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Raisor
04-06-2009, 05:32 PM
Coco, beware.

WVRedsFan
04-06-2009, 05:32 PM
Now THAT was a pickoff throw!

Great play by Votto, too.

Johnny Footstool
04-06-2009, 05:32 PM
Hernandez made that happen. He popped up into his throwing stance prior to the windup. Cordero saw it and instantly fired over to 1st.

WVRedsFan
04-06-2009, 05:33 PM
Hernandez made that happen. He popped up into his throwing stance prior to the windup. Cordero saw it and instantly fired over to 1st.

Oh yeah, I forgot. We've got an honest to god MLB catcher now...

TheBurn
04-06-2009, 05:33 PM
Hernandez made that happen. He popped up into his throwing stance prior to the windup. Cordero saw it and instantly fired over to 1st.
Good eye Johnny... :thumbup:

vaticanplum
04-06-2009, 05:34 PM
Now my heart is pumping. A sexy pick-off is the kind of thing I don't realize I miss for six months out of the year.

reds44
04-06-2009, 05:34 PM
Time to slay K-Rod

HeatherC1212
04-06-2009, 05:34 PM
Offense please! :D

And KRod better hope he has some control today because this ump hasn't given any pitchers any favors today and he can walk people if he's not careful. Granted this wouldn't bother me too much as a Reds fan but I'm just saying. ;)

WVRedsFan
04-06-2009, 05:35 PM
Time to slay K-Rod

Dunn, who?

Raisor
04-06-2009, 05:35 PM
Reds on pace to score 162 runs this season.

smith288
04-06-2009, 05:36 PM
Reds on pace to score 162 runs this season.
Steady.

Raisor
04-06-2009, 05:36 PM
Bruce would have been safe if he would have teleported.

membengal
04-06-2009, 05:37 PM
But only to give up 324!

WVRedsFan
04-06-2009, 05:37 PM
Reds on pace to score 162 runs this season.

...and work like the devil for every one of them.

Tom Servo
04-06-2009, 05:37 PM
Gotta go to my English class, unfortunatly. Hopefully when I come back the Reds will be ahead.
That was wishful thinking.

BCubb2003
04-06-2009, 05:37 PM
Reds on pace to score 162 runs this season.

But the run differential is pretty good.

Raisor
04-06-2009, 05:38 PM
But only to give up 324!

-162 run dif=less then 60 wins.

Puffy
04-06-2009, 05:38 PM
Now my heart is pumping. A sexy pick-off is the kind of thing I don't realize I miss for six months out of the year.

You don't know sexy until you see Raisor perform his naked pick off throw musical.

Its Raisor, naked, wheeling and "throwing" to first base set to Queen's "Don't Stop me Now"

Freakin brilliant.

mbgrayson
04-06-2009, 05:39 PM
Mets will be awful tough this year if they have lead after 7 innings. Putz and K-Rod are about the best 8th/9th combo around.

M2
04-06-2009, 05:39 PM
-162 run dif=less then 60 wins.

I bet you've made up some mathematical computation to prove it too.

Raisor
04-06-2009, 05:39 PM
You don't know sexy until you see Raisor perform his naked pick off throw musical.

Its Raisor, naked, wheeling and "throwing" to first base set to Queen's "Don't Stop me Now"

Freakin brilliant.

...and people wonder why I'm in therapy.

Cyclone792
04-06-2009, 05:40 PM
Today is simply a microcosm of what to expect from the Reds. Poor offense contributing heavily to another loss. If you can't get on base, move runners along the bases and score runs, you can't win ballgames.

The Lost Decade welcomes you all back with open arms. I hope none of you thought you were going to escape the wrath that easily.

smith288
04-06-2009, 05:40 PM
You don't know sexy until you see Raisor perform his naked pick off throw musical.

Its Raisor, naked, wheeling and "throwing" to first base set to Queen's "Don't Stop me Now"

Freakin brilliant.
aaaaaack.... uhaaaaaaaack.... *gag*

Raisor
04-06-2009, 05:40 PM
I bet you've made up some mathematical computation to prove it too.

I approve of this post and wish to subscribe to your newsletter.

vaticanplum
04-06-2009, 05:40 PM
You don't know sexy until you see Raisor perform his naked pick off throw musical.

Its Raisor, naked, wheeling and "throwing" to first base set to Queen's "Don't Stop me Now"

Freakin brilliant.

