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OnBaseMachine
05-04-2009, 10:29 PM
Votto flies out. Two outs. Another pitching change.

Cyclone792
05-04-2009, 10:29 PM
For a guy who bragged about stealing 100 bases and making Reds fans forget about Bob Bescher, Willy T certainly isn't putting his money where his mouth is on the bases.

It sure would have been nice to have him standing on third base for Votto's plate appearance (and subsequent fly out to medium-deep left center).

WMR
05-04-2009, 10:29 PM
What's the point of having Taveras on the roster if he's not going to steal 3rd there?

membengal
05-04-2009, 10:30 PM
Wish Willy had found a way to be at third before Joey flied out...

ETA: Heh. Sorry, was typing as Cyclone and WilyMo posted. What they said.

WMR
05-04-2009, 10:30 PM
For a guy who bragged about stealing 100 bases and making Reds fans forget about Bob Bescher, Willy T certainly isn't putting his money where his mouth is on the bases.

No kidding.

For a supposed base stealing dynamo he has been downright boring on the base paths so far.

_Sir_Charles_
05-04-2009, 10:31 PM
Leo Nunez in. 2-0 with a 3.18 era to face Phillips.

WVRedsFan
05-04-2009, 10:32 PM
What's the point of having Taveras on the roster if he's not going to steal 3rd there?

You just answered your own question...maybe. I think he has been OK so far with statistics similar to other leadoff hitters we've had over the years.

KoryMac5
05-04-2009, 10:33 PM
Does Willy T have a green light in all situations from Baker?

fisch11
05-04-2009, 10:33 PM
No kidding. I watched the Reds play the Rockies last season in Colorado, and everytime Willy got on base he created HAVOC. I couldn't stand it when he got on base because I knew he was going to get into scoring position and throw off the pitcher's timing.

_Sir_Charles_
05-04-2009, 10:33 PM
Wow, what was Brandon swinging at there? Yikes.

fisch11
05-04-2009, 10:34 PM
Follow up: The Rockies are still among league leaders in SB this year without him. Makes you wonder if it is more the players or the coaching. Any inputs??

Red in Chicago
05-04-2009, 10:34 PM
Nunez is all over the place

Tony Cloninger
05-04-2009, 10:35 PM
If Baker holds WT ....then i would like an explanation.

Votto...though...i thought swung at ball 2. Not his best AB.

_Sir_Charles_
05-04-2009, 10:36 PM
Follow up: The Rockies are still among league leaders in SB this year without him. Makes you wonder if it is more the players or the coaching. Any inputs??

I know Willy had been dealing with the flu recently. Maybe he's not 100%?

Red in Chicago
05-04-2009, 10:36 PM
ump looked like he took a shot from mike tyson there :)

membengal
05-04-2009, 10:37 PM
Rats. Tough luck, Brandon.

_Sir_Charles_
05-04-2009, 10:38 PM
MAN! Rocket shot by Phillips...just a great play by Hanley. 2-2 middle of 8. Snakebit right there.

forfreelin04
05-04-2009, 10:39 PM
Top of 8:

Johnson still pitching

Nix pinch hitting for Harang. Johnson gets ahead 0-2. Nix flies to Bona in foul ground. 1 out

Nunez (R) and Meyer (L) warming in the bullpen.

Willy T gets behind 0-2. Johnson befuddles him. UNTIL NOW! Willy T singles in front of Maybin.

Dickerson looks at 2 strikes on the outside corner. (IMO they are off the plate) He then singles to LF on a 1-2 pitch. Nice day at the plate for Dickerson. Runners on 1st and 2nd.

Lefty Meyer coming in to face Votto

1-0 pitch is high
Votto then flies to Maybin in center. 2 out

Willy T did tag but did not advance.

Nunez coming in to face BP.

BP swings at strike 1 at his ankles and outside. 2-1 count. Nunez does have some control problems. 3-1
3-2 on a foul down the 3rd base line. Pitch was a strike.
3-2 pitch is foul back into the Umps Mask. Looked like he might fall on his back. Seems to be fine now.
Line shot to Hanley who jumps and makes the catch. Like I said single handedly winning this game. 3 out

After 7 and 1/2, Reds 2 Marlins 2.

OnBaseMachine
05-04-2009, 10:39 PM
Phillips has left four men on base tonight. He swung at ball four on the previous pitch. Could've had the bases loaded for Bruce.

_Sir_Charles_
05-04-2009, 10:39 PM
Nice outing by Harang, but a ND. Better than a L, but it would've been nice to get him the W there.

fisch11
05-04-2009, 10:39 PM
That had 2RBI gapper written all over it. Would have been nice for BP to get that.

_Sir_Charles_
05-04-2009, 10:40 PM
Phillips has left four men on base tonight. He swung at ball four on the previous pitch. Could've had the bases loaded for Bruce.

Game day's got that as a strike, plus the Ump's been calling that inside pitch a strike all night. Yep, he should've swung at that one. All in all a pretty good ab from Brandon there.

forfreelin04
05-04-2009, 10:41 PM
I know Willy had been dealing with the flu recently. Maybe he's not 100%?

I don't know. I was disappointed with Willy T not stealing that inning, but I was more upset by his lack of a lead. I have been upset with that pretty much all year. For a guy with so many steals, he doesn't look like someone who knows what he is doing beyond running as fast as he can.

_Sir_Charles_
05-04-2009, 10:42 PM
Cowboy & Thom commenting on the lack of work for Weathers. Come on guys, when your starters are rolling like they have been lately, your relivers are not going to get as much work. FAR from something I'll complain about.

_Sir_Charles_
05-04-2009, 10:43 PM
I don't know. I was disappointed with Willy T not stealing that inning, but I was more upset by his lack of a lead. I have been upset with that pretty much all year. For a guy with so many steals, he doesn't look like someone who knows what he is doing beyond running as fast as he can.

I'm not disagreeing. He doesn't seem very aggressive on the bases so far. Not sure why...but there it is anyway. Regardless, he's still contributing nicely. Hard to complain too much.

