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Chip R
03-13-2009, 03:41 PM
http://music.yahoo.com/read/news/61985920

westofyou
03-13-2009, 03:48 PM
Jeff Tweedy kicks all their butts

Caveat Emperor
03-13-2009, 03:49 PM
There.

Now this thread is perfect. :D

919191
03-13-2009, 03:52 PM
Bummer there's no "neither" option.

The Baumer
03-13-2009, 04:11 PM
Kanye and Cyrus most likely wanted to meet (i.e. use) Radiohead so that they could make a news item out of it and say "Hey, we have artistic integrity too! We are friends with Radiohead". Thom Yorke seems like a smart enough fellow to know how the image show works and I'm guessing he decided he'd rather not be involved.

RichRed
03-13-2009, 04:19 PM
Kanye and Cyrus most likely wanted to meet (i.e. use) Radiohead so that they could make a news item out of it and say "Hey, we have artistic integrity too! We are friends with Radiohead". Thom Yorke seems like a smart enough fellow to know how the image show works and I'm guessing he decided he'd rather not be involved.

Yep, I hear Britney Spears is a huge fan of The National.

Highlifeman21
03-13-2009, 04:45 PM
Miley Cyrus & Radiohead both suck.

MrCinatit
03-13-2009, 04:52 PM
Kinda like deciding if Stephen Hawking is smarter than Ashton Kutcher.

marcshoe
03-13-2009, 04:53 PM
Miley Cyrus & Radiohead both suck.

Not to mention Kanye West.

(I have now officially turned into a grouchy old man.)

dougdirt
03-13-2009, 05:59 PM
Kanye and Cyrus most likely wanted to meet (i.e. use) Radiohead so that they could make a news item out of it and say "Hey, we have artistic integrity too! We are friends with Radiohead". Thom Yorke seems like a smart enough fellow to know how the image show works and I'm guessing he decided he'd rather not be involved.

Kanye West is a musical genius. Radiohead is pretty freaking good themselves. Cyrus, not so much. I doubt Kanye West cares much about making a news item out of meeting with Radiohead.

While I agree that maybe MC will learn that she might not be entitled to everything she wants, I am a little curious as to what 'we don't do that kind of thing' means. What kind of thing? Meeting fans of your music?

smith288
03-13-2009, 09:33 PM
What's better? Crap, Puke or rotten guts?

nate
03-13-2009, 10:12 PM
What's better? Crap, Puke or rotten guts?

Rotten guts.

Duh.

:cool:

Ltlabner
03-14-2009, 09:21 AM
Not to mention Kanye West.

(I have now officially turned into a grouchy old man.)

http://smg.photobucket.com/albums/v319/tankexmortis/Smileys/th_Silly_avatar_by_Dicx.gif

GoReds33
03-14-2009, 11:06 AM
I'm a youngster, so I have to go with Miley Cyrus.

redsfanmia
03-14-2009, 02:31 PM
Kanye West is a musical genius. Radiohead is pretty freaking good themselves. Cyrus, not so much. I doubt Kanye West cares much about making a news item out of meeting with Radiohead.

While I agree that maybe MC will learn that she might not be entitled to everything she wants, I am a little curious as to what 'we don't do that kind of thing' means. What kind of thing? Meeting fans of your music?

Calling Kanye West a "musical genius" is kind of a stretch don't you think? Radiohead rocks but there best work was 10+ years ago.

TeamSelig
03-14-2009, 05:58 PM
Nah, Kanye is a star.

I'd bet more than 80% of people under 20 probably don't know who Radiohead is.

Miley is annoying, but an absolute rock star for kids under 14. Hannah Montana is huge to little kids.

Red in Chicago
03-14-2009, 06:09 PM
Nah, Kanye is a star.

I'd bet more than 80% of people under 20 probably don't know who Radiohead is.

Miley is annoying, but an absolute rock star for kids under 14. Hannah Montana is huge to little kids.

I'm in the 40+ category and have no idea who or what Radiohead is. Unfortunately, I've seen and heard Miley and would like to choke her.

As for Kanye, I like some of his music, but as a person, he needs to get over himself.

Can't we just get more cowbell ;)

cincinnati chili
03-14-2009, 11:53 PM
While I agree that maybe MC will learn that she might not be entitled to everything she wants, I am a little curious as to what 'we don't do that kind of thing' means. What kind of thing? Meeting fans of your music?

yeah, I agree. Radiohead is the artist I like most of the three, but they end up looking small IMO.

NorrisHopper30
03-15-2009, 01:28 AM
I'm 18 and I think anyone who thinks Radiohead isn't great needs to get their head checked. They are one of the best bands in the past decade, and probably one of if not the best current bands. Their new stuff and old stuff is phenomenal and unique. For anyone who thinks Radiohead used to be good, but is bad now - have a listen to "In Rainbows".

Kanye is good as well, and Miley Cyrus sucks.

