PDA

View Full Version : Opening Day 2009: Reds vs. Mets



Pages : [1] 2 3 4

reds44
04-06-2009, 05:58 AM
Aaron Harang (6-17, 4.78 ERA)
http://cincinnati.reds.mlb.com/images/players/action/ph_421685.jpg


There is no other way to put it -- this will be the most critical season of Aaron Harang's career. The belief among all concerned was that Harang's 2008 season was a fluke. After all, a dependable starter like Harang, who won 16 games each in 2006 and '07, doesn't normally just fall off the map and go 6-17. It will be on Harang's shoulders to prove that it was a just one bad year.

During the offseason, Harang dropped 25 pounds and worked on his endurance. His body, especially his legs, didn't respond well to a difficult task of having to pitch three times in eight days. During an 18-inning game on May 25, Harang had to pitch four innings of relief on short rest but still returned to make his next start without an extended break. In the final 18 starts following that bullpen outing, Harang went 4-11 with a 5.71 ERA and also missed a month with a sore right forearm. His ERA was 3.50 during his first 11 starts. On the first day of spring, Baker did not waver when he said that Harang would still be his ace and Opening Day starter. That was despite the emergence of Edinson Volquez, who won 17 games and became an All-Star.

This will be the fourth straight year that Harang gets the Opening Day assignment, which is the longest streak since Jose Rijo did it four times in a row from 1992-95.


vs.

Johan Santana (16-7, 2.53 ERA)
http://newyork.mets.mlb.com/images/players/action/ph_276371.jpg

Santana has a 1-0 record in four appearances (three starts) against the Reds. His lone victory came at Shea Stadium on May 10, 2008, in a game the Mets won, 12-6. He had a no-decision in his other start against them last July 17. Santana pitched merely four innings, his shortest workday in 34 starts, in Great American Ball Park. He surrendered 16 hits, three of them home runs, and eight runs in 10 innings. His 6.75 ERA against the Reds (17 1/3 innings) is higher than his ERA against any other opponent by nearly two runs.

Santana has started merely three Opening Day games, losing to the Blue Jays in Toronto in 2006, beating the Orioles in 2007 and beating the Marlins in Miami in his Mets debut last season. He allowed five baserunners and two runs in seven innings of what became a 7-2 Mets victory.

Santana's performances in his first games -- whether or not they were Opening Day games -- haven't been consistent with his other work. In the four seasons in which he has been a full-time starter, he has a 2-1 record and a 6.10 ERA in his season debuts. Santana pitched merely 20 2/3 innings in the four games. Each was staged in a dome or a park with a retractable roof -- two in the Metrodome in Minneapolis, and one each in Safeco Field in Seattle and Rogers Centre in Toronto.


Mets against Harang
http://i26.photobucket.com/albums/c146/G-FORCE7/Mets.jpg

Reds against Santana
http://i26.photobucket.com/albums/c146/G-FORCE7/Reds.jpg

GABP Dimensions:
http://i26.photobucket.com/albums/c146/G-FORCE7/GABP.jpg

Weather:
High: 40
Low: 29
60% chance of a wintry mix (rain showers in the morning, snow showers in the afternoon).

Reds
1. Jerry Hairston Jr. LF
2. Darnell McDonald CF
3. Joey Votto 1B
4. Brandon Phillips 2B
5. Jay Bruce RF
6. Edwin Encarnacion 3B
7. Ramon Hernandez C
8. Alex Gonzalez SS
9. Aaron Harang P

Mets
1. Jose Reyes SS
2. Daneil Murphy LF
3. David Wright 3B
4. Carlos Delgado 1B
5. Carlos Beltran CF
6. Ryan Church RF
7. Brian Schneider C
8. Luis Castillo 2B
9. Johan Santana P

Hoosier Red
04-06-2009, 12:01 PM
Thanks EdAbbs.


There is no other way to put it -- this will be the most critical season of Aaron Harang's career. The belief among all concerned was that Harang's 2008 season was a fluke. After all, a dependable starter like Harang, who won 16 games each in 2006 and '07, doesn't normally just fall off the map and go 6-17. It will be on Harang's shoulders to prove that it was a just one bad year.

Cyclone792
04-06-2009, 12:30 PM
As we move onto a new season, it's fun to look at the past. Here is a team shot of the 1909 Reds that took the field 100 years ago. This squad finished 77-76, good for 4th place in the National League:

http://img7.imageshack.us/img7/7658/1909cincinnatireds.jpg

Top Row, L-R: Billy Campbell (P), Ducky Pearce (C), Chick Autry (1B), Jack Rowan (P), Jean Dubuc (P), Dick Egan (2B), Rudy Hulswitt, Bob Ewing (P), Larry McClean (C), Tom Downey (SS), Art Fromme (P), unidentified, Ed Karger (P), Mike Mitchell (RF), Miller Huggins (2B/3B), Harry Gasnar (P).

Middle Row, L-R: Dode Paskert (OF), unidentified, Clark Griffith (Mgr.), Dick Hoblitzel (1B), unidentified, Mike Mowery (2B/3B), unidentified, Bob Bescher (LF).

