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BigRed
04-30-2009, 07:38 AM
Who thinks these two should get a real shot at taking the LF and 3B jobs permanently? I know we have a small sample thus far, but I think that we may have something with these two.

Eric_the_Red
04-30-2009, 09:08 AM
I think Nix has definitely earned some more time in LF with his play recently. I was glad he made the team out of spring training, and think it is a move that could really pay off.

Rosales will certainly get a good deal of playing time with EE out. Let's see how he does in this "audition". EE may be Wally Pipp'd.

Hey Meat
04-30-2009, 09:19 AM
I teach at the school where Lance Nix and his brother (Jayson-who is in the Rockies organization) played high school baseball. (Midland High School) Pretty cool to see him doing well for the Reds. Don't think he hits lefties too well or the breaking ball though.

bounty37h
04-30-2009, 09:33 AM
They def both have earned the chance to compete, through their own performance, as well as the average-poor play, and injuries, of the starters at those spots. Now they have to continue to show they deserve it to stick....but I like what they have brought so far.

Jharb74
04-30-2009, 09:37 AM
I remember another veteran, Buddy Bell, playing 3rd in the 80's. Then he got injured and Chris Sabo took over, and never looked back.

kentjett
04-30-2009, 09:59 AM
Wally Pipp. Rosales is one of those type pf guys that bring excitement to the whole team and stadium. He is an old school,down and dirty baseball player. He is a spark and if he continiues to be patient and hit around .300 for the next 10-13 games, he'll keep his position. He reminds me of Rose. His first plate appearance was a shot to deep lc and he sprinted the whole time until it was in the glove. When he received his walk, he sprinted to 1st. I love the hussle and those type of thing are contagious.

Ghosts of 1990
04-30-2009, 10:45 AM
I don't think that Nix would be effective everyday, although he has played well to this point. I think its just a hot stretch. I think he's more comfortable out there then Dickerson, so he's an edge over him, but I think Hairston should split time with Nix. When guys like Nix play everyday, the opposition finds ways to make them hit .238

I do think Rosales is scrappy enough to play every day. I think he could be a .270 guy who could hit 15 bombs in a big league season, especially the way the ball flies at GABP.

xavr1
04-30-2009, 10:56 AM
Not sure about Nix but count me among those who would love to see Rosales more often. I love his energy, but more importanty, he is swinging the bat real well and hustling hard. Like Cowboy said last night, I dont care what level youre playing at, when youre seeing the ball, youre seeing the ball. And hitting .400 (or whatever it was in AAA) is seeing the ball.

His ABs last night showed plate discipline and tenacity.

tommycash
04-30-2009, 11:39 AM
I remember another veteran, Buddy Bell, playing 3rd in the 80's. Then he got injured and Chris Sabo took over, and never looked back.

To be fair, Buddy was 36 in 1988 and was coming off two good years, but was pretty much done by the end of 1988. Edwin is not that old and still has potential.

To be fair to Buddy, Edwin has not had a Buddy Bell career, even though some think he could be better than Buddy.

I am all for Rosales playing right now, I just don't think the situations are as similar.

Sabo fizzeled after a few years as well.

ChatterRed
04-30-2009, 02:06 PM
Rosales energy last night was fun to watch. I couldn't help but smile everytime he'd do something. He got a clutch rbi single. And then did what seemingly nobody else on the team can do........he hits a sac fly with bases loaded to knock in another run. Then he makes a great play to end the game........that was a bullet to first. Nice.

I love seeing guys that seem to appreciate being in the big leagues. He doesn't seem like a guy who takes it for granted.

As for Nix...........how many times is he going to fall for that inside breaking ball/off speed pitch? I did notice in his last at-bat where he sliced one deep to shortstop for an infield single that they tried to get him on that pitch, but he held off on it.........maybe he's learning. Yeah, I think he deserves more of a shot.

What can you say, both were key to our scoring last night. Without, we're possibly still tied at 0-0 this morning. LOL.

schmidty622
04-30-2009, 02:10 PM
Laynce is the Maynce

PedroBourbon
04-30-2009, 02:54 PM
IMO, Nix has played better than Dickerson and should be playing over him. I am a Rosales fan although he will have a tough time getting an infield spot. He has been fun to watch thus far. By keeping him up will they send McDonald down?

Red in Atl
04-30-2009, 04:27 PM
Dickerson looked like he knew what he was doing for about the first 2 games. Then he just fell apart. I like the guy, but it's just terrible watching him bat (I missed his errors). The more I see Nix and hear about his past, the more I think he might just be ready to break out and get back to the great career he started in Texas.

