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Red in Chicago
05-03-2009, 01:33 PM
Beautiful day here in Chicago, so I'll be watching this one on DVR tonight. Enjoy and bring us a victory!!

Cincinnati

W. Taveras cf
C. Dickerson lf
J. Votto 1b
B. Phillips 2b
J. Bruce rf
R. Hernandez c
A. Rosales 3b
A. Gonzalez ss
J. Cueto p

Pittsburgh

N. Morgan lf
F. Sanchez 2b
N. McLouth cf
A. LaRoche 1b
B. Moss rf
A. LaRoche 3b
J. Jaramillo c
B. Bixler ss
J. Karstens p

JaxRed
05-03-2009, 01:38 PM
I see today is another "find our stroke" day

Rounding Third
05-03-2009, 01:51 PM
Note from Fay:

Dusty Baker said he considered moving Rosales up to the second spot. "But somebody hitting down there is important too. You get a chance to drive in a lot of runs with two outs. Let's take it one step at a time. Initially I had him up there today.'

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I'm not even going to touch that...

OnBaseMachine
05-03-2009, 01:56 PM
Jeff Karstens is awful. Hopefully the Reds score plenty of runs against him...

_Sir_Charles_
05-03-2009, 02:05 PM
Jeff Karstens is awful. Hopefully the Reds score plenty of runs against him...

The Marlins beg to differ. http://sports.espn.go.com/mlb/boxscore?gameId=290421123

I think we'll score off him too, but he does have some skill on the mound.

membengal
05-03-2009, 02:16 PM
Not EVERY pitcher can be "good". 17 times in 23 games this year, the opposing pitcher has a quality start against the Reds. I am sorry, but they have to find a way to score runs off the Jeff Karstens of the world...

forfreelin04
05-03-2009, 02:17 PM
Not EVERY pitcher can be "good". 17 times in 23 games this year, the opposing pitcher has a quality start against the Reds. I am sorry, but they have to find a way to score runs off the Jeff Karstens of the world...

They might not have to score many off Karstens because of the way Cueto's been pitching.

membengal
05-03-2009, 02:29 PM
Right. But they need to. This team has to find a stride where they do some damage early. They can't always count on their starters being nails. Starters will have off-days themselves, for the Reds. The offense has to be there to cover those times, on occasion.

forfreelin04
05-03-2009, 02:34 PM
Right. But they need to. This team has to find a stride where they do some damage early. They can't always count on their starters being nails. Starters will have off-days themselves, for the Reds. The offense has to be there to cover those times, on occasion.

They scored 6 runs and had 14 hits yesterday. Sounds like a good start to this striding you speak of. I'll take 6 runs and 14 hits today!

membengal
05-03-2009, 02:35 PM
For those of you non-DirecTV folks, are you getting these games on HD? I don't know that one of the last five or six has been on HD for DirecTV users. George made some cryptic apology for "some users" not getting the game in HD last night, but gave no context.

There have been a majority of these in non-HD for me this year, which is weird. I have the baseball package, and can tell you that HD is pretty much the standard for almost every other team...

membengal
05-03-2009, 02:36 PM
They scored 6 runs and had 14 hits yesterday. Sounds like a good start to this striding you speak of. I'll take 6 runs and 14 hits today!

Yes. They did.

But three of those were late (better late than never). Ohlendorf still had a quality start. 17 for 23.

forfreelin04
05-03-2009, 02:36 PM
For what its worth, there are now only 2 hitters in the Reds lineup who are batting under the Mendoza line. Phillips at .192 and Gonzo at .197.

nate
05-03-2009, 02:36 PM
No HD here.

nate
05-03-2009, 02:37 PM
Chat is open.

Reds Fanatic
05-03-2009, 02:38 PM
Taveras flies out to center. 1 out.

Reds Fanatic
05-03-2009, 02:39 PM
For those of you non-DirecTV folks, are you getting these games on HD? I don't know that one of the last five or six has been on HD for DirecTV users. George made some cryptic apology for "some users" not getting the game in HD last night, but gave no context.

There have been a majority of these in non-HD for me this year, which is weird. I have the baseball package, and can tell you that HD is pretty much the standard for almost every other team...

I have Directv and they have been on HD most of this week for me. Today is not in HD though.

jojo
05-03-2009, 02:40 PM
I'd like to humbly request that the mods make the first guy to concede this game before the final out have to change his avatar to hello kitty for a week.

Reds Fanatic
05-03-2009, 02:40 PM
Dickerson walks.

NC Reds
05-03-2009, 02:40 PM
Dickie draws a walk. Here's Joey.

_Sir_Charles_
05-03-2009, 02:40 PM
Dickerson walks. Reds working the counts nicely so far. 7 pitch ab from Willy too. Good sign early on.

membengal
05-03-2009, 02:40 PM
Were they last night? They were supposed to be here, and it was "ghosted" out for me. And, yes, my equipment is current...

_Sir_Charles_
05-03-2009, 02:40 PM
I'd like to humbly request that the mods make the first guy to conceding this game before the final out have to change his avatar to hello kitty for a week.

LOL! Seconded! :O)

jojo
05-03-2009, 02:44 PM
Dickerson proving that baseball is a game of inches on that throw to first....

Reds Fanatic
05-03-2009, 02:45 PM
Votto flies out to the warning track in left center. 2 outs.

NC Reds
05-03-2009, 02:45 PM
Votto gave that one a ride. Close. Two out.

_Sir_Charles_
05-03-2009, 02:45 PM
Did I just hear the Cowboy explaining what OPS is? hehe.

Votto with a long drive...caught at the wall. Close.

Reds Fanatic
05-03-2009, 02:45 PM
Were they last night? They were supposed to be here, and it was "ghosted" out for me. And, yes, my equipment is current...Last night I am not sure about. I was not home for that one. I know they were on Friday night.

Reds Fanatic
05-03-2009, 02:47 PM
Phillips grounds into a 6-4 FC. 0-0 mid 1st.