Bottom Row, L-R: Rebel Oaks (CF), unidentified, Hans Lobert (3B), Frank Roth (C).

gm
04-06-2009, 12:37 PM
As we move onto a new season, it's fun to look at the past. Here is a team shot of the 1909 Reds that took the field 100 years ago. This squad finished 77-76, good for 4th place in the National League:

http://img7.imageshack.us/img7/7658/1909cincinnatireds.jpg

Top Row, L-R: Billy Campbell (P), Ducky Pearce (C), Chick Autry (1B), Jack Rowan (P), Jean Dubuc (P), Dick Egan (2B), Rudy Hulswitt, Bob Ewing (P), Larry McClean (C), Tom Downey (SS), Art Fromme (P), unidentified, Ed Karger (P), Mike Mitchell (RF), Miller Huggins (2B/3B), Harry Gasnar (P).

Middle Row, L-R: Dode Paskert (OF), unidentified, Clark Griffith (Mgr.), Dick Hoblitzel (1B), unidentified, Mike Mowery (2B/3B), unidentified, Bob Bescher (LF).

Bottom Row, L-R: Rebel Oaks (CF), unidentified, Hans Lobert (3B), Frank Roth (C).

In 2109, a similar team picture will list Darnell McDonald as "unidentified"

TeamCasey
04-06-2009, 01:00 PM
Happy Opening Day, Zoners! :)

Lot's of nice updates needed for those of us stuck in cubicle prison.

reds44
04-06-2009, 01:03 PM
C/O Trent:

Just heard one Met beatwriter bet another that Micah Owings will have two hits, including a homer, off of Oliver Perez on Thursday.

The rest of the rotation looks like this:

Wednesday vs. Mets: RHP Edinson Volquez vs. RHP Mike Pelfrey
Thursday vs. Mets: RHP Micah Owings vs. LHP Oliver Perez
Friday vs. Pirates: RHP Johnny Cueto vs. RHP Jeff Karstens
Saturday vs. Pirates: RHP Aaron Harang vs. LHP Paul Maholm
Sunday vs. Pirates: RHP Bronson Arroyo vs. RHP Ian Snell

Today's transaction, the Reds officially purchase the contract of OF Laynce Nix from Class AAA Louisville. Nix will wear 17, Darnell McDonald will wear No. 16.

Bronson Arroyo has started throwing right now (9:50). Dick Pole's headed out to the bullpen. I'm gonna head downstairs.

UPDATE (11:03 a.m.): Players are out in the rain throwing right now. There's been reports of snow flakes coming down. I haven't seen 'em yet.

So, talked to Bronson Arroyo who said he threw 40 pitches in his bullpen and felt great. He still hopes to throw on Thursday.

He said the 40 pitches was a bit more than he'd usually throw this far out, but he thew a few more "just to let them know I'm not full of (it) when I said I'm good to go."

After the swelling from the cortisone went down, Arroyo said his arm felt great. He compared what he was doing before to shooting free throws with a glove on, you can do the action, but you have no touch.

Bullpen coach Porky Lopez caught his session.

Micah Owings also said he hasn't been told he'd start on Thursday for Arroyo.

* Willy Taveras said he feels "a lot better." He had been sidelined with the flu, but said he'd be available if needed today.

Matt700wlw
04-06-2009, 01:11 PM
It's ugly outside, but it's Opening Day. Let's play some ball :)

jesusfan
04-06-2009, 01:22 PM
Here at school I'm going to try and sneak a tv on ESPN... GO REDS!!

reds44
04-06-2009, 01:23 PM
Game time delayed until 1:40.

Reds Fanatic
04-06-2009, 01:24 PM
Latest update from Trent is Arroyo is back to starting Thursday's game.

SirFelixCat
04-06-2009, 01:26 PM
Welcome back, Baseball!

All things aside, today is the best day of the year!

Go Reds!:thumbup:

VR
04-06-2009, 01:31 PM
The rest of the rotation looks like this:

Wednesday vs. Mets: RHP Edinson Volquez vs. RHP Mike Pelfrey
Thursday vs. Mets: RHP Micah Owings vs. LHP Oliver Perez
Friday vs. Pirates: RHP Johnny Cueto vs. RHP Jeff Karstens
Saturday vs. Pirates: RHP Aaron Harang vs. LHP Paul Maholm
Sunday vs. Pirates: RHP Bronson Arroyo vs. RHP Ian Snell


It's nice to see.....Reds have the upper hand in all of those match ups. How many years has it been since we've seen that?

reds44
04-06-2009, 01:33 PM
Arroyo is pitching Thursday, not Owings.

_Sir_Charles_
04-06-2009, 01:40 PM
Anybody know if WLW is carrying the game today? Or anyone else? MLB gameday audio lists a NY station, but it's in spanish...I think I'd prefer english. :O)

Matt700wlw
04-06-2009, 01:43 PM
Now I'm hearing 1:20

reds44
04-06-2009, 01:43 PM
First pitch is now 1:20.

KEEP MOVING IT AROUND

reds44
04-06-2009, 01:48 PM
Chris Welsch shaved his mustache.

Best news all day.

Falls City Beer
04-06-2009, 01:50 PM
The rest of the rotation looks like this:

Wednesday vs. Mets: RHP Edinson Volquez vs. RHP Mike Pelfrey
Thursday vs. Mets: RHP Micah Owings vs. LHP Oliver Perez
Friday vs. Pirates: RHP Johnny Cueto vs. RHP Jeff Karstens
Saturday vs. Pirates: RHP Aaron Harang vs. LHP Paul Maholm
Sunday vs. Pirates: RHP Bronson Arroyo vs. RHP Ian Snell


It's nice to see.....Reds have the upper hand in all of those match ups. How many years has it been since we've seen that?

