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reds44
04-08-2009, 04:42 PM
Mets:
Jose Reyes ss
Daniel Murphy lf
David Wright 3b
Carlos Delgado 1b
Carlos Beltran cf
Ryan Church rf
Brian Schneider c
Luis Castillo 2b
Mike Pelfrey p

Reds:
Jerry Hairston Jr. cf
Chris Dickerson lf
Joey Votto 1b
Brandon Phillips 2b
Jay Bruce rf
Edwin Encarnacion 3b
Ramon Hernandez c
Alex Gonzalez ss
Edinson Volquez p

Tom Servo
04-08-2009, 07:48 PM
Go team!

Cyclone792
04-08-2009, 07:48 PM
It's amazing to say, but that may be the best starting eight that we'll see start a game this season.

Degenerate39
04-08-2009, 07:51 PM
It's amazing to say, but that may be the best starting eight that we'll see start a game this season.

I'm not sure. I think we'll see Stubbs up with the team some time this year. I think he'll be a tough CF or LF.

Degenerate39
04-08-2009, 07:53 PM
What a boring pre-game show

rotnoid
04-08-2009, 07:53 PM
I'm still optimistic there'll be reason to make a deal at the deadline, barring that, I can't disagree.

Tom Servo
04-08-2009, 07:59 PM
Grande and Welsh are benched in favor of Thom and The Cowboy tonight.

penantboundreds
04-08-2009, 08:04 PM
Is JHJ a better defensive center fielder than Dickerson?

Not trying to jump on Dusty, just a question.

Other than that it looks good to me.

Degenerate39
04-08-2009, 08:08 PM
Is anyone else having volume problems with FSN?

Reds Fanatic
04-08-2009, 08:08 PM
Is anyone else having volume problems with FSN?Yes I am having the same problem. Sounds keeps going real low on the game then back to normal on the commercials.

OnBaseMachine
04-08-2009, 08:09 PM
Is anyone else having volume problems with FSN?

Yep.

Tom Servo
04-08-2009, 08:09 PM
Is anyone else having volume problems with FSN?
Yes, the volume randomly became very low before.

Reds Fanatic
04-08-2009, 08:12 PM
That is about the smallest crowd I have ever seen at the ballpark tonight.

Tom Servo
04-08-2009, 08:13 PM
That is about the smallest crowd I have ever seen at the ballpark tonight.
I was going to comment on that as well. Pretty depressing.

Tom Servo
04-08-2009, 08:15 PM
A-Gon robs Reyes! 1 out.

Reds Fanatic
04-08-2009, 08:15 PM
Great catch by Gonzalez.

OnBaseMachine
04-08-2009, 08:15 PM
Great play by Gonzalez.

Reds Fanatic
04-08-2009, 08:17 PM
Murphy grounds out to Volquez.

Red in Chicago
04-08-2009, 08:18 PM
Reds broadcast not in HD tonight?

Reds Fanatic
04-08-2009, 08:19 PM
Wright walks.

Reds Fanatic
04-08-2009, 08:19 PM
Reds broadcast not in HD tonight?no

Tom Servo
04-08-2009, 08:20 PM
Walks haunt. 2-0 Mets.

Reds Fanatic
04-08-2009, 08:21 PM
Delgado with a long homer to right. 2-0 Mets.

Reds Fanatic
04-08-2009, 08:22 PM
Beltran singles to center.

Matt700wlw
04-08-2009, 08:22 PM
Good start...

Matt700wlw
04-08-2009, 08:24 PM
Better ending to the inning :)

Reds Fanatic
04-08-2009, 08:25 PM
Hernandez throws the runner out at 2nd to end the inning. 2-0 Mets mid 1st.

Tom Servo
04-08-2009, 08:25 PM
The Reds sure know how to take the crowd of a game.

GAC
04-08-2009, 08:25 PM
Chat is open :beerme:

HeatherC1212
04-08-2009, 08:26 PM
It is SO nice to have Gonzo manning SS again this year. That catch was awesome! :)

I hope they get the volume fixed at some point. :eek:

Tom Servo
04-08-2009, 08:28 PM
Hairston THROWS his bat at non-believers in his skills.

HeatherC1212
04-08-2009, 08:28 PM
Whoa, watch out for the bat! Poor Jerry even looked freaked out about that one. :eek:

Reds Fanatic
04-08-2009, 08:30 PM
Hairston singles to right.

Tom Servo
04-08-2009, 08:32 PM
Thom and Brantley are fawning over Dickerson. I can dig it.

