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OnBaseMachine
04-09-2009, 03:30 AM
The Louisville roster still hasn't been posted yet but we're starting to get a pretty good idea of what it should look like. IMO, these are the locks:

Homer Bailey, Matt Maloney, Ramon Ramirez, Ben Jukich, Sam Lecure, Carlos Fisher, Josh Roenicke, Pedro Viola, Bill Bray, Robert Manuel.

Craig Tatum, Wilkin Castillo.

Chris Valaika, Adam Rosales, Luis Bolivar, Danny Richar, Wes Bankston.

Drew Stubbs, Danny Dorn, Jonny Gomes, Drew Anderson, Norris Hopper.

That's my best guess. That's 22 spots right there, which leaves three. My guess is two go to Pettyjohn and Kennard. The other spot will probably go to an infielder.

I'll post the official roster when I see it.

mth123
04-09-2009, 04:44 AM
Daryl Thompson? Kevin Barker? Justin Mallett? Miguel Dejesus?

Haven't seen those on the other rosters.

batsfan
04-09-2009, 09:31 AM
According to the louisville newpaper:

Catchers: Craig Tatum, Wilkin Castillo, Brian Peterson
Infielders: Luis Bolivar, Danny Richar, Adam Rosales, Chris Valaika, Kevin Barker, Danny Dorn
Outfielders: Johnny Gomes, Norris Hopper, Drew Stubbs, Wes Bankston
Pitchers: Homer Bailey, Bill Bray, Carlos Fisher, Ben Jukish, Jeff Kennard, Sam LeCure, Justin Mallett, Matt Maloney, Robert Manuel, Adam Pettyjohn, Ramon Ramirez, Josh Roenicke, Pedro Viola


There are two players over roster limit here, so I'd guess that Peterson will be sent down, along with Viola. Drew T. Anderson is not here, so I guess he was released, good luck to him finding a new team, I think he can be a fifth outfielder in the bigs, in fact, I'd rather have him than nix with the reds. Daryl Thompson is also missing, is he on the dl, or at AA. I don't know why Danny Dorn is an infielder and Bankston an oufielder. Bankston could platoon with barker at first, and play a position he is much more famelier with, and Dorn could start in the outfield, where he has a better chance of making the reds, but Bankston will get the outfield playing time, while the lefty Dorn backs up Barker, who is also a lefty, at first.

redhawk61
04-09-2009, 10:55 AM
Who's this Johnny Gomes guy? Is he a prospect I should keep an eye?;) Lets hope the Reds bring him up ASAP, cause it would be mighty nice to be able to go to him on the bench late in the game rather than Donald Mcdonald or Laynce Nix.

OnBaseMachine
04-09-2009, 11:48 AM
Daryl Thompson? Kevin Barker? Justin Mallett? Miguel Dejesus?

Haven't seen those on the other rosters.

Daryl Thompson is expected to stay down in extended spring training for a couple weeks and then join Louisville later this month.

OnBaseMachine
04-09-2009, 11:59 AM
According to the louisville newpaper:

Catchers: Craig Tatum, Wilkin Castillo, Brian Peterson
Infielders: Luis Bolivar, Danny Richar, Adam Rosales, Chris Valaika, Kevin Barker, Danny Dorn
Outfielders: Johnny Gomes, Norris Hopper, Drew Stubbs, Wes Bankston
Pitchers: Homer Bailey, Bill Bray, Carlos Fisher, Ben Jukish, Jeff Kennard, Sam LeCure, Justin Mallett, Matt Maloney, Robert Manuel, Adam Pettyjohn, Ramon Ramirez, Josh Roenicke, Pedro Viola


There are two players over roster limit here, so I'd guess that Peterson will be sent down, along with Viola. Drew T. Anderson is not here, so I guess he was released, good luck to him finding a new team, I think he can be a fifth outfielder in the bigs, in fact, I'd rather have him than nix with the reds. Daryl Thompson is also missing, is he on the dl, or at AA. I don't know why Danny Dorn is an infielder and Bankston an oufielder. Bankston could platoon with barker at first, and play a position he is much more famelier with, and Dorn could start in the outfield, where he has a better chance of making the reds, but Bankston will get the outfield playing time, while the lefty Dorn backs up Barker, who is also a lefty, at first.