Tony Cloninger
05-04-2009, 10:43 PM
Why would they complain about lack of work? Better for the old guys they are not overworked.....and starters going 7-8 innings every start? Give me that every day.

OnBaseMachine
05-04-2009, 10:44 PM
Uggla flied out.

Hermida struckout.

Ross flied out.

2-2 after eight innings.

membengal
05-04-2009, 10:44 PM
Weathers has turned into a warm glass of milk on a cold winter's night.

forfreelin04
05-04-2009, 10:45 PM
Bottom of 8:

Uggla flies deep to WT. 1 out (This ballpark is a national park)

Hermida works Weathers to 3-2. Then K's looking. 2 out

Reds Killa Cody Ross flies to WT. 3 out.

Lindstrom warming in the pen.

After 8 full, Reds 2 Marlins 2.

(Look at it this way, no Cody Ross in the ninth)

_Sir_Charles_
05-04-2009, 10:45 PM
Nice solid 1-2-3 inning from Weathers.

*nearly falls over from the shock*

He's been really good so far this year, but 1-2-3's are still a shock to the system when Stormy's on the mound.

wheels
05-04-2009, 10:45 PM
David weathers freaking rules. The old bag of bones...

Cyclone792
05-04-2009, 10:46 PM
Legitimate impact base stealers swipe a bag in that situation. Willy T has rarely shown he's cut out of that thus far this season.

Barry Larkin in his prime would have stolen a bag and scored a run last inning. He knew how to swipe a bag, and he knew the situations where the benefit was exponentially greater.

forfreelin04
05-04-2009, 10:46 PM
Weathers has turned into a warm glass of milk on a cold winter's night.

Watch him turn that milk spoiled in June and frustate the jeebus out of everyone.

OnBaseMachine
05-04-2009, 10:46 PM
Legitimate impact base stealers swipe a bag in that situation. Willy T has rarely shown he's cut out of that thus far this season.

Barry Larkin in his prime would have stolen a bag and scored a run last inning. He knew how to swipe a bag, and he knew the situations where the benefit was exponentially greater.

Yep. Taveras was touted as a great bunter who will steal a boatload of bases. So far, we've seen neither.

_Sir_Charles_
05-04-2009, 10:47 PM
Brett Carroll takes over defensively for Hermida. Anybody heard of him before?

TRF
05-04-2009, 10:47 PM
Legitimate impact base stealers swipe a bag in that situation. Willy T has rarely shown he's cut out of that thus far this season.

Barry Larkin in his prime would have stolen a bag and scored a run last inning. He knew how to swipe a bag, and he knew the situations where the benefit was exponentially greater.

hear freaking hear.

I was hoping Carl Crawford's display might light a fire under Taveras' butt.

still hoping for that.

OnBaseMachine
05-04-2009, 10:48 PM
Bruce gets ahead 3-0. Called strike. Foul. 3-2. Ball four. Nice atbat. Get him in!

_Sir_Charles_
05-04-2009, 10:48 PM
The next big thing draws the lead off walk.

_Sir_Charles_
05-04-2009, 10:48 PM
Bunting? No! You hit & run here!

wheels
05-04-2009, 10:49 PM
Atta baybee. Bruce walks to lead it off.

OnBaseMachine
05-04-2009, 10:49 PM
Hernandez showing bunt. 2-0 count. I'd make him throw a strike.

OnBaseMachine
05-04-2009, 10:50 PM
Sac bunt gets Bruce to second. Rosales up. I'd pinch hit for Gonzalez when he comes up.

_Sir_Charles_
05-04-2009, 10:50 PM
Successful sac bunt moves Bruce to 2nd. I don't know, Ramon's been swinging a really solid bat lately...I think I let him hit & run there. But I'm not complaining. :O)

OnBaseMachine
05-04-2009, 10:51 PM
Rosales got a handing slider and popped it up. Two outs.

_Sir_Charles_
05-04-2009, 10:51 PM
Shoot. IF popup from Rosales. 2 down. Bruce holds.

membengal
05-04-2009, 10:51 PM
Rosales making me look forward to JHJ tomorrow night at third.

*BaseClogger*
05-04-2009, 10:51 PM
Willy Taveras should steal seven bases...

OnBaseMachine
05-04-2009, 10:53 PM
Gonzalez takes a strike. Chases a pitch a foot outside. 0-2. Lines out softly to SS. Again, why was he allowed to hit? Another blown opportunity. Again.

_Sir_Charles_
05-04-2009, 10:53 PM
I smell extra innings.

That means I'll miss the end because the Rockets & Lakers come on shortly. I'd normally pick the Reds over the Rockets...but it's the playoffs baby!

forfreelin04
05-04-2009, 10:53 PM
Top of 9:

Nunez still pitching. Someone named Matt Carroll in LEFT FIELD.

Nunez quickly gets behind Bruce 3-0. 3-1. 3-2 (foul). Walks (good start)

Hernandez up there sac bunting. (Ball 1) (Ball 2) (Pull back strike 1) He then lays it down the 1st base line. Nicely done. 1 out

Rosales up.
Strike 1
He then pops to Baker. 2 out
Gonzo up.
Strike 1
(JHJ on deck)
Strike 2 swinging
He then lines not as hard to Hanley. 3 out

After 8 and 1/2, Reds 2 Marlins 2.

forfreelin04
05-04-2009, 10:54 PM
teh Dust took the bat out of the Reds hottest hitter for Rosales and Gonzalez.

mbgrayson
05-04-2009, 10:55 PM
The roster as currently constructed lacks LH pinch hitting talent. With Bruce drawing a walk to lead off, we have Ramon, Rosales, and Gonzales, with no left handed bats on the bench. Nunez on the mound has a .105 BA against vs. RH batters....and we have no lefties to bat for the catcher, 3rd basemen, or shortstop.

TRF
05-04-2009, 10:55 PM
Willy Taveras should steal seven bases...

no, but he's the one that said 100 SB's. he's on pace for 35.

I just want him to be thinking SB EVERY TIME he's on base. His speed is a weapon, but he needs to actually use it. It's not like he has any power or real plate discipline. If speed is all he has, he needs to use it. Everyone agrees with that.