Reds Fanatic
04-08-2009, 08:32 PM
Dickerson draws a 4 pitch walk. 1st and 2nd.

membengal
04-08-2009, 08:32 PM
Nice eye making him throw strikes to Dickerson. Which he didn't. Good work in the 2-spot.

membengal
04-08-2009, 08:34 PM
The continuing sound issues are really annoying.

Tom Servo
04-08-2009, 08:36 PM
VOTTO!!~

Reds Fanatic
04-08-2009, 08:36 PM
Votto homers to left center. 3-2 Reds!!

Matt700wlw
04-08-2009, 08:36 PM
:jump:

OnBaseMachine
04-08-2009, 08:36 PM
Votto homers! 3-2 Reds.

membengal
04-08-2009, 08:36 PM
Boom goes the dynamite.

Oppo field too. No doubt.

HeatherC1212
04-08-2009, 08:36 PM
JOEY VOTTO!!!!!!!!! :jump:

Red in Chicago
04-08-2009, 08:37 PM
That's the way to get your team back in the game

Falls City Beer
04-08-2009, 08:37 PM
Three long ABs where the hitters worked the count. Yep, the hackin' Dustys.

Reds Fanatic
04-08-2009, 08:37 PM
Phillips doubles to right center.

Tom Servo
04-08-2009, 08:37 PM
BP stand up double!

Me likey.

HeatherC1212
04-08-2009, 08:37 PM
Pelfrey isn't fooling anyone tonight. :D

Tom Servo
04-08-2009, 08:38 PM
Productive out!

Reds Fanatic
04-08-2009, 08:39 PM
Bruce grounds out to 2nd. Phillips goes to 3rd. 1 out.

OnBaseMachine
04-08-2009, 08:39 PM
It would be nice if they can get this other run in.

_Sir_Charles_
04-08-2009, 08:40 PM
Pelfrey isn't SANTANA. :D

Fixed that for you. :O)

This team CAN hit. But any team will look pretty bad in poor weather AND facing Johan. All the handwringing on opening day simply baffled me.

HeatherC1212
04-08-2009, 08:40 PM
Fixed that for you. :O)

Good point, LOL :laugh:

HeatherC1212
04-08-2009, 08:42 PM
Good eye Edwin. Come on Ramon!! :)

Reds Fanatic
04-08-2009, 08:42 PM
Great AB by Edwin as he walks. 1st and 3rd.

OnBaseMachine
04-08-2009, 08:42 PM
Outstanding atbat by Edwin. That's his third walk in five plate appearances.

membengal
04-08-2009, 08:43 PM
Ridiculously quality At-bat from EE to work the walk there. He fought off a lot of close pitches, and worked back from an 0-2 hole to get on base.

_Sir_Charles_
04-08-2009, 08:43 PM
OBP? Walks? Seriously, who's team IS this? :O)

EE draws a walk on a nice AB for the uninformed.

Scrap Irony
04-08-2009, 08:43 PM
Three long ABs where the hitters worked the count. Yep, the hackin' Dustys.

Never has so much (misinformation) come from so little (proof). But hey, Baker is an easy target. He talks-- a lot-- often, it seems, just to hear himself talk.

And Redszone loves easy targets.

Mario-Rijo
04-08-2009, 08:43 PM
Fixed that for you. :O)

This team CAN hit. But any team will look pretty bad in poor weather AND facing Johan. All the handwringing on opening day simply baffled me.

This team is being more patient than expected. So this is a tremendous sign, which will make them better.

HeatherC1212
04-08-2009, 08:45 PM
Patience is a virtue. ;)

OnBaseMachine
04-08-2009, 08:45 PM
3-1 on Hernandez.

Tom Servo
04-08-2009, 08:45 PM
Lucky break!

membengal
04-08-2009, 08:45 PM
DP alley, and the ball is thrown away instead. Thanks Jose Reyes.

4-2 Reds. We'll take it.

Reds Fanatic
04-08-2009, 08:45 PM
Hernandez grounds into a 4-6 FC. Reyes throw gets past Delgado. Run scores! 4-2 Reds.

HeatherC1212
04-08-2009, 08:45 PM
Wow! I think that error was on Delgado. :eek:

membengal
04-08-2009, 08:45 PM
Pretty awful effort from Delgado too. Gracious.

Red in Chicago
04-08-2009, 08:46 PM
Delgado scores two and gives one back :)

Reds Fanatic
04-08-2009, 08:46 PM
Intentional walk to Gonzalez. 1st and 2nd.