"Naked Pick Off Throw Musical" may be the name of my next band. Either that or "Putz K-Rod".

Reds lose. They have a .000 winning percentage.

jojo
04-06-2009, 05:40 PM
Well that certainly was a different way to lose than we're used to seeing from the Reds.

Reds Fanatic
04-06-2009, 05:41 PM
This team with this offense is going to be on the wrong end of a lot of 2-1 type of games this year.

vaticanplum
04-06-2009, 05:41 PM
Well that certainly was a different way to lose than we're used to seeing from the Reds.

I fully expect the Reds to educate us on the many ways to lose this year.

KronoRed
04-06-2009, 05:41 PM
Should we boo?

:D

Unassisted
04-06-2009, 05:41 PM
That was a surprisingly long game, considering it included 5 innings of Harang's pitching.

RedFanAlways1966
04-06-2009, 05:41 PM
So much for 1st place. It was enjoyable being tied for 1st place since the 2008 World Series ended until now.

WVRedsFan
04-06-2009, 05:42 PM
Oh well, another loss. A different kind of loss, though. Great pitching and an anemic offense. The result is the same, but somehow less fun.

This may set low attendance records that haven't been seen since the 20's.

CTA513
04-06-2009, 05:42 PM
No run support and Harang is now 0-1

smith288
04-06-2009, 05:42 PM
Same crap, different year.

Im soooooo pumped....

HeatherC1212
04-06-2009, 05:42 PM
Bummer to lose on Opening Day but I didn't really expect a win anyway with Santana on the mound and crappy weather. :(

jojo
04-06-2009, 05:42 PM
This team with this offense is going to be on the wrong end of a lot of 2-1 type of games this year.

The pen isn't good enough to compensate for the offense (or lack thereof) IMHO.

Falls City Beer
04-06-2009, 05:42 PM
This team with this offense is going to be on the wrong end of a lot of 2-1 type of games this year.

I think you just saw what happens when a Cy Young winner goes up against someone who isn't anywhere close to being a Cy Young winner. We're likely still playing with Volquez on the mound.

Raisor
04-06-2009, 05:42 PM
Should we boo?

:D

boooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo!

Tom Servo
04-06-2009, 05:43 PM
Don't worry, soon we will have WILLY TAVERAS. :beerme:

membengal
04-06-2009, 05:44 PM
Don't worry, soon we will have WILLY TAVERAS. :beerme:

I am looking forward to that after today.

BRM
04-06-2009, 05:44 PM
I am looking forward to that after today.

Sad but true.

WVRedsFan
04-06-2009, 05:44 PM
Bummer to lose on Opening Day but I didn't really expect a win anyway with Santana on the mound and crappy weather. :(

The Mets could have run out 60+ year old Tom Seaver and had Rollie Fingers in the pen and still won.

Raisor
04-06-2009, 05:46 PM
The Mets could have run out 60+ year old Tom Seaver and had Rollie Fingers in the pen and still won.

I demand that David Weathers grow a Rollie Fingers style handlebar mustache.

Now.

reds44
04-06-2009, 05:46 PM
We won't be facing Johan every game, and we will probably have Dickerson and Taveras in the lineup Wednesday.

This certainly won't be the last game we score 1 run, but our offense wasn't as bad as it was today.

Falls City Beer
04-06-2009, 05:46 PM
Honestly, that Harang didn't get shellacked after that performance is a testament to the defense. If the offense gets shut down by the likes of Jeff Suppan and Aaron Sele or some other corpse, I'll get worried. But really, no shame in getting shut down by Santana.

reds44
04-06-2009, 05:48 PM
The infield defense was good, but the outfield defense was absolutely awful. I think Dickerson and Taveras will do a lot to fix that problem, though.

Falls City Beer
04-06-2009, 05:49 PM
The infield defense was good, but the outfield defense was absolutely awful. I think Dickerson and Taveras will do a lot to fix that problem, though.

Bruce and Hairston both had very nice plays today. McDonald was clearly the sore thumb.

Roy Tucker
04-06-2009, 05:50 PM
"Naked Pick Off Throw Musical" may be the name of my next band. Either that or "Putz K-Rod".

Reds lose. They have a .000 winning percentage.

At this rate, they'll go 0-162. That's not good.

Still a ways off from pitchforks and torches time though. I'll give them till tomorrow. Then its fire Baker/Jocketty/Castellini time.