919191
03-15-2009, 08:06 AM
This thread is clearly intended for those considerably younger than me. :cry:

smith288
03-15-2009, 10:31 AM
Anyone hear Kanye during American Idol? I think I can make better sounds when on the toilet.

They had to add the computer effect to hide his horrible singing. He couldnt even rap on key and thats pretty hard to do.

cincinnati chili
03-15-2009, 11:33 AM
yeah, I agree. Radiohead is the artist I like most of the three, but they end up looking small IMO.

Radiohead has been around a while. I'm almost 37, and had the opportunity to interview them for my college newspaper. So that's been at least 15 years.

We decided not to interview them, and built that week's Arts section around a
Simon LeBon interview (Ordinary World comeback, etc) instead.

vaticanplum
03-15-2009, 04:55 PM
Radiohead has been around a while. I'm almost 37, and had the opportunity to interview them for my college newspaper. So that's been at least 15 years.

We decided not to interview them, and built that week's Arts section around a
Simon LeBon interview (Ordinary World comeback, etc) instead.

That is incredible. Wow.

Radiohead as a band has been in existence for something like 22+ years. Their first single was out in 92 with the album following in 93. I've been listening to them for over half my life at this point.

I don't quite get all the hate for Radiohead that seems to be prevalent now, I have to say. Whether you like their stuff or not, there's no objectively denying the influence they've had in numerous areas -- musically (sonically, instrumentally, lyrically), politically, and as a force in the music industry. I'm willing to be there's not a band over the last 15 years that is more frequently cited as an influence by other musicians. I am not a fan of U2, in fact I rather abhor everything they stand for and most of their music, but I'd never try to deny what they mean to music, and most other people don't seem to either.

NorrisHopper30
03-15-2009, 06:42 PM
That is incredible. Wow.

Radiohead as a band has been in existence for something like 22+ years. Their first single was out in 92 with the album following in 93. I've been listening to them for over half my life at this point.

I don't quite get all the hate for Radiohead that seems to be prevalent now, I have to say. Whether you like their stuff or not, there's no objectively denying the influence they've had in numerous areas -- musically (sonically, instrumentally, lyrically), politically, and as a force in the music industry. I'm willing to be there's not a band over the last 15 years that is more frequently cited as an influence by other musicians. I am not a fan of U2, in fact I rather abhor everything they stand for and most of their music, but I'd never try to deny what they mean to music, and most other people don't seem to either.

Completely agreed, I don't see how anyone can say that they dislike Radiohead. You have to respect their music.

The Baumer
03-15-2009, 06:45 PM
I can see someone who dislikes most modern music saying they don't like Radiohead or respect them or that they are stinky rotten guts. So it isn't impossible.

Unassisted
03-15-2009, 08:26 PM
Even though she's had fewer of them, I'll bet Miley has sold more CDs than Radiohead. In fact, in the last 2 years, she has sold more CDs than probably any band you can think of.

Even if Radiohead won't take a meeting with her, I bet that any record label would.

TheBigLebowski
03-15-2009, 08:58 PM
Radiohead is one of the best bands around. It aggravates me to even see them mentioned in a thread with freaking Miley Cyrus and Kanye West. What the heck is this world coming to....

Only Radiohead album that is less than stellar is Pablo Honey, even though I love the name of the album (yes, I'm a Jerky Boys fan). In Rainbows is a wonderful piece of work that should appeal to almost anyone that listens to it.

TheBigLebowski
03-15-2009, 08:58 PM
Jeff Tweedy kicks all their butts

Won't argue with that. I listen to a Wilco CD every day. Jay Farrar is a ponce.

marcshoe
03-15-2009, 09:07 PM
Sorry, but I've tried hard to like Radiohead for years and I find them unlistenable, no matter their critical reputation. Since I've known I am supposed to like them, I've given them chance after chance to no avail.

Wilco does have a place on my mp3 player, though.

Caveat Emperor
03-15-2009, 10:24 PM
I don't quite get all the hate for Radiohead that seems to be prevalent now, I have to say. Whether you like their stuff or not, there's no objectively denying the influence they've had in numerous areas -- musically (sonically, instrumentally, lyrically), politically, and as a force in the music industry. I'm willing to be there's not a band over the last 15 years that is more frequently cited as an influence by other musicians. I am not a fan of U2, in fact I rather abhor everything they stand for and most of their music, but I'd never try to deny what they mean to music, and most other people don't seem to either.

I don't think you'll find any musical act that isn't hated on by some segment of the population.

In fact, the more popular or "important" (for lack of a better word) an act is, the more vocal the hate will be from that segment.

kaldaniels
03-15-2009, 11:14 PM
Completely agreed, I don't see how anyone can say that they dislike Radiohead. You have to respect their music.

I'm a Radiohead fan. But I completely understand when you toss Kid A (which I like) in and it is not to someone else's liking.

Yachtzee
03-15-2009, 11:18 PM
Even though she's had fewer of them, I'll bet Miley has sold more CDs than Radiohead. In fact, in the last 2 years, she has sold more CDs than probably any band you can think of.

