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MWM
02-20-2009, 05:39 PM
Much sooner than I thought. Should be fun to watch. Any predictions on how he'll do in match play? Or how long it will take him until he wins?

I could be stupid for saying this, but I don't think it's going to happen as soon as some presume. I think by the British he'll be rounding back into form and is going to win the PGA at Hazeltine (which I will be attending).

Highlifeman21
02-20-2009, 05:57 PM
Bold Prediction, he wins the Masters.

Bolder Prediction, he wins no majors in 2009.

Chip R
02-20-2009, 09:33 PM
I'm looking forward to it.

Redhook
02-21-2009, 08:10 AM
Golf is back! I'm really looking forward to watching him again. I actually joined a fantasy golf league with my boss this year to make the tournaments exciting to watch. Now, I feel like I'm double-dipping with Tiger coming back early. And that reminds me, I need to make a trade.

Highlifeman21
02-22-2009, 12:57 AM
Golf is back! I'm really looking forward to watching him again. I actually joined a fantasy golf league with my boss this year to make the tournaments exciting to watch. Now, I feel like I'm double-dipping with Tiger coming back early. And that reminds me, I need to make a trade.

You need to go to a meeting.

Pete started with Horses, you started with "Fantasy Golf"

SunDeck
02-22-2009, 12:59 PM
I'm getting a kick out of the reactions his PGA colleagues are giving in interviews. Just once I'd like one of the to say something like, "What does it mean for me? Well, now I'm ranked 31st instead of 30th."

MWM
02-22-2009, 03:55 PM
Yeah, it is interesting. These guys are all super competitive, so they all want to win, and they all have to know their chances are less when he's around. But they also have to know his presence makes all of them a lot more money. Reggie Miller once made a comment when asked about Michael Jordan that while it does get tiring being asked about him, that every NBA player should have a portion of their check sent to MJ as commission for the extra money they all make because of him.

About 4 years ago, I was in a job that allowed me to actually go down to PGA headquarters in Ponte Vedra and pitch some things to the PGA marketing group. In our conversations throughout the day, "pre-Tiger" and "post-Tiger" is just a part of their every day vernacular down there. Everything changed in 1997 when he won the Masters. It's just accepted now that he's the driver behind it all. It's a distinct moment in time for the sport.

Red
02-24-2009, 07:57 AM
I could care less about Tiger coming back. It has been nice to watch coverage of golf tournaments where more than 1 player is showed hitting shots. I prefer to watch other players play over watching Tiger walk up and down the fairways, sip water, eat bananas and glare at cameramen. I have watched the same amount of golf that I always watch while Tiger has been out and all I can say to people who have shyed away, you either aren't a golf fan or you have no idea what you are missing.

I can't argue that Tiger makes the tour a bunch of money or that beating Tiger is more of an accomplishment than not beating him but the tour is bigger than Tiger and a lot of folks just don't see it that way. Golf is a sport where major career changing events happen all over the globe on a weekly basis. That is why the people who have been in mourning the last 8 months as though golf was dead have made little sense to me.

Golf will be at its best when Tiger has as much competition as possible. I think the number of players who can challenge Tiger is as high as it has ever been. Now it would just be nice if we could concentrate on some of these guys. But with Tiger back that won't happen. The coverage of the very big, WGC event this week won't be about the very big WGC event this week, it will be about Tiger's return. Big story, but not bigger than the tourney IMO. That is why I will be cheering hard for Tiger to be gone before NBC picks up coverage on Saturday. Dan Hicks and Johnny Miller having to announce a pair of semifinal matches on Saturday featuring Soren Kljedsen, Louis Oosthuizen, Richard Sterne and Anders Hansen would leave me, absolutely giddy.

SunDeck
02-24-2009, 10:38 AM
I agree that it's annoying that Tiger is often on camera walking down the fairway while other players are hitting shots. When he plays this week, my prediction is that it'll be like there are only two guys playing. And it would be worse if it were stroke play because then it would be like only one guy was playing. The ideal thing that could happen from the fan point of view would be for a few players to challenge him this year instead of rolling over every time he is five strokes off the lead.

Obviously, it's hard to say how Woods will do after such a long layoff, but my prediction is that it will take a little time for him to work on his stroke under competitive conditions, and he'll probably struggle a little to get back in the playing frame of mind. He'll get it together and be in the hunt in the final round of the Masters.

kaldaniels
02-24-2009, 10:47 AM
Bold Prediction, he wins the Masters.