:rolleyes:

bucksfan
04-06-2009, 05:51 PM
I don't think I'll ever comprehend the hand-wringing and doomsday comments about future failure that come out of one game.

reds44
04-06-2009, 05:51 PM
Bruce and Hairston both had very nice plays today. McDonald was clearly the sore thumb.
Bruce threw a guy out at the plate, but what did Hairston do?

Falls City Beer
04-06-2009, 05:52 PM
Bruce threw a guy out at the plate, but what did Hairston do?

I believe Hairston made a nice running catch deep in left, early in the game.

RedFanAlways1966
04-06-2009, 05:52 PM
I think you just saw what happens when a Cy Young winner goes up against someone who isn't anywhere close to being a Cy Young winner. We're likely still playing with Volquez on the mound.

What? Both Cy Santana and Harang allowed 1 earned run. Cy had 0.2 more IP.

Volquez does what? Gives up 1 ER in 5.2 IP like Cy?!?

Explain. Perhaps Volquez means Herrera (today's real goat) does not enter. Explain.

nate
04-06-2009, 05:54 PM
Honestly, that Harang didn't get shellacked after that performance is a testament to the defense.

Harang wasn't bad, he had many close calls that didn't go his way.

The defense was bad. Hairston, McDonald and EE all made bad plays.

LincolnparkRed
04-06-2009, 05:54 PM
Lost 3 of 4 Opening days 08,09 and 06. Got 07 and 05 so I thought we were on an even/odd year rotation
.

vaticanplum
04-06-2009, 05:55 PM
I don't think I'll ever comprehend the hand-wringing and doomsday comments about future failure that come out of one game.

Baseball fans are given to hyperbole. It's part of their charm. I firmly believe this to be rooted in stats-memorizing adolescent geekdom when everything is magnified times sixty eleven billion.

nate
04-06-2009, 05:55 PM
I believe Hairston made a nice running catch deep in left, early in the game.

He also totally misplayed a ball that fell in for a hit.

Falls City Beer
04-06-2009, 05:57 PM
What? Both Cy Santana and Harang allowed 1 earned run. Cy had 0.2 more IP.

Volquez does what? Gives up 1 ER in 5.2 IP like Cy?!?

Explain. Perhaps Volquez means Herrera (today's real goat) does not enter. Explain.

Poor pitching performances don't always show themselves in RA. Aaron's defense saved him today. But he walked more than he K'd, allowing 10 baserunners in 5 innings. And yeah, his mediocre showing opened the door for a guy who probably shouldn't be in the bigs, Herrera.

Of course it could have been worse, but I'm big fan of asking why it couldn't have been better. And clearly it could have. He made a lot of trouble for himself.

reds44
04-06-2009, 05:57 PM
Harang wasn't bad, he had many close calls that didn't go his way.

The defense was bad. Hairston, McDonald and EE all made bad plays.
EE didn't make a bad play.

The Baumer
04-06-2009, 05:58 PM
We may have lost but I still had a great time watching that lineup- Gonzalez, Hernandez, Hairston, Encarnacion and McDonald. Was it opening day or Christmas?

jojo
04-06-2009, 05:58 PM
I'm not sure how anyone could watch today and walk away with the impression that the defense kept the Reds from a blowout in this game.

Falls City Beer
04-06-2009, 05:59 PM
EE didn't make a bad play.

I don't recall that either.

vaticanplum
04-06-2009, 06:00 PM
FCB, you are starting to sound like Alberto Gonzales.

smith288
04-06-2009, 06:00 PM
We may have lost but I still had a great time watching that lineup- Gonzalez, Hernandez, Hairston, Encarnacion and McDonald. Was it opening day or Christmas?
I guess Santa had me on the naughty list. Nice lump of coal Santa (Santana)

Falls City Beer
04-06-2009, 06:00 PM
I'm not sure how anyone could watch today and walk away with the impression that the defense kept the Reds from a blowout in this game.

Ok, maybe it was more luck than defense. But it certainly wasn't anything active that Harang was doing.

durl
04-06-2009, 06:02 PM
It's a loss, but the pitching is a positive take-away for the game. The offense didn't show much but they were facing a very good pitcher.

nate
04-06-2009, 06:03 PM
I'm not sure how anyone could watch today and walk away with the impression that the defense kept the Reds from a blowout in this game.