I'd say the Reds might have the upper hand pitching-wise in three of those games: Wednesday's, Friday's, and Sunday's (provided Owings goes Sunday). They're definitely underdogs against Perez and Maholm.

_Sir_Charles_
04-06-2009, 01:56 PM
I'd say the Reds might have the upper hand pitching-wise in three of those games: Wednesday's, Friday's, and Sunday's (provided Owings goes Sunday). They're definitely underdogs against Perez and Maholm.

I'll buy the Perez game based on Owings being somewhat unproven, but Maholm? Granted, he looked fantastic this spring, but I'm hesitant to count Harangatang out yet. I think he bounces back big-time this season.

What can I say, I'm usually pretty optimistic...but on opening day...Let's start our drive to the Series!!! :O)

Gainesville Red
04-06-2009, 02:01 PM
Geez, no HD on ESPN?

C'mon!

membengal
04-06-2009, 02:02 PM
Owings is moved back to Sunday.

Perez is against Arroyo.

11larkin11
04-06-2009, 02:03 PM
Blackout on ESPN

NJReds
04-06-2009, 02:04 PM
I'd say the Reds might have the upper hand pitching-wise in three of those games: Wednesday's, Friday's, and Sunday's (provided Owings goes Sunday). They're definitely underdogs against Perez and Maholm.

Perez came back from the WBC in terrible shape. He gained weight and his mechanics were off. In his last preseason start, he only lasted 2/3 of an inning. He was so bad that Manuel didn't leave him in to get his work.

He'll probably come out and throw a no-hitter now, but he's been god-awful over the past few weeks.

reds44
04-06-2009, 02:04 PM
I planned on watching on ESPN, but FSN has HD so I'm stuck with George.

Reds Fanatic
04-06-2009, 02:06 PM
Blackout on ESPN

If you can get the game on FSN then ESPN will be blacked out.

vaticanplum
04-06-2009, 02:07 PM
Is anyone else "experiencing technical difficulties" with Gameday audio?

nate
04-06-2009, 02:07 PM
I am pleased to announce that chat is open!

Danny Serafini
04-06-2009, 02:09 PM
Is anyone else "experiencing technical difficulties" with Gameday audio?

Yes, it keeps taking me to TV instead of radio. Frustrating!

registerthis
04-06-2009, 02:09 PM
Is anyone else "experiencing technical difficulties" with Gameday audio?

Yes, I am too.

&$^#%$#&

11larkin11
04-06-2009, 02:09 PM
If you can get the game on FSN then ESPN will be blacked out.

Yea I'm a little upset because I have ESPNHD but not FSNHD so Im stuck with regular FSN.

Matt700wlw
04-06-2009, 02:11 PM
The field looks spectacular!

Falls City Beer
04-06-2009, 02:12 PM
Perez came back from the WBC in terrible shape. He gained weight and his mechanics were off. In his last preseason start, he only lasted 2/3 of an inning. He was so bad that Manuel didn't leave him in to get his work.

He'll probably come out and throw a no-hitter now, but he's been god-awful over the past few weeks.

Four words and a letter: Mets' lefty hitters v. Arroyo

reds44
04-06-2009, 02:14 PM
The new scoreboard is a beast.

Gallen5862
04-06-2009, 02:14 PM
I am getting the Game on ESPN.

Gainesville Red
04-06-2009, 02:14 PM
There's the HD. Looks like I jumped the gun. Nice work ESPN.

NC Reds
04-06-2009, 02:14 PM
My George Grande withdrawal pain is over. :)

membengal
04-06-2009, 02:15 PM
Yes on probs with Gameday audio. And when it takes me to TV, it blacks it out.

VR
04-06-2009, 02:15 PM
What can I say, I'm usually pretty optimistic...but on opening day...Let's start our drive to the Series!!! :O)


OK, perhaps not a clear upper hand.

Let me restate.

How long has it been that the starters haven't been clearly outmatched in 3 out of 5 games? :)

Tom Servo
04-06-2009, 02:16 PM
Skipping my Deductive Logic Class for this. :beerme:

smith288
04-06-2009, 02:17 PM
Sonny and I am watching through the TVAnts app. I suggest those who want to watch it online look into it.

Tom Servo
04-06-2009, 02:18 PM
BP should dye his hair blonde and call himself "The Gold Standard" Brandon Phillips.

reds44
04-06-2009, 02:19 PM
Thank you for turning the HD on ESPN.

LINEDRIVER
04-06-2009, 02:20 PM
I just cant help but wonder.....will EEE's error today be of the throwing or fielding variety??? Hopefully, not one of each, tho that is quite possible.

Just had to get in my dig at Jugglez The Clown. I feel better now. Let's go REDS!!

_Sir_Charles_
04-06-2009, 02:21 PM
OK, perhaps not a clear upper hand.

Let me restate.

How long has it been that the starters haven't been clearly outmatched in 3 out of 5 games? :)

Okay, I'm right on board with you there. A VERY nice change of pace compared to the norm that we've grown used to. :O)

westofyou
04-06-2009, 02:21 PM
Skipping my Deductive Logic Class for this. :beerme:

Logical choice.

