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Caveat Emperor
04-27-2009, 06:29 PM
Astros:
Kaz Matsui 2b
Michaal Bourn cf
Lance Berkman 1b
Carlos Lee lf
Migual Tejada ss
Hunter Pence rf
Geoff Blum 3b
Purdge Rodriguez c
Roy Oswalt p

Reds:
Willy Taveras cf
Chris Dickerson lf
Joey Votto 1b
Brandon Phillips 2b
Jay Bruce rf
Edwin Encarnacion 3b
Ramon Hernandez c
Alex Gonzalez ss
Johnny Cueto p

Degenerate39
04-27-2009, 06:47 PM
BP batting clean up is getting way too old this early in the season

BCubb2003
04-27-2009, 06:58 PM
I get to listen to Houston-area tornado warnings.

SirFelixCat
04-27-2009, 07:05 PM
I hope Cueto can build on his last start and Bruce/Votto continue their hitting. Good things can only come of it. :thumbup:

Degenerate39
04-27-2009, 07:11 PM
Chat is open

OnBaseMachine
04-27-2009, 07:14 PM
Matsui K's looking.

SirFelixCat
04-27-2009, 07:16 PM
Borne w/ a double just off the tip of EdE's glove, down the line. Redskiller is up.

OnBaseMachine
04-27-2009, 07:16 PM
Bourn doubled. Not a bad pitch by Cueto, just a nice piece of hitting.

SirFelixCat
04-27-2009, 07:17 PM
Redskiller is 11 for 66 on the season, including, shockingly, 3 games vs the Reds. But then again, he has played at GABP yet... :scared:

SirFelixCat
04-27-2009, 07:17 PM
2-2 on Redskiller...Cueto looking solid early on.


2-2 pitch was RIGHT onthe black, outside, but called a ball and Cueto gives him a BB.

OnBaseMachine
04-27-2009, 07:17 PM
The Astros are 15-1 in their last 16 games at GABP.

SirFelixCat
04-27-2009, 07:19 PM
Cueto falls behind 1-0 on El Caballo (sp?) and gets him to ground into a tailor made 6-4-3.

Thru 0.5, 0-0 w/ the good guys coming up to bat!

reds44
04-27-2009, 07:21 PM
Even with the walk and double, Cueto looked good that inning. The pitch to Bourn wasn't bad and it looked like the 2-2 pitch to Berkman was strike 3.

SirFelixCat
04-27-2009, 07:21 PM
I predict Dickerson w/ a 2-hit night tonight...even vs Roy O. Why not, right? :)

SirFelixCat
04-27-2009, 07:23 PM
WillyT one hops into a 5-3 GO.

Degenerate39
04-27-2009, 07:24 PM
I know Oswalt is tough but I really think Dickerson has to be sent down

SirFelixCat
04-27-2009, 07:24 PM
Great catch by a fan on a liner by Dickerson. Well done, sir!


That said, so far, 6 pitches, 6 strikes for Roy O and CD down swinging, and didn't look good doing it either. 13 K's in his last 20 AB's for CD. Rosales anyone? eek

Reds Fanatic
04-27-2009, 07:24 PM
13 Ks now for Dickerson in his last 20 ABs

Tom Servo
04-27-2009, 07:25 PM
Vottomatic groundout.

SirFelixCat
04-27-2009, 07:26 PM
Joey Votto = good.

Not really news, just thought I'd throw it out there.

And just to leave Roy O over confident, Votto decides to ground out weakly, 4-3.

Thru 1, 0-0

HokieRed
04-27-2009, 07:26 PM
Rosales with a double and Bankston with a first inning jack. Hard to see how the status quo in Cinti can last much longer.

OnBaseMachine
04-27-2009, 07:26 PM
I'd like to see Nix get some more atbats in left field. He hit two sharp line drives yesterday but right at someone.

reds44
04-27-2009, 07:27 PM
The Reds left field situation is "not good".

SirFelixCat
04-27-2009, 07:28 PM
2nd pitch HAMMERED to the wall in LF, Dickerson picks it up quickly and guns down Miggy, easily, at 2B. Well done sir!

eta: Had him out at 2B by well over a step. Wasn't even close. he might be struggling at the plate, but :clap: on his defense tonight!

OnBaseMachine
04-27-2009, 07:29 PM
Nice play by Dickerson.

Reds Fanatic
04-27-2009, 07:29 PM
Great throw by Dickerson.

reds44
04-27-2009, 07:29 PM
Dickerson threw a seed to nail Tejada.

SirFelixCat
04-27-2009, 07:32 PM
Sorry phoncall, but 2 more easy outs and thru 1.5, 0-0.

OnBaseMachine
04-27-2009, 07:32 PM
Pence struckout and Blum grounded out. No score after 1 1/2.

Gallen5862
04-27-2009, 07:35 PM
Let's go Reds. Thanks for the PBP.

OnBaseMachine
04-27-2009, 07:37 PM
Phillips grounded out.

Bruce lines out to center. Hit it hard but right at Bourn.

SirFelixCat
04-27-2009, 07:37 PM
BP with a, get this, GO 4-3.

