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JBChance
02-18-2009, 11:45 PM
With Dunn and KGJ gone, who will emerge as the new RBI guy for the Reds? Will they have 100 RBI?

justincredible
02-19-2009, 09:11 AM
The guy from Canadia.

xavr1
02-19-2009, 10:32 AM
Dusty's lineup will obviously be a huge factor in this, but I think Bruce has a great shot. I think his stats last year had him projected around 95 or so over a full season

Jerome
02-19-2009, 10:51 AM
Votto had 86 last year with Dunn and Griff in the lineup. Seems like a given. Also Micah Owings.


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fourrunhomer
02-19-2009, 10:58 AM
I voted EdE, but I believe it could be any of these four.

Nasty_Boy
02-19-2009, 11:33 AM
I voted for Votto, but if Bruce is hitting 5th he'll probably have the most chances with Votto hitting in front of him. If Votto and Edwin were hitting 3-4, then I'm pretty sure Bruce would lead the way. I don't have much confidence in Willy getting on base enough in the leadoff spot and whoever is hitting 2nd (b/c Dusty won't use Dickerson here) to give Votto enough opportunities.

Steviejoe
02-19-2009, 11:54 AM
I belive it will be Votto,with Bruce a close second.But i am hoping EE really has his breakout year,with his bat,glove and faith.Bring on opening day.

BPhillips4
02-19-2009, 12:53 PM
Purely from an ability to drive them in standpoint, I'd say Votto. But the lineup construction will play a big role in this. If Joey ends up hitting 3rd with guys like Taveras and Hairston ahead of him, then the opportunities just may not be there.

CRedsLarkin11
02-19-2009, 03:38 PM
I'm going with Votto, I think he's really going to come on this year

Nasty_Boy
02-19-2009, 05:49 PM
Votto (like Dunn) would be a 110+ RBI on a good team hitting 3rd or 4th in the lineup. I just wonder what kind of chances he's going to get with the automatic outs in front and behind him.

Kingspoint
02-19-2009, 06:06 PM
EE because Votto won't have as many players on base in front of him EE will in front of him.

gedred69
02-21-2009, 01:43 PM
EE because Votto won't have as many players on base in front of him EE will in front of him.

I voted Votto on his ability, but you make (sadly), a very good point.

goreds2
02-22-2009, 12:48 AM
We need a break out year from EE to win. I voted for him.

thatcoolguy_22
02-22-2009, 03:02 AM
At first I voted for Votto but now I think it would be impossible for him to lead the team. At best he hits 35 HR. Outside of that, from the 3 hole, he will be trying to hit in Taveras and Gonzalez. Basically Votto will be hitting with nobody on and 2 outs quite often :) So whoever hits in the 5 slot (Bruce) behind Brandon Phillips in the 4 will have a lot more RBI opportunities. Bruce in '09

I think that made sense :D

EdSqaubensee
02-22-2009, 08:42 PM
EE!!!! gonna be a big year for Edwin- .290 35 Homers 105 Rib Eyes

WildcatFan
02-22-2009, 09:12 PM
I voted for Votto but REALLY hope it's Edwin. If he has a breakout year, the Reds are in the playoff race.

Kingspoint
02-23-2009, 06:18 PM
At first I voted for Votto but now I think it would be impossible for him to lead the team. At best he hits 35 HR. Outside of that, from the 3 hole, he will be trying to hit in Taveras and Gonzalez. Basically Votto will be hitting with nobody on and 2 outs quite often :) So whoever hits in the 5 slot (Bruce) behind Brandon Phillips in the 4 will have a lot more RBI opportunities. Bruce in '09

I think that made sense :D

That's how I'd do the math, too.

dcruz
02-24-2009, 05:19 PM
Sorry, new here... A lot of people are talking about Owings as if he has a lot to contribute offensively, is he that good of a hitter(as a pitcher)? Thanks

HalMorrisRules
02-24-2009, 05:30 PM
I voted for Votto but I truly do hope that it is EE because it would mean that we are getting good production from an important right handed bat.

TeamSelig
02-24-2009, 06:58 PM
lol@someone voting Owings, who isn't going to be an every day player but probably a BP or 5th starter and maybe a pinch hitter

NastyBoy
02-24-2009, 07:05 PM
Any chance we have 2 guys with 100+ RBIs?