Danny Serafini
04-06-2009, 02:21 PM
Gameday Audio now working for me, just in time!

11larkin11
04-06-2009, 02:21 PM
BP should dye his hair blonde and call himself "The Gold Standard" Brandon Phillips.

I hate Shelton Benjamin. He botched so many moves last night at Wrestlemania

registerthis
04-06-2009, 02:21 PM
Gameday Audio is up for me now. I kept getting redirected to MLB TV. So I logged out and logged back in, and now it seems to be working.

HeatherC1212
04-06-2009, 02:22 PM
WOOOO! It's finally Opening Day, I've got a radio here at work so I can follow the game, and I just finished eating my lunch. I'm more than ready to go so let's play ball!! :jump:

TheBurn
04-06-2009, 02:23 PM
Strike 1

reds44
04-06-2009, 02:23 PM
Not a good start.

Tom Servo
04-06-2009, 02:23 PM
I hate Shelton Benjamin. He botched so many moves last night at Wrestlemania
I'm a forgiving guy because Shelton always picks out some crazy spots. But he nearly killed my boy MVP.


Auspicious start?

reds44
04-06-2009, 02:24 PM
Reyes with an infield hit.

reds44
04-06-2009, 02:24 PM
Reyes steals 2nd.

M2
04-06-2009, 02:24 PM
In this weather, Reyes could win the game all by himself.

TheBurn
04-06-2009, 02:24 PM
THAT was close... SB Reyes

Tom Servo
04-06-2009, 02:25 PM
I forgot what a Reds killer Jose Reyes is.

reds44
04-06-2009, 02:25 PM
Murpyh grounds out to Gonzalez.
Reyes to 3rd.

TeamMorris
04-06-2009, 02:25 PM
The game has started? We are in NY right now for spring break and ESPN hasn't started yet. Says rain delay.

jesusfan
04-06-2009, 02:26 PM
Reyes to 3rd on the FC out...

jesusfan
04-06-2009, 02:26 PM
Harang K's Wright! 2 down

Matt700wlw
04-06-2009, 02:26 PM
Harang just tied David Wright in knots.

TheBurn
04-06-2009, 02:27 PM
Beautiful K... nice job there for Harang.

reds44
04-06-2009, 02:27 PM
Harang K's Wright on a 93 MPH heater.
2 outs, Reyes on 3rd.

membengal
04-06-2009, 02:27 PM
That was a rather feisty fastball in a great spot.

Kc61
04-06-2009, 02:27 PM
Harang fans Wright. Despite the man on third, Harang looks pretty good in the early going. Nice fastball there.

TeamMorris
04-06-2009, 02:27 PM
Is ESPN showing the game like listings show?

vaticanplum
04-06-2009, 02:28 PM
Gameday Audio is up for me now. I kept getting redirected to MLB TV. So I logged out and logged back in, and now it seems to be working.

Me too, yay! Gameday audio's a little schmancier this year.

I love Jose Reyes. Sorry.

reds44
04-06-2009, 02:28 PM
Great pitch for strike 2.

M2
04-06-2009, 02:28 PM
Is ESPN showing the game like listings show?

Yes. Though it might be on a different channel in NYC.

jesusfan
04-06-2009, 02:29 PM
Harang walks Delgado... Beltran coming up...

jojo
04-06-2009, 02:29 PM
A 93 mph fastball with the location of that last one against Wright is kinda like a 97 mph fastball....

TeamMorris
04-06-2009, 02:30 PM
For some reason we are not getting it!

Tom Servo
04-06-2009, 02:31 PM
Not gonna lie, I was terrified when that came off of Beltran's bat.

reds44
04-06-2009, 02:31 PM
Whew, Beltran just missed that.

jesusfan
04-06-2009, 02:31 PM
Beltran flies to Center... Reds coming up! Hairston, McDonald, Votto

Reds Fanatic
04-06-2009, 02:32 PM
For some reason we are not getting it!If you are in the New York area it would not be on ESPN it would be on the Mets stations which is SNY.

M2
04-06-2009, 02:33 PM
For some reason we are not getting it!

It's on SportsNet New York instead of ESPN in NYC.

TeamMorris
04-06-2009, 02:33 PM
OK. Got it on a NY sports station. Still nothing on ESPN here.

TeamMorris
04-06-2009, 02:34 PM
Found it. Thanks!

registerthis
04-06-2009, 02:34 PM
Me too, yay! Gameday audio's a little schmancier this year.

Yeah I don't know why they keep mucking with Gameday Audio. I just want an app that will stream audio for me--that's all.

Tom Servo
04-06-2009, 02:35 PM
Nice at-bat by Hairston here so far.

jesusfan
04-06-2009, 02:36 PM
Santana buckles Hairston.. 1 down

NC Reds
04-06-2009, 02:36 PM
Hairston looked a tad lost up there. At least he saw several pitches.

Gainesville Red
04-06-2009, 02:36 PM
Nice pitch. Guess what do you expect from Santana.

membengal
04-06-2009, 02:37 PM
Hairston looked a tad lost up there.

Disagree. He worked the count, and got seven pitches out of Santana. I like making him work.

TheBurn
04-06-2009, 02:37 PM
2nd K for Santana

Tom Servo
04-06-2009, 02:37 PM
After that at-bat, I don't see McDonald being a factor today.

reds44
04-06-2009, 02:37 PM
Yeah, that AB didn't go so well for McDonald.