Then Bruce stings a liner to straight away CF, but right at'em, 2 down.

OnBaseMachine
04-27-2009, 07:38 PM
BTW, this ump has a very tight strikezone. Cueto was squeezed on what should have been strike three to Berkman, and Oswalt has been squeezed on a couple pitches too.

SirFelixCat
04-27-2009, 07:38 PM
EdE quickly falls behind 0-2, but holds back on a close one, up and away. 1-2.

Then he 2-hops down to Miggy, 3 down. *sigh*.


Well, at least it's moving along quickly!

OnBaseMachine
04-27-2009, 07:40 PM
The Reds are going to need Cueto to pitch as well as he did in his last start because Oswalt is dominating so far tonight.

BCubb2003
04-27-2009, 07:40 PM
BTW, this ump has a very tight strikezone. Cueto was squeezed on what should have been strike three to Berkman, and Oswalt has been squeezed on a couple pitches too.

I'm beginning to think baseball has a tight strike zone.

SirFelixCat
04-27-2009, 07:40 PM
Thru 2 innings, the pitch counts for both sides in this titanic struggle:

Roy O: 23 (16 strikes)

Cueto: 33 (21 strikes)

BCubb2003
04-27-2009, 07:41 PM
Houston announcer is having a meltdown over a plug he had to read.

SirFelixCat
04-27-2009, 07:42 PM
Wow, all kidding aside, yeah, squeezed is being kind.

From 1-2, to full count on Pudge and he should have K'd twice. Then he fouls one off.

another foul...

Then he hits a liner scorched over Bruce's head, but Jay reaches up, sideways and is able to put the leather on it. Nice play. Not a GREAT play, but a tough catch nonetheless.

1 down for Roy O.

Reds Fanatic
04-27-2009, 07:43 PM
Nice running catch by Bruce

OnBaseMachine
04-27-2009, 07:44 PM
Nice catch by Bruce after he had Pudge struckout.

SirFelixCat
04-27-2009, 07:45 PM
Roy O grounds one right back up the middle next to Cueto's feet, but BP ranges wide behind the bag and throws him out, 2 down for Kaz.

SirFelixCat
04-27-2009, 07:46 PM
Cueto is pitching quite well tonight, but he's not getting many 1st pitch strikes.


That said, on a 1-1 pitch, Matsui (mini-Godzilla?) hits one solidly on the ground past Votto for a single.

Bourn up, 2 down, 1 on.

SirFelixCat
04-27-2009, 07:47 PM
When Houston is making contact, about half the hits are hit pretty doggone hard.

Bourn w/ a harmless 4-3 GO.

Thru 2.5, 0-0

OnBaseMachine
04-27-2009, 07:51 PM
Ramon Hernandez just took an 0-2 fastball right on the outside corner...and the ump called it a ball.

SirFelixCat
04-27-2009, 07:51 PM
Well, the ump is squeezing both, equally, though. The 1-2 pitch to Ramon, the Latin Lover, was def. a strike on the outside corner, but called a ball.

Roy O is pumping in strikes, for sure tonight. Just wait for one, Boys!

Finally, a 6-3 GO on a 2 hopper by the Latin Lover. 1 down. AGon up.

SirFelixCat
04-27-2009, 07:53 PM
AGon flails at the first pitch, then fouls the next off to fall behind 0-2, then chops one to the area the is between 3B and SS...Blum was gonna play it, called off by Miggy, then Miggy can't get it out of his glove, double clutches and AGon beats it out!

Our first hit!

SirFelixCat
04-27-2009, 07:55 PM
Cueto lays down a sacrifice, but it trickles foul down the 1B line. Then he takes a ball...1-1.

Then he foul tips the next one off...so much for the sacrifice.

Instead, he chops one down to Miggy for a 6-4-3 DP and that's the inning folks.


Also, Pudge is hurt...will update when we know more.

OnBaseMachine
04-27-2009, 07:55 PM
Berkman/Lee/Tejada due up for the Astros. Big inning here for Johnny.

SirFelixCat
04-27-2009, 07:58 PM
Ok updated on Pudge.

Cueto's bat when he let it go, fell onto the back of his foot/ankle area. Looked like it hurt like a...well, it didn't tickle I'd guess.

He ended up walking off the field and is laughing in the dugout, so I guess he's fine.

And Cueto starts out Redskiller w/ another first pitch ball. Ugh.

2-0 now on him.

Redskiller chases one down and away and fouls it off, 2-1. Then Cueto pumps in a strike to even the count. 2-2.

SIT DOWN sir, right on the black at the knees, outside corner. 1 down!

SirFelixCat
04-27-2009, 08:02 PM
Cueto starts El Caballo (someone wanna spell that for me?), with a curve for strike one, then fouls off strike two, then a ball high.


Then Lee makes a really loud, really far strike.

Cueto seems pretty in control of things tonight.

Lee flies out harmlessly F8. 2 down.

Cueto just looking really sharp. Definitely carrying over from last game. :thumbup:

SirFelixCat
04-27-2009, 08:02 PM
Wow, Dickerson doing GREAT in LF!