_Sir_Charles_
05-03-2009, 02:48 PM
Jeez, do tosses over to first count towards your pitch count? They should.

Phillips grounds out to end the inning.

nate
05-03-2009, 02:48 PM
BP is digging a trench with batted balls to SS.

forfreelin04
05-03-2009, 02:48 PM
Top of 1st.

Jeff Karstens starting today for the Buccos.

Willy T works the count 3-2. He flies to McClouth in center. 1 out

Dickerson works the count 3-1. Walks on the fifth pitch. Karstens thrown alot of balls out of the zone already.

On the 2-0 pitch, Votto hits the ball down the RF line squarely but foul. Karsten throws to 1st and almost gets Dickerson who didn't dive back like he should have.
Votto takes strikes 2 while walking to 1st. Come backs for 3-2. Joey flies to Morgan in LF a step on the warning track. 2 out

Phillips grounds to SS who flips to second. 3 out.

(Wasted opportunity for a steal there)

After a 1/2, Reds 0 Pirates coming to bat.

VR
05-03-2009, 02:48 PM
Outside pitch grounded out to short. I wonder if any pitcher will ever thrown a pitch middle/in to Phillips again? If they do, they should be demoted on the spot.

jojo
05-03-2009, 02:50 PM
Somehow Karstens escaped the Nats greedy clutches. Bowden must've been fixated on outfielders that day....

nate
05-03-2009, 02:50 PM
Outside pitch grounded out to short. I wonder if any pitcher will ever thrown a pitch middle/in to Phillips again? If they do, they should be demoted on the spot.

Or be forced to change their gameday pic to a "Hello, Kitty" avatar.

Reds Fanatic
05-03-2009, 02:51 PM
Morgan singles to center.

_Sir_Charles_
05-03-2009, 02:51 PM
Morgan leads off with a single up the middle. Cueto grooved that one right down the middle.

nate
05-03-2009, 02:51 PM
I think I've only ever seen Nyjer Morgan get out once.

nate
05-03-2009, 02:52 PM
OK, twice now.

Reds Fanatic
05-03-2009, 02:52 PM
Cueto catches Morgan trying to steal 2nd. 1 out.

_Sir_Charles_
05-03-2009, 02:52 PM
Nyjer picked off! Nice job Cueto.

NC Reds
05-03-2009, 02:52 PM
Morgan gets caught stealing. I like to call that stat a "Dusty."

jojo
05-03-2009, 02:53 PM
In case anyone is wondering, Cueto's BMI is 28.8.....

Reds Fanatic
05-03-2009, 02:54 PM
Sanchez strikes out swinging. 2 outs.

_Sir_Charles_
05-03-2009, 02:54 PM
First change up I've seen from Johnny today....delivers him a K. 2 down.

K

_Sir_Charles_
05-03-2009, 02:55 PM
In case anyone is wondering, Cueto's BMI is 28.8.....

I'm really not sure I want to know how you found that one out. Does Cueto have a restraining order out on you? :O)

_Sir_Charles_
05-03-2009, 02:56 PM
K number 2. 3 up 3 down...the hard way. :O)

Reds Fanatic
05-03-2009, 02:56 PM
McLouth strikes out swinging. 0-0 after 1.

nate
05-03-2009, 02:57 PM
I'm really not sure I want to know how you found that one out. Does Cueto have a restraining order out on you? :O)

I think jojo and JC play "Wii Fit" together.

Tony Cloninger
05-03-2009, 02:57 PM
Ball is carrying more today....that drive by Votto was not as good as it looked. The Taveras drive was hit better but it was really Ball 4.

No sense in hitting long flyballs to the OF beacuse they catch everything....how about sharp line drives?

VR
05-03-2009, 02:57 PM
Glad to see the k.....but Johnny's gotta pound the strike zone with more regularity. Going 1-2-3 is good, but taking 20 pitches to do it, not so good.

forfreelin04
05-03-2009, 02:57 PM
Bottom of 1st:

Morgan (Reds Killa) leads off the game with a single.

Cueto picks off Morgan. 1-4 1 out. Big play there.

Sanchez (Da Mole) K's swinging. 2 out

Johnny works back from 3-1 to K McClouth swinging. 3 out
After 1, Reds 0 Pirates 0. out.
=

_Sir_Charles_
05-03-2009, 02:58 PM
Anybody else notice how down our pitchers' strikeout totals are this year? I think everybody's noticed the rise in walks, but the K's being down as much as they are really surprised me.

jojo
05-03-2009, 02:58 PM
I'm really not sure I want to know how you found that one out. Does Cueto have a restraining order out on you? :O)

The Pirates broadcast team felt compelled to share that Cueto is 5'10" and 201 lbs....

Hoosier Red
05-03-2009, 02:59 PM
"Just like Barry Larkin, McClouth grew up in Michigan,"
"Just like Larkin, McClouth had a full ride scholarship to go to Michigan, decided on professional baseball instead"

HUH?

Larkin grew up in Cincy, went to MOELLER, and then accepted the scholarship to play at Michigan.

NC Reds
05-03-2009, 03:00 PM
Bruuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuce.

Reds Fanatic
05-03-2009, 03:00 PM
Bruce homers to right. 1-0 Reds!!

_Sir_Charles_
05-03-2009, 03:00 PM
The Pirates broadcast team felt compelled to share that Cueto is 5'10" and 201 lbs....

Nice recovery. I'll still be picturing you stalking Cueto though. Hope you don't mind.


BRUUUUUUUUCE!!!! :jump: 1-0 Redlegs. Simply CRUSHED it!

nate
05-03-2009, 03:00 PM
BRUCE!!! HR!

nate
05-03-2009, 03:01 PM
Whoa, Bruce had some fancy hand moves with EV in the dugout.

Big Klu
05-03-2009, 03:01 PM
"The Jay Bird"?! C'mon, George. Even you are better than that!