11larkin11
04-06-2009, 02:38 PM
McDonald...No

Kc61
04-06-2009, 02:38 PM
Reds may not hit a fair ball today.

jesusfan
04-06-2009, 02:38 PM
Why McDonald why?

jesusfan
04-06-2009, 02:39 PM
3-1 to Votto...

jesusfan
04-06-2009, 02:39 PM
3-1 hook.. nasty

TheBurn
04-06-2009, 02:40 PM
Votto walks

jesusfan
04-06-2009, 02:40 PM
Votto draws the walk... Great AB...

Tom Servo
04-06-2009, 02:40 PM
Santana FEARS Votto.

Matt700wlw
04-06-2009, 02:40 PM
Nice at bat by Votto

reds44
04-06-2009, 02:40 PM
Nice AB from Votto.

NC Reds
04-06-2009, 02:40 PM
Good eye by Votto.

11larkin11
04-06-2009, 02:40 PM
Votto now has a 1.000 OBP. Good enough?

membengal
04-06-2009, 02:41 PM
Get that pitch count up, nice work this inning from the Reds.

11larkin11
04-06-2009, 02:41 PM
C'mon Phillips, this is what you're here for, beat LHP

BCubb2003
04-06-2009, 02:42 PM
All the parts that Votto has? There are none that Santana wants.

jesusfan
04-06-2009, 02:44 PM
Another great AB...

membengal
04-06-2009, 02:44 PM
Reds are winning the game within the game with all deep counts they have forced on Santana in the first.

TheBurn
04-06-2009, 02:44 PM
Full count to BP , Santana at 24 pitches

reds44
04-06-2009, 02:44 PM
At least we've made him work.

24 pitches

TheBurn
04-06-2009, 02:44 PM
BP walks...

Matt700wlw
04-06-2009, 02:44 PM
Patience. I like it.

jesusfan
04-06-2009, 02:44 PM
Phillips walks! 1st and 2nd for Bruuuuuuuuuuuuce...

reds44
04-06-2009, 02:45 PM
Phillips starts the year with a walk.

"BRUUUUUUCE"

membengal
04-06-2009, 02:45 PM
Real nice work from Phillips there. Heartened by the patience...

Tom Servo
04-06-2009, 02:45 PM
Santana IS SLIGHTLY THREATENED by Brandon Phillps.

Reds Fanatic
04-06-2009, 02:45 PM
Good AB by Phillips.

HeatherC1212
04-06-2009, 02:45 PM
BRUUUUUUUUCE!!!!! :D

jesusfan
04-06-2009, 02:45 PM
I love the patience...

TheBurn
04-06-2009, 02:45 PM
Bruce with a pretty huge cut there (for the whiff)

Raisor
04-06-2009, 02:46 PM
Call off the search and rescue teams, I made it.

medford
04-06-2009, 02:46 PM
I'd like to see Jay drive Satana's changeup into Left Field for a 1-0 lead

NC Reds
04-06-2009, 02:47 PM
Votto and Phillips shouldn't be clogging the bases like that.

Reds Fanatic
04-06-2009, 02:47 PM
Santana already up to 30 pitches.

TheBurn
04-06-2009, 02:47 PM
Bruce pops up... 3 out

Tom Servo
04-06-2009, 02:47 PM
Well, we made him work.

jesusfan
04-06-2009, 02:47 PM
Bruce flies to center... 0-0 after 1...

reds44
04-06-2009, 02:47 PM
Just a couple of base cloggers.

medford
04-06-2009, 02:48 PM
well at least they made him work, perhaps we can force them to go to the pen before the 6th.

membengal
04-06-2009, 02:48 PM
Good effort from Bruce.

30 pitches for Santana that inning. Very nice work from the Reds.

gm
04-06-2009, 02:48 PM
Reds may not hit a fair ball today.

take that

Reds Fanatic
04-06-2009, 02:48 PM
After an inning. Harang 18 pitches, Santana 31 pitches.

Patrick Bateman
04-06-2009, 02:48 PM
Bruce didnt look too confident there after swinging and missing on the two fastballs. Shortened his swing and made lame contact.

A good inning though, lots of pitches. Could be a 5 inning type of outing for Santana.

Team Clark
04-06-2009, 02:49 PM
Santana will settle down a bit. Still looked sharp. Votto was looking for a change and got a break that the 94 mph FB was just a bit outside. Hoping the Reds will go to bat with a better approach next inning.

11larkin11
04-06-2009, 02:49 PM
Not the Mets of the last two years. Get to the pen in the 6th and 7th because the 8th and 9th are pretty rock solid. But at least Putz and K-Rod are both righties.

Team Clark
04-06-2009, 02:50 PM
Harang's timing looked good in the 1st. Getting his front foot down in time, bending nice. Let's see what happens here in the 2nd.

jojo
04-06-2009, 02:51 PM
Harang does look leaner.

reds44
04-06-2009, 02:51 PM
That was a bad play by Votto.

Falls City Beer
04-06-2009, 02:52 PM
That was a bad play by Votto.

Be detailed, play-by-players, please!

medford
04-06-2009, 02:52 PM
huh, sean heading out west. I thought he was going to stay put, wonder whom X will go after next.

reds44
04-06-2009, 02:53 PM
Be detailed, play-by-players, please!
Edwin made a nice play on Church, but Votto's foot slipped off the bag.

gm
04-06-2009, 02:54 PM
That was a bad play by Votto.