Cueto with a good pitch down below the knees, Miggy does down to get it and laces a SHOT into the gap in LCF, but Dickerson runs his butt off and slides behind it to keep it from going to the wall and makes Miggy slam on the brakes and kept him to a single. You won't see it on webgems, but the crowd game him a loud applause for the play. Really was great.

Great play.

Next pitch, EdE bobbles one and everyone is safe (ruled a hit).

1 and 2nd, 2 down.

Reds Fanatic
04-27-2009, 08:03 PM
Another nice defensive play by Dickerson to cut that off and hold it to a single.

OnBaseMachine
04-27-2009, 08:04 PM
Tejada ain't half the hitter he used to be but he still hits well against the Reds.

OnBaseMachine
04-27-2009, 08:05 PM
Error on EdE to extend the inning. Sigh.

GAC
04-27-2009, 08:05 PM
Good ol' EE.

I hate it when our defense puts a sound pitching effort at jeopardy. But we got out of it.

SirFelixCat
04-27-2009, 08:06 PM
Then Cueto gets Blum to ground out weakly to 1B, flip to Cueto and he gets out the inning.

Good pitching that inning by Cueto, just good hitting my Miggy and even better defense by Dickerson!

thru 3.5 0-0.

OnBaseMachine
04-27-2009, 08:07 PM
If EdE makes that play, the Astros have their 7-8-9 up in the 5th inning. Instead they'll have their 8-9-1.

OnBaseMachine
04-27-2009, 08:07 PM
I have been very unimpressed with Taveras' bunting ability so far. Has he gotten a bunt hit yet?

SirFelixCat
04-27-2009, 08:08 PM
Willy T lays down the first pitch, by bunting, and just puts it in front of the plate just a foot short or so and Pudge hustles and makes a hard, fast throw to barely get WillyT. 1 down.

Then Dickerson lines one past Kaz into RF for a single. Good to see :thumbup:

Redhook
04-27-2009, 08:09 PM
I have been very unimpressed with Taveras' bunting ability so far. Has he gotten a bunt hit yet?

I'm not sure about the answer, but wow is he fast. Can't hit for squat but it's actually fun watching him run.

SirFelixCat
04-27-2009, 08:09 PM
Votto grounds to Redskiller sharply, throw to 2nd and Miggy DROPS IT! Everyone is safe, but he and Dickerson collide and bump heads...both still down...and being checked out by trainers from both sides.

OnBaseMachine
04-27-2009, 08:09 PM
Ouch. That had to hurt. Hopefully Dickerson and Tejada are OK.

Reds Fanatic
04-27-2009, 08:10 PM
That is an ugly collison between Dickerson and Tejada as they collide head to head at 2nd.

SirFelixCat
04-27-2009, 08:10 PM
And odd scene at 2nd right now...both guys on a knee and both trainers looking each over and it looks more like a boxing ring between rounds right now. I think they're both ok, but definitely have a face ache.

SirFelixCat
04-27-2009, 08:11 PM
Both are staying in the game cuz they're hockey pla....wait...nm....

SirFelixCat
04-27-2009, 08:11 PM
1st and 2nd, 1 out for BP. Good time to wake up, Brandon, please?

SirFelixCat
04-27-2009, 08:11 PM
1st pitch is hacktastic and fouls it off.

I think this would be a good time for a double steal imo.

Strike two and Brandon was nowhere near that slider, down and away. 0-2.

Up and away 1-2.

They showed the highlight of Dunn stealing home back in '04 and laying out the catcher. Nice :)


2-2


I still think double steal here...

Jesus...

DP for BP 6-4-3.

For a 'small ball' team, they sure don't steal or try to, too often, eh? I mean come on guys...you JUST KNEW the DP was coming. *sigh*

Thru 4, 0-0.

OnBaseMachine
04-27-2009, 08:14 PM
So predictable. Phillips grounds into a doubleplay. Terrible. Move him to 7th where he belongs.

SirFelixCat
04-27-2009, 08:16 PM
Roy O: 40 (29 strikes)

Cuet O: 68 (43 strikes)

5 hits, 1 error for the 'stros, 2 hits no errors (although one of the 'stros hits should have been an error on EdE) for the Reds.

OnBaseMachine
04-27-2009, 08:16 PM
You can see it coming every time. Runners on, Phillips up = automatic doubleplay. A double steal there would have been nice.

Homer Bailey
04-27-2009, 08:17 PM
Can't wait til we pay BP $12 mil a year.

The shame is I would love BP if he hit 6th, but we have the only manager in the world that would hit him 4.

SirFelixCat
04-27-2009, 08:17 PM
Get ahead curve by Cueto on Pudge, 0-1.

Then 1-1, the lined to Willy T, 1 down F8.

SirFelixCat
04-27-2009, 08:18 PM
Roy O with a dying quail in shallow RCF...both WillyT and Bruce converging, and Bruce gets it on a one-hop... mini-Godzilla up...1 down, 1 on.

Homer Bailey
04-27-2009, 08:19 PM
It's crazy how predictable that was. I've never seen a player as fast as BP ground into so many DP's

SirFelixCat
04-27-2009, 08:20 PM
At least Cueto is throwing more 1st pitch strikes now...good sign.