_Sir_Charles_
05-04-2009, 10:56 PM
teh Dust took the bat out of the Reds hottest hitter for Rosales and Gonzalez.

Yep. I don't get that move. Rosales has been solid so far, but why put it on the shoulders of the Rook when Ramon's swinging a solid bat? Puzzling. I mean if you concern is getting Bruce to second...have him swipe it. He's got good speed too.

Rhodes in to pitch the ninth.

OnBaseMachine
05-04-2009, 10:57 PM
Maybin K's looking. One out.

OnBaseMachine
05-04-2009, 10:59 PM
Wow. Where was that 0-2 pitch to Helms? Looked like strike three to me. Now he singles after the ump missed strike three.

mbgrayson
05-04-2009, 11:00 PM
Wow. Where was that 0-2 pitch to Helms? Looked like strike three to me.

It was clearly outside. Gameday confirms this....

OnBaseMachine
05-04-2009, 11:00 PM
Bonifacio singles. Sigh.

_Sir_Charles_
05-04-2009, 11:01 PM
BTB singles. 1st & 2nd.

_Sir_Charles_
05-04-2009, 11:01 PM
Burton up warming again.

Cyclone792
05-04-2009, 11:03 PM
FWIW, speaking of Barry Larkin and stolen bases ...

Larkin stole third base 97 times in only 109 attempts for his career - that's good for an 89 percent success rate of swipes of third.

Larkin stole 131 bases in only 154 attempts on the first pitch to the next batter - that's good for an 85 percent success rate of stealing on the first pitch. He stole 69 bases in only 77 attempts on the second pitch, which is good for a 90 percent success rate. In total, Larkin stole 200 bases in 231 attempts - an 86.6 percent success rate - on the first or second pitch to the hitter at the plate.

That's the power of a legitimate base stealing threat. Get on base, and swipe a bag immediately.

_Sir_Charles_
05-04-2009, 11:04 PM
Correction....Masset warming.

_Sir_Charles_
05-04-2009, 11:04 PM
Big strikeout there.

Masset coming in to face Hanley.

redsmetz
05-04-2009, 11:04 PM
Paulino K's, Dusty on his way out.

Red in Chicago
05-04-2009, 11:04 PM
huuuuuuugggeeee k there by rhodes...two out...

OnBaseMachine
05-04-2009, 11:05 PM
Masset vs Ramirez. I don't like that matchup at all.

forfreelin04
05-04-2009, 11:06 PM
I don't like the matchup either. Huge opportunity for Nick though.

Red in Chicago
05-04-2009, 11:07 PM
FWIW, speaking of Barry Larkin and stolen bases ...

Larkin stole third base 97 times in only 109 attempts for his career - that's good for an 89 percent success rate of swipes of third.

Larkin stole 131 bases in only 154 attempts on the first pitch to the next batter - that's good for an 85 percent success rate of stealing on the first pitch. He stole 69 bases in only 77 attempts on the second pitch, which is good for a 90 percent success rate. In total, Larkin stole 200 bases in 231 attempts - an 86.6 percent success rate - on the first or second pitch to the hitter at the plate.

That's the power of a legitimate base stealing threat. Get on base, and swipe a bag immediately.

Prior to last year, Taveras' stolen base success rate was never more than 78%.

_Sir_Charles_
05-04-2009, 11:08 PM
3-1 to Hanley....do you walk him? I do.

OnBaseMachine
05-04-2009, 11:09 PM
Ramirez walks. Bases loaded. Two outs. I don't feel comfortable at all with Masset pitching.

wheels
05-04-2009, 11:09 PM
Would be nice to have Jared burton pitching well in a time like this.

RedFanAlways1966
05-04-2009, 11:09 PM
I am okay with a walk to Ramirez. Bring up Cantu and take your chances.

alloverjr
05-04-2009, 11:09 PM
I don't think Masset has any control of his pitches tonight

membengal
05-04-2009, 11:09 PM
Why didn't Weathers come out for a second inning of work?

This has been a rather unconventional evening for the Reds' manager, even by his standards.

_Sir_Charles_
05-04-2009, 11:09 PM
Cantu up with the bases jacked and 2 down. Sit his butt DOWN!

Cyclone792
05-04-2009, 11:09 PM
Masset doesn't have the control for this type of situation. My biggest hope is that he doesn't walk in the run to end the game.

OnBaseMachine
05-04-2009, 11:10 PM
Cantu flies out. Nice job by Masset.

Extra innings.

Reds Fanatic
05-04-2009, 11:10 PM
Cantu flies out to right. On to the 10th.

_Sir_Charles_
05-04-2009, 11:10 PM
I don't think Masset has any control of his pitches tonight

Nah, he JUST missed on balls 3 & 4. He's fine.

Pop out for Cantu! Extra innings.

alloverjr
05-04-2009, 11:10 PM
Nice result there.

11larkin11
05-04-2009, 11:10 PM
Nice job Masset!!! I'm glad we kept him. He's a great guy to have in the pen. I think he's gonna be in this game for awhile if it keeps going. He is the long guy.

Cyclone792
05-04-2009, 11:10 PM
Fortunately Cantu hates taking pitches and hates taking walks, and he promptly hacks a fly ball out to right field.

RedFanAlways1966
05-04-2009, 11:10 PM
Nice. Pop fly to Bruce in RF to end the threat and take us to the first extra inning game this year for the REDS.

membengal
05-04-2009, 11:10 PM
Given all the faith that Dusty shows in his players, if this works out this year beyond our hopes and dreams, they should all pitch in and buy him something nice...

The Baumer
05-04-2009, 11:11 PM
Very un-Reds to get out of that inning...

forfreelin04
05-04-2009, 11:11 PM
Bottom of 9:

Rhodes to Redemption pitching.

Maybin up. Strike's out looking. 1 out

Wes Helms pinch hitting. Rhodes gets ahead 0-2. 1-2 (borderline pitch). Helms hits a single between 3rd and SS.

Bonafacio up. He singles to RF.
Time for Rhodes to get mad.

Amezega pinch running for Helms.

