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edabbs44
03-29-2009, 04:29 PM
Drafting in 30 min...have the 5 pick. Trying to decide btw Sizemore, Braun and Cabrera. Thoughts?

Dom Heffner
03-29-2009, 04:37 PM
Cabrera- the dual eligibility allows more flexibility later in the draft.

redsfandan
03-29-2009, 04:47 PM
Depends on your league setup. IF you start more than 3 outfielders than you may want to take one of them instead. If you only start 3 outfielders you can't really go wrong with any of them but Dom has a valid point. Since he can play both 1st and 3rd Cabrera allows you to wait an extra round or two on another corner infielder to see if one will drop.

*BaseClogger*
03-29-2009, 06:09 PM
I have been taking Sizemore with the fifth pick because I love those power/speed combos...

edabbs44
03-29-2009, 06:30 PM
cannot believe that Pujols fell to me. :) :) :)

Dom Heffner
03-29-2009, 09:18 PM
In regards to Pujols: How is it that people let a guy that slugs .600 with an OBP of .450 fall? The guy is the perfect hitter, and people take Jose Reyes ahead of him.

If you are in a league where Jose Reyes is more valuable than Albert Pujols, you should drop out now and get a real scoring system.

I'm convinced that 5x5 leagues are the ruin of mankind.

I had one of my points league teams ask me the other day, "Can we give more points for stolen base specialists like Michael Bourne and Willy Taveras?" Ugh.

westofyou
03-29-2009, 09:35 PM
I'm convinced that 5x5 leagues are the ruin of mankind.It was created when EBH were in decline and SB up. We do Rate stats in my league... and I drafted Albert, second after Hanley.

Don't be surprised if in 5 years the 5x5 seem a tad more relevant than current times. Ebb and flow, ebb and flow.

Dom Heffner
03-29-2009, 09:44 PM
IF you start more than 3 outfielders than you may want to take one of them instead. If you only start 3 outfielders you can't really go wrong with any of them

Moot point now, but third base is so thin this year that I like Miggy anyway. Grady is one of my favorite players, but I passed on him to take Cabrera at 7. I could name 30 outfielders I wouldn't mind having. There are three or four third baseman, if that, and one doesn't even play there anymore (Cabrera). Unless you believe Baseball Prospectus' projection for Edwin, then maybe there's 5 or 6.

The idiot behind me took Rollins with Sizemore still on the board, and then the guy who had Sizemore grabbed Utley on the way back.

I could have smacked that dude.


Don't be surprised if in 5 years the 5x5 seem a tad more relevant than current times. Ebb and flow, ebb and flow.

I guess that could happen, but with these stadiums, and pitching being at a premium, I can't imagine runs being that scarce. Then again, for about a week, I believed the hype of Howie Kendrick winning a batting title at some point, so what do I know. For a week- and then I saw that walk and K rate and then I realized that guys days are numbered in this league.

Anyhoo- you could be right, I hope you aren't. 1980s Cardinals baseball is not something I want to relive.


and I drafted Albert, second after Hanley.

I see why Hanley goes that high, but in our league Pujols is worth 150 points more than most hitters. It varies from league to league, but geesh, to hit 30 plus home runs and strike out under 60 times a year with 100 walks. Oh lordy, that man can hit a baseball.

edabbs44
03-29-2009, 10:40 PM
My first five picks: Pujols, Lincecum, Johan, Bay and Ellsbury. Also got Dunn later as I needed power.

I'm kicking myself for not taking Manny over Lincecum. I thought that the top pitchers (Lincecum, Johan and CC) would have been gone before I got my 3rd pick. But when it was time, I couldn't pass up those first 3 picks. Crazy.

Dom Heffner
03-29-2009, 11:10 PM
Oh man- Lincecum should provide more value at that pick than Manny. While I think Manny does better than his BP projection, he isn't anywhere as far ahead of the others at his position than Tiny Tim is.

Of course, it all depends on your scoring system. Mine thankfully does not score wins, which makes him all the more valuable.

edabbs44
03-30-2009, 06:34 AM
Oh man- Lincecum should provide more value at that pick than Manny. While I think Manny does better than his BP projection, he isn't anywhere as far ahead of the others at his position than Tiny Tim is.

I wouldn't compare Manny to Lincecum. I would compare Manny to OFs taken later and look at Lincecum versus SPs taken later.

The next SP I took was Lester in the 9th, then Zambrano/Harang in the 14/15th rds. There was good pitching left later while hitting was snagged early.

But I'm not really complaining about my rotation.

redsfandan
03-30-2009, 01:08 PM
edabbs44, Can you post the rest of your team?

Dom Heffner
03-30-2009, 03:04 PM
I wouldn't compare Manny to Lincecum.

Manny Ramirez is not a second round pick. Lincecum is a borderline first rounder.

You got good value.

*BaseClogger*
03-30-2009, 03:23 PM
Lincecum is a borderline first rounder.

I wouldn't have taken Cy Young in the first round...

redsfandan
03-30-2009, 04:29 PM
I wouldn't have taken Cy Young in the first round...
x2

He took Linc in the 2nd and Johan Santana in the 3rd. I wouln't be that surprised by Linc being available in the 2nd but, Imo, Johan shouldn't fall into the 3rd. He later took Lester in the 9th, then Zambrano/Harang in the 14/15th rds so I'm a little curious about his hitters.

edabbs44
03-30-2009, 05:16 PM
edabbs44, Can you post the rest of your team?


Final Roster
Pos Name Team Pick
C Russell Martin LA R6 P8 Comment
C Ivan Rodriguez HOU R18 P8 Comment
1B Albert Pujols STL R1 P5 Comment
1B Billy Butler KC R19 P5 Comment
2B Robinson Cano NYY R8 P8 Comment
2B Clint Barmes COL R27 P5 Comment
SS Michael Young TEX R7 P5 Comment
SS Orlando Cabrera OAK R16 P8 Comment
3B Adrian Beltre SEA R13 P5 Comment
3B Josh Fields CHW R28 P8 Comment
OF Jason Bay BOS R4 P8 Comment
OF Jacoby Ellsbury BOS R5 P5 Comment
OF Adam Dunn WAS R10 P8 Comment
OF Johnny Damon NYY R11 P5 Comment
OF Daniel Murphy NYM R21 P5 Comment
OF Juan Rivera ANA R23 P5 Comment
OF J.D. Drew BOS R26 P8 Comment
DH Gary Sheffield DET R24 P8 Comment
SP Tim Lincecum SF R2 P8 Comment
SP Johan Santana NYM R3 P5 Comment
SP Jon Lester BOS R9 P5 Comment
SP Carlos Zambrano CHC R14 P8 Comment
SP Aaron Harang CIN R15 P5 Comment
SP Oliver Perez NYM R20 P8 Comment
SP Bronson Arroyo CIN R25 P5 Comment
SP Glen Perkins MIN R29 P5 Comment
RP Kerry Wood CLE R12 P8 Comment
RP Kevin Gregg CHC R17 P5 Comment
RP Trevor Hoffman MIL R22 P8 Comment
RP Jared Burton CIN R30 P8 Comment

edabbs44
03-30-2009, 05:19 PM
Only downside of this league is that there are no trades allowed. So my position of strength (pitching) cannot be dealt for power, which is something I could use a little more of.

I thought Dunn in the 10th was good value for me since I had built up some good BA guys. i can take the hit from Dunn's BA and enjoy the power numbers.

League starts 2 catchers.

Stephenk29
04-13-2009, 07:15 PM
no trades allowed? What kind of league is that?

edabbs44
04-14-2009, 10:31 PM
no trades allowed? What kind of league is that?

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