Thompson is in extended spring training and won't join Louisville for a couple weeks. As for Viola, he won't be sent down. The Carolina roster is now full. It looks like the Reds have scrapped the plan of starting Viola and instead will use him out of the bullpen.

batsfan
04-09-2009, 12:00 PM
Thompson is in extended spring training and won't join Louisville for a couple weeks. As for Viola, he won't be sent down. The Carolina roster is now full. It looks like the Reds have scrapped the plan of starting Viola and instead will use him out of the bullpen.

Do you know which two players will not make the roster?

OnBaseMachine
04-09-2009, 12:05 PM
Do you know which two players will not make the roster?

My best guess is Brian Peterson and Jeff Kennard.

batsfan
04-09-2009, 12:09 PM
My best guess is Brian Peterson and Jeff Kennard.

I'm suprised they are not yet cut. I assume they must be before first pitch tonight...

OnBaseMachine
04-09-2009, 12:28 PM
In the past few years, the Louisville roster has been mostly filled with a couple prospects here and there and the rest were AAAA types. This year's team is mostly filled with young talent.

On offense, Drew Stubbs, Chris Valaika, Danny Dorn, and Adam Rosales are all prospects. Craig Tatum, Wilkin Castillo, Danny Richar, and Wes Bankston are all lesser prospects, but worth following. Plus there's Jonny Gomes.

The pitching staff is full of prospects. Homer Bailey, Carlos Fisher, Pedro Viola, Josh Roenicke, Sam Lecure, Matt Maloney, Robert Manuel...Bill Bray isn't considered a prospect but he's only 25 years old.

This Louisville team should be fun to follow.

Scrap Irony
04-09-2009, 01:05 PM
Batting order?
1. Stubbs CF
2. Valaika 2B
3. Dorn 1B/ DH/ LF
4. Barker 1B/ DH
5. Rosales 3B
6. Gomes LF
7. Bankston RF
8. Tatum C
9. Bolivar SS

I still think Valaika plays a bunch of SS and Dorn ends up in LF. He'll also go 300/365/520.

batsfan
04-09-2009, 01:16 PM
Batting order?
1. Stubbs CF
2. Valaika 2B
3. Dorn 1B/ DH/ LF
4. Barker 1B/ DH
5. Rosales 3B
6. Gomes LF
7. Bankston RF
8. Tatum C
9. Bolivar SS

I still think Valaika plays a bunch of SS and Dorn ends up in LF. He'll also go 300/365/520.


Bolivar over Richar?

Scrap Irony
04-09-2009, 01:24 PM
Six of one, half a dozen of the other. And Bolivar hit better in Spring Training. That's my bet, at least.

batsfan
04-09-2009, 02:02 PM
Roster is up!

http://web.minorleaguebaseball.com/milb/stats/stats.jsp?t=t_ros&cid=416&stn=true&sid=t416


Where is Mallett? I hope he was not released for Kennard!

OnBaseMachine
04-09-2009, 02:15 PM
Tyler Pelland is listed on the roster. Maybe he didn't retire after all?

Where is Pedro Viola? He was on the roster listed in the Louisville newspaper.

batsfan
04-09-2009, 02:23 PM
Tyler Pelland is listed on the roster. Maybe he didn't retire after all?

Where is Pedro Viola? He was on the roster listed in the Louisville newspaper.

Huh, I guess it is not completly up. Here is the full version
http://www.minorleaguebaseball.com/documents/2009/04/09/555560/1/Active_Player_List_4-09-09.pdf

camisadelgolf
04-09-2009, 02:49 PM
The roster also suggests that the Reds released David Shafer.

OnBaseMachine
04-09-2009, 02:56 PM
The roster also suggests that the Reds released David Shafer.

The Reds traded Davis Shafer two years ago.

Az. Reds Fan
04-09-2009, 03:01 PM
I believe they re-signed him as a minor league free agent this winter. Not sure though...

camisadelgolf
04-09-2009, 03:02 PM
The Reds traded Davis Shafer like two years ago.
He was released by the Athletics, and then the Reds signed him back in early February.