OnBaseMachine
04-08-2009, 08:46 PM
I'll take it. :)

Gonzalez getting intentionally walked. Nice. Now the top of the order will be up next inning.

Falls City Beer
04-08-2009, 08:46 PM
Gotta believe the Mets' pen will be getting warm soon. Pelfrey's pitch count?

HeatherC1212
04-08-2009, 08:46 PM
Gonzo hasn't played in a year and they're intentionally walking him?! That is hilarious, LOL :lol:

Time for Volquez to get his first hit of the year! :D

Red in Chicago
04-08-2009, 08:49 PM
Gotta believe the Mets' pen will be getting warm soon. Pelfrey's pitch count?

43 i think

Reds Fanatic
04-08-2009, 08:50 PM
Volquez strikes out looking. A 44 pitch inning for Pelfrey. 4-2 Reds after 1.

Falls City Beer
04-08-2009, 08:50 PM
43 i think

That's a terrible load for one inning. Dusty's got nothing on their manager. That's terrible.

OnBaseMachine
04-08-2009, 08:50 PM
Hopefully Edinson can settle down and make this lead last.

Reds Fanatic
04-08-2009, 08:53 PM
Church grounds out to 2nd. 1 out.

Reds Fanatic
04-08-2009, 08:54 PM
Another ground out to 2nd. 2 outs.

membengal
04-08-2009, 08:54 PM
Liking all the ground ball outs from Volquez. And the early swinging from the Mets for same.

Reds Fanatic
04-08-2009, 08:56 PM
Castillo strikes out looking on a 91 MPH pitch on the inside corner. 4-2 Reds mid 2nd.

OnBaseMachine
04-08-2009, 08:57 PM
Great inning by Volquez.

Reds Fanatic
04-08-2009, 09:01 PM
Hairston grounds out to short. 1 out.

membengal
04-08-2009, 09:02 PM
When is a ground out a successful at-bat leading off an inning? When you make the pitcher throw 9 pitches to get it. Well done, Jerry, very well done.

Reds Fanatic
04-08-2009, 09:04 PM
Dickerson flies out to left as Murphy makes a sliding catch. Reds continue to make good ABs and are really making Pelfrey work.

Reds Fanatic
04-08-2009, 09:05 PM
Votto grounds out to 2nd on the first pitch. 4-2 Reds after 2.

HeatherC1212
04-08-2009, 09:05 PM
That's not patient Joey. Don't go back to the old ways when you have a pitcher going on sixty pitches.

OnBaseMachine
04-08-2009, 09:05 PM
Excellent atbats by Hairston and Dickerson. They both made outs, but they saw a combined total of 16 pitches.

Votto grounded out on the first pitch.

61 pitches through two innings for Pelfrey.

GAC
04-08-2009, 09:05 PM
When is a ground out a successful at-bat leading off an inning? When you make the pitcher throw 9 pitches to get it. Well done, Jerry, very well done.

Absolutely

Reds Fanatic
04-08-2009, 09:08 PM
Pelfrey strikes out swinging. 2 Ks for Volquez. 1 out.

OnBaseMachine
04-08-2009, 09:09 PM
That 0-2 pitch to Reyes looked good.

Reyes walks after Volquez was squeezed on the 0-2 pitch.

Reds Fanatic
04-08-2009, 09:11 PM
Reyes walks after being behind 0-2. I thought the 0-2 pitch looked like a strike.

HeatherC1212
04-08-2009, 09:13 PM
I feel like the pitchers are being squeezed again tonight. This umpiring crew seems to be making that a habit for this series.

membengal
04-08-2009, 09:14 PM
Good work from Votto on that in-between hop.

Two outs.

Reds Fanatic
04-08-2009, 09:14 PM
Nice stop by Votto and Volquez hustles to the bag. 2 outs. Reyes goes to 2nd.

HeatherC1212
04-08-2009, 09:15 PM
I love when a pitcher can cover 1B that well. :)

membengal
04-08-2009, 09:15 PM
Agree on the tight strike zone from this crew again. It has hurt Pelfrey more, thankfully, but both are dealing with elevated counts due to it.

Reds Fanatic
04-08-2009, 09:17 PM
There is another pitch that looked good called a ball.

membengal
04-08-2009, 09:18 PM
One way to get past a tight zone, pump 94 mph fastballs past a very late swing. Nice.

Reds Fanatic
04-08-2009, 09:18 PM
Wright strikes out swinging. 3 Ks for Volquez. 4-2 Reds mid 3rd.