Paulino into pinch hit for Baker. Rhodes stays in. Paulino hitting .360 verse lefties
2-2 to Paulino K's swinging on a bad ball up. 2 out

(Marlins are out of bench players)

Rameriez up. In to single handely win this game, like I've been saying this whole time.

Masset coming into pitch to Hanley. (No faith in Burton or Lincoln, can't blame them)

Comes in with a fastball. Good spot. Foul tip. 0-1
1-1 Massett throwing 96.
2-1 Curve misses badly outside
3-1 Curve misses outside again
Walks Hanley on a fastball down.

I don't mind that much. Hanley at first means nothing.

Hanley > Cantu.

1-0 to Cantu Fastball outside
Cantu flies to Bruce! Nice job Massett! 3 out

After a full 9, we head to extras Reds and Marlins tied at 2.

OnBaseMachine
05-04-2009, 11:11 PM
Another nice night by the pitching staff. Held a tough Marlins lineup to two runs in nine innings. Gotta win those games.

11larkin11
05-04-2009, 11:12 PM
Ok, did Dusty double switch, waste his long guy, or letting his long guy hit?

TRF
05-04-2009, 11:12 PM
I'm betting Janish leads off the 10th.

membengal
05-04-2009, 11:13 PM
I hope there was a double switch and that we just didn't lose our long guy after two hitters...

_Sir_Charles_
05-04-2009, 11:13 PM
Here's something to pacify the RZ masses. Dusty can't bring Harang in to pitch multiple innings of relief. :O)

OnBaseMachine
05-04-2009, 11:13 PM
Hairston begins the 9th by chasing a fastball eight inches outside. 0-1. Ball 1. Lines out to center.

11larkin11
05-04-2009, 11:14 PM
And the answer is...waste the long guy. Who knows how long this game will go? Why not double switch and put Janish at 9 at SS and the pitcher at 8?

Cyclone792
05-04-2009, 11:14 PM
One additional reason I'm not keen on using Masset in that situation is because he's the long man. In an extra inning situation, it's nice having a guy capable of pitching three or four innings should the game head beyond 11 or 12 innings.

If I see Mike Lincoln show his face in this game, I'm liable to puke. The Reds need to win this one before Lincoln even sniffs the mound.

membengal
05-04-2009, 11:14 PM
Owings was, what, two days ago? I guess, worst case, if Dusty wants to "Harang" someone in the 12th, it's Owings.

redsmetz
05-04-2009, 11:14 PM
Given all the faith that Dusty shows in his players, if this works out this year beyond our hopes and dreams, they should all pitch in and buy him something nice...

Okay, well, uh... candlesticks always make a nice gift, and uh, maybe you could find out where he's registered and maybe a place-setting or maybe a silverware pattern.

mbgrayson
05-04-2009, 11:14 PM
Nice job Masset!!! I'm glad we kept him. He's a great guy to have in the pen. I think he's gonna be in this game for awhile if it keeps going. He is the long guy.

Not too long for Massett. The pitchers spot was up first, and JHJ hit. (Unless Dusty did a double switch there...which nobody has mentioned...)

OnBaseMachine
05-04-2009, 11:15 PM
Wow. Ump just missed another call. Taveras took a curve right on the outside corner but the ump called it a ball. Ump has been pretty good overall, though he's missed a couple in the last inning.

membengal
05-04-2009, 11:15 PM
It was outside.

wheels
05-04-2009, 11:16 PM
Extra baseball is awesome.

membengal
05-04-2009, 11:17 PM
The Reds could use a big fly here.

membengal
05-04-2009, 11:17 PM
One of 12 remaining Marlins fans is drunk. And loud. And not that funny.

11larkin11
05-04-2009, 11:18 PM
I'll probably be wrong, but I have this sinking feeling wasting our long guy is going to come back to haunt us. Whos we have left? Herrera, Cordero, Lincoln, Burton?

OnBaseMachine
05-04-2009, 11:18 PM
Matt Lindstrom and his 8.00 ERA throws an easy 1-2-3 10th inning.

membengal
05-04-2009, 11:18 PM
Weathers is used already.

Down to Herrera, Lincoln, and Cordero. And Burton.

forfreelin04
05-04-2009, 11:18 PM
Top of Ten:

Lindstrom into pitch. He has an 8 ERA.

JHJ pinch hitting for Massett. Unfortunate, considering he is the long man. JHJ lines a nice shot to CF that Amezega hauls in. 1 out

Taveras up. Quickly gets behind 0-2. (Why does he swing as if he could hit a homer?)
(Marlin fans on the broadcast yelling "Free Willy.")
Willy bounces to Hanley who just beats him. Close play. I think he was safe. 2 out

Lindstrom brings the 0-1 at 99. 1-1. Then drops a curve on him for a strike. Nasty. 1-2. Dickerson K's on a check swing. 3 out.

After 9 and 1/2, Reds 2 Marlins 2.

Cyclone792
05-04-2009, 11:19 PM
Owings was, what, two days ago? I guess, worst case, if Dusty wants to "Harang" someone in the 12th, it's Owings.

Of course, the other piece of bad news that is likely associated with this is Owings probably isn't available to pinch hit ... unless he's inserted in the game to pitch. Of course, the plus is that if Owings is indeed the guy, there's no need to worry about pinch hitting for him once he's in the game pitching.

Nevertheless, I hate putting starters into games in relief in extra innings, whether they're aces of back of the rotation guys. Games like these are a big reason why you've got a Nick Masset in the bullpen. A spot starter/long reliever who can pitch several extra innings and who can prevent from destroying a starter's arm.

alloverjr
05-04-2009, 11:19 PM
Oh I hope we see Lincoln.

_Sir_Charles_
05-04-2009, 11:20 PM
Whos we have left? Herrera, Cordero, Lincoln, Burton?

Yep, and Herrera, Lincoln & Burton can all go multiple innings IMO.

Cyclone792
05-04-2009, 11:20 PM
I do like seeing Burton in to pitch now. He needs to go two innings right here if necessary.

membengal
05-04-2009, 11:20 PM
Of course, the other piece of bad news that is likely associated with this is Owings probably isn't available to pinch hit ... unless he's inserted in the game to pitch. Of course, the plus is that if Owings is indeed the guy, there's no need to worry about pinch hitting for him once he's in the game pitching.