11larkin11
04-09-2009, 03:02 PM
Wrong thread

roborobj
04-09-2009, 03:58 PM
I thought I saw Justin Mallett's name on the Sarasota roster the other day.

redsmetz
04-09-2009, 05:50 PM
Will Lecure be a starter? Where will he fit in the their rotation? My son's going with the OSU group to the Bats/Clippers game in a couple of weeks and I figure he can give Lecure a holler.

coachw513
04-09-2009, 06:14 PM
Huh, I guess it is not completly up. Here is the full version
http://www.minorleaguebaseball.com/documents/2009/04/09/555560/1/Active_Player_List_4-09-09.pdf

This link is a who's-who of former Reds...at a quick glance...

Buffalo: Elmer Dessens
Lehigh: Gary Majewski
Pawtucket: Marcus McBeth
Scranton: Brett Tomko
Syracuse: Ryan Wagner
Columbus: Kirk Saarloos
Indianapolis: Anderson Machado; Andy Phillips
Toledo: Scott Williamson; Dane Sardinha
Charlotte: Ben Broussard; Gookie Dawkins
Durham: Ray Olmedo
Norfolk: Justin Turner; Jolbert Cabrera

Wow...

BRM
04-09-2009, 06:19 PM
OBM will probably buy season tickets for Indianapolis since Andy Phillips is playing there.

redsmetz
04-09-2009, 06:24 PM
Scott Williamson, really? Did I forget he was trying a comeback? I kept hearing that here from time to time, but never heard anything about him actually signing somewhere.

OnBaseMachine
04-09-2009, 06:38 PM
Will Lecure be a starter? Where will he fit in the their rotation? My son's going with the OSU group to the Bats/Clippers game in a couple of weeks and I figure he can give Lecure a holler.

Lecure is indeed in the Louisville rotation. I think he's scheduled to start Monday.

OnBaseMachine
04-09-2009, 07:00 PM
OBM will probably buy season tickets for Indianapolis since Andy Phillips is playing there.

:D Darn right.

GIDP
04-09-2009, 07:11 PM
Id really like to watch the Bats game tonight but I doubt id get much use out of the MILB.tv sub

PhillipsHead
04-09-2009, 07:16 PM
The Bats have a damn good rotation...

GIDP
04-09-2009, 07:24 PM
I gave in and went with the monthly sub for it.

Mario-Rijo
04-09-2009, 08:29 PM
This link is a who's-who of former Reds...at a quick glance...

Buffalo: Elmer Dessens
Lehigh: Gary Majewski
Pawtucket: Marcus McBeth
Scranton: Brett Tomko
Syracuse: Ryan Wagner
Columbus: Kirk Saarloos
Indianapolis: Anderson Machado; Andy Phillips
Toledo: Scott Williamson; Dane Sardinha
Charlotte: Ben Broussard; Gookie Dawkins
Durham: Ray Olmedo
Norfolk: Justin Turner; Jolbert Cabrera

Wow...

Looks like 2/3 of the '04 Reds. :D

roborobj
04-10-2009, 12:11 AM
The Bats have a damn good rotation...

Does anybody know what the rotation is? If LeCure is pitching Monday, who else is pitching in between?

OnBaseMachine
04-10-2009, 12:15 AM
Does anybody know what the rotation is? If LeCure is pitching Monday, who else is pitching in between?

Homer Bailey
Matt Maloney
Ramon Ramirez
Ben Jukich
Sam Lecure

Orenda
04-10-2009, 07:54 PM
Here is what I was thinking in regards to the reds lack of right handed hitting off the bench

1. Experiment with Adam Rosales in LF, he is capable of playing multiple spots on the infield but if he showed he could handle LF than it might enhance his value to the major league club.

2. Of course if you gave time to Rosales in lf than that would take away from other prospects time such as Dorn, but since the reds don't have a true 1b prospect in AAA they could occasionally have Dorn play 1b, which I believe is something that they have already looked at.

3. I think it may be time to part ways with Norris Hopper, the reds already have 4 guys (Hairston, Dickerson, McDonald, Taveras) in MLB who are at worst adequate in CF. They also have a couple of CF prospects above AA (Heisey, Stubbs). I just don't see much of a fit here anymore.

4. Also by releasing Hopper this would open up a spot for the reds to send down McDonald or move up someone else.

To me it just doesn't seem to make a ton of sense to have three right handed hitters with similar skill sets all capable of playing CF on the MLB level yet no right handed pop of the bench.