Bolder Prediction, he wins no majors in 2009.

I ran to the sportsbook after reading this hoping to lay some cash on high odds that Tiger wouldn win 0 majors...unfortunately it is even odds right now.

2 to 1 that he wins 1 major.
3 to 1 that he wins 2.
20-1 that he wins the Grand Slam in 2009.

Hoosier Red
02-24-2009, 11:55 AM
Many have talked about the advantages of Match Play and I agree, only having to beat one player at a time, (and the opponents have historically played about 3 strokes above average when facing El Tigre) makes this a pretty ideal way to get his stroke back in order.

bucksfan2
02-24-2009, 03:24 PM
Many have talked about the advantages of Match Play and I agree, only having to beat one player at a time, (and the opponents have historically played about 3 strokes above average when facing El Tigre) makes this a pretty ideal way to get his stroke back in order.

I don't think he has the endurance to play 18, 18, 36, 36 in 4 straight days. That is why I was a little surprised to see him come back this week.

Hoosier Red
02-24-2009, 03:32 PM
Of course if he wins 9 & 8 he only has to play 10 holes :)

Highlifeman21
02-24-2009, 08:44 PM
I don't think he has the endurance to play 18, 18, 36, 36 in 4 straight days. That is why I was a little surprised to see him come back this week.

(cough) contractual obligation (coug)

Razor Shines
02-24-2009, 10:58 PM
Golf is back! I'm really looking forward to watching him again. I actually joined a fantasy golf league with my boss this year to make the tournaments exciting to watch. Now, I feel like I'm double-dipping with Tiger coming back early. And that reminds me, I need to make a trade.



I could care less about Tiger coming back. It has been nice to watch coverage of golf tournaments where more than 1 player is showed hitting shots. I prefer to watch other players play over watching Tiger walk up and down the fairways, sip water, eat bananas and glare at cameramen. I have watched the same amount of golf that I always watch while Tiger has been out and all I can say to people who have shyed away, you either aren't a golf fan or you have no idea what you are missing.

I can't argue that Tiger makes the tour a bunch of money or that beating Tiger is more of an accomplishment than not beating him but the tour is bigger than Tiger and a lot of folks just don't see it that way. Golf is a sport where major career changing events happen all over the globe on a weekly basis. That is why the people who have been in mourning the last 8 months as though golf was dead have made little sense to me.

Golf will be at its best when Tiger has as much competition as possible. I think the number of players who can challenge Tiger is as high as it has ever been. Now it would just be nice if we could concentrate on some of these guys. But with Tiger back that won't happen. The coverage of the very big, WGC event this week won't be about the very big WGC event this week, it will be about Tiger's return. Big story, but not bigger than the tourney IMO. That is why I will be cheering hard for Tiger to be gone before NBC picks up coverage on Saturday. Dan Hicks and Johnny Miller having to announce a pair of semifinal matches on Saturday featuring Soren Kljedsen, Louis Oosthuizen, Richard Sterne and Anders Hansen would leave me, absolutely giddy.

Yeah, redhook, you must not like golf. If you only knew what it was like being one of the unnamed golfers grinding it out, then you'd get it. :D

Chip R
02-25-2009, 10:33 AM
I don't think he has the endurance to play 18, 18, 36, 36 in 4 straight days. That is why I was a little surprised to see him come back this week.


You really think he hasn't done that already?

paintmered
02-27-2009, 07:29 AM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1YuF80kgIsE

Red
02-27-2009, 11:37 AM
Yeah, redhook, you must not like golf. If you only knew what it was like being one of the unnamed golfers grinding it out, then you'd get it. :D

I'm not here to put words in anyones mouth but if you say "golf is back" then it would seem to me you care more about Tiger Woods than you do the game itself. But to be clear, my comments were in general terms and not about any poster.

I personally don't think the game went anywhere. Majors were still played, a Fed Ex champ was crowned and the Ryder Cup was as good as ever. All without Tiger. This event will now carry on without him.

Red
02-27-2009, 11:41 AM
You really think he hasn't done that already?