Nevertheless, I hate putting starters into games in relief in extra innings, whether they're aces of back of the rotation guys. Games like these are a big reason why you've got a Nick Masset in the bullpen. A spot starter/long reliever who can pitch several extra innings and who can prevent from destroying a starter's arm.

Oh, don't get me wrong, I could not agree with you more. I was just musing worst case. San Diego worst case.

Burton in.

_Sir_Charles_
05-04-2009, 11:20 PM
Burton in to pitch.

membengal
05-04-2009, 11:21 PM
I thought that was ball game.

Whew.

_Sir_Charles_
05-04-2009, 11:22 PM
LOL. Scary fly ball. Uggla flies out to Dickerson.

OnBaseMachine
05-04-2009, 11:22 PM
Uggla flies out to the edge of the warning track in LF. One out.

_Sir_Charles_
05-04-2009, 11:23 PM
Pop out to Votto in foul ground. 2 down.

OnBaseMachine
05-04-2009, 11:23 PM
Carroll fouls out to Votto. Two outs.

Cody Ross up. He scares me. He hit a walk off homer vs the Reds last season.

OnBaseMachine
05-04-2009, 11:24 PM
0-2 count on Ross.

_Sir_Charles_
05-04-2009, 11:24 PM
Just about took off Adam's head on that hop. 0-2 to Ross.

OnBaseMachine
05-04-2009, 11:25 PM
Ross K's. Inning over.

2-2 after 10.

redsmetz
05-04-2009, 11:25 PM
Burton strikes him out on a 93 MPH fastball

_Sir_Charles_
05-04-2009, 11:26 PM
BIG STRIKEOUT! Now THAT'S the Jared Burton we all know from last year! Thank you!

membengal
05-04-2009, 11:26 PM
Nice work from Burton that inning against a couple of dangerous outs. Nice to see that from him.

forfreelin04
05-04-2009, 11:26 PM
Bottom of 10:

Burton pitching. (UGH, whose left tho?)

Uggla up. Burton does seem to be seperating his arms more in his windup. This seems to help him keep the ball down.
Burton leaves on up. Ugglas smashes it to the track in Left. This National park holds everything but Hanley. 1 out

Brett Carroll (1 FOR 14 ON THE YEAR) Burton starting to scare me as balls are starting to stay up. Carroll pops to Votto. 2 out

Baby Face Ross up. Let's hope the Curse of Cody doesn't continue. (The fans are chanting Cody, Cody, Cody, which is sure to not work)
Ross bounces down the 3rd base line. Rosales waves at but the ball is foul. 0-2 Cody K's on the 1-2. (Told ya it doesn't work) 3 out

(Ross Gload is on deck, guess I missed that one. Now the Marlins have no position players)

On to the 11th, Reds 2 Marlins 2.

wheels
05-04-2009, 11:26 PM
This is gonna sound dumb. Rosales reminds me more of mark fidrych than pete rose.

_Sir_Charles_
05-04-2009, 11:26 PM
If Burton turns it around, we've got a DEADLY staff!

OnBaseMachine
05-04-2009, 11:27 PM
Votto/Phillips/Bruce due up. This is our best chance to score.

Cyclone792
05-04-2009, 11:27 PM
Oh, don't get me wrong, I could not agree with you more. I was just musing worst case. San Diego worst case.

Burton in.

Yep, having guys like Masset should prevent a San Diego from occurring, but since teh Dusty's already used him ...

BTW, I actually think it'd probably be Volquez or Arroyo before Owings. Volquez is on three days' rest, Arroyo is on two days' rest, and Owings is only on one days' rest. Volquez is obviously scheduled to go tomorrow night, and Arroyo's the scheduled starter for Wednesday night's home series opener against the Brewers.

_Sir_Charles_
05-04-2009, 11:28 PM
That's 13 K's for the Reds staff tonight. Not too shabby.

Vottomatic leads things off. Nice time for #4 right here.

OnBaseMachine
05-04-2009, 11:29 PM
Votto bloops a single to left. Phillips up.

_Sir_Charles_
05-04-2009, 11:29 PM
Seeing eye single for Votto...falls down, but a crummy throw allows him to get back.

membengal
05-04-2009, 11:30 PM
Nice to see a bloop work in the Reds' favor.

Phillips against the lefty. Make him hurt, Brandon.

And shut those drunk Marlins fans up.

_Sir_Charles_
05-04-2009, 11:30 PM
I'm sorry...I meant #4 for Brandon. :O)

OnBaseMachine
05-04-2009, 11:30 PM
Phillips vs a lefty. Crush it Brandon.

_Sir_Charles_
05-04-2009, 11:31 PM
Brandon's swinging for the fences....usually not a good sign.

_Sir_Charles_
05-04-2009, 11:32 PM
Nearly a DP but Phillips beats it out.

Degenerate39
05-04-2009, 11:32 PM
Your speed saved you there Phillips

OnBaseMachine
05-04-2009, 11:32 PM
Phillips swings at another bad pitch and grounds into a FC. Sheesh. He's killed the offense tonight.

_Sir_Charles_
05-04-2009, 11:32 PM
"Bruce struggles against lefties"

Shut 'em up Jay!

membengal
05-04-2009, 11:32 PM
With the force, Brandon needs to steal second. Just like Cyclone documented Larkin used to do.

OnBaseMachine
05-04-2009, 11:33 PM
Phillips isn't even hitting lefties this year.

_Sir_Charles_
05-04-2009, 11:33 PM
Wow, shocking stat of the night....the Nationals actually won a game tonight. :O)

OnBaseMachine
05-04-2009, 11:35 PM
3-1 on Bruce.

Cyclone792
05-04-2009, 11:35 PM
Bruce needs to either crush a pitch he loves or take a walk.

membengal
05-04-2009, 11:35 PM
Oof. He wanted that pitch. Looked like a strike to me. We'll take it.