Reds Fanatic
05-03-2009, 03:01 PM
Hernandez doubles to left center.

NC Reds
05-03-2009, 03:02 PM
Ramon whacks a double. Rosie time.

nate
05-03-2009, 03:02 PM
Ramon with a double. Nice.

jojo
05-03-2009, 03:02 PM
The decision to pitch Karsten today was the earthquake on the deep ocean floor and the Reds are the tsunami....

_Sir_Charles_
05-03-2009, 03:02 PM
Okay, I'd say we brought our bats out today. Ramon drills a double to the wall. We're getting REALLY good contact off Karstens.

jojo
05-03-2009, 03:03 PM
Nice recovery. I'll still be picturing you stalking Cueto though. Hope you don't mind.


BRUUUUUUUUCE!!!! :jump: 1-0 Redlegs. Simply CRUSHED it!

I do know this....after EV's off season video...i'd be afraid to stalk him...

WVRedsFan
05-03-2009, 03:03 PM
For those of you non-DirecTV folks, are you getting these games on HD? I don't know that one of the last five or six has been on HD for DirecTV users. George made some cryptic apology for "some users" not getting the game in HD last night, but gave no context.

There have been a majority of these in non-HD for me this year, which is weird. I have the baseball package, and can tell you that HD is pretty much the standard for almost every other team...Late to this...

I am apalled at the lack of HD for Reds games. FS Pittsburgh had Friday and Saturday in HD. If they can do this in Pittsburgh, why not in Cincinnati, especially if the HD cameras are in the same stadium?

Probably costs more to the Reds to show games in HD...

Reds Fanatic
05-03-2009, 03:04 PM
Rosales fouls out to 1st. 1 out

Tony Cloninger
05-03-2009, 03:04 PM
Rosales swing makes for a lot of bloopers and pop ups to the right side.

He swung at a boderline pitch.

membengal
05-03-2009, 03:05 PM
Not making excuses for Rosales, but it sure looked to me like he was working overtime to try and hit the ball to the right side. Given that he was up 3-1 in the count, I would have been happier to see him just try and make solid contact...

Reds Fanatic
05-03-2009, 03:06 PM
Gonzalez grounds out to 3rd. 2 out.

Tony Cloninger
05-03-2009, 03:07 PM
I have the get 'em on ...get 'em over....GG drone in my head...but right now i would be more than happy if they could have done that.

Reds Fanatic
05-03-2009, 03:08 PM
Cueto strikes out swinging. Hernandez is left stranded on 2nd. 1-0 Reds mid 2nd.

forfreelin04
05-03-2009, 03:09 PM
Top of 2:

Bruce hits a no doubter on a 2-1 pitch (Ten Rows back over the scoreboard in Right Field)

Hernandez doubles in the gap in Left on the first pitch.

Rosales pops to Adam LaRoche in foul ground. 1 out

Gonzo grounds to the Brothers Laroche. Hernandez stays at second. 2 out.

Cueto K's swinging on a bad curve. 3 out

(Chance for a big inning swallowed up by the dregs of 7, 8, 9)

After 1 and a 1/2, Reds 1 Pirates 0.

_Sir_Charles_
05-03-2009, 03:10 PM
Do I have to take the Hello Kitty avatar if I say that a 1-0 lead is enough for Cueto and that this game is over? Or if it's just the pessimistic POV that takes it? :O)

11larkin11
05-03-2009, 03:10 PM
Wrong Thread

remdog
05-03-2009, 03:12 PM
I posted this elswhere but I think Jay Bruce will be a MONSTER by the second half of the season.

He's getting comfortable, learning more and more how to approach AB's in general and AB's against particular pitchers and he's willing to look, listen and learn.

Great approach.

Rem

_Sir_Charles_
05-03-2009, 03:12 PM
Come on Johnny! Throw strikes. Make these guys beat you. I want a walk free game!

jojo
05-03-2009, 03:12 PM
Do I have to take the Hello Kitty avatar if I say that a 1-0 lead is enough for Cueto and that this game is over? Or if it's just the pessimistic POV that takes it? :O)

No but if you jinx Cueto, you have to change your avatar to the Cub's logo.

Reds Fanatic
05-03-2009, 03:12 PM
Cueto got behind 3-0 on LaRoche and recovers to strike him out swinging. 3 Ks in a row.

_Sir_Charles_
05-03-2009, 03:12 PM
Comes back with the strikeout! 3 in a row now. Nice. Keep it rollin'.

Reds Fanatic
05-03-2009, 03:13 PM
Moss flies out to left. 2 outs.

_Sir_Charles_
05-03-2009, 03:13 PM
No but if you jinx Cueto, you have to change your avatar to the Cub's logo.

Okay, that's not cool. *searches around for a delete post button*

Reds Fanatic
05-03-2009, 03:14 PM
An. LaRoche with an infield hit.

_Sir_Charles_
05-03-2009, 03:14 PM
Infield hit off Gonzo's mitt. Almost. If he'd gotten it cleanly it still would've been a tough play. That's a single without a doubt.

_Sir_Charles_
05-03-2009, 03:16 PM
He needs to stop getting behind the hitters. That's a bad habit to start. Get ahead and get those hitters off balance early.

nate
05-03-2009, 03:16 PM
WHAT A PLAY by GONZO!

membengal
05-03-2009, 03:16 PM
Now THAT makes up for Alex G not making the play on LaRoche. Solid.

NC Reds
05-03-2009, 03:16 PM
Terrific play by Alex.

_Sir_Charles_
05-03-2009, 03:16 PM
WOW. Great snag by Gonzo! I thought that was going to drop for a single for sure. Nice play.

Reds Fanatic
05-03-2009, 03:17 PM
Nice play by Gonzalez on the popup by Jaramillo. 1-0 Reds after 2.

forfreelin04
05-03-2009, 03:18 PM
Bottom of 2:

Cueto falls behind Adam Laroche 3-0. Works back to 3-2. Then K's him swinging. Nasty. 1 out

Moss flies to Dickerson in left. 2 out

The other Laroche smashes a grounder to the right of AGON who can't backhand it. Ruled a hit. Play should have been made.