I would bet that Tiger has yet to play more than 18 holes of golf in a single day. I am sure he has worn out the range at Isleworth but I don't think he is leaving the house and telling Elin he'll be back after he gets 36 in. No way. Tiger doesn't gain anything by playing his home course all day. He is working on the green, working on his short game, hitting the range, lifting, etc, etc. He isn't out playing 36 holes.

Redhook
02-27-2009, 06:39 PM
I'm not here to put words in anyones mouth but if you say "golf is back" then it would seem to me you care more about Tiger Woods than you do the game itself. But to be clear, my comments were in general terms and not about any poster.

I personally don't think the game went anywhere. Majors were still played, a Fed Ex champ was crowned and the Ryder Cup was as good as ever. All without Tiger. This event will now carry on without him.

I didn't take offense to your comment and find your statements interesting.

Razor was joking though. He knows part of my story. I'm a golf pro. I make my living on the game. I obviously love the game and was half-joking when I said Tiger is back. I am excited he is back though. To me, he makes the game more interesting to watch. Heck, I would hope that most people would rather watch Tiger play and some schmo like myself.

Razor Shines
03-29-2009, 10:42 PM
Who else was watching the Arnie Invitational? I was looking forward to watching basketball and golf, but I'll admit that I pretty much stuck to golf. Tiger is too much fun to watch. It was awesome to see him sink that put on 18 to win it, again.

icehole3
03-30-2009, 04:08 AM
saw it as well, just to much drama to turn back to the BBall game, he knew the ball was going in halfway thru the putt, amazing.

cincrazy
03-30-2009, 06:17 AM
He's baaaaaaacccccccckkkkkkkkkkkkkk.

SunDeck
03-30-2009, 09:01 AM
I was impressed with the way Tiger kept grinding, shooting a 67 to put himself in position to tie. It was a great effort on his part for sure, but the most amazing thing to me is the automatic failure rate of the guys he is chasing. Tiger did the work to put himself there, but O'Hair did the rest of the work for him.

Watching O'Hair implode was tough, but the worst part was listening to Johnny Miller, Smartest Man on Earth. Can't wait for the game to go back to CBS.

Matt700wlw
03-30-2009, 10:05 AM
Wow. Just wow.

Tiger Woods may be the best clutch performer in sports.

MWM
03-30-2009, 12:34 PM
Ugh! My DVR was set and it ran over the time (I always set it longer, but didn't this time). It cut after the birdie on 15. I missed the last 3 holes.

Let's see, he's in the top 10 in his first stroke play tourney after being off 9 months, and not even being able to swing for most of that time, and he wins in his second one. Just ridiculous. The scary part is, he's most likely better now than he's ever been with a healthy knee (assuming his knee holds up). His short game is improved as that's all he could do for a while. Could be an amazing couple of years.

I'll go on record as saying he wins 4 in the next two years. I'd like to say he'll win 4 of next 5 or 6, and that would not at all surprise me, but you just can't predict that, not even for Tiger. I'm comfortable saying 4 of 8.

icehole3
03-31-2009, 07:15 AM
Did anyone catch his daily workout schedule, it was ridiculous, weights, golf, weights, golf, 9 rounds before lunch, weights, golf, weights, golf on and on all day, my goodness.

Redhook
03-31-2009, 07:43 AM
Did anyone catch his daily workout schedule, it was ridiculous, weights, golf, weights, golf, 9 rounds before lunch, weights, golf, weights, golf on and on all day, my goodness.

It's just golf. No big deal. ;)

Believe it or not, his average day is similar to the girl I caddied for on the LPGA Tour. She's Korean and she worked her tail off. Almost all the Koreans do. It's amazing. 12+ hour days are the standard. It wore me out.

SunDeck
03-31-2009, 08:50 AM
It's just golf. No big deal. ;)



If you listen to Johnny Miller, golf is grueling. A contact sport.:rolleyes:

Redhook
03-31-2009, 05:51 PM
If you listen to Johnny Miller, golf is grueling. A contact sport.:rolleyes:

It actually is for him when he plays now. His chipping yips make the ball "contact" a lot of people in the crowd.

icehole3
04-02-2009, 12:49 PM
if you listen at 29 seconds you can hear Tiger farting

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nate
04-02-2009, 01:07 PM
if you listen at 29 seconds you can hear Tiger farting

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I don't know why but this is one of my favorite posts of the year.