You can't blame Joey for being loosey-goosey over there at 1b whenever EdE is throwing without his feet set

reds44
04-06-2009, 02:54 PM
They're gonna steal bases all day on Hernandez.

Falls City Beer
04-06-2009, 02:54 PM
Edwin made a nice play on Church, but Votto's foot slipped off the bag.

Ah.

Team Clark
04-06-2009, 02:54 PM
WOW...the Mets are getting RUNNING leads on Harang.

jesusfan
04-06-2009, 02:54 PM
big jump by Church, horrible throw by Hernandez= Stolen base

membengal
04-06-2009, 02:54 PM
That last one was clearly not on Hernandez. Church was halfway to second before Harang delivered the ball...

jojo
04-06-2009, 02:55 PM
Hernandez might go the whole season without throwing a guy out....

CaiGuy
04-06-2009, 02:55 PM
Grande said that this is the 40th sell-out in GABP history. Citi Field will probably beat that this year alone.

reds44
04-06-2009, 02:55 PM
Schneider flies out to Hairston in LF, Church stays put.
1 out

VR
04-06-2009, 02:55 PM
That was a bad play by Votto.

These are the plays that have haunted the Reds over the last several years. Not the errors, but the little plays that could have been outs....allowing innings to continue, pitchers to get more wear, and never get noticed in the box score. Being able to execute in all situations just wears down an opponent, knowing they need to earn every thing.
Winning teams get it done....let's hope the trend ends in '09!

Team Clark
04-06-2009, 02:56 PM
They're gonna steal bases all day on Hernandez.

Neither of those steals were on Hernandez. As a matter of fact, he nearly threw out Reyes in the 1st after he had a two step lead on Harang.

11larkin11
04-06-2009, 02:56 PM
BTW, the Mets only have one lefty out of the pen, Pedro Feliciano. As soon as Johan leaves, I say put Dickerson in for McDonald.

NC Reds
04-06-2009, 02:56 PM
Scoreboard looks great.

M2
04-06-2009, 02:57 PM
Grande said that this is the 40th sell-out in GABP history. Citi Field will probably beat that this year alone.

Might beat it in its first 41 games.

membengal
04-06-2009, 02:57 PM
Where was that frickin' pitch?

HeatherC1212
04-06-2009, 02:57 PM
From what I'm hearing on the radio, this ump doesn't have that great of a K zone today. :bang:

Raisor
04-06-2009, 02:57 PM
I'm enjoying seeing OPS listed on the on screen stat line sometimes.

membengal
04-06-2009, 02:57 PM
Strike four finally gets called.

reds44
04-06-2009, 02:57 PM
Harang paints the corner and gets Castillo looking.
2 outs

TheBurn
04-06-2009, 02:57 PM
Another beautiful pitch by Harang to get Castillo

11larkin11
04-06-2009, 02:58 PM
Wow whats with all the hate for Hernandez. Both those steals were off Harang and the first one almost got Reyes

Team Clark
04-06-2009, 02:58 PM
Nice set up Harang. Great job. Ball is moving well.

Team Clark
04-06-2009, 02:59 PM
Wow whats with all the hate for Hernandez. Both those steals were off Harang and the first one almost got Reyes

People read that he was bad defensively in Baltimore. Not realizing that there pitching staff was comprable to Rookie ball. So, a guy steals a bag with a running lead and we're back to "Hernandez sucks"....

reds44
04-06-2009, 02:59 PM
Uh, Harang.

3-1 on Johan

jesusfan
04-06-2009, 02:59 PM
Don't walk the pitcher!

reds44
04-06-2009, 02:59 PM
People read that he was bad defensively in Baltimore. Not realizing that there pitching staff was comprable to Rookie ball. So, a guy steals a bag with a running league and we're back to "Hernandez sucks"....
Who said Hernandez sucks?

Matt700wlw
04-06-2009, 03:00 PM
Wow. Nice play, Gonzo!

TheBurn
04-06-2009, 03:00 PM
GREAT JOB GONZO! 3 out

Tom Servo
04-06-2009, 03:00 PM
A-Gon! Got him!

jesusfan
04-06-2009, 03:00 PM
There is the benefit of a great defensive SS...

NC Reds
04-06-2009, 03:00 PM
Harangutan is off to a solid start. Good to see.

reds44
04-06-2009, 03:00 PM
GONZALEZ!!!!!

Good to have you back.

gm
04-06-2009, 03:00 PM
That ball skips by country Kepp

Team Clark
04-06-2009, 03:00 PM
Great play for a guy who supposedly has no range. Very nice job with a wet ball.

jojo
04-06-2009, 03:01 PM
Neither of those steals were on Hernandez. As a matter of fact, he nearly threw out Reyes in the 1st after he had a two step lead on Harang.

Ya, Baltimore's staff killed Hernandez too.

HeatherC1212
04-06-2009, 03:01 PM
Gonzo!!! :jump:

Hernandez had to catch Daniel Cabrera on a regular basis. That should tell you all you need to know about how hard it was at times to play in Baltimore and this is coming from an Orioles fan. :bang:

membengal
04-06-2009, 03:01 PM
I cannot underscore enough, for those of you who are not watching, that the two steals so far have clearly been off Harang. Whether or not Hernandez is or is not a good catcher in terms of throwing out runners we won't know until a pitcher does a better job holding runners close and keeping them from getting running leads.

