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ChatterRed
05-02-2009, 11:38 AM
They're 17-7.

I was looking at their losses, and it's pretty impressive. They have been blown out only once, 10-3. Otherwise, they lost by 3 once, by 2 twice, and by 1 run three times. They are pretty much in every game. Interesting. They've held opponents to 2 or less runs 9 times, and 1 or less runs three times.

By comparison, the Reds have been blown out 10-2, 9-3, 7-0, 7-2, 10-2, and 8-3, that's 6 of their 10 losses. They've lost by 1 run twice, 2 runs once and 3 runs once. Kinda do or die for the Reds. But the Reds pitching staff has held opponents to 1 or less runs in 7 of their games. And they've held them to 2 or less runs in 10 of their games.

The Cards offense is 1st in the NL in batting average (.285), third in the NL in HR's (28), first in rbi, and second in OBP. Pretty impressive. Their pitching staff has the second best e.r.a. in the NL. Wow.

Okay, I'm impressed. At first I thought it was just a case of having some early hot hitting going on, but they seem to be the real deal. They have both pitching and hitting, where we just have the pitching.

jmac
05-02-2009, 11:58 AM
Pujols/Ludwick make an excellent 1-2 combo. Course Pujols/Phillips would be awesome as well as long as Pujols is half the combo:p:
Anyway, with guys like Duncan, Ludwick and now the Barton guy, they have an excellent offense.

Their pitching is the kind that doesnt scare you and yet, the Loshe's and Pinero's & Franklin's keep getting it done.
Carpentar is a Huge bonus if he can stay healthy.
While the cubs pitching appears better on paper, I think STL has the better offense and is better overall.

mroby85
05-02-2009, 12:25 PM
I'm still convinced the Cubs are the team to beat in this division. I don't really think they have a weakness anywhere on their team, while the jury is still out on the pitching for St. Louis. We're ahead of the Cubs right now, and if we stay ahead of them, I think we'll have a real nice season.

improbus
05-02-2009, 01:45 PM
I think their pitching is somewhat of a mirage. Their greatest strength is that they don't give up the long ball and they don't walk too many hitters. But, they have given up the most hits in NL and eventually that catches up to you.

LouisvilleCARDS
05-02-2009, 01:56 PM
They always pick up junk pitchers who have career years there as starters, its amazing. I wish we could get Dave Duncan as a pitching coach, whatever he does its crazy.

improbus
05-02-2009, 02:32 PM
They always pick up junk pitchers who have career years there as starters, its amazing. I wish we could get Dave Duncan as a pitching coach, whatever he does its crazy.

HGH factory?

Ghosts of 1990
05-02-2009, 08:17 PM
Mediocre on paper, but exceptional on the field as usual. Testament to LaRusa. Have the best hitter in baseball. They're legit and the team to beat in our division. All the other teams in our division including us I'm afraid are mediocre.

gedred69
05-03-2009, 04:20 PM
StL is the bomb,---as long as Pujols is there. I can't wait to see how the Reds pitching holds up against StL, and how the Reds bats perform against the Cards pitching.

bounty37h
05-04-2009, 10:59 AM
I hate em, they poop on my windshield, are too loud in the morning with their cute little chirping routine, and they are the state bird so you get in trouble if ya kill em.

Moosie52
05-04-2009, 11:18 AM
Lohse 4-0? :confused:

CRedsLarkin11
05-04-2009, 11:56 AM
Cubs are still the best team in the division but the Cardinals aren't going to just go away, the Reds will have to play extremely well to compete for the wild card

RedLakerFan24
05-04-2009, 12:08 PM
the pitching is going to cool off but they have a very good offense

$1 Hot Dog
05-04-2009, 12:37 PM
I think we might be getting to the Cardinals at a good time. They haven't cooled off all season yet. It is bound to happen soon and I can see that being the case by May 8th. I think we match up well with them because good pitching can beat good hitting any day of the week. I'm not worried about their pitching. They have a low E.R.A. only because they have been good at wiggling out of jams but they have let up the second most hits in the NL and we have let up the third fewest. If they are letting up hits and getting in trouble it's going to catch up to them soon.

Red in Atl
05-04-2009, 01:17 PM
I hate the Cardinals!!!

redssouth
05-04-2009, 02:11 PM
Im just too lazy to look, but what have they won games by? You cant judge run differential just by the games you lose. What are the difference in the games they win?

krm1580
05-04-2009, 02:11 PM
Based on yesterday's game results I believe....

Cardinals=Pujols+Smoke+Mirrors.

Newman4
05-04-2009, 02:37 PM
I hate the Cardinals!!!

I agree. That sums it up for me. There are very few things in life I hate more than the St. Louis Cardinals.

Kingspoint
05-04-2009, 03:09 PM
What do I think of the Cardinals?

The Cardinals are getting great pitching, and they have Albert Pujols.

xavr1
05-04-2009, 04:34 PM
Cardinals will find a way to stay neat the top in the Central as long as LaRussa and Pujols are there. That said, they dont have the pitching to keep this up. Everyone on their staff would have to have a career season for that to happen. And its not like their bats are stellar either. Ludwick and Duncan are the wild cards and they have been hot. But time will tell if it keeps up.

I agree with whoever said the Cubs are still the team to beat.

NastyBoy
05-04-2009, 07:32 PM
I is beginning to look like the wild card is going to come out of the central. Reds will have to beat the top teams in their division this year... including the cardinals, to have any shot at the playoffs this year.

foxfire123
05-06-2009, 08:56 PM
They always pick up junk pitchers who have career years there as starters, its amazing. I wish we could get Dave Duncan as a pitching coach, whatever he does its crazy.

It's called *drugs* sweetheart.

I'd dearly LOVE to see how many of the Cardinals players, especially pitchers, who are on that "legal" ADHD drug list.

We all know they threw Whiney Weaver on those drugs, it was announced in the St Louis paper. and look what happened with him. Then the legal list suddenly jumped from something like 23 to over 100 the next spring training.... I found it amazing the Weaver made it through Babe Ruth, high school, college, minor league ball, and how many ML teams *before* his alleged ADHD was "diagnosed". And look at Lohse. He crashed and burned with the Reds AND with the Phillies, yet is World Class with the Cardinals.

I fully admit I am completely biased. I want to and do expect the worst of the Cardinals all the time, I hate them with a complete and total passion. but even the people with the rosiest colored glasses have to admit that there was something fishy with Weaver, and very possibly Lohse.

jmac
05-12-2009, 08:03 PM
Listening to the Stl game on radio since Reds arent on yet and Ludwick just left game with what seems like a hamstring injury. He's some serious protection for Pujols !

OesterPoster
05-12-2009, 08:53 PM
Yeah, the game notes say Ludwick left with a strained hamstring. The Pie-rats are taking it to the Redbirds right now, 7-1. Of course, that lone run? A Pujols solo shot. Wellemeyer got crushed in 4 innings of work.

Ghosts of 1990
05-12-2009, 11:06 PM
Cardinals starting pitching doesn't really scare me. They needed Carpenter to be good for them and be an ace. He's on the DL of course. They're going to be in for a dogfight with someone in the central. Hopefully us.

Kingspoint
05-13-2009, 02:13 PM
What do I think of the Cardinals? Not much of the team, but they have bar none the best baseball fans in the world, and they also have a great stadium.

PhillipsHead
05-13-2009, 02:38 PM
What do I think of the Cardinals? Not much of the team, but they have bar none the best baseball fans in the world, and they also have a great stadium.

Sox and Cubs fans would beg to differ, but they're all just fags.

Go Reds!!!!!!!