Jamarillo up. Cueto works back to 3-2. JJ flares it over AGONS head who makes an acrobatic play to reach out and catch the ball. Great play. 3 out.

After a full 2, Reds 1 Pirates 0.

jojo
05-03-2009, 03:18 PM
WHAT A PLAY by GONZO!

Yep but I think he pulled a few muscles that he didn't know he had though...

11larkin11
05-03-2009, 03:19 PM
STEAL TAVERAS!

nate
05-03-2009, 03:19 PM
Willy T leads off with a single.

Reds Fanatic
05-03-2009, 03:19 PM
Taveras singles to left.

_Sir_Charles_
05-03-2009, 03:19 PM
Willy T leads off with a single. Alright, let's turn that into a double!

membengal
05-03-2009, 03:19 PM
I really want to see Willy T attempting steals at a higher rate than he has been. With the RHer on the mound, now is a choice time to go after second.

Reds Fanatic
05-03-2009, 03:21 PM
Taveras is caught stealing.

_Sir_Charles_
05-03-2009, 03:21 PM
Crud. Thrown out trying to steal second. Nice throw. Durnit! 5 for 6 now in the swipe dept.

membengal
05-03-2009, 03:21 PM
Bad lead and late break will lead to that though. Ah well. Still, he needs to push it to maximize his effectiveness.

WVRedsFan
05-03-2009, 03:22 PM
I really want to see Willy T attempting steals at a higher rate than he has been. With the RHer on the mound, now is a choice time to go after second.

Or it can be a rally killer or non-starter. He looked like he got in there before the tag anyway, but I'm blind.

Reds Fanatic
05-03-2009, 03:22 PM
Dickerson walks for the 2nd time today.

_Sir_Charles_
05-03-2009, 03:23 PM
Dickerson shows some MORE patience and draws his second BB of the day.

nate
05-03-2009, 03:23 PM
Or it can be a rally killer or non-starter. He looked like he got in there before the tag anyway, but I'm blind.

I thought so too.

membengal
05-03-2009, 03:23 PM
The Reds are trying to facilitate Reds fans hooking up? Weird.

membengal
05-03-2009, 03:24 PM
Or it can be a rally killer or non-starter. He looked like he got in there before the tag anyway, but I'm blind.

He has to run to maximize who he is. That was only his sixth steal attempt of the season...

VR
05-03-2009, 03:24 PM
Even in ST, the Reds didn't have their legs under them. I'm surprised by the lack of consistent pressure the 1/2 hitters have applied to the opponents when they are on base. Cruddy leads, late jumps, pick offs. Is the coaching off this year? I thought they'd be runnin and gunnin a LOT more.

remdog
05-03-2009, 03:27 PM
He has to run to maximize who he is. That was only his sixth steal attempt of the season...

But, but, but....Willie said his goal was to steal 100 bases this year....!!!

Rem

WVRedsFan
05-03-2009, 03:28 PM
He has to run to maximize who he is. That was only his sixth steal attempt of the season...

Agreed, but not when you don't have an adequate lead. Like I said, he looked safe to me. Sometimes I think umpires guess at that anyway.

JaxRed
05-03-2009, 03:28 PM
"I have Directv and they have been on HD most of this week for me. Today is not in HD though."

It is on 728-1

Reds Fanatic
05-03-2009, 03:30 PM
Great AB by Votto as he walks. 1st and 2nd.

Blitz Dorsey
05-03-2009, 03:30 PM
Well, here comes a double play.

_Sir_Charles_
05-03-2009, 03:30 PM
Karstens is paying a TON of attention to Reds baserunners. That's gonna come back and bite him in the butt.

And it does in the form of a walk to Votto. 1st & 2nd with one out.

remdog
05-03-2009, 03:30 PM
Karstens seems to have an inordinate fascination with Dickerson.

Rem

membengal
05-03-2009, 03:30 PM
"I have Directv and they have been on HD most of this week for me. Today is not in HD though."

It is on 728-1

Ah, I am not able to get that because I am in "Reds country" here in Memphis, so HD on opposing teams' broadcasts doesn't help me. Either I get it in HD because FSN Ohio has it in HD or I don't.

And FSN Ohio has NOT been in HD much this year with the Reds games. At. all.

nate
05-03-2009, 03:31 PM
Hey, I just noticed the DirecTV has this score guide thing when you press the red button. All the scores popup and you can select a game to watch it. It's like...2003 or something!

NC Reds
05-03-2009, 03:31 PM
Two straight walks. Phillips swings at first pitch anyway. Nice.

WVRedsFan
05-03-2009, 03:31 PM
"I have Directv and they have been on HD most of this week for me. Today is not in HD though."

It is on 728-1

Thanks, Jax. Looks like HD to me. Plus the picture quality is miles ahead of what FSC is. It's the Pirate feed and once again, why can the Pirates do this and not the Reds?

VR
05-03-2009, 03:31 PM
Joey saw that ab

Cutter
fastball
changeup
slider
fastball
changeup
fastball
curveball
changeup

wow.

Blitz Dorsey
05-03-2009, 03:32 PM
Karstens seems to have an inordinate fascination with Dickerson.

Rem

Chris is a good looking man.

Reds Fanatic
05-03-2009, 03:32 PM
Hey, I just noticed the DirecTV has this score guide thing when you press the red button. All the scores popup and you can select a game to watch it. It's like...2003 or something!
That Scoreguide is a new feature they just started about a week ago.

Blitz Dorsey
05-03-2009, 03:32 PM
You know BP is going bad when you're just relieved he didn't go 6-4-3 on us.

membengal
05-03-2009, 03:32 PM
Crikey, Brandon.

DUSTY! Bruce clean-up against righties. Goodness.