HeatherC1212
04-08-2009, 09:19 PM
Nice K there!! :D

Reds Fanatic
04-08-2009, 09:22 PM
Phillips draws a leadoff walk.

membengal
04-08-2009, 09:22 PM
Phillips takes a BB.

Which I love to see from him.

OnBaseMachine
04-08-2009, 09:22 PM
Two walks in two games for Phillips. I like seeing that.

Reds Fanatic
04-08-2009, 09:23 PM
Balk moves Phillips to 2nd.

membengal
04-08-2009, 09:23 PM
Balk on Pelfrey, Phillips to 2nd.

BoydsOfSummer
04-08-2009, 09:23 PM
Flipped over and watched Greinke face a Sox batter. His pitch speeds were: 62 , 94 , 93, 69, 72, 93. How's that for messing with a guy's timing? :eek:

membengal
04-08-2009, 09:23 PM
That's just sick.

Reds Fanatic
04-08-2009, 09:23 PM
Bruce just missed an opposite field double. Just foul.

HeatherC1212
04-08-2009, 09:24 PM
Man, that couldn't have been closer without being a fair ball. :(

OnBaseMachine
04-08-2009, 09:25 PM
I can't believe that ball went foul. An inch (literally) to the right and that's an RBI double.

Reds Fanatic
04-08-2009, 09:25 PM
Bruce flies out to the warning track in center. Phillips moves to 3rd. 1 out.

HeatherC1212
04-08-2009, 09:25 PM
That's a HR in the summer! :eek:

BoydsOfSummer
04-08-2009, 09:25 PM
Yeowch...in july that sucker is 10 rows deep....

Reds Fanatic
04-08-2009, 09:26 PM
Edwin pops out to 2nd. 2 outs.

HeatherC1212
04-08-2009, 09:29 PM
Bah. That sucks. I wish we could have gotten that run in.

Reds Fanatic
04-08-2009, 09:29 PM
Hernandez flies out to right. Runner stranded at 3rd. 4-2 Reds after 3.

GAC
04-08-2009, 09:30 PM
get'em on....get'em over....leave'em there. ;)

OnBaseMachine
04-08-2009, 09:30 PM
Missed opportunity by the Reds. Runner on third with only one out and they fail to score. Hopefully that doesn't comeback to bite them.

I still can't believe that ball Bruce hit went foul. I didn't think there was a chance for it to go foul when it come off the bat.

AmarilloRed
04-08-2009, 09:30 PM
Edwin pops out way too much.

HeatherC1212
04-08-2009, 09:31 PM
Cool visual comparing Edinson's pitching motions. :)

HeatherC1212
04-08-2009, 09:34 PM
That's just nasty! Go Edinson. :D

Reds Fanatic
04-08-2009, 09:34 PM
Delgado strikes out swinging on a 77 MPH changeup. 4 Ks. 1 out.

Reds Fanatic
04-08-2009, 09:36 PM
Beltran flies out to the warning track in left. 2 outs.

HeatherC1212
04-08-2009, 09:37 PM
Man, at the pace this game is going tonight, it will still be on when I get done watching Lost, LOL :laugh:

Reds Fanatic
04-08-2009, 09:38 PM
Church doubles down the left field line.

membengal
04-08-2009, 09:38 PM
Edwin pops out way too much.

You'd be happier with a K, then?

Baseball is a game with failure built in. He made contact, sometimes you have to tip your hat to the pitcher. That was a good change-up. I am pretty sure EE did not want to fail in that manner.

OnBaseMachine
04-08-2009, 09:39 PM
Of course Church hits a ball in the same spot to Bruce and it stays fair.

Reds Fanatic
04-08-2009, 09:39 PM
Wild pitch moves Church to 3rd.

Mario-Rijo
04-08-2009, 09:39 PM
That Church double was indeed a foul ball.

Reds Fanatic
04-08-2009, 09:41 PM
Schneider walks. 1st and 3rd.

GAC
04-08-2009, 09:41 PM
That Church double was indeed a foul ball.

Hit the chalk line. My 56" screen TV caught it. ;)

OnBaseMachine
04-08-2009, 09:41 PM
One strike away from having a 1-2-3 inning and now the Mets are threatening.

Mario-Rijo
04-08-2009, 09:42 PM
Hit the chalk line. My 56" screen TV caught it. ;)

My 42" says different by george! ;)

HeatherC1212
04-08-2009, 09:42 PM
Thom and Cowboy....it's game TWO of the season. I'm sure Edinson knows he has to work on getting the walks down so he can pitch longer into games. It's too early to be harping on things so much but maybe I'm just in a good mood because both the O's and Reds are winning at the moment and I don't want to be brought down yet, LOL ;)

Reds Fanatic
04-08-2009, 09:43 PM
Castillo walks. Bases loaded.