Me either.

kaldaniels
04-06-2009, 06:04 PM
Ok, maybe it was more luck than defense. But it certainly wasn't anything active that Harang was doing.

I saw Harang battling like a pro in the 40 degree rainy weather. Sure it was a ugly 5 innings...but I never felt like things were falling apart for him, they just weren't going to plan. He got the job done, albeit with too many pitches.

jojo
04-06-2009, 06:07 PM
Ok, maybe it was more luck than defense. But it certainly wasn't anything active that Harang was doing.

Harang located pretty well at times and he had some pretty good movement early on.

But I agree with the assertion that he didn't have an "out pitch".

I'm not suggesting Harang pitched like an ace when arguing the defense wasn't exactly inspiring.

nate
04-06-2009, 06:07 PM
Poor pitching performances don't always show themselves in RA. Aaron's defense saved him today. But he walked more than he K'd, allowing 10 baserunners in 5 innings. And yeah, his mediocre showing opened the door for a guy who probably shouldn't be in the bigs, Herrera.

Of course it could have been worse, but I'm big fan of asking why it couldn't have been better. And clearly it could have. He made a lot of trouble for himself.

Serious question...did you watch the game? Harang had a number of borderline pitches that could've been called strikes. His movement was good, he seemed to be throwing easy and it seemed like he was throwing to the spots he wanted. He just didn't get a lot of calls.

The "improved" defense was not so improved today.

The Baumer
04-06-2009, 06:10 PM
I'm just bummed because Bruce and Votto are the only two hitters I really care for. I like Phillips but he flip flops between incredibly annoying and incredibly exciting- it all depends where the ball goes after he takes his wild, off balance hack. Still, all things considered, I enjoyed the game and don't mind seeing low scoring, pitching heavy ball games. We just need to win a few more than we lose.

CTA513
04-06-2009, 06:11 PM
Brandon Webb today: 4 Innings, 6 Hits, 6 Runs, 2 BB, 2 K - 2 HR

The Baumer
04-06-2009, 06:15 PM
Brandon Webb today: 4 Innings, 6 Hits, 6 Runs, 2 BB, 2 K - 2 HR

This makes me feel really good.

Falls City Beer
04-06-2009, 06:18 PM
Serious question...did you watch the game? Harang had a number of borderline pitches that could've been called strikes. His movement was good, he seemed to be throwing easy and it seemed like he was throwing to the spots he wanted. He just didn't get a lot of calls.

The "improved" defense was not so improved today.

Santana dealt with the same ump.

nate
04-06-2009, 06:32 PM
Santana dealt with the same ump.

I was talking about Harang. Santana is a better pitcher, made better pitches and was facing a team with pretty poor plate discipline. I'm not sure what your point has to do with mine: that, for today's game, Harang pitched decently while the defense was poor and the offense in a deep slumber after Mr. Santana served up some nice Chamomile laced with Remy Martin.

So, did you see the game?

mth123
04-06-2009, 06:36 PM
Santana dealt with the same ump.

And had 4 walks in less than 6 innings. He gave up fewer hits, but I'd wager that if he was facing Reyes, Wright, Delgado, Beltran, etc instead of the hacking Reds it may have been different.

membengal
04-06-2009, 06:42 PM
What mth said. Yes, fcb, he dealt with the same ump, and issued just as many free passes.

It wasn't an easy day to toe the rubber for a lot of reasons, the ump and the weather chief among them, and Harang gave the Reds a shot.

Falls City Beer
04-06-2009, 06:52 PM
And had 4 walks in less than 6 innings. He gave up fewer hits, but I'd wager that if he was facing Reyes, Wright, Delgado, Beltran, etc instead of the hacking Reds it may have been different.

The Reds may turn out to be a horrible hacking offense, but it really wasn't much on display today.

And I saw the last 2/3 of the game. Not the first three innings.

I'd say the main difference in today's game was Santana's ability to get a K where Harang simply couldn't.

Reds4Life
04-06-2009, 06:56 PM
Another year, another Reds opening day loss. Color me shocked.

CTA513
04-06-2009, 07:11 PM
Sabathia is also off to a bad start: 4.1 Innings, 8 Hits, 5 Runs, 4 BB, 0 K

He currently has the bases loaded with 1 out right now

_Sir_Charles_
04-06-2009, 07:41 PM
Shut my mouth...Weathers was sharp. A strange day indeed.