OnBaseMachine
05-04-2009, 11:36 PM
Bruce swings at a bad 3-1 pitch. Should have been ball 4. 3-2 now. He walks anyways.

First and second, one out, and Hernandez up.

_Sir_Charles_
05-04-2009, 11:36 PM
Jay draws the walk after trying to swing at a pitch above his head. *grin*

Cyclone792
05-04-2009, 11:36 PM
Should have taken the walk on the 3-1 pitch, but at least he got it on the 3-2 pitch.

Phillips needs to take off for third with the big leg kick now.

Cyclone792
05-04-2009, 11:37 PM
Sounds like Cantu isn't even holding Bruce on. Phillips can swipe third with the leg kick, and if Bruce isn't being held on second is easy for his taking.

_Sir_Charles_
05-04-2009, 11:37 PM
I'm gonna call it. 2 out single to plate 2 runs by Rosales. :O)

BCubb2003
05-04-2009, 11:38 PM
Rick Ankiel hit his head hard on the wall in St. Louis. Taken off the field on a cart.

OnBaseMachine
05-04-2009, 11:38 PM
Sigh. A weak flyout by Hernandez. Two outs. It's up to Rosales.

membengal
05-04-2009, 11:38 PM
Nice of George to inform that would "stay in the park". Ya think, George?

CrackerJack
05-04-2009, 11:40 PM
Rosales looked silly there

membengal
05-04-2009, 11:40 PM
Real ugly at-bats for Rosales tonite in big situations.

_Sir_Charles_
05-04-2009, 11:40 PM
Okay, maybe not. High heat sits Adam down. He looked pretty bad in that AB.

Reds Fanatic
05-04-2009, 11:40 PM
Reds now 1 for 10 with runners in scoring position tonight.

Cyclone792
05-04-2009, 11:41 PM
Fantastic of the Reds to try to mold a small ball, speed offense this offseason. This is now the second inning late in this game where the Reds should have had a runner standing on third base with less than two outs, and they didn't even think about it.

If you're going to play small ball centered around speed, at least be good at it.

OnBaseMachine
05-04-2009, 11:41 PM
Absolutely ridiculous. This offense is mind-numbing bad.

forfreelin04
05-04-2009, 11:41 PM
Top of 11:

Renyel Pinto pitching.

Votto up. He nine irons it into left. Drops for a hit. He fouls on his keyster, but the throw is wide.

(There's a kid (looks like Ham from the Sandlot) yelling into his program at Phillips)

The kid seems to be getting in Brandon's head he swings and misses at 2 straight pitches. 0-2

Phillips grounds to 3rd who throws to second but can't get the DP. 1 out.

(Now why doesn't Dusty bunt there? Makes no sense to have Hernandez bunt earlier)

Bruce up. (One of the security guards told the kid to shut up but he continues)
Bruce works count 3-1. Then he swings at ball 4. 3-2. Ball 4.

(Runners are 1st and second for Hernandez)

(COCO warming)

Hernandez takes ball 1.
Takes a strike 1-1
Phillips dances off second. Pitcher bluffs back.
Hernandez flies to LF. 2 out.

Rosales another chance to be a hero.
Swings and misses. 0-1
He asks for time. Doesn't get it, then swings at a bad ball 0-2
Then swings at another ball out of the zone. 3 out.

(Rosales looked like a career Minor Leaguer there)

(BTW, where's the beef on the stealing late in the game?)

After 10 and 1/2, Reds 2 Marlins 2.

_Sir_Charles_
05-04-2009, 11:41 PM
I thought those pitches were WAY high, but Gameday shows all 3 as high strikes.

forfreelin04
05-04-2009, 11:42 PM
Fantastic of the Reds to try to mold a small ball, speed offense this offseason. This is now the second inning late in this game where the Reds should have had a runner standing on third base with less than two outs, and they didn't even think about it.

If you're going to play small ball centered around speed, at least be good at it.

Or at least attempt it.

The Baumer
05-04-2009, 11:42 PM
2nd shocking stat: The Cardinals are losing!

CarolinaRedleg
05-04-2009, 11:43 PM
Well, at least if the game keeps going for a while, Harang can't be called on to pitch a relief session. :p:

Thought we could use a chuckle.

_Sir_Charles_
05-04-2009, 11:43 PM
Alright guys, I'm out. Stay positive and bring this one home!

OnBaseMachine
05-04-2009, 11:43 PM
Gload grounds out to Janish, now playing SS.

Cyclone792
05-04-2009, 11:46 PM
Nice job Burton to get the pick off!

OnBaseMachine
05-04-2009, 11:46 PM
Amezaga singles, then picked off. Two outs.

membengal
05-04-2009, 11:46 PM
Take THAT, Amezega.

Great move, Burton.

Reds Fanatic
05-04-2009, 11:46 PM
Perfect pickoff throw by Burton.

OnBaseMachine
05-04-2009, 11:47 PM
Bonifacio K's swinging. 2-2 after 11 innings.

membengal
05-04-2009, 11:48 PM
Really fine relief work from Burton in a big spot tonite. That is a real positive from this one.

Cyclone792
05-04-2009, 11:48 PM
Burton did an absolute fantastic job pitching two scoreless innings.

The Reds need to score this inning and let Cordero slam the door shut. We're now getting eerily close to Mike Lincoln time.

Reds Fanatic
05-04-2009, 11:48 PM
Janish, pinch hitter and Taveras due up in the 12th.

forfreelin04
05-04-2009, 11:48 PM
Bottom of 11:

Janish into play SS. He'll lead off next inning.

Gload pinch hitting. Burton still pitching.

Gload hammers a one hopper to Janish. Nice play. 1 out.

Amezega up. He singles to center.

Bonafacio up. Amezega bluffs to 2nd. Ball 1.
He takes off on a hit and run. Foul ball. 1-1.
Quick move to 1st. Amezega caught leaning. Safe though.
Then he is picked off. Nice sell by Votto. 2 out
Bonafacio K's swinging. 3 out

To the 12th we go, Reds 2 Marlins 2.