Tom Servo
04-08-2009, 09:43 PM
There's no good excuse for walking guys like Schneider and Castillo.

Reds Fanatic
04-08-2009, 09:44 PM
Pelfrey staying in to hit.

OnBaseMachine
04-08-2009, 09:44 PM
I have a bad feeling about this.

HeatherC1212
04-08-2009, 09:45 PM
Um, I'd like to buy a strike right now please. :eek:

Reds Fanatic
04-08-2009, 09:46 PM
3-1 count on Pelfrey. That pitch looked good.

HeatherC1212
04-08-2009, 09:46 PM
COME ON! :eek:

Tom Servo
04-08-2009, 09:47 PM
Thank goodness!

Reds Fanatic
04-08-2009, 09:47 PM
Pelfrey grounds out to 3rd. 4-2 Reds mid 4th.

HeatherC1212
04-08-2009, 09:47 PM
*whew* That was a little too scary for me. :eek:

_Sir_Charles_
04-08-2009, 09:47 PM
Wow. 1 strike away from a 1-2-3 inning...and now this. Once he got up 0-2 he started playing around the edge instead of going right after the hitters. That's a dangerous combination. I'd really like to see him staying aggressive.

Tom Servo
04-08-2009, 09:49 PM
Can we start blaming the WBC yet?

OnBaseMachine
04-08-2009, 09:49 PM
What's up with all these great pitchers struggling in their first start? Cliff Lee, Sabathia, Lincecum, and a couple others too. Even Santana and Harang struggled with their control.

Reds Fanatic
04-08-2009, 09:50 PM
Gonzalez pops out to 1st.

HeatherC1212
04-08-2009, 09:51 PM
It's actually somewhat comforting to me to see other pitchers struggling too. Apparently everyone is human. ;)

Reds Fanatic
04-08-2009, 09:52 PM
Volquez grounds out to short. 2 outs.

_Sir_Charles_
04-08-2009, 09:52 PM
What's up with all these great pitchers struggling in their first start? Cliff Lee, Sabathia, Lincecum, and a couple others too. Even Santana and Harang struggled with their control.

Cold weather?

membengal
04-08-2009, 09:53 PM
The injury bug eternally stalks Hairston...

Tom Servo
04-08-2009, 09:54 PM
The injury bug eternally stalks Hairston...
Tried to Keppinger himself.

Reds Fanatic
04-08-2009, 09:56 PM
Hairston strikes out swinging. 4-2 Reds after 4.

OnBaseMachine
04-08-2009, 09:56 PM
Hairston K's on ball four. Another long atbat though.

Edinson needs a 1-2-3 inning.

Team Clark
04-08-2009, 09:57 PM
My stomach is on fire and my knee is killing me. Maybe a Reds win can distract me. Volquez needs a 1-2-3 inning here under 15 pitches.

CTA513
04-08-2009, 09:57 PM
Pelfrey is at 92 pitches after 4 innings

HeatherC1212
04-08-2009, 09:58 PM
Time for Lost...I'll catch you all in about an hour. The game will probably still be going at this rate, LOL ;)

Reds Fanatic
04-08-2009, 09:59 PM
Reyes singles to center on an 0-2 pitch.

OnBaseMachine
04-08-2009, 09:59 PM
Reyes singles on an 0-2 fastball. That was a perfect time for the changeup. Instead they went with an 0-2 fastball.

Reyes on base with 0 outs = trouble.

Tom Servo
04-08-2009, 10:00 PM
Well, this isn't going well.

Reds Fanatic
04-08-2009, 10:01 PM
Murphy singles to left. 1st and 2nd.

OnBaseMachine
04-08-2009, 10:01 PM
Time to change pitchers. Edinson is losing it.

Tom Servo
04-08-2009, 10:02 PM
Oh jeez...

Reds Fanatic
04-08-2009, 10:02 PM
Should have been a DP but Gonzalez bobbles it. Bases loaded no outs.

Team Clark
04-08-2009, 10:03 PM
Ooops. Odd play there. Not good.

OnBaseMachine
04-08-2009, 10:03 PM
So far, the defense looks the same as it did last year. Should be two outs.

Degenerate39
04-08-2009, 10:03 PM
This will not end well

Falls City Beer
04-08-2009, 10:03 PM
Alright, so Volquez shouldn't be facing Delgado.