Then 1-1, then Kaz fouls off strike two...then up and away for make the count 2-2...

same area, full count.

Sick breakingball there! K. 2 down!

SMcGavin
04-27-2009, 08:21 PM
Watching Cueto pitch is fun. Watching Brandon Phillips hit, not so much.

SirFelixCat
04-27-2009, 08:22 PM
Another 1st pitch strike for Cueto (3 for 3 this inning).

Then a nice block on a pitch in the dirt by the Latin Lover...then inside, 2-1 on Bourn.

Fouls the next one off, 2-2.

Another sick breaking ball down and in for the swinging K. Cueto is PITCHING very well. Not just throwing. Just like his last start. Well done, son!

Thru 4.5 0-0.

OnBaseMachine
04-27-2009, 08:23 PM
Get Cueto some runs please.

The Baumer
04-27-2009, 08:23 PM
When is the random Astro with the last name Hunt or Jake and a generic farmer boy face going to hit the solo home run that decides this game?

SirFelixCat
04-27-2009, 08:25 PM
Bah, Bruuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuce first pitch pops up to Miggy. Bad Bruce! 1 down.

SirFelixCat
04-27-2009, 08:25 PM
1-0 on EdE and a can 'o corn, F8. 3 pitches, 2 outs. *sigh*

Homer Bailey
04-27-2009, 08:26 PM
No matter how bad the Reds offense is, look down at the bottom of the thread to the similar threads and be happy we don't have to see this:

4/10 Game Thread @ Astros: Milton vs Oswalt

OnBaseMachine
04-27-2009, 08:27 PM
Meanwhile, Adam Rosales is 2-for-2 with a double and a walk tonight for Louisville. Now OPSing 1.229.

SirFelixCat
04-27-2009, 08:28 PM
Latin Lover falls behind 0-2 on a called strike and a check swing.

And lookey there, a ball!

1-2...

inside, 2-2...

8th pitch of the inning and...

time is called, we'll try it again.

Whoa, that was where exactly? We'll take it, full count.

and Latin Lover draws a BB. With some help from the ump's non-existent K zone, we'll take it!

AGon up, suave fella on 1st...

SirFelixCat
04-27-2009, 08:29 PM
First pitch to AGon taken for a strike.

Then he swings at one OVER HIS HEAD, for strike two....then hits a can 'o corn to Bourn F8.

Thru 5, 0-0.

SirFelixCat
04-27-2009, 08:30 PM
Bring up Rosales :clap::clap:.....:clap::clap::clap:



Bring up Rosales :clap::clap:.....:clap::clap::clap:

OnBaseMachine
04-27-2009, 08:30 PM
Another big inning here. Berkman/Lee/Tejada due up.

Oswalt has thrown 57 pitches in five innings. He could easily go the distance.

SMcGavin
04-27-2009, 08:30 PM
Cueto at 83 pitches through five, Oswalt at 57 (!).

SirFelixCat
04-27-2009, 08:31 PM
Commercial break:


Anyone else as looking forward to the Hatton/Pacman fight as I am?

I was going to go to the fight (here in Vegas), but instead having friends over for it. The smart money is on Hatton 2.25:1 btw ;)

SirFelixCat
04-27-2009, 08:32 PM
People need to be giving Cueto more props here. Yes, the offense is pretty terrible, but come on people.


And Redskiller, on command, goes yard. *sigh*

1-0.

OnBaseMachine
04-27-2009, 08:33 PM
Who didn't see that coming? Can't keep Berkman down for long.

SirFelixCat
04-27-2009, 08:33 PM
Dickerson out of the game...

And Lee flys out to Nix in LF.

OnBaseMachine
04-27-2009, 08:34 PM
That homer ends a streak of 12 consecutive shutout innings by Cueto.

SirFelixCat
04-27-2009, 08:34 PM
Cueto sure looking great tonight, even w/ the HR by Berkman.


Another 1st pitch strike to Miggy...


And he chops one to AGon and Votto with a FANTASTIC scoop on an errant throw by AGon, 2 down!

SirFelixCat
04-27-2009, 08:35 PM
Fish Boy (Pence...I mean, he looks like a big eye'd Molly, doesn't he?!?) pops up the first pitch and Votto squeezes it...1-HR-2-3 inning for Cueto!


Thru 5.5, 1-0 Swamp Things.

SirFelixCat
04-27-2009, 08:36 PM
7 pitch inning for Cueto there, even w/ the HR. Great recovery, imo.

OnBaseMachine
04-27-2009, 08:37 PM
Cueto is hitting for himself. I would have pinch hit for him. The Reds need all the offense they can get.

SirFelixCat
04-27-2009, 08:38 PM
Cueto K's on 4 pitches.

SirFelixCat
04-27-2009, 08:40 PM
WillyT gives it a ride, but flies out just short of the warning track in RCF, F8, 2 down for Laynce Nix.


And what's with the unneeded Y in his name? Lay-nce...???

SirFelixCat
04-27-2009, 08:42 PM
Laynce battling harder than anyone has all night for the Reds. 8th pitch of the AB coming, 2-2:

and he lines one into LCF, Lee lets it go under his glove and Nix hustles for a double!!!


