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OnBaseMachine
03-31-2009, 12:12 PM
Taveras CF
Dickerson LF
Votto 1B
Phillips 2B
Bruce RF
Hernandez C
Encarnacion 3B
Janish SS
Owings P

Matt700wlw
03-31-2009, 02:07 PM
That's probably the opening day lineup except for possibly SS....and pitcher, obviously.

BRM
03-31-2009, 02:10 PM
That's probably the opening day lineup except for SS....and pitcher, obviously.

If either Hairston or Gonzalez plays SS, they will most likely bat 2nd.

OnBaseMachine
03-31-2009, 02:25 PM
Owings threw a scoreless first inning.

Bottom 1 against Joba Chamberlain:

Taveras made an out, Dickerson doubled, Votto walked, Phillips and Bruce both made outs.

0-0 after 1.

OnBaseMachine
03-31-2009, 02:31 PM
Owings throws a 1-2-3 second inning with 2 K's.

Matt700wlw
03-31-2009, 02:35 PM
On Owings days he could bat further up in the lineup if Dusty was feeling "daring"

MikeS21
03-31-2009, 02:38 PM
Wow! Owings really is looking sharp this spring. Makes it hard to temper excitement, knowing that none of this counts until next week.

OnBaseMachine
03-31-2009, 02:51 PM
Top 3rd:

Berroa singled, was then picked off first base by Ramon Hernandez. Pena made an out. Gardner singled but was caught stealing by Hernandez.

Owings: 3 IP, 3 H, 0 R, 1 BB, 2 K

No score after 2 1/2.

*BaseClogger*
03-31-2009, 03:05 PM
So far I like what I have seen/read about Hernandez behind the plate...

OnBaseMachine
03-31-2009, 03:16 PM
Owings walked Swisher to begin the fourth, then rebounded to strikeout Teixeira and Posada. Nady reached on an error by Bruce which ended up leading to three unearned runs. 3-0 Yankees after 3 1/2.

Owings: 4 IP, 5 H, 0 ER, 2 BB, 4 K

Doc. Scott
03-31-2009, 03:17 PM
Lots of baserunners allowed by Owings for the second straight outing.

OnBaseMachine
03-31-2009, 03:20 PM
Lots of baserunners allowed by Owings for the second straight outing.

To be fair, it should only be five baserunners through four innings. The error extended the inning and the next two batters got hits.

BRM
03-31-2009, 03:20 PM
Lots of baserunners allowed by Owings for the second straight outing.

Debbie Downer.

OnBaseMachine
03-31-2009, 03:22 PM
Bottom 4:

Bruce singled, Hernandez GIDP, and EdE made the final out.

OnBaseMachine
03-31-2009, 03:26 PM
Owings throws a 1-2-3 5th inning.

5 IP, 5 H, 0 ER, 2 BB, 5 K

3-0 Yankees after 4 1/2.

remdog
03-31-2009, 03:34 PM
Debbie Downer.

I'm thinking more like Micah Maddness. :)

I don't know about what happened after the error but, so far, that's a nice performance against a good lineup.

Is there anyone out there that doesn't think the # 5 slot will be much improved this year?

Rem

remdog
03-31-2009, 03:36 PM
What Hernandez has done defensively in this game is also encouraging.

Rem

OnBaseMachine
03-31-2009, 03:38 PM
From Fay's blog:

Owings gave up three runs in the fourth. All were unearned as thje result of Jay Bruce's error. He dropped a popup. It was Brandon Phillips' ball. Bruce came all the way in to the infield first on the play. The other day Phillips went dep into right to takea ball that Bruce should caught. They got to get that stuffed worked out.

http://news.cincinnati.com/apps/pbcs.dll/section?category=blog07&plckController=Blog&plckScript=blogScript&plckElementId=blogDest&plckBlogPage=BlogViewPost&plckPostId=Blog%3ae57bcc87-152a-4f72-96fb-cc08b1f396efPost%3a8d0e5a17-0abb-4e22-901f-299eaa6d1fe4&sid=sitelife.cincinnati.com

Actually, the play that Fay is referring to from the other day was Willy Taveras' ball. That's the game that was on TV. Phillips ran halfway into CF and and Taveras pulled up the and ball ended up dropping. I can't really blame them too much during ST because most of the time the wind is playing tricks with the ball.

HeatherC1212
03-31-2009, 03:39 PM
That's not a bad line for Micah against a tough Yankee lineup. Too bad about the error but he's still pitching quite well. :)

BRM
03-31-2009, 03:41 PM
I don't know about what happened after the error but, so far, that's a nice performance against a good lineup.

Is there anyone out there that doesn't think the # 5 slot will be much improved this year?

Rem

I think it will definitely be much improved. That assumes Owings and/or Bailey stay relatively healthy this year of course.

Another nice outing for Owings today.

Doc. Scott
03-31-2009, 03:45 PM
Debbie Downer.

Well, it is the truth, is it not?

He doesn't have a long history of allowing tons of baserunners, I don't believe, so I wasn't trying to over-emphasize it. He has earned the #5 job at least for now.

Matt700wlw
03-31-2009, 03:46 PM
Dusty tossed!!

BRM
03-31-2009, 03:47 PM
Well, it is the truth, is it not?

He doesn't have a long history of allowing tons of baserunners, I don't believe, so I wasn't trying to over-emphasize it. He has earned the #5 job at least for now.