Even if Radiohead won't take a meeting with her, I bet that any record label would.

Wait and see in a few years. Having the Disney marketing machine behind you can help you move a lot of product in a short period of time. However, it will be interesting to see if she can survive on her own talent once she gets too old and the Mouse moves on to the next young teen sensation.

I can understand why Tom Yorke and Radiohead don't want to meet Miley Cyrus and Kanye West backstage at the Grammys. Not that I've been to the Grammys, but I've been in situations where people come up to you at an event trying to curry favor or play the "I'm an admirer" game. You get the feeling they aren't sincere. If someone was really interested in meeting you, why wait for a "photo op" moment to do it?

Unassisted
03-15-2009, 11:38 PM
Wait and see in a few years. Having the Disney marketing machine behind you can help you move a lot of product in a short period of time.
You're partly right. Her ranking as a seller of CDs also benefits from the fact that adults have drastically cut back their CD purchases in favor of digital downloads, paid and free. The kids' market is the only one that can be depended on to buy CDs.

dougdirt
03-16-2009, 01:52 AM
Calling Kanye West a "musical genius" is kind of a stretch don't you think? Radiohead rocks but there best work was 10+ years ago.

I don't think its a stretch. His rap isn't anything special. The tracks he puts together though are on the musical genius level.


Anyone hear Kanye during American Idol? I think I can make better sounds when on the toilet.

They had to add the computer effect to hide his horrible singing. He couldnt even rap on key and thats pretty hard to do.

His rapping isn't anything special, but like I noted above, what he does for the music on songs is something quite special.

Caveat Emperor
03-16-2009, 02:12 AM
I can understand why Tom Yorke and Radiohead don't want to meet Miley Cyrus and Kanye West backstage at the Grammys. Not that I've been to the Grammys, but I've been in situations where people come up to you at an event trying to curry favor or play the "I'm an admirer" game. You get the feeling they aren't sincere. If someone was really interested in meeting you, why wait for a "photo op" moment to do it?

Really, though, how many times are Miley Cyrus, a 16 year old teeny-bopper act, and Radiohead going to cross paths other than at an award show?

bucksfan2
03-16-2009, 08:13 AM
Radiohead is a name band based upon name only. If you asked a general poll to name 5 songs by Radiohead I would be willing to bet about 80% of the general population would draw a blank. They really aren't played on the mainstream radio anymore. They have a good following and have made enough money to tell Miley or Kayne to shove it.

However, if I were to go out and buy a Cd from one of the 3 it would be Kayne. Both Kayne and Miley are much more popular in the general public. However Radiohead probably just doesn't care. Most people over 18 really don't like Miley all that much and her speaking out against Radiohead is good publicity for the band.

vaticanplum
03-16-2009, 05:56 PM
I can understand why Tom Yorke and Radiohead don't want to meet Miley Cyrus and Kanye West backstage at the Grammys. Not that I've been to the Grammys, but I've been in situations where people come up to you at an event trying to curry favor or play the "I'm an admirer" game. You get the feeling they aren't sincere. If someone was really interested in meeting you, why wait for a "photo op" moment to do it?

I have no doubt that "snubs", intentional or not, happen backstage at these events right and left. The fact that we know about it at all says a lot more about Miley Cyrus than it does about Radiohead. (this is a completely biased comment, I admit. I did not approve of Miley Cyrus's oscar dress. she looked like one of those fake glittery white Christmas trees that rotate in the front windows of old people's split-level homes. This is an offense difficult to overcome with me. Most people never get to go to the Oscars, so if you have the chance and you wear something that makes you look like faux flora, you should be banned from famous people.)


You're partly right. Her ranking as a seller of CDs also benefits from the fact that adults have drastically cut back their CD purchases in favor of digital downloads, paid and free. The kids' market is the only one that can be depended on to buy CDs.

Not to mention the fact that sales of Radiohead's last album, In Rainbows -- one of their most successful -- have never really been tracked. The album was released online as a "pay what you want" release and is rumored to have "sold" 1.2 million copies in its first day alone, but no one really knows for sure, and obviously the actual sales dollars figures have never been released. The album sold far more "copies" online than it did when it was ultimately released as a CD. They've sold at least 30 million albums in their career, but that's probably a very safe figure.

Ravenlord
03-16-2009, 11:54 PM
C. Savatage. listen to their music '91 (Streets: A Rock Opera) through their final album in '03 (Poets and Madmetn) (and if you like TSO, they are Savtage-lite in musical and possibly lyrical senses); are far better than Radiohead could dream of being. "Creep" is the only Radiohead song that doesn't bore me to tears. Miley Cyrus has some potential, but i really doubt she'll ever come close to using it.

Megadeth after "Rust in Peace...Polaris" is also brilliant.

oh yeah, and then there is those that Paul Simon and Merle Haggard guys...