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Handofdeath
03-05-2009, 01:26 PM
According to the Dallas Morning News both players have been cut loose.

IMO, this had to happen for the Cowboys to move forward. Owens, as he does everywhere he goes, poisoned the locker room to the point that the coaches had lost control of the team. He's a great receiver but he is notorious for dropping very catchable balls and short arming passes thrown his way. Wiliams on the other hand is a LB that has been playing Safety and it shows. All too often Williams, a very hard hitter, has gone for the "kill shot" and missed tackles. Also, he has continually shown his inability to cover receivers. If the Cowboys are serious about contending for the Super Bowl next season, those two players cannot be a part of the team. Would Bengals fans be interested in getting these players?

NJReds
03-05-2009, 01:36 PM
After the disgrace of a finish to this season, as a Cowboys fan I hoped they would replace about half of the roster. This team needed an attitude adjustment badly. But I doubted that it would happen. I was wrong.

Tank Johnson, PacMan, TO, Roy Williams gone.
Hopefully Greg Ellis, who had a great career but has become a malcontent, will be let go as well.

Add to that Anthony Henry (who was a good player with diminishing skills), Chris Canty and probably Kevin Burnett (who will probably be overpaid by San Diego).

Hopefully this starts an attitude turnaround that will translate to better results on the field.

cumberlandreds
03-05-2009, 01:48 PM
As a Cowboys fan I hope Jerry Jones has learned you can't play fantasy football with real players. It doesn't work. Look at the Redskins as an example. I hope he's learned from this and sticks to signing the proper pieces that have less ego and crime in their background.

Handofdeath
03-05-2009, 01:51 PM
As a Cowboys fan I hope Jerry Jones has learned you can't play fantasy football with real players. It doesn't work. Look at the Redskins as an example. I hope he's learned from this and sticks to signing the proper pieces that have less ego and crime in their background.

Good point, the Cowboys were starting to turn into the NFC version of the Bengals.

NJReds
03-05-2009, 03:10 PM
As a Cowboys fan I hope Jerry Jones has learned you can't play fantasy football with real players. It doesn't work. Look at the Redskins as an example. I hope he's learned from this and sticks to signing the proper pieces that have less ego and crime in their background.

Jerry had a pretty rough team in the 90s. But post salary cap, you can't cover up your mistakes as easily. Then he went with nice guys and went 5-11 for three years. Then the pendulum swung back the other way.

Red
03-05-2009, 03:43 PM
Too bad TO has never been arrested (far as I know) or he would be a great fit for the Bengals.

WVRed
03-05-2009, 03:58 PM
Too bad TO has never been arrested (far as I know) or he would be a great fit for the Bengals.

I don't even want to think about Chad and TO on the same team.

Red
03-05-2009, 04:06 PM
I think Owens will end up as far west or as far east from all of us as possible. By that I mean Oakland or New England.

Oakland for obvious reasons. It is the NFL's graveyard.

New England isn't as obvious and would include some big factors. Mainly Owens agreeing to play for about nothing. The bigger issue would be Belichick agreeing to it. I would think he would be more open to it given his success with Dillon and Moss but the main question I would have is how much has Bill dealt with Drew Rosenhaus in the past? If Bill hasn't had luck with Drew in the past (and I have no clue who Rosenhaus has for clients other than the guys from the U.) then I would say there is no chance.

I think TO wants to win and will have to realize that signing for big money (Oakland) to prove his point that he is a winner is not going to accomplish what he really wants.

redsfandan
03-05-2009, 04:43 PM
Am I the only one that saw the thread title and thought you meant the wide receiver Roy Williams? I was shocked for a second. :shocked:

cincrazy
03-05-2009, 06:50 PM
I think Owens will end up as far west or as far east from all of us as possible. By that I mean Oakland or New England.

Oakland for obvious reasons. It is the NFL's graveyard.

New England isn't as obvious and would include some big factors. Mainly Owens agreeing to play for about nothing. The bigger issue would be Belichick agreeing to it. I would think he would be more open to it given his success with Dillon and Moss but the main question I would have is how much has Bill dealt with Drew Rosenhaus in the past? If Bill hasn't had luck with Drew in the past (and I have no clue who Rosenhaus has for clients other than the guys from the U.) then I would say there is no chance.

I think TO wants to win and will have to realize that signing for big money (Oakland) to prove his point that he is a winner is not going to accomplish what he really wants.

I've heard this mentioned on ESPN, but I just can't see it. Bill has had success with Moss and Dillon, but IMO, they are different players than TO. They aren't cancers in the locker room. Moss' effort has been questioned, but rarely has he been a divisive force in the locker room, and Dillon busted his butt on a sorry Bengals team for years, and it was only towards the end that the big problems occured.

Red
03-05-2009, 08:20 PM
I'm not going to say the divisive locker room is all the media's fault but are we supposed to believe that the only player in the league who has some friends and some enemies in his own locker room is TO? I wouldn't be surprised if the Giants were just as divided over Plaxico, the year they WON the Super Bowl. I'm sure every Super Bowl team has 2 guys among the 53 who would like to kill each other.

TO would not be the media story in New England. Ed Werder is not going to move to Foxboro and I think Bill makes it clear to his players, nothing better come out of your mouth that you haven't already said to the rest of the team. There has to be some reason that crap never comes about with the Pats.

George Foster
03-06-2009, 11:31 PM
T.J is kicking his agent right now. Would you rather play for the Cowboys or Seattle?