I was just messing with you, Doc. At the time you posted that he had allowed more baserunners than what I'd like to see. Although an error did lead to a couple of extra runners.

George Anderson
03-31-2009, 03:47 PM
Dusty tossed!!

In a ST game??

What happened??

BRM
03-31-2009, 03:48 PM
Getting tossed in a spring training game. That's classic!

Matt700wlw
03-31-2009, 03:49 PM
Not sure exactly what happened...but it's funny :)

HeatherC1212
03-31-2009, 03:49 PM
What the heck happened to get Dusty tossed in a ST game?! :eek:

Doc. Scott
03-31-2009, 03:49 PM
A Yankees lineup minus A-Rod, Jeter, Damon, Matsui and Cano? That's five of nine starters not in there.

It's not like it's something out of AAA, but the lineup NY ran out there today is about average for a NL team these days.

Just putting it in perspective.

Doc. Scott
03-31-2009, 03:50 PM
I was just messing with you, Doc. At the time you posted that he had allowed more baserunners than what I'd like to see. Although an error did lead to a couple of extra runners.

True, but Ramon Hernandez also erased two of his baserunners with a pickoff and a caught-stealing; plus, Nick Masset did a great job going sac fly-DP grounder to keep Owings' ERA down. It's not like the rest of the crew was working against him the entire time.

mbgrayson
03-31-2009, 03:53 PM
What the heck happened to get Dusty tossed in a ST game?! :eek:

Managers also need to practice their argument techniques in spring... ;)

lollipopcurve
03-31-2009, 03:54 PM
All were unearned as thje result of Jay Bruce's error. He dropped a popup. It was Brandon Phillips' ball. Bruce came all the way in to the infield first on the play. The other day Phillips went dep into right to takea ball that Bruce should caught. They got to get that stuffed worked out.

For me, these are the most annoying of fielding mistakes. If I'm Baker, I'm all over them for this kind of stuff. At the same time, if they need to spend some time working on it, they should. Having great range, like Phillips does, is good, but the downside is he flies into areas other guys can patrol more easily. They need to sort this out.

NJReds
03-31-2009, 03:54 PM
What the heck happened to get Dusty tossed in a ST game?! :eek:

He had an early tee time?

HeatherC1212
03-31-2009, 04:02 PM
He had an early tee time?

Maybe, LOL :laugh:

OnBaseMachine
03-31-2009, 04:09 PM
The Reds score two runs in the sixth inning. Votto and Phillips walked and Bruce and Hernandez each singled in a run. Bruce is 2-for-3.

4-2 Yankees after 6.

penantboundreds
03-31-2009, 04:28 PM
I'm really confused on how a manager gets tossed during a ST game. I can't fathom how that happens, I really can't. I'm not mad that it happened or anything just would like to see it, I wonder if someone finds a clip or something if they could post it.

Thanks

OnBaseMachine
03-31-2009, 05:11 PM
The Reds lost 6-3.

Cordero threw a 1-2-3 9th inning with 2 K's. Good to see.

BRM
03-31-2009, 05:16 PM
Cordero threw a 1-2-3 9th inning with 2 K's. Good to see.

That may be the best news of the day.

HeatherC1212
03-31-2009, 05:28 PM
The Reds lost 6-3.

Cordero threw a 1-2-3 9th inning with 2 K's. Good to see.

Very good news! :thumbup:

Here's some info about Dusty being tossed from the game from Fay's blog (http://news.cincinnati.com/apps/pbcs.dll/section?category=blog07&plckController=Blog&plckScript=blogScript&plckElementId=blogDest&plckBlogPage=BlogViewPost&plckPostId=Blog%3ae57bcc87-152a-4f72-96fb-cc08b1f396efPost%3a8d0e5a17-0abb-4e22-901f-299eaa6d1fe4&sid=sitelife.cincinnati.com):


Baker was ejected for the first time ever from a spring game.

Chris Dickerson asked the home plate umpire where a pitch was. The umpire wouldn't answer Dickerson, who had been rung up on a called Strike 3 in his last at-bat. Baker came out. "I got upset," Baker said.

Baker spent the rest of inning in the dugout.

"I told him I ain't leaving," Baker said. "It's a long walk. I didn't want to hold up the game."

durl
03-31-2009, 05:54 PM
I understand that players don't need to insult umpires but is it really wrong to ask where a pitch was in the strike zone? Seems a bit inflexible to me.

osuceltic
03-31-2009, 05:57 PM
Very good news! :thumbup:

Here's some info about Dusty being tossed from the game from Fay's blog (http://news.cincinnati.com/apps/pbcs.dll/section?category=blog07&plckController=Blog&plckScript=blogScript&plckElementId=blogDest&plckBlogPage=BlogViewPost&plckPostId=Blog%3ae57bcc87-152a-4f72-96fb-cc08b1f396efPost%3a8d0e5a17-0abb-4e22-901f-299eaa6d1fe4&sid=sitelife.cincinnati.com):

Stuff like that is why players like playing for Dusty.

Some complain about him always referencing his playing experiences, but he does know what makes players tick.

George Anderson
04-01-2009, 02:08 AM
I understand that players don't need to insult umpires but is it really wrong to ask where a pitch was in the strike zone? Seems a bit inflexible to me.

If someone asks that question to me I tell them it was in the strike zone.

It depends how they ask. 99% of the time the player is wanting to create a conflict and will ask in a rude or sarcastic tone. If they do that then they won't get a respectful response.