GREAT AB!

SirFelixCat
04-27-2009, 08:43 PM
Votto struts up to the plate w/ man in scoring position, 2 outs....come on Joey!

The Baumer
04-27-2009, 08:43 PM
Things are getting ALMOST interesting.

SirFelixCat
04-27-2009, 08:43 PM
IMO, I'd walk Votto to face BP....but he comes right at Votto...


up high, 1-0...

Joey batting 0.500 w/ RISP...

but he chases one higher than the first one, 1-1. Settle down now...

down low, 2-1.

I think this is the unintentional intentional BB...

or not....wow...JUST MISSED IT.

right down the middle at 94 and swings thru it, 2-2...

and he lays off a NASTY curve low, full count...

Time called and Pudge comes out to the mound and the crowd reacts accordingly...

only 7 hits from the #4 spot for the Reds...that's just gross...

and Votto comes thru...but you knew he would!


single into CF, TIE GAME!

Falls City Beer
04-27-2009, 08:43 PM
Wha happen to Dickerson?

OnBaseMachine
04-27-2009, 08:46 PM
Wha happen to Dickerson?

He collided with Tejada and banged his head.

OnBaseMachine
04-27-2009, 08:46 PM
Votto ties the game with a RBI single!

SirFelixCat
04-27-2009, 08:46 PM
Jesus can that guy hit!

OUReds
04-27-2009, 08:47 PM
Is there any player in baseball more important to a team's offense then Votto? Geesh what a hitter.

Falls City Beer
04-27-2009, 08:47 PM
He's going to be okay though, eh?

WHooo Votto.

SirFelixCat
04-27-2009, 08:47 PM
Wha happen to Dickerson?

If you read the gamethread, you'd see that he and Miggy collided heads on a play at 2B. Probably woozy.

The Baumer
04-27-2009, 08:48 PM
Things are officially interesting now.

Falls City Beer
04-27-2009, 08:48 PM
If you read the gamethread, you'd see that he and Miggy collided heads on a play at 2B. Probably woozy.

Yeah, just got in. No need for snark.

SirFelixCat
04-27-2009, 08:48 PM
Double for BP!!!


Down to the fence in LF. Novel.

Hit too hard for Votto to score, though...

2nd and 3rd for Bruce.

OnBaseMachine
04-27-2009, 08:48 PM
Phillips doubles. Votto holds at third.

The Baumer
04-27-2009, 08:49 PM
VERY interesting!

OnBaseMachine
04-27-2009, 08:49 PM
He's going to be okay though, eh?

WHooo Votto.

I think so. He stayed in the game for an inning or so IIRC. May have a slight concussion possibly.

SirFelixCat
04-27-2009, 08:49 PM
Yeah, just got in. No need for snark.

You're right, I'm sorry. Old habits, ya know;)

OnBaseMachine
04-27-2009, 08:49 PM
Bruce intentionally walked. Bases loaded for EdE. Come on Edwin, break out of this lsump right here.

SirFelixCat
04-27-2009, 08:50 PM
IBB Bruce, smart, imo.

EdE can be a Hero tonight....

SirFelixCat
04-27-2009, 08:50 PM
EdE dribbles one 3 inches in front of the plate and that's that. *sigh*

Tie geame though!

thru 6, 1-1.


Call up Rosales :clap::clap:..........:clap::clap::clap:

11larkin11
04-27-2009, 08:51 PM
Doesnt that run count since it passed, then the tag occured?

CrackerJack
04-27-2009, 08:51 PM
I am just tired of watching EE at this point.

OnBaseMachine
04-27-2009, 08:51 PM
Unbelievable. Encarnacion swings at the first pitch which was outside and at the ankles. Hit the ball maybe six inches. Inning over.

It's to send him to the bench for a little while and call up Rosales. I love the guy, but he's absolutely killing the team right now. A huge situation like that and he swings at the first pitch, which was NO where near a strike. Just an awful atbat.

SirFelixCat
04-27-2009, 08:51 PM
Thru 6:

Roy O: 85/55

Cuet O: 90/57

The Baumer
04-27-2009, 08:52 PM
I hope the Reds and EdE signed a prenup!

CTA513
04-27-2009, 08:52 PM
Was the ball even in fair territory?

SirFelixCat
04-27-2009, 08:52 PM
Doesnt that run count since it passed, then the tag occured?


No, because EdE is still a force at first...so either tagging him or the bag before he reaches and no runs can score.

OnBaseMachine
04-27-2009, 08:52 PM
I still wish they had pinch hit for Cueto there. He's at 90 pitches and the Reds needed the offense.

Mario-Rijo
04-27-2009, 08:52 PM
Doesnt that run count since it passed, then the tag occured?

If Dusty goes out there and says something it should, as long as Houston doesn't appeal before they all leave the field.

SirFelixCat
04-27-2009, 08:53 PM
And wow, where all you people come from???

Mario-Rijo
04-27-2009, 08:53 PM
No, because EdE is still a force at first...so either tagging him or the bag before he reaches and no runs can score.