Reds Fanatic
05-03-2009, 03:32 PM
Phillips pops out to 3rd. 2 outs.

_Sir_Charles_
05-03-2009, 03:32 PM
Pop up in the infield. 2 down.

jojo
05-03-2009, 03:32 PM
It doesn't count unless it's hit over the wall...

nate
05-03-2009, 03:33 PM
BP is really in a hitting funk.

VR
05-03-2009, 03:33 PM
Popup, and I'm excited about that from Phillips.

WVRedsFan
05-03-2009, 03:33 PM
Hey, I just noticed the DirecTV has this score guide thing when you press the red button. All the scores popup and you can select a game to watch it. It's like...2003 or something!

Another great tip. Wow, the difference in HD and regular is dramatic.

nate
05-03-2009, 03:34 PM
Bruce works the walk.

remdog
05-03-2009, 03:34 PM
You know BP is going bad when you're just relieved he didn't go 6-4-3 on us.

:lol: Yep.

Rem

_Sir_Charles_
05-03-2009, 03:35 PM
The Bruce draws the walk. Bases jacked for Ramon.

Reds Fanatic
05-03-2009, 03:35 PM
Bruce walks. The 3rd walk of the inning. Hernandez up with the bases loaded.

remdog
05-03-2009, 03:36 PM
It would be real nice if Ramon repeated his previous AB right here.

Rem

_Sir_Charles_
05-03-2009, 03:38 PM
Bases clearing shot to the wall! 3 runs score, but Hernandez is gunned down at second. Way to come through Ramon!

Reds Fanatic
05-03-2009, 03:38 PM
Hernandez singles to the wall in right. 3 runs score! Hernandez is thrown out at 2nd. 4-0 Reds mid 3rd.

NC Reds
05-03-2009, 03:38 PM
Great job by Ramon. Phillips gets like a hockey assist or something for not grounding into a double play to end the inning.

WVRedsFan
05-03-2009, 03:38 PM
He did, but he makes Sean Casey look like a speedster.

jojo
05-03-2009, 03:38 PM
The Pirates don't think much of Ramon's bat speed....

membengal
05-03-2009, 03:38 PM
Weird base-running by Ramon, but I like the runs.

No quality start for Karstens today. Reds have done what they should have done to that guy.

Nice.

CrackerJack
05-03-2009, 03:38 PM
Nice, he makes up for that AB in the ninth last night with a 3 run double to right, out at 2nd after the cut-off

New Fever
05-03-2009, 03:39 PM
Ah, I am not able to get that because I am in "Reds country" here in Memphis, so HD on opposing teams' broadcasts doesn't help me. Either I get it in HD because FSN Ohio has it in HD or I don't.

And FSN Ohio has NOT been in HD much this year with the Reds games. At. all.

I have had the last two games in HD here in Memphis.

OUReds
05-03-2009, 03:39 PM
Ok, I'm NOT complaining, but how do you hit a ball over the RFers head to the wall, have the throw go 9/10ths of the way to home plate, and get thrown out at 2nd?

Is Ramon Hernandez the slowest person on the face of the earth?

forfreelin04
05-03-2009, 03:39 PM
Top of 3:

Willy T singles in the hole between 3rd and SS.

Willy T is caught stealing. Great throw by Jaramillo. Poor jump by WT. 1 out

Dickerson walks again. Nice day so far for CD.

Votto tries to one up Bruce but comes up empty on strike 1.
Dickerson goes on the 2-2. Votto fouls the pitch off. CD had that bag stolen.(Happened twice)
Votto is really battling, 3-2 count. Walks!

(Replay looks like Willy was safe BTW)

Good time for a Phillips. BP pops to 3rd in fair territory. Infield fly rule, catch is made anyway. 2 out.

Bruce walks. Nothing real close. Bases jucied for the Razor Ramon.

Ramon takes a close 1-2 pitch. 2-2. Ramon hits one over Moss in right field. Scores 3 but is 9-2-6 out on the relay. Ramon is slow people. 3 out

After 2 and 1/2, Reds 4 Pirates 0.

RedsManRick
05-03-2009, 03:41 PM
It's good to see the double, but there's no way this team can produce enough offensively in the long run if it continues to make as many outs on the bases that it has thus far this season.

Reds Fanatic
05-03-2009, 03:41 PM
Bixler strikes out swinging. 1 out. 4 Ks.

_Sir_Charles_
05-03-2009, 03:41 PM
Ok, I'm NOT complaining, but how do you hit a ball over the RFers head to the wall, have the throw go 9/10ths of the way to home plate, and get thrown out at 2nd?

Is Ramon Hernandez the slowest person on the face of the earth?

Yeah, probably, but who cares. He's smoked the ball both times up. He's not in there for his wheels.

nate
05-03-2009, 03:41 PM
It looks like he was held up at first.

lollipopcurve
05-03-2009, 03:42 PM
The Pirates don't think much of Ramon's bat speed....

I see no evidence of that. Not like Karstens is trying to pump fastballs by him pitch after pitch.

Hernandez is a skilled opposite-field hitter. Defense should shade him that way.

VR
05-03-2009, 03:42 PM
Ramon has made it fairly convincing with a large amount of patient at bats that he should be hitting between Votto and Bruce until further notice.

remdog
05-03-2009, 03:43 PM
Ramon didn't quite duplicate his previous AB but it was close enough! :clap:

I'll take it!

Rem

lollipopcurve
05-03-2009, 03:43 PM
It's good to see the double, but there's no way this team can produce enough offensively in the long run if it continues to make as many outs on the bases that it has thus far this season.

The team needs to be aggressive on the bases.

Reds Fanatic
05-03-2009, 03:43 PM
Karstens strikes out looking. 5 Ks. 2 outs.

_Sir_Charles_
05-03-2009, 03:43 PM
Strike out #5!

He got squeezed a bit on that AB too. That first pitch was a strike (so was the 4th I think).