(Need runs here. I don't think we get by Hanley, Cantu, Uggla again)

11larkin11
05-04-2009, 11:49 PM
Burton turning it on really helps. Don't have to force the starters to throw that extra inning with Weathers/Herrera/Rhodes/Masset/Cordero/Burton throwing well.

CarolinaRedleg
05-04-2009, 11:49 PM
Janish-pitcher's spot-WillyT coming up.

Why not?

Reds Fanatic beat me to it.

Caveat Emperor
05-04-2009, 11:49 PM
Burton did an absolute fantastic job pitching two scoreless innings.

The Reds need to score this inning and let Cordero slam the door shut. We're now getting eerily close to Mike Lincoln time.

His pitching looked sharp -- lot of good locating on his fastball in those two innings. Looked like old Jared Burton again.

On the plus side, at least Aaron Harang can't pitch relief in this game.

Reds Fanatic
05-04-2009, 11:49 PM
Burke Badenhop in to pitch.

medford
05-04-2009, 11:49 PM
so what's the story w/ gonzalez? I'm not sure how far back to look to see a mention in the thread, I figure/hope someone could answer a bit quicker

forfreelin04
05-04-2009, 11:49 PM
The Marlins to probably face the juggernaut that is:

Janish
McDonald
Taveras

The three horsemen of out.

membengal
05-04-2009, 11:49 PM
Owings to pinch hit in pitcher's spot, you all think?

Reds Fanatic
05-04-2009, 11:50 PM
Badenhop comes in with an ERA of 9.00 and an opponent's BA of .353 this year.

OnBaseMachine
05-04-2009, 11:50 PM
Badenhop has a career 6.31 ERA in 50 innings. Please score some runs off him.

Caveat Emperor
05-04-2009, 11:50 PM
Owings to pinch hit in pitcher's spot, you all think?

You'd think, but here comes Darnell McDonald to the on-deck circle.

*BaseClogger*
05-04-2009, 11:51 PM
The Marlins to probably face the juggernaut that is:

Janish
McDonald
Taveras

The three horsemen of out.

:laugh:

membengal
05-04-2009, 11:51 PM
You'd think, but here comes Darnell McDonald to the on-deck circle.

Oh.

OnBaseMachine
05-04-2009, 11:51 PM
Janish infield single to begin the 12th inning.

Cyclone792
05-04-2009, 11:51 PM
Owings to pinch hit in pitcher's spot, you all think?

It'll be Darnell.

Reds are running out of bench players. Hanigan's available, but I'm not sure if they've got an emergency catcher.

Reds Fanatic
05-04-2009, 11:51 PM
Infield hit by Janish to lead off.

Caveat Emperor
05-04-2009, 11:52 PM
Give credit to the third baseman for sticking with that one -- he's got a family to think about out there.

membengal
05-04-2009, 11:52 PM
Echo a question from last page, why did Alex G come out for Janish when he did?

Reds Fanatic
05-04-2009, 11:52 PM
They might not be using Owings as a PH because this game runs much longer he may be needed to pitch.

membengal
05-04-2009, 11:53 PM
Another question ( I got a bunch of them), if this is an obvious sac situation, why not pinch hit, say, Arroyo, to lay down the bunt rather than waste one of your few remaining bats?

Cyclone792
05-04-2009, 11:53 PM
Darnell looks lost up there trying to bunt.

Reds Fanatic
05-04-2009, 11:53 PM
That was an awful bunt attempt.

Caveat Emperor
05-04-2009, 11:54 PM
Ah -- the joys of little ball in the 12th from a team that can't bunt.

mth123
05-04-2009, 11:54 PM
It'll be Darnell.

Reds are running out of bench players. Hanigan's available, but I'm not sure if they've got an emergency catcher.

If he's only there to bunt, I'd use Cueto here.

11larkin11
05-04-2009, 11:54 PM
McDonald cant' lay down the bunt. Useful player that guy is...

And then GIDP. He was safe, but its a moot point.

OnBaseMachine
05-04-2009, 11:54 PM
Two horrible bunt attempts by McDonald. Now 1-2. Now a doubleplay. Why in the world is this guy on the roster?!?!?!?!

membengal
05-04-2009, 11:54 PM
That was less than satisfactory.

Bad managing, Dusty.

Reds Fanatic
05-04-2009, 11:54 PM
6-3 DP and that was a close play at 1st.

Cyclone792
05-04-2009, 11:54 PM
Another question ( I got a bunch of them), if this is an obvious sac situation, why not pinch hit, say, Arroyo, to lay down the bunt rather than waste one of your few remaining bats?

I'm with you there. If you're going to bunt, use a guy like Arroyo.

Instead we get the GIDP. Again, the Reds built a poor small ball, speed centered offense.

LoganBuck
05-04-2009, 11:55 PM
Can we end the McDonald charade yet?

Please?

Caveat Emperor
05-04-2009, 11:55 PM
I'm with you there. If you're going to bunt, use a guy like Arroyo.

Instead we get the GIDP. Again, the Reds built a poor small ball, speed centered offense.

Yup. Arroyo's a good bunter, as is Johnny Cueto. No sense not going to one of those guys in this situation, IMO.

CarolinaRedleg
05-04-2009, 11:55 PM
Another question ( I got a bunch of them), if this is an obvious sac situation, why not pinch hit, say, Arroyo, to lay down the bunt rather than waste one of your few remaining bats?

In his defense, McDonald's a batter in the loosest definition. :p:

Reds Fanatic
05-04-2009, 11:56 PM
Taveras lays down a good bunt but is thrown out.

OnBaseMachine
05-04-2009, 11:56 PM
Gotta love it. They filled the roster full of speedy, small ball guys and none of them can play small ball. As I type this, Taveras drops down a bunt and is thrown out.

Caveat Emperor
05-04-2009, 11:56 PM
You know -- for all the talk of Wily Taveras' great speed, I don't think I've seen him leg out a single infield hit this year.

Cyclone792
05-04-2009, 11:57 PM
You know, there's a couple generations of Dead Ball Era players rolling around in their graves right now watching this team try to play small ball, speed centered offense.

forfreelin04
05-04-2009, 11:57 PM
Top of 12:

Burke Burdenhop in to pitch. That sounds made up.