Wouldn't it be ironic if he ends up being the stud he started out to be, and maybe he even approaches what Hamilton is doing for Texas now. All while we still have Volquez. I know that's a lot to live up to, but a .290 hitter with 20 HR's and 60 RBI's would be more than we need from LF.

That would take playing time from Hairston, but I prefer him as the super sub, and not playing everyday, but spelling all around the team for 2-3 starts a week.

As far as Rosales goes. Please Pipp Encarnacion. I am so over Edwin. I just don't believe he will ever "get it". It starts with that look of pain on his face like he's going to cry all the time, and it ends with him hacking away at bad pitches. He was selective for about 3 games, then just fell back to his old ways. I will say he's played some great defense so far, but I just feel he is not what this team needs.

Rosales on the other hand is exactly what this team needs, as long as he can hit .270 and keep the fire lit.

If we don't make a major trade for a real RH bat for LF, I think these two guys will be needed to make this team even stronger. And don't forget, the young guys on this team all played with Adam coming up. I bet they would prefer him to the moody Encarnacion.

jfar23
04-30-2009, 04:56 PM
I like Nix as a fourth outfielder. I'd still start Dickerson because I like his upside a lot although he is struggling very bad early on. Dickerson has a good approach at the plate and gets on base at a pretty nice clip. It's a small sample but his obp is over 100 points higher than his average so far in his career (and if you want to see just how bad Taveras is realize that Dickerson's obp this season is 10 points below Taveras career obp) Now I am concerned with his defense so far this season.

If Rosales plays really well it will get very interesting. I would keep starting him but Edwin is a very capable player...it would be a good situation to have.

REDblooded
04-30-2009, 05:15 PM
I'm fully onboard with the Rosales bandwagon... IMO, he makes EE expendable, and a young 3b with a decent back like EE should net a decent return if the Reds were to trade him.

BurgervilleBuck
04-30-2009, 06:04 PM
Edwin is not that old and still has potential.
How many more years are we going to have to hear this? I mean, I'm all for patience and so such but something's not completely clicking.

xavr1
04-30-2009, 06:14 PM
If Rosales hits well in the next three weeks with EE out, what more would he have to do to nail down 3B?? I mean, he was hitting .431 in AAA and has been a top prospect. I am tired of waiting on EE's "potential."

cbowen2112
04-30-2009, 06:44 PM
Last night the way Nix follows through reminded me of Josh Hamilton's follow through. Anyone else notice that? I know it is early, but at one time he was above Hamilton's level, what is to say he couldn't come back strong finally after his injury. Yeah it isn't from drugs, but a comeback nonetheless. I feel as well as others that he simply was not given the chance to play everyday. Dickerson is a good 4th-5th outfielder nothing more.

Shawn_RedsFan
04-30-2009, 07:09 PM
I see Rosales making a name for himself.

Nix, ride the hot hand (everyday player if we can catch lightning in a bottle)

Edit: I agree with cbowen2112 about Dickerson being a good 4th-5th OF atm though.

tommycash
04-30-2009, 07:16 PM
How many more years are we going to have to hear this? I mean, I'm all for patience and so such but something's not completely clicking.

Taken out of context. Compared to a Buddy Bell who was 36 when we took him out of the lineup, yes EdE does have some potential. I still think Rosales should be playing in front of him right now.

Captain Hook
04-30-2009, 07:49 PM
Rosales will get a chance.I think he will have to be unbelievable to completely take over at 3B.He will need to do very well just to stay up.I'd say a +.300 average and a few bombs will net him a chance to continue to compete for PT once EE comes back.Probably not completely fair to Rosales considering how EE has been playing but at least its a chance.

I agree that Nix should get more ABs but only because the other options are basically bench players as well.The position needs upgraded from outside the organization IMO but thats a completely different topic.

gedred69
04-30-2009, 10:15 PM
Nix has earned more PT. Dickerson is showing flaws that were overlooked in his short season last year. People love to criticize Baker, but I'm sure he knows more about baseball and the players than any of us, even if he were the worst Mgr. in the game. The fact that he sounded less than 100% behind Dickerson in an ST interview, was telling. Rosales? C'mon, 1 game! He will definitely get his chance to show his stuff the next 2 weeks. I hope he shines at 3rd. I've come to believe my worst fears about EE. EE=DD. (Danny Driessen re-born). Great talent, can't keep his head in the game.

roby
04-30-2009, 11:20 PM
I don't think that Nix would be effective everyday, although he has played well to this point. I think its just a hot stretch. I think he's more comfortable out there then Dickerson, so he's an edge over him, but I think Hairston should split time with Nix. When guys like Nix play everyday, the opposition finds ways to make them hit .238

I do think Rosales is scrappy enough to play every day. I think he could be a .270 guy who could hit 15 bombs in a big league season, especially the way the ball flies at GABP.