LOL. I know. I was thinking the same thing. Nice to see (or hear in my case) though. Same with Lincoln & Rhodes. Other than DRH's nerves, this has been a very well pitched game...on both sides.

_Sir_Charles_
04-06-2009, 07:45 PM
Good AB for CD.

he he

*audible groan from the peanut gallery*

The sad thing is that I didn't see it at first. :rolleyes:

George Anderson
04-06-2009, 10:44 PM
Santana dealt with the same ump.

I sat pretty close to the action and Harang was hosed on several pitches. I know a thing or two about umpiring and am usually always quick to defend umpires but the plate ump Tim Welke had a very bad game.

OnBaseMachine
04-06-2009, 10:55 PM
I'd say he was nothing short of awful. Bailed out by his defenders mostly.

HUH?!?

I was at the game today ... they barely hit the ball hard off Harang. The Mets had seven hits - two were infield singles, two were bloopers, and another was a routine flyball that Hairston just looked at and allowed it to drop. Harang had good stuff today, but like Santana, he struggled with control. Probably due to cold and rainy weather. Aaron Harang is back.

If you read some of the comments in here, you'd think Harang was awful or something. Dude is one of the most underrated pitchers in the game. Heck, he's underrated by his hometown fans.

OnBaseMachine
04-06-2009, 11:08 PM
Ok, maybe it was more luck than defense. But it certainly wasn't anything active that Harang was doing.

You and I definitely watched different games. Aaron Harang was FAR from be rocked. The guy allowed seven hits in 5 innings - two hits were infield single,s two were bloopers, and another was a routine flyball that Hairston just looked at. Only two of those hits were hard hit. Harang looked good today considering the circumstances. Did you see Santana? He also struggled with his control... probably due to the awful weather.

What in the world do you have against Harang? You act as if he's the worst pitcher in the game. Have you checked his stats over the last four years? He's one of the better pitchers in the league.

OnBaseMachine
04-06-2009, 11:10 PM
BTW, Darnell McDonald brings nothing to the table. He didn't impress me defensively and we already know about his offense. And Hairston was pretty bad too.

George Anderson
04-06-2009, 11:13 PM
From what I'm hearing on the radio, this ump doesn't have that great of a K zone today. :bang:

Worse plate game I have seen in person at the MLB level in quite some time.

I would say Tim Welke squeezed Harang on a good 6 pitches.

jojo
04-06-2009, 11:17 PM
BTW, Darnell McDonald brings nothing to the table. He didn't impress me defensively and we already know about his offense. And Hairston was pretty bad too.

Hairston looked like a bumblebee randomly buzzing from flower to flower on a couple routes.... seriously I thought I was watching a Nasonex commercial.

WVPacman
04-07-2009, 01:03 AM
I know its early but I have to say what I seen today was'nt very impressive except for Harang.Yes they batted againist a all star pitcher but our offense has to be better than what I seen today.I thought our first and second batters in the lineup sucked.I thought those two guys are suppose to bat the ball on the ground instead of trying to hit it to kentucky?I did'nt see them try to bunt not one time today to try and keep the defense off balanced.

I found out today that Harriston can't play left field at all,and he looked lost all day out there.Our bullpen had a bad day as well exspecially the young kid lord he looked scared to death.I know its early but from what I seen today this little ball crap isn't going to work and we need a power guy in the line up for sure.Ah hopefully it will be a better day on wednesday!!

Matt700wlw
04-07-2009, 02:40 AM
Our bullpen had a bad day as well exspecially the young kid lord he looked scared to death.I know its early but from what I seen today this little ball crap isn't going to work and we need a power guy in the line up for sure.Ah hopefully it will be a better day on wednesday!!

Bullpen gave up 2 hits and one run....Danny Ray looked overwhelmed though

redsmetz
04-07-2009, 06:31 AM
Worse plate game I have seen in person at the MLB level in quite some time.

I would say Tim Welke squeezed Harang on a good 6 pitches.

I swear there was one AB where I said, "Is this a bizarro umpire"? It appeared every pitch was called opposite of what it seemed to have been. I would say your six pitches is accurate, although the crowd groaned and awful lot. I think he absolutely robbed Harrera on one too. And Votto's strike three pitch was up and in and was called a ball numerous times throughout the game. My son and I assumed it must have been Angel Hernandez behind the plate, it was that awful. Not to solely be a homer, he was rotten for both teams. And that affects the batters too because you have no idea what is going to be called.

redsmetz
04-07-2009, 06:33 AM
LOL. I know. I was thinking the same thing. Nice to see (or hear in my case) though. Same with Lincoln & Rhodes. Other than DRH's nerves, this has been a very well pitched game...on both sides.