WVRedsFan
05-03-2009, 03:44 PM
It's good to see the double, but there's no way this team can produce enough offensively in the long run if it continues to make as many outs on the bases that it has thus far this season.

Totally agree, but even in HD, it looked like to me that Hatcher held him up at first and he was faced with indecision after the ball went over Moss' head. There should have been no indecision with 2 outs. Of course he is s-l-o-w.

membengal
05-03-2009, 03:44 PM
I see no evidence of that. Not like Karstens is trying to pump fastballs by him pitch after pitch.

Hernandez is a skilled opposite-field hitter. Defense should shade him that way.

Agree with this. Ramon is indeed no slouch as a hitter, and makes good consistent contact. Further, unlike a few of his teammates, he understands that the opposite field can be his friend.

And I agree with VR, Ramon is the best candidate for clean-up at this point if Dusty continues to maintain that Votto and Bruce need to be split up...

SMcGavin
05-03-2009, 03:44 PM
Strike out #5!

He got squeezed a bit on that AB too. That first pitch was a strike (so was the 4th I think).

Gameday agrees on both of them.

VR
05-03-2009, 03:44 PM
Again Johnny, nice K on the pitcher....but taking 7 pitches to do so ain't so good.

Reds Fanatic
05-03-2009, 03:44 PM
Morgan walks.

OUReds
05-03-2009, 03:45 PM
Yeah, probably, but who cares. He's smoked the ball both times up. He's not in there for his wheels.

LOL ya think?

WVRedsFan
05-03-2009, 03:45 PM
You know, Cueto amazes me. How many 3-0 counts has he had only to try to throw 3 straight strikes?

_Sir_Charles_
05-03-2009, 03:45 PM
A walk to Morgan. The ump's not going to give Johnny that strike at the top of the zone. Best keep it down then.

jojo
05-03-2009, 03:45 PM
I see no evidence of that. Not like Karstens is trying to pump fastballs by him pitch after pitch.

Hernandez is a skilled opposite-field hitter. Defense should shade him that way.

Lighten up, it was a joke given Morgan was basically playing CF and Karsten couldn't challenge bat speed in my daughter's softball league.

Reds Fanatic
05-03-2009, 03:46 PM
Sanchez flies out to center. 4-0 Reds after 3.

forfreelin04
05-03-2009, 03:46 PM
Bottom of 3:

Bixler K's swinging. 4 K's for Cueto so far. 1 out

Cueto goes full on Karstens. K's him looking. 2 out
(1 + 4 = 5 K's now for Cueto)

Cueto goes 3-0 on Morgan. 3-1 and he walks. (Reds Killa lite)

Sanchez flies to WT in center. 3 out.

(Could be a good day for the Pythag with Cueto on the mound)

After 3 full, Reds 4 Pirates 0.

VR
05-03-2009, 03:46 PM
Nice recovery....JC needs a couple 10-12 pitch innings to be able to last 7 today.

_Sir_Charles_
05-03-2009, 03:47 PM
You know, Cueto amazes me. How many 3-0 counts has he had only to try to throw 3 straight strikes?

Exactly. He REALLY needs to start getting ahead of the hitters. Even though he's throwing well, he won't last long due to his pitch count. POUND the zone!!!

jojo
05-03-2009, 03:47 PM
PNC is a beautiful park.

remdog
05-03-2009, 03:47 PM
Karstens @ 70 pitches. Kind of hate to see that. I'd like him to stay in the game longer. ;)

Rem

Reds Fanatic
05-03-2009, 03:48 PM
Rosales flies out to center on the 1st pitch.

Reds Fanatic
05-03-2009, 03:48 PM
Gonzalez grounds out to 3rd. 2 outs.

HokieRed
05-03-2009, 03:49 PM
Funny, MILB scoreboard showing Pirates with 2 in bottom of the3rd.

Reds Fanatic
05-03-2009, 03:50 PM
Cueto flies out to center. 4-0 Reds mid 4th.

Gallen5862
05-03-2009, 03:51 PM
Let's go Reds. Great job so far. Great inning summaries makes it easy to follow the game thread.

forfreelin04
05-03-2009, 03:51 PM
Top of 4:

Rosales almost beats the Pirates broadcast back to the commercial break. Flies to center on the 1st pitch. 1 out

Gonzo grounds into the Brothers LaRoche. 2 out.

Cueto tries to bunt and misses horribly on the curve. Cueto then flies to shallow center. 3 out.

Good (get your confidence back) inning for Karstens.

After 3 and 1/2, Reds 4 Pirates 0.

Tony Cloninger
05-03-2009, 03:52 PM
Bad AB's by Rosales today. AG....is there even a point in getting into his AB's any longer?

jojo
05-03-2009, 03:53 PM
Cueto at 54 pitches heading onto the bottom of the 4th...he's missed the zone alot today but has 5 Ks and 1 BB.

Reds Fanatic
05-03-2009, 03:54 PM
McClouth strikes out swinging. 6 Ks. 1 out.

OUReds
05-03-2009, 03:54 PM
Cueto at 54 pitches heading onto the bottom of the 4th...he's missed the zone alot today but has 5 Ks and 1 BB.

That's 18 pitches an inning, which puts him solidly through 6. Not terrible.

WVRedsFan
05-03-2009, 03:54 PM
Bad AB's by Rosales today. AG....is there even a point in getting into his AB's any longer?
IIRC, he's alway had bad at bats most of the time throughtout his career. One of the many reasons that giving him that fat contract was loathed by many.

RedsManRick
05-03-2009, 03:55 PM
The team needs to be aggressive on the bases.

Aggressive is fine if it's applied intelligently and results in a net accumulation of bases. If applied indiscriminantly it results in too many outs and fewer runs scored. I have no problem with aggressive base running as a general philosophy, but this team needs to execute it better.

Reds Fanatic
05-03-2009, 03:55 PM
Great play by Phillips!

nate
05-03-2009, 03:55 PM
Nice play by BP and Votto!