Hmmm, must have been.

OUReds
04-27-2009, 08:53 PM
I hope the Reds and EdE signed a prenup!

They did. Unfortunately it stipulates that the Reds pay Edwin a rather obscene amount of money upon the divorce.

SirFelixCat
04-27-2009, 08:53 PM
Cueto gets Blum in an 0-2 hole to start the Top 7...

Another foul, still 0-2.

SirFelixCat
04-27-2009, 08:54 PM
Lazy flyball into LF, F7. 1 down.

SirFelixCat
04-27-2009, 08:55 PM
Cueto pumping first pitch strikes since it was pointed out to him....


Then a VERY nice backhanded sliding stop by AGon and throws out Pudge, 2 down!

OnBaseMachine
04-27-2009, 08:56 PM
Two outs and nobody on with Oswalt up. Hopefully this turns out better than the last time in Houston...

SirFelixCat
04-27-2009, 08:56 PM
Cueto = living up to expectations.


Can we PLEASE get this kid some offense?


And a 1-2-3 for Cueto (first one of the night and it's the 7th...improving as the night goes on...nice!), F8 for Roy O.

SirFelixCat
04-27-2009, 08:57 PM
98 Pitches, 64 strikes and that should be it folks!

:clap::clap::clap:

Great outing again, Johnny. Thank you, it was enjoyable to watch you pitch!


Now get some offense so the kid can get the win!

OnBaseMachine
04-27-2009, 08:57 PM
Excellent start by Johnny Cueto: 7 IP, 7 H, 1 R, 1 BB, 5 K

One of those hits should have been an error.

That should be it for Cueto. I wouldn't send him back out there.

GAC
04-27-2009, 08:57 PM
Cueto = living up to expectations.


Can we PLEASE get this kid some offense?


And a 1-2-3 for Cueto (first one of the night and it's the 7th...improving as the night goes on...nice!), F8 for Roy O.

I'm looking on Amazon right now! :p:

SirFelixCat
04-27-2009, 08:58 PM
I'm looking on Amazon right now! :p:

:thumbup:

OnBaseMachine
04-27-2009, 08:59 PM
Cueto has allowed one run or less in his last three starts.

SirFelixCat
04-27-2009, 09:00 PM
Latin Lover is up, 1-2 count...

and takes the next one high, 2-2...

The guy has given some solid AB this week...keeping it up...

inside, runs the count full...

and ground it to baby Godzilla, 1 out. Bah.

OnBaseMachine
04-27-2009, 09:01 PM
It would be a shame if Cueto gets a no decision after a great start like this.

SirFelixCat
04-27-2009, 09:01 PM
And AGon, coming from the same school as EdE and BP, hacks thru the first pitch...


but he gets a single on the next one, right back up the middle, LD....well done!

PH for Cueto...

SirFelixCat
04-27-2009, 09:02 PM
McDonald PH'ing...and sees pitch one a strike.

SirFelixCat
04-27-2009, 09:02 PM
Way inside, 1-1...

outside and Pudge fakes a throw back to 1B...2-1 on Ole Mcdonald...

he swings at a high one and fouls it off...2-2...

Houston BP warming...

McDonald hits it hard, but right at Baby Godzilla and it's a 4-6-3. Close at first, but out. No win for Cueto tonight *sigh*.

RedsManRick
04-27-2009, 09:04 PM
Was I the only one hoping that Owings would pinch hit in that situation instead of McDonald?

OnBaseMachine
04-27-2009, 09:05 PM
McDonald grounds into a doubleplay. Why is this guy on the team?

No decision for Johnny Cueto. This ffense is painful to watch.

OnBaseMachine
04-27-2009, 09:05 PM
Was I the only one hoping that Owings would pinch hit in that situation instead of McDonald?

Same here. McDonald was the worst option available.

OnBaseMachine
04-27-2009, 09:06 PM
Rhodes is coming in. He's due for a bad inning. I hope it's not tonight.

Homer Bailey
04-27-2009, 09:06 PM
Was I the only one hoping that Owings would pinch hit in that situation instead of McDonald?

No you werent.

OnBaseMachine
04-27-2009, 09:06 PM
Cueto: 98 pitches, 64 strikes.
Oswalt: 98 pitches, 63 strikes.

Homer Bailey
04-27-2009, 09:07 PM
Same here. McDonald was the worst option available.

Dugout dice rule man.

SirFelixCat
04-27-2009, 09:07 PM
Ok, someone else take over the pbp....

OnBaseMachine
04-27-2009, 09:10 PM
Matsui flied out and Bourn grounded out. Two outs and nobody on for Berkman. Be careful...

The Baumer
04-27-2009, 09:11 PM
PBP:

Reds are weak.

Reds do more weak stuff.

Pitching is great but team overall does a weak thing.

So on etc. et. al.

OnBaseMachine
04-27-2009, 09:11 PM
Berkman pops out to Votto. 1-2-3 8th inning for Rhodes. 1-1 after 7 1/2.

mbgrayson
04-27-2009, 09:12 PM
Rhodes throws a perfect inning. After seven and a half, tie game with top of the order coming up.