Weathers walked off the field grinning. Probably thinking, "I showed those (insert appropriate word) on RZ I can still pitch."

nate
04-07-2009, 10:38 AM
I swear there was one AB where I said, "Is this a bizarro umpire"? It appeared every pitch was called opposite of what it seemed to have been. I would say your six pitches is accurate, although the crowd groaned and awful lot. I think he absolutely robbed Harrera on one too. And Votto's strike three pitch was up and in and was called a ball numerous times throughout the game. My son and I assumed it must have been Angel Hernandez behind the plate, it was that awful. Not to solely be a homer, he was rotten for both teams. And that affects the batters too because you have no idea what is going to be called.

Yep.

George Anderson
04-07-2009, 11:19 AM
I swear there was one AB where I said, "Is this a bizarro umpire"? It appeared every pitch was called opposite of what it seemed to have been. I would say your six pitches is accurate, although the crowd groaned and awful lot. I think he absolutely robbed Harrera on one too. And Votto's strike three pitch was up and in and was called a ball numerous times throughout the game. My son and I assumed it must have been Angel Hernandez behind the plate, it was that awful. Not to solely be a homer, he was rotten for both teams. And that affects the batters too because you have no idea what is going to be called.

I dont know if anyone noticed or if it was announced and I missed it but there were two different first base umps yesterday. The first couple innings a black guy was at first but then around the sixth inning a white guy was there. The box score had Angel Hernandez at first base but that he was not at first base the first six innings or so. Maybe I was the only one who noticed this but it was definitely the case.

_Sir_Charles_
04-07-2009, 12:18 PM
I swear there was one AB where I said, "Is this a bizarro umpire"? It appeared every pitch was called opposite of what it seemed to have been. I would say your six pitches is accurate, although the crowd groaned and awful lot. I think he absolutely robbed Harrera on one too. And Votto's strike three pitch was up and in and was called a ball numerous times throughout the game. My son and I assumed it must have been Angel Hernandez behind the plate, it was that awful. Not to solely be a homer, he was rotten for both teams. And that affects the batters too because you have no idea what is going to be called.

To be fair guys, he squeezed Johan pretty heavily too. I think, all in all, he called the game VERY consistantly. Tight, but consistant.

IowaRed
04-07-2009, 12:25 PM
I dont know if anyone noticed or if it was announced and I missed it but there were two different first base umps yesterday. The first couple innings a black guy was at first but then around the sixth inning a white guy was there. The box score had Angel Hernandez at first base but that he was not at first base the first six innings or so. Maybe I was the only one who noticed this but it was definitely the case.


At one point Hernandez had a black facemask type thing on so maybe he appeared to have darker skin. I don't remember seeing him later in the game so I'm guessing he just took it off

George Anderson
04-07-2009, 12:27 PM
To be fair guys, he squeezed Johan pretty heavily too. I think, all in all, he called the game VERY consistantly. Tight, but consistant.

I hafta disagree, I counted maybe two pitches he might have squeezed against the Mets.

Again, I am quick to defend umps but Welke had a very bad game.

Also I spend alot of time evaluating umpires at a lower level of course but Welke's body language on numerous occasions told me he knew he was struggling.

nate
04-07-2009, 12:30 PM
To be fair guys, he squeezed Johan pretty heavily too. I think, all in all, he called the game VERY consistantly. Tight, but consistant.

I don't think so. I think Santana was just more precise.

redsmetz
04-07-2009, 05:28 PM
To be fair guys, he squeezed Johan pretty heavily too. I think, all in all, he called the game VERY consistantly. Tight, but consistant.

I'm not sure if I stated otherwise, but I agree that it was a wild strike zone for both pitchers. I felt Harrang got the brunt of it, but there were inconsistencies on both pitchers.

_Sir_Charles_
04-09-2009, 10:10 AM
I don't think so. I think Santana was just more precise.


Santana's 4 walks in just 5 innings pitched say otherwise.

nate
04-09-2009, 12:00 PM
Santana's 4 walks in just 5 innings pitched say otherwise.

Not really. I'm pretty sure a higher percentage of Sanata's pitches went where he wanted them to than Harang's.