_Sir_Charles_
05-03-2009, 03:55 PM
Nice play by Brandon.

I thought that hit Cueto at first. Looks like it missed him though.

membengal
05-03-2009, 03:55 PM
Glad Cueto isn't dead. Glad to see Phillips remind why he won a gold glove last year.

WVRedsFan
05-03-2009, 03:56 PM
Good inning by Cueto

Reds Fanatic
05-03-2009, 03:56 PM
Moss grounds out to 1st. 4-0 Reds after 4.

membengal
05-03-2009, 03:57 PM
Lower pitch count inning for Cueto there, which is a bonus.

He's just flat nasty today in general.

forfreelin04
05-03-2009, 03:57 PM
Bottom of 4:

McClouth has no answer for Cueto. K's swinging. 1 out. (6 for Cueto)

Adam Laroche grounds to a backhanding and jumping Phillips who throws to a scooping Votto. Great plays made easy folks. 2 out

Moss grounds to Votto who underhands to Cueto 3 out.

(Johnny is rolling along)

After a full 4, Reds 4 Pirates 0.

_Sir_Charles_
05-03-2009, 03:57 PM
Another solid inning from Cueto 1-2-3. Great to see this from our young gun. I thought he'd take a big step forward this season, but this is even better than I'd thought. I love it!

4-0 Redlegs after 4.

Reds Fanatic
05-03-2009, 03:59 PM
Taveras grounds out to 3rd on the first pitch.

_Sir_Charles_
05-03-2009, 03:59 PM
Be honest, who really thought they'd see a sub 2.00 era from Cueto after 5 starts? Really impressive.

Hoosier Red
05-03-2009, 04:01 PM
Man this game seems to be going slow.
I can't believe its only the fifth.
I blame Karstens who acts as if Dickerson is going to steal home from first.

BCubb2003
05-03-2009, 04:01 PM
Aggressive is fine if it's applied intelligently and results in a net accumulation of bases. If applied indiscriminantly it results in too many outs and fewer runs scored. I have no problem with aggressive base running as a general philosophy, but this team needs to execute it better.

Cautious aggression is what we're looking for. Rather than aggressive caution.

Reds Fanatic
05-03-2009, 04:01 PM
Dickerson grounds out to 3rd. 2 outs.

_Sir_Charles_
05-03-2009, 04:02 PM
Karsten's starting to get into a rhythm. Shatter it Joey!

Reds Fanatic
05-03-2009, 04:03 PM
Votto lines a single to center.

_Sir_Charles_
05-03-2009, 04:03 PM
Sharp single for Votto. He thought about 2 for a second there. Good decision to stop there.

Reds Fanatic
05-03-2009, 04:04 PM
Wild pitch moves Votto to 2nd.

_Sir_Charles_
05-03-2009, 04:04 PM
Passed ball/Wild pitch moves Votto to second. Ruled passed ball.

Tony Cloninger
05-03-2009, 04:04 PM
Why are they swinging at 1st pitches? Do they think this pitcher will try to throw more strikes beacuse he was not before.

Reds Fanatic
05-03-2009, 04:05 PM
Phillips singles to left. 5-0 Reds!

nate
05-03-2009, 04:05 PM
Nice single for BP. Votto scores.

_Sir_Charles_
05-03-2009, 04:05 PM
Solid single for Brandon that scores Votto!!! 5-0 good guys!

WVRedsFan
05-03-2009, 04:05 PM
Phillips with a clutch hit.
Strange.

membengal
05-03-2009, 04:05 PM
Good at-bat Brandon.

Nice to see.

Reds Fanatic
05-03-2009, 04:06 PM
Bruce flies out to right. 5-0 Reds mid 5th.

_Sir_Charles_
05-03-2009, 04:06 PM
Bruce lines out solidly to end the inning. Since sitting out for that Houston series, Jay's been hitting the ball a TON. Even his outs are rockets.

forfreelin04
05-03-2009, 04:06 PM
Top of 5:

Reds refusing to make quality at bats with a lead. Willy T bounces to 3rd on the 1st pitch. 1 out

Dickerson fouls off a few balls out of the zone with a 2-2 count then grounds to the Brothers Laroche. 2 out

Ump is calling a horrible outside strike. (One on Votto, one on Dickerson)

Votto singles past Bixler. Takes a wide turn, gets sniped, falls down but gets back without a throw. Guy is amazing.

Passed ball by Jaramillo allows Votto to move to second.

On the next pitch, Phillips singles in front of Morgan in left. Votto scores!

Bruce gets handcuffed a bit. Lines to RF. 3 out.

After 4 and 1/2, Reds 5 Pirates 0.

Reds Fanatic
05-03-2009, 04:09 PM
An. LaRoche grounds out to 3rd.

_Sir_Charles_
05-03-2009, 04:09 PM
Laroche Ground out to Rosales for the first out.

Reds Fanatic
05-03-2009, 04:10 PM
Jaramillo strikes out looking. 7 Ks. 2 outs.

_Sir_Charles_
05-03-2009, 04:10 PM
KKKKKKK

nate
05-03-2009, 04:12 PM
Cueto is dealing.

membengal
05-03-2009, 04:12 PM
n.a.s.t.y.

Reds Fanatic
05-03-2009, 04:12 PM
Bixler strikes out swinging. 8 Ks for Cueto. 5-0 Reds after 5.

_Sir_Charles_
05-03-2009, 04:12 PM
KKKKKKKK

mbgrayson
05-03-2009, 04:12 PM
After 5 innings complete, Reds up 5 to 0.

Karsten at 95 pitches, 53 strikes.
Cueto at 77 pitches, 47 strikes. (8 Ks).

forfreelin04
05-03-2009, 04:12 PM
Bottom of 5:

The less famous Laroche grounds to Rosales. Throw is high, but Votto reaches and stays on bag. 1 out

Jaramillo having a rough day. K's looking. (7 for Cueto) 2 out.