OnBaseMachine
04-27-2009, 09:13 PM
Oswalt is out. Byrdak in.

Red in Chicago
04-27-2009, 09:13 PM
It's hard to get upset with the offense today, when they are facing #1 Reds slayer Oswalt...just sayin ;)

OnBaseMachine
04-27-2009, 09:16 PM
Three more hits and a walk tonight for Rosales.

Razor Shines
04-27-2009, 09:17 PM
Geez Joey, let em walk you so you don't risk getting hurt.

OnBaseMachine
04-27-2009, 09:17 PM
Taveras grounded out and Nix lined out. He's hit the ball the last two days but only has one hit to show for it.

Votto reaches on an infield check swing single.

SirFelixCat
04-27-2009, 09:19 PM
Not that I hope Dickerson is hurt seriously or anything like that...

BUT...

Does this now give the Reds and excuse to call up Pete Rosales and DL Dickerson?

OnBaseMachine
04-27-2009, 09:20 PM
Chris Sampson replaces Byrdak. Phillips up.

OnBaseMachine
04-27-2009, 09:22 PM
Another weak atbat by Phillips as he swings at a 1-2 pitch a foot outside and grounds out weakly. 1-1 heading to the 9th.

Matt700wlw
04-27-2009, 09:24 PM
Same here. McDonald was the worst option available.

Have they used Owings as a pinch hitter a day after (or a day before for that matter) a start?

JaxRed
04-27-2009, 09:26 PM
"Have they used Owings as a pinch hitter a day after (or a day before for that matter) a start? "

If not that's dumb. You pinch hit Owings, because not only is he a better hitter, but if you get ahead by a run, you can use McDonald as a defensive replacement.

OnBaseMachine
04-27-2009, 09:27 PM
Cordero gives up a single to begin the 9th. It would be a shame to lose this game.

Matt700wlw
04-27-2009, 09:28 PM
Cordero off to a rough start...

OnBaseMachine
04-27-2009, 09:29 PM
First and second with nobody out. Anyway the Astros don't score here?

This will be a very frustrating loss. Yet again the offense let them down.

RedsManRick
04-27-2009, 09:29 PM
Pence with a double and an error to advance to third -- 3-1. Ballgame. Cordero's just missing his spots over the plate.

Matt700wlw
04-27-2009, 09:30 PM
"Have they used Owings as a pinch hitter a day after (or a day before for that matter) a start? "

If not that's dumb. You pinch hit Owings, because not only is he a better hitter, but if you get ahead by a run, you can use McDonald as a defensive replacement.

I was just curious.....he does need to rest, especially the day after....

OnBaseMachine
04-27-2009, 09:30 PM
That's ballgame folks.

The offense lost this game. Can't blame Cordero for this one. Meanwhile, Jocketty sits on his butt as the offense struggles night in and night out.

Razor Shines
04-27-2009, 09:31 PM
It's hard to get upset with the offense today, when they are facing #1 Reds slayer Oswalt...just sayin ;)

If it wasn't for the fact that the O has been piss poor all season, I'd probably be inclined to give them a pass as well.

Matt700wlw
04-27-2009, 09:32 PM
I'm glad I went to yesterday's game :D

OnBaseMachine
04-27-2009, 09:33 PM
1-3 on this homestand. Now they have to beat Wandy Rodriguez and Felipe Paulino just to have a .500 road trip. I don't see it happening.

OnBaseMachine
04-27-2009, 09:34 PM
Cordero seems to always struggle in non closing situations. Apparently Dusty didn't know.

OnBaseMachine
04-27-2009, 09:37 PM
The Reds are now 1-16 in their last 17 home games against the horrendous Houston Astros.

Matt700wlw
04-27-2009, 09:40 PM
Cordero seems to always struggle in non closing situations. Apparently Dusty didn't know.

A lot of closers do.

Matt700wlw
04-27-2009, 09:41 PM
12,365 tonight.

membengal
04-27-2009, 09:41 PM
Just getting to the game. Have not scrolled back a few pages. I assume the frustration level with the Reds' third baseman is reaching a boiling point?

OnBaseMachine
04-27-2009, 09:42 PM
With just a little bit of offense, the Reds would be 3-1 on this homestand instead of 1-3. Frustrating.

Matt700wlw
04-27-2009, 09:46 PM
At least Roy O didn't win ;)

top6
04-27-2009, 09:46 PM
With just a little bit of offense, the Reds would be 3-1 on this homestand instead of 1-3. Frustrating.

Frustrating, yes, but also the inevitable consequence of not signing good offensive players.

alloverjr
04-27-2009, 09:47 PM
12,365 tonight.

That'll happen when you lay an egg in front of big crowds

alloverjr
04-27-2009, 09:47 PM
Frustrating, yes, but also the inevitable consequence of not signing good offensive players.

Jerry Hairston?

Matt700wlw
04-27-2009, 09:48 PM
So....would a winning record on the road and .500 ball at home (which they're not) mean the same as the reverse?