If Rosales takes Edwin's job, maybe Edwin can go on a rehab assignment and play some left field in the minors. When he gets back, maybe he and Nix can platoon in left field. Just a thought. (With a whole lot of ifs and maybes).

ChatterRed
05-01-2009, 02:47 AM
I have been a huge EE supporter the past 3 years, honestly believing that he was young and eventually come into his own.

I'm not as positive that will happen now.

I also like Rosales, and my opinion is that if Rosales flourishes............they need to give him the job and not chalk it up to some rookie luck or something stupid like that. This team needs offense, and Rosales is no worse (if not better) at defense than EE.

EE may have dug his own grave if he loses it to some rookie.

I like the idea of sending EE down to triple AAA to learn LF. I think that's a good idea.

scounts22
05-01-2009, 10:45 AM
I'm loving the energy of Rosales. Like all of you, I too hope he continues to shine. There's nothing better than watching a player like him succeed!

As for Nix, I believe he has earned the right to start. Every hitter has their flaws, but I would think with more at bats, he would hopefully get better. Of course, that could also completely backfire and he could never hit the broad side of a barn again. But, I have to think that his potential, at this level, would only go up.

ChatterRed
05-01-2009, 11:20 AM
The thing about Nix is you have to remember he is only 28 years old. He won't turn 29 until like Halloween. He came up to the majors at age 22. He's a former 4th round pick.

He's been hamped by injuries since 2005 including having major surgery for a torn labrum.

Built like a football player, he was the starting QB for his high school team, starring at two sports.

REDblooded
05-01-2009, 01:55 PM
I was huge on EE too... I thought he was going to move into David Wright territory, but unfortunately, it's not happening here. I think a change of scenery will be the boost he needs, and that's unfortunate, because that means he won't be having his success with the Reds.

To me, EE's problems aren't an issue of "not keeping his head in the game", but rather keeping it TOO much in the game. When he has to react quickly and just let instincts take over, he's great. It's when he has time to think about whats going on that he doubts himself.

smoke6
05-01-2009, 02:23 PM
I'm fully onboard with the Rosales bandwagon... IMO, he makes EE expendable, and a young 3b with a decent back like EE should net a decent return if the Reds were to trade him.

I hate to say this, but I agree. Rosales impressed me more in 1 game than EE has ever. EE will drop bombs here and there, but he gives away more runs than he produces. I'm looking forward to watching AR for the next 3 weeks.

schmidty622
05-01-2009, 02:34 PM
The team is already going to struggle to score, so might as well let Rosales hustle and play with energy, over EE doing whatever it is that EE does.

gedred69
05-01-2009, 10:30 PM
I was huge on EE too... I thought he was going to move into David Wright territory, but unfortunately, it's not happening here. I think a change of scenery will be the boost he needs, and that's unfortunate, because that means he won't be having his success with the Reds.

To me, EE's problems aren't an issue of "not keeping his head in the game", but rather keeping it TOO much in the game. When he has to react quickly and just let instincts take over, he's great. It's when he has time to think about whats going on that he doubts himself.

Well then, if this is the case, my comparison of EE to DD rings true. Too dumb to cut it.

Maldez
05-01-2009, 10:58 PM
I'm fully onboard with the Rosales bandwagon... IMO, he makes EE expendable, ....

Amen! Rosales has everything goin' for him that EE does not, and it's just a pleasure watching him play. On the other hand, watching EE mope around is such a down. Young Adam and his high-energy enthusiasm make great ingredients to supercharge a team up a couple notches.

RedStar101
05-02-2009, 01:45 AM
Rosales is the man, its awesome to see a fan favorite enjoy baseball so much. Even Marty and Jeff like the enthusiasm he plays with jokingly call him "Pete" Rosales. Hopefully he will continue to give the team the same enthusiasm (and batting %) throughout his time called up and can earn a real spot on the roster.

bgwilly31
05-03-2009, 05:39 PM
So how much of rosales kicking butt is it going to take.

Once EE 15 day DL is up. If rosales keeps this up EE needs to ride the pine.