Nasty_Boy
02-24-2009, 09:23 PM
Not unless we have 2-3 guys OB over .350.

Say Hairston comes close to last season in the leadoff spot because Taveras gets hurt, and Dickerson on bases at at .350+ clip from the 2 hole... then I could see Votto and Bruce, who has been moved to cleanup due to BP's ineffectiveness, both pushing the 100 RBI mark.

Ohioballplayer
02-24-2009, 09:52 PM
I will say Votto and EE if Taveras and #2 in the lineup actually OBP over .360

Kingspoint
02-24-2009, 11:36 PM
Not unless we have 2-3 guys OB over .350.

Say Hairston comes close to last season in the leadoff spot because Taveras gets hurt, and Dickerson on bases at at .350+ clip from the 2 hole... then I could see Votto and Bruce, who has been moved to cleanup due to BP's ineffectiveness, both pushing the 100 RBI mark.

I think that's also the key to us reaching the playoffs. Those things have to happen along with Gonzalez playing at least average Defense at Shortstop for 3/4th's of the season,... and.... we have to have the pitching that we had in the second half of last season.

Nasty_Boy
02-24-2009, 11:45 PM
Seems kinda out there huh?

I hope it all comes together, but this team and certain players (Taveras, Phillips, and Bruce) must find a way to get on base at a higher clip.

It would also be nice to see the young pitchers step up and hopefully we play enough defense to help them out.

The Reds need a lot of things to break their way, because the Cubs are freaking nasty.

jmac
02-25-2009, 12:30 PM
At first I voted for Votto but now I think it would be impossible for him to lead the team. At best he hits 35 HR. Outside of that, from the 3 hole, he will be trying to hit in Taveras and Gonzalez. Basically Votto will be hitting with nobody on and 2 outs quite often :) So whoever hits in the 5 slot (Bruce) behind Brandon Phillips in the 4 will have a lot more RBI opportunities. Bruce in '09

I think that made sense :D
This is my thinking so you saved me from typing it all ! :thumbup:

Red
02-27-2009, 11:44 AM
I went with Votto

Shawn_RedsFan
02-27-2009, 04:07 PM
EE, Reds will suprise everyone and so will Edwin

BSUFB
02-27-2009, 04:31 PM
I also think EE is breaking out this year.

Shawn_RedsFan
02-27-2009, 04:38 PM
As of today everyone jump on EE's bandwagon :D

Nasty_Boy
02-27-2009, 05:00 PM
I don't think EE busting out would be a suprise. He has been posting 800+ OPS' and he bopped 26 bombs last season. And let's not forget that he's younger than Votto, Phillips, Taveras, and Dickerson... he just seems to have been around forever. I think EE putting together a consistent season from start to finish would be part of his natural progression. And pardon me if I seem to be picking knits.

gedred69
02-27-2009, 07:34 PM
I don't think EE busting out would be a suprise. He has been posting 800+ OPS' and he bopped 26 bombs last season. And let's not forget that he's younger than Votto, Phillips, Taveras, and Dickerson... he just seems to have been around forever. I think EE putting together a consistent season from start to finish would be part of his natural progression. And pardon me if I seem to be picking knits.

Correct sir, a breakout from EE wouldn't be a surprise, rather, it's to be expected. I have doubts but I also have hope that EE doesn't prove to be another DD. (Danny Driessen).

GOYA
02-27-2009, 07:39 PM
Bruce. Because of reasons already mentioned. He will have more opportunities than Votto and will take advantage of those opportunities better than EE.

flash
02-27-2009, 09:53 PM
Although the home run is important it not always is the best producer of RBI's Morneau had 129 rbi's last year (second in the AL) with just 23 home runs. Youkillis 115 with 29 home runs.

Also Dunn has never had 110 RBI's in a season.

Nasty_Boy
02-27-2009, 10:05 PM
RBI is a totally team dependent stat. You gotta have guys on base to drive them in... also guys like Morneau and Youkillis are high OPS guys, combine a high OPS with opportunities and the result is a high number of RBIs.