Tom Servo
04-08-2009, 10:04 PM
I can't wait until we're done playing the Mets.

Falls City Beer
04-08-2009, 10:04 PM
So far, the defense looks the same as it did last year. Should be two outs.

Defense and pitching both. The only thing that's looked good in both games has been the O. The more things change.

OnBaseMachine
04-08-2009, 10:05 PM
Defense and pitching both. The only thing that's looked good in both games has been the O. The more things change.

What? Are we watching the same team? The pitching allowed two runs in the first game and scored just one. The pitching has been fine.

Tony Cloninger
04-08-2009, 10:06 PM
Again with the high pitch counts for these starters......5 innings and done is not going to get it done.

membengal
04-08-2009, 10:06 PM
The O looked good in Game 1, fcb? Really?

Falls City Beer
04-08-2009, 10:07 PM
What? Are we watching the same team? The pitching allowed two runs in the first game and scored just one. The pitching has been fine.

Neither starter going past 5 innings, lots of free passes, complete inefficiency on both starters' part; total inability to retire weak hitters. The defense has been bad too. But the offense has been good in both games, regardless of runs scored; they've worked the count, been patient.

HeatherC1212
04-08-2009, 10:08 PM
The O looked good in Game 1, fcb? Really?

Dang, I'm only half paying attention and that threw me too. :confused:

Team Clark
04-08-2009, 10:08 PM
Once Volquez gets settled in and stops pushing the ball in tough spots he will be dominant again. He's alright. Just young still.

Reds Fanatic
04-08-2009, 10:08 PM
10 pitch AB. Delgado grounds out to 1st. Run scores. 4-3. Runners on 2nd and 3rd with 1 out.

OnBaseMachine
04-08-2009, 10:08 PM
Neither starter going past 5 innings, lots of free passes, complete inefficiency on both starters' part. The defense has been bad too. But the offense has been good in both games, regardless of runs scored; they've worked the count, been patient.

You obviously watched a different team than I did. The Reds had one run on three hits in game one.

membengal
04-08-2009, 10:08 PM
That should be the inning, that ground ball out from Delgado.

Frustrating.

Tony Cloninger
04-08-2009, 10:08 PM
Good grief.....Delgado...could you not hit that harder to Votto for the DP?

Talk about good luck for the Mets

jesusfan
04-08-2009, 10:09 PM
great....

membengal
04-08-2009, 10:09 PM
And after the 1st inning on Monday, they were ridiculously impatient on offense.

Tom Servo
04-08-2009, 10:09 PM
Ok, take him out.

OnBaseMachine
04-08-2009, 10:09 PM
That should be the inning, that ground ball out from Delgado.

Frustrating.

Yep. Errors will haunt.

Reds Fanatic
04-08-2009, 10:09 PM
Beltran singles to center. 5-4 Mets.

Team Clark
04-08-2009, 10:09 PM
Ball doesn't hit the mound he's out by 3 feet.

Reds Fanatic
04-08-2009, 10:10 PM
That is it for Volquez.

membengal
04-08-2009, 10:10 PM
Every run this inning unearned. Can't believe that Alex G gagged that double play alley ground ball. Very frustrating.

Falls City Beer
04-08-2009, 10:10 PM
You obviously watched a different team than I did. The Reds had one run on three hits in game one.

Good approaches don't always get good results.

Team Clark
04-08-2009, 10:10 PM
Well, that helps my fantasy team. I have Delgado and Pelfrey.

guttle11
04-08-2009, 10:10 PM
Ball doesn't hit the mound he's out by 3 feet.

Maybe three steps. Wouldn't have been close at all.

Game of inches.

Reds Fanatic
04-08-2009, 10:10 PM
Massett in to pitch.

AmarilloRed
04-08-2009, 10:10 PM
Volquez threw all fastballs and changeups. Is his slider not working? He's over 100 pitches, so Delgado should be his last batter.

OnBaseMachine
04-08-2009, 10:11 PM
Volquez didn't have his best stuff but this should have been a 5 IP, 2 R performance. Instead it looks awful in the boxscore.

Caseyfan21
04-08-2009, 10:11 PM
And I'd give Dusty an error for leaving Volquez in against Beltran. Volquez was over 100 pitches and just had a tough at bat with Delgado. Guy is ready in the bullpen.

Heck, I'd have walked Beltran to set up the double play and brought in Masset for the next batter.