Matt700wlw
04-27-2009, 09:51 PM
That'll happen when you lay an egg in front of big crowds

Without question.....I guess I should go every day. I believe they've lost once or twice at GABP when I'm able to get down there...small sample size, though, but getting better :)

Will M
04-27-2009, 10:40 PM
Reds made some nice defensive plays tonight.

EE came up with 2 outs & the bases juiced. He hit a ball about 6 inches. Swung at the first pitch I believe. PLEASE give him a couple of days off.

The 9th was a bit inevitable. Bloop hit. Grounder past EE. then a hard hit double. tough to win when you score only 1 run.

the Reds are averaging ~3.8 runs a game this year. ouch.

OnBaseMachine
04-27-2009, 10:43 PM
Kerry Wood, like Cordero, was brought into a tie game in the 9th tonight and allowed three runs. It seems like all closers struggle in non-closing situations.

Tony Cloninger
04-27-2009, 10:50 PM
Scott Hatteberg should have hit for EE.

OnBaseMachine
04-28-2009, 12:04 AM
Sometimes I wonder if the Reds even scout the opposition before playing them. Take the 9th inning for instance. Miguel Tejada and Hunter Pence, especially Pence, are both suckers for the slider down and away. Very rarely do they lay off that pitch. So in the 9th inning, Cordero had a 1-2 count on Tejada. A perfect chance to bury him with a slider down and away. Instead, Cordero throws a fastball and Tejada pulls it into left field for a single. Hunter Pence stepped in, Cordero quickly got ahead 0-2. Again, a perfect time to throw the slider down and away. Pence is an absolute sucker for that pitch. Instead, Cordero throws a fastball and Pence bangs it into right field for a 2-run double. I don't get it. A quality slider to both of those guys probably results in a strikeout or weak contact.

WVRedsFan
04-28-2009, 02:39 AM
Sometimes I wonder if the Reds even scout the opposition before playing them. Take the 9th inning for instance. Miguel Tejada and Hunter Pence, especially Pence, are both suckers for the slider down and away. Very rarely do they lay off that pitch. So in the 9th inning, Cordero had a 1-2 count on Tejada. A perfect chance to bury him with a slider down and away. Instead, Cordero throws a fastball and Tejada pulls it into left field for a single. Hunter Pence stepped in, Cordero quickly got ahead 0-2. Again, a perfect time to throw the slider down and away. Pence is an absolute sucker for that pitch. Instead, Cordero throws a fastball and Pence bangs it into right field for a 2-run double. I don't get it. A quality slider to both of those guys probably results in a strikeout or weak contact.
You have to wonder. Witness this. Over the last ten yars, hitters who have weaknesses have never been exploited by the Reds while our hitters are pounded in areas where they have little success. I used to think that Reds pitchers and hitters were just dumb, but it's continued through four managers (Boone, Miley, Narron and Baker) and there seems to be no end. In the meantime, opposing pitchers seem to know the weaknesses of our hitters. Maybe it's scouting, but it's more likely a lack of talent, and that's the saddest statement of all.

Falls City Beer
04-28-2009, 10:37 AM
I don't disagree that Reds' pitchers often appear as though they're winging it. But in the case of Cordero, I genuinely think he doesn't know where the ball is going the vast majority of the time.

Falls City Beer
04-28-2009, 10:42 AM
Reds made some nice defensive plays tonight.

EE came up with 2 outs & the bases juiced. He hit a ball about 6 inches. Swung at the first pitch I believe. PLEASE give him a couple of days off.

The 9th was a bit inevitable. Bloop hit. Grounder past EE. then a hard hit double. tough to win when you score only 1 run.

the Reds are averaging ~3.8 runs a game this year. ouch.

The presence of EdE and Phillips in this lineup right now would hurt an otherwise blazing hot offense; they are beyond drags on the offense--it is becoming almost absurd. Replacing the two of them with replacement hitters would greatly brace up the offense right now. They wouldn't be great, but they wouldn't be an almost-intentional-looking scuttling of the offense by EdE and Phillips.

LincolnparkRed
04-28-2009, 11:21 AM
I don't disagree that Reds' pitchers often appear as though they're winging it. But in the case of Cordero, I genuinely think he doesn't know where the ball is going the vast majority of the time.

I couldn't agree more, he seems to have an idea but the way he buries so many sliders in the dirt, you'd think he would just make an slight adjustment, but he can't seem to help himself.

Also can't help that your worst hitter's bat 4th and 6th. Why should anyone pitch to bruce, the guy ahead isn't likely to he on base and the guy behind can't hit anything right now.

Degenerate39
04-28-2009, 04:55 PM
The presence of EdE and Phillips in this lineup right now would hurt an otherwise blazing hot offense; they are beyond drags on the offense--it is becoming almost absurd. Replacing the two of them with replacement hitters would greatly brace up the offense right now. They wouldn't be great, but they wouldn't be an almost-intentional-looking scuttling of the offense by EdE and Phillips.

Couldn't agree more. Having the two coldest hitters batting 4th and 6th is asking to lose. I know Dusty's hands are tied since he probably thinks he doesn't have any other options. To me he seems like the kind of guy that doesn't want to admit when hes wrong (Corey Patterson). Dusty has to do something with this line up and he has to do it now.