The first steal Hernandez made closer than it should have been. The last steal, the throw was on the 3b side of the bag, but it wouldn't have mattered, the bag was so clearly stolen. Heck, Phillips was even late getting to the bag it was so stolen.

Really nice play of Alex G there. Welcome back, Alex G.

WMR
04-06-2009, 03:01 PM
Gonzo!!!

That would've been a hit if Keppy was playing SS.

jojo
04-06-2009, 03:01 PM
Gonzo stimulating the laundry sector of the economy....

Falls City Beer
04-06-2009, 03:01 PM
That ball skips by country Kepp

I'm guessing the ball's past Kepp before any reaction.

Patrick Bateman
04-06-2009, 03:02 PM
He definitely looked faster in the field than Kepp ever did.... otherwise I think that's into CF for a hit. Gonzo at least looked as fast as he ever did there.

reds44
04-06-2009, 03:03 PM
Gonzalez took 5 steps and a dive. Impressive.

M2
04-06-2009, 03:03 PM
A good SS gets that ball without the dive or the fumble.

nate
04-06-2009, 03:03 PM
Just a reminder that chat is open!

TheBurn
04-06-2009, 03:03 PM
lol... ugly swing there by EE

reds44
04-06-2009, 03:04 PM
EE walks

Tom Servo
04-06-2009, 03:04 PM
More baseclogging.

jojo
04-06-2009, 03:04 PM
A good SS gets that ball without the dive or the fumble.

Ya and the sog in the infield probably didn't speed the ball up either.

gm
04-06-2009, 03:04 PM
A good SS gets that ball without the dive or the fumble.


Janish? Or do you have someone else in mind that Jock could actually acquire?

Reds Fanatic
04-06-2009, 03:05 PM
Already 3 walks by the Reds.

Team Clark
04-06-2009, 03:05 PM
Who said Hernandez sucks?

All I read all winter on this board. Over and over. Hernandez, albeit not a Gold Glove catcher will surprise quite a few of the boo birds.

TheBurn
04-06-2009, 03:05 PM
OH MY!

jesusfan
04-06-2009, 03:05 PM
what a play...

Tom Servo
04-06-2009, 03:05 PM
I hate you, Ryan Church.

Falls City Beer
04-06-2009, 03:05 PM
A good SS gets that ball without the dive or the fumble.

I just watched the replay on it, and I'm not sure I agree. He was definitely positioned pretty far from the ball's path. If you want to take him to task for his defensive alignment, okay, but it was a pretty solid play.

NC Reds
04-06-2009, 03:06 PM
I hope these deep counts lead to some runs. I fear if they don't Dusty will inform them they aren't being aggressive enough.

Hernandez hit into some bad luck there.

membengal
04-06-2009, 03:06 PM
Good eye by EE to draw the walk, then Hernandez's liner in right center caught, and EE doubled off first.

Thought that ball was in the gap off the bat. Guess not. Guess EE was fooled as well.

HeatherC1212
04-06-2009, 03:06 PM
Edwin :bang:

Team Clark
04-06-2009, 03:06 PM
A good SS gets that ball without the dive or the fumble.

Not on that wet clay... :D

reds44
04-06-2009, 03:06 PM
The bobble worked out well for Church.

jojo
04-06-2009, 03:06 PM
Now that is a tough one

membengal
04-06-2009, 03:08 PM
Alex G Ks.

43 pitches through two for Santana. 3 ks, 3 bb, at least his count is heading in the right direction...

jesusfan
04-06-2009, 03:08 PM
After 2 no score...

Team Clark
04-06-2009, 03:08 PM
Hope the Reds can touch up Santana by the 5th or 6th. He'll be around 90 pitches by then.

registerthis
04-06-2009, 03:08 PM
Alex G Ks.

43 pitches through two for Santana. 3 ks, 3 bb, at least his count is heading in the right direction...

Only 13 pitches in the 2nd though, after 30 in the first. Look slike he has settled down, and still hasn't allowed a hit.

Reds Fanatic
04-06-2009, 03:08 PM
0-0 after 2.

Harang 40 pitches.
Santana 43 pitches

11larkin11
04-06-2009, 03:08 PM
Welsh and Grande harping on Edwins baserunning. They do realize that if that drops and Edwin isn't more than halfway he's gunned out at second right? Im guessing he thought it dropped too when it bounced up

M2
04-06-2009, 03:09 PM
Janish? Or do you have someone else in mind that Jock could actually acquire?

I'm just noting Gonzalez made that play look more dramatic than it really was.

Who else? I don't care.

membengal
04-06-2009, 03:10 PM
Only 13 pitches in the 2nd though, after 30 in the first. Look slike he has settled down, and still hasn't allowed a hit.