Mario-Rijo
04-08-2009, 10:11 PM
WHy was he pitching to Beltran there? Dusty ball at it's finest.

flyer85
04-08-2009, 10:11 PM
Thom and Mr Obvious are selling the Reds hard tonight

membengal
04-08-2009, 10:12 PM
Good approaches don't always get good results.

Their approach in the 1st inning and a half was fine on Monday, fcb, after that...not so much. Stop re-writing history. That was not anywhere close to a good offensive effort on Monday and it was only a close game because of the pitching staff.

Blitz Dorsey
04-08-2009, 10:12 PM
Every run this inning unearned. Can't believe that Alex G gagged that double play alley ground ball. Very frustrating.

Yep, pretty much exactly what I remember about him. He once was a good defensive SS, but man has he gone downhill. And it's too simple to say it's just "rust" this year because it's the exact same stuff he pulled in '07.

Matt700wlw
04-08-2009, 10:12 PM
Hopefully Volquez got that out of his system and returns to form next week

Falls City Beer
04-08-2009, 10:13 PM
Their approach in the 1st inning and a half was fine on Monday, fcb, after that...not so much. Stop re-writing history. That was not anywhere close to a good offensive effort on Monday and it was only a close game because of the pitching staff.

They looked fine all day Monday, outside of three ABs. Harang was incredibly lucky his line wasn't worse.

jesusfan
04-08-2009, 10:13 PM
Nice pick Votto...

Tom Servo
04-08-2009, 10:13 PM
NOW we get the double play...

Team Clark
04-08-2009, 10:14 PM
Maybe three steps. Wouldn't have been close at all.

Game of inches.

I meant to say 3 steps and typed feet. I'm still on pain meds, so hang with me. We're thinking alike. Scary. :D

Reds Fanatic
04-08-2009, 10:14 PM
6-4-3 DP. Nice play by Votto to scoop that throw up. 5-4 Mets mid 5th.

OnBaseMachine
04-08-2009, 10:14 PM
They looked fine all day Monday, outside of three ABs. Harang was incredibly lucky his line wasn't worse.

Again, you and I watched different games. Harang allowed seven hits - two infield singles, two bloopers, and a misplay. Harang pitched very good despite being incredibly unlucky.

membengal
04-08-2009, 10:14 PM
FCB---Your Harang hatred is weird in that it skews your vision as to the rest of the team in order to properly feed your hatred of Harang.

Falls City Beer
04-08-2009, 10:15 PM
Yep, pretty much exactly what I remember about him. He once was a good defensive SS, but man has he gone downhill. And it's too simple to say it's just "rust" this year because it's the exact same stuff he pulled in '07.

Wayne's acquisition keeps on giving. Janish's glove and bat are both better at this point, but we'll get A-Gon till he turns to dust on the field.

Mario-Rijo
04-08-2009, 10:15 PM
Every run this inning unearned. Can't believe that Alex G gagged that double play alley ground ball. Very frustrating.

IDK how you can knock Gonzo for that when Reyes may have blocked his vision partially on it.

membengal
04-08-2009, 10:15 PM
On top of that, you didn't even watch the game on Monday, fcb, if I remember right from the game thread...

Falls City Beer
04-08-2009, 10:16 PM
FCB---Your Harang hatred is weird in that it skews your vision as to the rest of the team in order to properly feed your hatred of Harang.

I don't hate Harang. I just wish he were a better pitcher.

Falls City Beer
04-08-2009, 10:16 PM
On top of that, you didn't even watch the game on Monday, fcb, if I remember right from the game thread...

I watched the last 6 innings.

membengal
04-08-2009, 10:16 PM
IDK how you can knock Gonzo for that when Reyes may have blocked his vision partially on it.


It was in his glove cleanly. 100 out of 100 shortstops have to make that play. And do. It is a much play. He dropped it getting it out of his glove. Reyes had nothing to do with that.

OnBaseMachine
04-08-2009, 10:16 PM
I don't hate Harang. I just wish he were a better pitcher.

He's been one of the better pitchers in the NL since 2005.

Reds Fanatic
04-08-2009, 10:16 PM
Dickerson grounds out to short. 1 out.

Team Clark
04-08-2009, 10:17 PM
Wayne's acquisition keeps on giving. Janish's glove and bat are both better at this point, but we'll get A-Gon till he turns to dust on the field.

I can forgive the botched DP. A bit of weird play. I'm just wondering where he was up the middle? Maybe that knee is keeping him from getting a good crossover. Not too cool.

HokieRed
04-08-2009, 10:17 PM
Kepp with a dinger according to Marty.

