
Gilpdawg has a nice mix of power and speed. looks to be short on saves.
CRF2000 has a ton of position players and is short on saves as well. Getting Drew late has some upside.
redfandan has a great team top to bottom. kudos sir.
WMR should go ahead and concede the season :D I mean crown him as champion.
camisadelgolf has a good offense, solid to great relievers but weak SP IMO.
I am soooo going to crush you guys.
camisadelgolf
04-06-2009, 01:16 PM
I wouldn't really say my SP is weak. I'd describe it more as 'non-existent'. I'm not concerned, but I'm definitely open to trades.
I wouldn't really say my SP is weak. I'd describe it more as 'non-existent'. I'm not concerned, but I'm definitely open to trades.
I was being kind. :D
AtomicDumpling
04-06-2009, 02:41 PM
I am soooo going to crush you guys.
Bring. It. ON!
oh, it's brought. BTW I got a HR last night hasn't shown up on the scoreboard.
NM It's there.
*BaseClogger*
04-06-2009, 03:11 PM
Yay! Averageness! :D
mbgrayson
04-08-2009, 01:00 AM
To manage my draft, I use a piece of software called RotoLab. It links with Ron Shandler's baseball Forcaster and uses those projections for each player to project overall how everyone is going to do in each stat category. As the draft progressed, i entered each choice into the software, although i may have missed a few picks since my last draft pick. The projections also depend on who is played in the slots that count on each roster, and no credit is given for bench players.
Here are the category leaders as projected by Rotolab:
Wins: nate
Saves: Camis
StrikeOuts: Gilpdawg
Era: TRF
WHIP: Atomic Dumpling
Runs: mbgrayson
HRs: mbgrayson
RBIs: stephenk
Steals: mbgrayson
Avg.: redsfandan
This software has me leading overall, but then it should, since I often followed the 'advice' of this software in drafting.(It rates Baseclogger second...) And as we all know, none of the projection systems are all that accurate, no better than about 70% at best. I also used PECOTA from Baseball Prospectus, Bill James Handbook projections, Sporting News, and the Rotowire draft guide. I generally looked for younger players since this is a dynasty league. I then compiled these five rating systems into a spreasheet of players I was interested in, and looked for players that were highly rated in multiple systems, with heavier emphasis on Shandler and Baseball Prospectus ratings. Later in the draft, I looked at spring training numbers, and especially injury reports, to make some decisions. I also used the Baseball America 2009 Prospect Guide and John Sickels 2009 Prospect Book to rank prospects.
I have tried drafting by the seat of my pants before, and I tend to do better with a more systematic (and obsessive) approach. But there are so many factors that come into play, like injuries. I already have Joe Mauer, Scott Baker, and Joey Devine on the DL, and only one DL slot available.
I do find that fantasy baseball makes me better enjoy baseball in general. I think I can name the closers on almost every team now, when before I couldn't have done that...
Ok, I spilled my secrets....what approach do you guys all use?
*BaseClogger*
04-08-2009, 01:53 AM
I make a spreadsheet for hitters, but not pitchers. I just project each hitter's numbers based on their career stats and how I feel about them. Then I come up with z scores including position scarcity and use that as a guide, but I still just sort of go by personal opinion...
edit: I find it interesting that I am projected to finish 2nd overall but not 1st in any individual category...
AtomicDumpling
04-08-2009, 02:58 AM
Wow. I am impressed with your diligence and effort. It will be very interesting to see if it pays off. I am going to win the league, but hopefully your system will earn you second place. :thumbup:
How much did all those resources cost you?
I did a lot of research on prospects and really learned a lot. I made a spreadsheet to graph out the rankings of all the various experts. Other than the top 10 or so prospects the experts were all over the map with their opinions. I didn't take too many prospects because I wanted to win this year while also having a solid foundation for future seasons. There is a new crop of prospects every year right? ;)
I was familiar enough with the established players to wing it somewhat. I take the best player available without worrying too much about positions until late in the draft.
I tried to concentrate on all 10 stats. I tend to draft teams without any stolen bases, so I made a concerted effort to take some guys that steal bases this time.
I am confident that my team will be pretty good at all ten stat categories. I may not win any of them, but I will be in double figures in nearly every category if my predictions are accurate.
I tend to mix and match players a lot rather than using the same lineup every day. That may confuse the Shandler program a bit. My team is also likely to look very different in September than it does in April. I like to make trades and swap out free agents.
Well, this is going to be a very fun season. I can't wait to see who rises to the top and wins the inaugural championship. Probably me. :D
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