Bixler K's of the swinging variety. (8 K's for Johnny B Good) 3 out
After a full 5, Reds 5 Pirates 0.

Reds Fanatic
05-03-2009, 04:14 PM
Double switch. Vazquez in to play short and Evan Meek in to pitch.

Reds Fanatic
05-03-2009, 04:15 PM
Hernandez lines out to left. Morgan makes a leaping catch.

_Sir_Charles_
05-03-2009, 04:15 PM
Nice play by Nyjer Morgan. REALLY nice.

Reds Fanatic
05-03-2009, 04:17 PM
Rosales walks.

Hoosier Red
05-03-2009, 04:17 PM
I dunno, it looked like someone may have caught a case of the Edmonds on that last catch. It looked like he got fooled than made a leaping catch.

I could be wrong though.

Reds Fanatic
05-03-2009, 04:19 PM
Gonzalez lines out to right.

Reds Fanatic
05-03-2009, 04:20 PM
Cueto grounds out to 2nd. 5-0 Reds mid 6th.

forfreelin04
05-03-2009, 04:21 PM
Top of 6th:

Evan Meek pitching.

Hernandez bangs one to Morgan who jumps to get it. (Morgan is about as raw as it gets out there) 1 out

Rosales with his best at bat today. Walks.

Gonzo seems to be swinging for the fences since his HR yesterday.
He then hits a sinking liner that Moss hauls in. 2 out (Two hard hit balls turn into outs)

Cueto hitting for himself. Grounds to Sanchez. He doesn't even run to 1st. HA! Where's the hustle? HA! 3 out

After 5 and 1/2, Reds 5 Pirates 0.

Reds Fanatic
05-03-2009, 04:23 PM
Vazquez pops out to short. 1 out.

Reds Fanatic
05-03-2009, 04:24 PM
Morgan flies out to left. 2 outs.

_Sir_Charles_
05-03-2009, 04:25 PM
KKKKKKKKK

I think this is the best I've seen Cueto since his first outting. REALLY dominant. :O)

Reds Fanatic
05-03-2009, 04:26 PM
Sanchez strikes out swinging. 9 Ks for Cueto. 5-0 Reds after 6.

forfreelin04
05-03-2009, 04:26 PM
Bottom of 6:

Vasquez hitting for the pitcher. Pops to shallow Center, Gonzo hauls it in. 1 out

Morgan flies to Dickerson. 2 out

Cueto K's Sanchez swinging on a bad ball in his eyes. (9 K's) 3 out.

Best inning yet for Cueto.

After a full 6, Reds 5 Pirates 0.

_Sir_Charles_
05-03-2009, 04:28 PM
Wow, he called that a BALL? That bunt attempt was a strike.

Reds Fanatic
05-03-2009, 04:30 PM
Taveras grounds out to 3rd. 1 out.

_Sir_Charles_
05-03-2009, 04:30 PM
Taveras grounds out to third. 1 down. It seems like Taveras has led off just about every inning. I know he hasn't, but sure does seem like it.

Reds Fanatic
05-03-2009, 04:32 PM
Dickerson grounds out to 2nd. 2 outs.

_Sir_Charles_
05-03-2009, 04:32 PM
Dickerson grounds out to second. 2 down. Votto up.

Reds Fanatic
05-03-2009, 04:34 PM
Votto strikes out swinging. 5-0 Reds mid 7th.

forfreelin04
05-03-2009, 04:34 PM
Top of 7:

Evan Meek still pitching.

WT pops one into short right... just foul. Works the count full. WT bounces to the brothers Laroche again. 1 out

(So far WT's speed is a little underwelming; he'd be better off bating left handed all the time)

Dickerson grounds to Sanchez. Ball almost ate Sanchez up. 2 out

The Meek gets Votto swinging. 3 out.

After 6 and a 1/2, Reds 5 Pirates 0.

_Sir_Charles_
05-03-2009, 04:36 PM
We can complain all we want about Taveras, but it's that one sentence you wrote '04 that shows me all I need to see..."Works the count full." If he keeps doing that, he'll be a benefit to the team.

remdog
05-03-2009, 04:36 PM
Cueto was a phenom in his ride up through the minor leagues. Last year, as a rookie, he was way beyond average for a rookie pitcher. He has great stuff, is young and is still learning both the game and his emotions. He got off to a little bit of a slow start but is showing signs that he has the talent to become one of the elite pitchers in the league a la Pedro Martinez, Roy Holliday, Roy Oswalt, etc.....

Rem

Reds Fanatic
05-03-2009, 04:38 PM
McLouth singles to left.

_Sir_Charles_
05-03-2009, 04:40 PM
4-6-3 DP Smooth as silk

Reds Fanatic
05-03-2009, 04:40 PM
Ad. LaRoche grounds into a 4-6-3 DP. 2 outs.

Reds Fanatic
05-03-2009, 04:40 PM
Moss grounds out to 1st. 5-0 Reds after 7.

_Sir_Charles_
05-03-2009, 04:41 PM
3 up 3 down. Cueto is ROLLIN!

forfreelin04
05-03-2009, 04:41 PM
Bottom of 7:

McClouth plunks Hernandez with the backend of the bat on a swing and miss. Then he blisters one to Rosales who can't see it, single to LF. Should have caught that for sure.


The more famous LaRoche grounds into a 4-6-3 DP on a 3-1 count. Nicely done. 2 out

Moss grounds to Votto deep at 1st. He throws sidearm to Cueto. 3 out.

Crisis averted rather quickly.

After a full 7, Reds 5 Pirates 0.

_Sir_Charles_
05-03-2009, 04:42 PM
95 pitches after 7. Do you let Cueto try to finish it? What's his limit for pitches if he's rolling like this? 110, 120?

Reds Fanatic
05-03-2009, 04:44 PM
Phillips singles to center. His 2nd hit today.