Mario-Rijo
04-08-2009, 10:17 PM
FCB---Your Harang hatred is weird in that it skews your vision as to the rest of the team in order to properly feed your hatred of Harang.

Harang hatred, huh FCB despises the entire Reds organization it would seem. He wouldn't like 'em if we swapped out the cards players and f.o. for them.

Tom Servo
04-08-2009, 10:18 PM
Another hit for Votto.

jesusfan
04-08-2009, 10:18 PM
Votto is a flat out stud.... That's all...

Reds Fanatic
04-08-2009, 10:18 PM
Votto singles to left. Reds first hit since the 1st inning.

jesusfan
04-08-2009, 10:18 PM
Kepp with a dinger according to Marty.

Watch him go to Houston and become an All-star...

Team Clark
04-08-2009, 10:18 PM
Kepp with a dinger according to Marty.

I wonder what the combined average and overall production are of the 3 musketeers Dunn, Griffey and Kepp?

Mario-Rijo
04-08-2009, 10:19 PM
It was in his glove cleanly. 100 out of 100 shortstops have to make that play. And do. It is a much play. He dropped it getting it out of his glove. Reyes had nothing to do with that.

I'd disagree he lost sight of it for just a split second it appeared to me. Of course he may have taken his eye off of ti in which case that would be his fault. But hey even routine plays are not always routine.

membengal
04-08-2009, 10:19 PM
Mario...it was in his glove. Cleanly. In his glove.

Reds Fanatic
04-08-2009, 10:20 PM
Phillips pops out to 3rd. 2 outs.

Falls City Beer
04-08-2009, 10:20 PM
The problem with Reds' pitchers is that as the game goes on, they pitch inside more and more.

Reds Fanatic
04-08-2009, 10:20 PM
Bruce singles. 1st and 3rd.

GAC
04-08-2009, 10:20 PM
Mario...it was in his glove. Cleanly. In his glove.

Yep. He was throwing it before he had it.

Team Clark
04-08-2009, 10:21 PM
Nice piece of hitting there.

jesusfan
04-08-2009, 10:21 PM
Bruce singles thru the vacated hole after the hit and run... 1st and 3rd, 2 down and Edwin up...

Tom Servo
04-08-2009, 10:21 PM
C'mon Edwin, a base knock would be much appreciated.

Tony Cloninger
04-08-2009, 10:21 PM
Up until that error everything was cool with AG....everyone was happy we had a SS again. He makes 1 error and now he is done already? Okay....

Matt700wlw
04-08-2009, 10:22 PM
A win tonight would be nice because I have no reason to believe that Arroyo will pitch well tomorrow

AmarilloRed
04-08-2009, 10:22 PM
Anything but another popup.

Team Clark
04-08-2009, 10:22 PM
2 seamer on the hands. He'll ground out. (hope I am wrong)

guttle11
04-08-2009, 10:23 PM
That last pitch was a ball all night, until now apparently.

Tom Servo
04-08-2009, 10:23 PM
That was...something.

jesusfan
04-08-2009, 10:23 PM
Great job... Man, I love this new look we've got going on...

guttle11
04-08-2009, 10:23 PM
Dusty ball!

Team Clark
04-08-2009, 10:24 PM
WOW!!!!!!!! That never works... 'til now.

NC Reds
04-08-2009, 10:24 PM
Speed and defense baby.

Tom Servo
04-08-2009, 10:24 PM
Great job... Man, I love this new look we've got going on...
The wins are just stacking up.

Reds Fanatic
04-08-2009, 10:24 PM
Bruce takes off for 2nd gets caught then Votto breaks for home and is thrown out at the plate by Castillo. 5-4 Mets after 5.

jesusfan
04-08-2009, 10:24 PM
I know it's early, but how in the world was I ever excited to see this team play...?

Team Clark
04-08-2009, 10:25 PM
I was going to load up on meds, get my cane and try to catch the game tomorrow. Forget it! I'll stay home.

BuckeyeRedleg
04-08-2009, 10:25 PM
That's scrappy ball right there.

Mario-Rijo
04-08-2009, 10:26 PM
Up until that error everything was cool with AG....everyone was happy we had a SS again. He makes 1 error and now he is done already? Okay....

Exactly as if he isn't allowed the occassional gaff. When he makes more than 15 of them on the year then I'll start being concerned.

cincrazy
04-08-2009, 10:27 PM
Lets put the torches and pitchforks away ladies and gentlemen. He's what, 21? 22? It happens.