He was helped there by EE getting doubled off first, otherwise he was in line for more...

reds44
04-06-2009, 03:10 PM
Welsh and Grande harping on Edwins baserunning. They do realize that if that drops and Edwin isn't more than halfway he's gunned out at second right? Im guessing he thought it dropped too when it bounced up
Yeah, I'm not sure you can blame Edwin for that. Phillips was right on the money, the bobble caused Edwin to freeze.

jojo
04-06-2009, 03:12 PM
Welsh and Grande harping on Edwins baserunning. They do realize that if that drops and Edwin isn't more than halfway he's gunned out at second right? Im guessing he thought it dropped too when it bounced up

Ya, EE was in tough a spot. That said, if the ball drops, he's probably thrown out at second but it's not a DP.

reds44
04-06-2009, 03:13 PM
Hairston took an interesting route to that ball.

jesusfan
04-06-2009, 03:13 PM
We do have speed in the outfield, that's for sure...

HeatherC1212
04-06-2009, 03:13 PM
Two outs all ready. One more now Aaron! :)

jesusfan
04-06-2009, 03:13 PM
Nasty 1st pitch by Harang...

Tom Servo
04-06-2009, 03:14 PM
What's up with all the empty seats behind home plate?

reds44
04-06-2009, 03:15 PM
Nice inning for Harang.

gm
04-06-2009, 03:15 PM
Hairston took an interesting route to that ball.

Made me wonder how Dunn would've (mis)played it

hebroncougar
04-06-2009, 03:16 PM
Harang is looking great today. Hope Dusty doesn't decide to use him to close on Thursday. ;)

jojo
04-06-2009, 03:16 PM
I hate seeing all of the empty seats on opening day.

Harang seems to be working pretty effortlessly.

Falls City Beer
04-06-2009, 03:17 PM
Alright. The O breaks through this inning.

gm
04-06-2009, 03:18 PM
Alright. The O breaks through this inning.

9-1-2...what are the odds?

M2
04-06-2009, 03:19 PM
Nice inning for Harang.

Weather might be helping him a bit. It's hard to hit in frigid weather, but Harang's asking for trouble if he keeps going 3-1 on guys like Reyes and Wright.

Playadlc
04-06-2009, 03:19 PM
Harang is pure comedy at the plate.

NC Reds
04-06-2009, 03:19 PM
Jerry shows off his warning track power. 2 away.

membengal
04-06-2009, 03:19 PM
McDonald's going deep, that will get it done...

medford
04-06-2009, 03:19 PM
anyone else get the feeling MacDonald is going to take Johan deep? Didn't think so.

Tom Servo
04-06-2009, 03:20 PM
Old McDonald has no bat...

reds44
04-06-2009, 03:20 PM
Not a very good inning.

Playadlc
04-06-2009, 03:20 PM
McDonald needs to take a pitch there.

Matt700wlw
04-06-2009, 03:20 PM
I didn't know Darnell McDonald was a first round draft pick...

_Sir_Charles_
04-06-2009, 03:20 PM
So much for that high pitch count for Johan. :O) 6 pitch inning there.

membengal
04-06-2009, 03:20 PM
That wouldn't be a homerun in a phone booth.

Both Hairston and McDonald swung at first pitches. Very disappointing. Only six pitches total for Santana that inning.

NC Reds
04-06-2009, 03:20 PM
McDonald is the new Corey.

LincolnparkRed
04-06-2009, 03:21 PM
Dusty must have talked to them about all those base clogging walks.

Who is our hitting coach these days?

Team Clark
04-06-2009, 03:21 PM
So much for that high pitch count for Johan. :O)

Minus 1 for hope.

HeatherC1212
04-06-2009, 03:21 PM
What happened to working the count?! :eek:

Falls City Beer
04-06-2009, 03:21 PM
9-1-2...what are the odds?

Apparently not very good. :)

Raisor
04-06-2009, 03:22 PM
I didn't know Darnell McDonald was a first round draft pick...

bad scouting

CrackerJack
04-06-2009, 03:22 PM
That wouldn't be a homerun in a phone booth.

Both Hairston and McDonald swung at first pitches.

And thus maybe some of the reason why those empty seats exist today beyond the weather...the two guys missing from that lineup might've made a difference...

_Sir_Charles_
04-06-2009, 03:22 PM
Minus 1 for hope.

No! Never! We'll win this game 4-1, and chase Johan in the fifth.

WMR
04-06-2009, 03:22 PM
The McDonald era is off to an illustrious start.

NJReds
04-06-2009, 03:23 PM
Dusty must have talked to them about all those base clogging walks.

Who is our hitting coach these days?

This guy, I think ...

http://femme.blogs.com/photos/uncategorized/paul_bunyan.jpg

Team Clark
04-06-2009, 03:23 PM
No! Never! We'll win this game 4-1, and chase Johan in the fifth.

Ok, OK... Jury is still out. :thumbup:

jojo
04-06-2009, 03:24 PM
bad scouting

Baltimore hasn't had a winning season since drafting Darnell.... :eek:

Kc61
04-06-2009, 03:25 PM
This is the kind of game you get when your team is more pitching oriented. If the Reds can stay tied through six or so, they will have a shot because the Mets won't overuse Santana in this weather.

CrackerJack
04-06-2009, 03:25 PM
whoa didn't notice Miller flip flopped and is headed to Arizona either until just now...

WMR
04-06-2009, 03:26 PM
How can this be a sellout when 3/4 of the premium seats aren't sold?

TheBurn
04-06-2009, 03:28 PM
Ugh!

Raisor
04-06-2009, 03:28 PM
monsoon season in Cincy?

Tom Servo
04-06-2009, 03:28 PM
It really is nice having Frank back in the fold.


Bloop single, darn.