T.J. with Romo could of been special.

I assume that the Cowboys are looking for another WR...right?

Red
03-07-2009, 09:03 AM
I assume that the Cowboys are looking for another WR...right?

They shouldn't be. At least not one who is going to cost a boatload of money like TJ. They have Roy Williams, they have Witten, they have Marion Barber and Felix Jones. The money could be better spent on the line or the D or whatever. All they need is a possession guy. The offense they have now should be good enough to win.

WVRed
03-07-2009, 09:47 AM
They shouldn't be. At least not one who is going to cost a boatload of money like TJ. They have Roy Williams, they have Witten, they have Marion Barber and Felix Jones. The money could be better spent on the line or the D or whatever. All they need is a possession guy. The offense they have now should be good enough to win.

TJ is the definition of a possession wideout.

I do like the idea of Chad and TO competing each week for who can outdo each other as far as TD celebrations, and the Bengals would likely lead the league in the amount of fines paid out. That being said, having Chad as a malcontent is bad enough.

blumj
03-07-2009, 08:09 PM
Buffalo?

Red
03-07-2009, 08:29 PM
TJ is the definition of a possession wideout

With the salary cap you can't afford to break the bank on every need. If you need a possession reciever it doesn't mean you can just go out and get the highest priced possession guy. It just wouldn't be cost effective for the Cowboys with the other weapons they have offense to spend big money on another receiver. Not when their defense needs all the help it can get. With Roy Williams, Witten and the excellent run game, the Cowboys have some serious potential if they can improve the D.

Slyder
03-07-2009, 10:04 PM
In case no ones heard. TO didnt stay unemployed long. Randy now has competion for biggest... malcontent in the AFC East. Maybe Miami would take CJ ;).

Caveat Emperor
03-07-2009, 10:36 PM
Buffalo?

If he didn't like Garcia and McNabb, he's gonna HATE Trent Edwards.

blumj
03-08-2009, 07:15 AM
In case no ones heard. TO didnt stay unemployed long. Randy now has competion for biggest... malcontent in the AFC East. Maybe Miami would take CJ ;).
Randy has been anything but a malcontent since arriving in the AFC East. Honestly, you'd think getting traded to NE saved his life or something.

Red
03-08-2009, 12:22 PM
You won't hear near as much about TO now that he is in Buffalo. Just like I said about Foxboro, Ed Werder won't be moving to Orchard Park. Who is ESPN going to hire to be the offical TO correspondent, Don Cherry?

Chip R
03-08-2009, 03:52 PM
You won't hear near as much about TO now that he is in Buffalo. Just like I said about Foxboro, Ed Werder won't be moving to Orchard Park. Who is ESPN going to hire to be the offical TO correspondent, Don Cherry?


Don't bet against it. Buffalo is a lot closer to Bristol than Dallas is.

Red
03-08-2009, 07:36 PM
I just don't think Buffalo has the juice of Dallas. The last 3 years have not been about TO. They have been about TO the Cowboy. I don't think the proximity to Bristol has anything to do with it. Its what will sell. Do you think Buffalo has as many people calling into ESPN Radio as Dallas does? Its the same reason A-Rod the Yankee is such a big story, even before the roids that A-Rod the Mariner never was. The Cowboys will still be the story.

Chip R
03-08-2009, 11:26 PM
I just don't think Buffalo has the juice of Dallas. The last 3 years have not been about TO. They have been about TO the Cowboy. I don't think the proximity to Bristol has anything to do with it. Its what will sell. Do you think Buffalo has as many people calling into ESPN Radio as Dallas does? Its the same reason A-Rod the Yankee is such a big story, even before the roids that A-Rod the Mariner never was. The Cowboys will still be the story.

They don't need it. They have TO and he'd be a circus if he played in Boise, Idaho.

JBChance
03-09-2009, 01:08 AM
If he didn't like Garcia and McNabb, he's gonna HATE Trent Edwards.

Buffalo has to be paying tons more than the other suitors. Either that or there wasn't a market for him because of the problems he brings.

There are negative articles about it, to be sure. When Randy Moss went to NE, there was a bunch of negative flap, too. We know how that turned out, though. Of course, Edwards is no Tom Brady.

Red
03-09-2009, 07:23 AM
They don't need it. They have TO and he'd be a circus if he played in Boise, Idaho.

Well a circus in Dallas has a lot more media attention than a circus in Buffalo. There will be no full time Bills reporter on the ESPN staff like there was in Dallas and nobody here could even name the Bills owner, GM or president. In Dallas those folks are household names. We also don't care about Dick Jauron and can't pick on him like we can Wade Phillips. There is simply nothing to talk about.

RichRed
03-09-2009, 09:37 AM
They don't need it. They have TO and he'd be a circus if he played in Boise, Idaho.

Plus, Berman loves the Bills. Get ready to hear about them "circling the wagons" ad nauseam now that TO is there. :rolleyes:

Hoosier Red
03-09-2009, 11:16 AM
This is going to be a disaster.
Two things TO needs(and has never had) to be an effective WR.

A strong QB to tell him to shut his mouth, he'll get the ball when he gets open and the QB trusts him not to drop it.

A strong coach to back up said QB.

That's two things TO will most certainly not have in Buffalo.

blumj
03-09-2009, 12:26 PM
Yeah, but the Bills don't seem to have much to lose. They already have a head coach they might just as well set up to fire anyway. Maybe a little more circus would help sell tickets or advertising or something.