Janish bounces a Charmin softy to 3rd. No chance for the 3rd baseman. A bit of luck for the Reds. Infield single.

(The chubby kid behind home plate goes back to whooping, spells doom for Darnell)

Darnell up to bunt. Takes one back, fouls one off, fouls another. Awful attempts by neck tat.
McDonny grounds into a 6-3 DP. Poor call by the first base ump. 2 out

Willy T bunts and the pitcher throws him out by a half step. He really just needs to bat left handed. 3 out

After 11 and 1/2, Reds 2 Marlins 2.

membengal
05-04-2009, 11:58 PM
Lincoln time.

Hanley up this inning too.

Reds Fanatic
05-04-2009, 11:58 PM
We have a small ball team that can't bunt, doesn't move runners over, doesn't steal much and gets caught about half the time they try.

OnBaseMachine
05-04-2009, 11:58 PM
I'm tired of seeing guys with ERA's of 8.00+ shutting the offense down. Badenhop is a guy they should rock.

Mike Lincoln? Lincoln against the heart of the order? Are you kidding? I'm definitely turning the game off now. Dusty is conceding the game.

Cyclone792
05-04-2009, 11:58 PM
Well, here we go with Lincoln.

Not much to do here but hope lady luck is on our side.

Caveat Emperor
05-04-2009, 11:58 PM
Well, nice checking in with ya'll. I'm going to hit the parking lot and try to beat traffic now that Lincoln is on to "pitch" ;)

Razor Shines
05-04-2009, 11:58 PM
I hope McDonald has enjoyed his time in the bigs, I'm sure it was a dream, but it's over. I hope to God that it's over.

mth123
05-04-2009, 11:58 PM
Lincoln. Game over.

CrackerJack
05-04-2009, 11:58 PM
Yup. Arroyo's a good bunter, as is Johnny Cueto. No sense not going to one of those guys in this situation, IMO.

Dunno, hate to risk a broken finger or a HBP with those two, might as well minimize those chances unless the game really means something late in the year. Gotta get that bunt down any ways.

Maybe I'm wrong, or that's what Dusty is thinking...

Reds Fanatic
05-04-2009, 11:59 PM
I would be surprised if Lincoln gets out of this inning.

alloverjr
05-04-2009, 11:59 PM
You know -- for all the talk of Wily Taveras' great speed, I don't think I've seen him leg out a single infield hit this year.

He's not impressed me with his speed either, which was suppose to be his bread and butter. I may be as fast as Willy.

CarolinaRedleg
05-05-2009, 12:00 AM
In comes Mike "Drive Safely" Lincoln.

fisch11
05-05-2009, 12:00 AM
As I watched the McDonald at bat and he went to 2 strikes, I said to myself, "Please leave the bunt on...a strikeout is much better than putting this ball in play." Sometimes you can just see it coming.

Reds Fanatic
05-05-2009, 12:01 AM
Paulino pops out. Danger here with Ramirez against Lincoln.

fisch11
05-05-2009, 12:01 AM
And wow did that ump just miss that nasty curve from Lincoln! Should have been rung up looking.

mth123
05-05-2009, 12:01 AM
Rosales and Janish on the left side of the IF. That may be the best defense in cincy in 5+ years.

Cyclone792
05-05-2009, 12:02 AM
Surprisingly, Lincoln doesn't look bad so far. Of course, he's prone to just leaving a meat ball over the plate that's capable of ending the game on one swing.

fisch11
05-05-2009, 12:02 AM
Wow. Lincoln just painted Hanley...didn't even go to the hook.

Reds Fanatic
05-05-2009, 12:02 AM
Great pitch. Ramirez strikes out looking.

alloverjr
05-05-2009, 12:02 AM
3 of the better pitches I've ever seen Lincoln throw to Ramirez.

membengal
05-05-2009, 12:03 AM
Zack Grienke spun a complete game shutout tonite. His numbers this year to start the season are simply unreal. Just unreal.

It's like Greg Maddux has come again. He is what young Greg Maddux used to be. Hard heat, ridiculous change of pace breaking stuff, pinpoint control. He's a joy to watch pitch.

Reds Fanatic
05-05-2009, 12:03 AM
Cantu doubles to left.

membengal
05-05-2009, 12:03 AM
There's bad Lincoln, right after good Lincoln. Bring back good Lincoln.

LoganBuck
05-05-2009, 12:04 AM
Pop goes the weasel.

Cyclone792
05-05-2009, 12:05 AM
There was the meat ball, and there was the extra base hit. Fortunately it stayed in the park.

Now teh Dusty is intentionally walking Uggla to put runners on 1st and 2nd. It wouldn't surprise me if Lincoln's control walks out of the building now with few spots remaining to put baserunners.

Reds Fanatic
05-05-2009, 12:05 AM
Zack Grienke spun a complete game shutout tonite. His numbers this year to start the season are simply unreal. Just unreal.

It's like Greg Maddux has come again. He is what young Greg Maddux used to be. Hard hear, ridiculous change of pace breaking stuff, pinpoint control. He's a joy to watch pitch.
Now 6-0 with an 0.40 ERA. Amazing. There is a great article about Grienke in today's USA Today. He almost quit the game a few years ago due to a social anxiety disorder he was suffering.

fisch11
05-05-2009, 12:06 AM
BP gives Mike another batter...saves the game...for now.

LoganBuck
05-05-2009, 12:06 AM
Gonzalez left with oblique strain to be evaluated by Kremchek in Cincy tomorrow.

Reds Fanatic
05-05-2009, 12:06 AM
Phillips knocks the ball down but can't get the runner out. Bases loaded. Phillips saved the game for now by not letting that ball get to the outfield.

membengal
05-05-2009, 12:06 AM
Lincoln vs. Cody Ross. Not feeling great about this.

fisch11
05-05-2009, 12:07 AM
We have seen Cody Ross walk off against us before.

The Baumer
05-05-2009, 12:07 AM
It has come to this...sad.

OnBaseMachine
05-05-2009, 12:07 AM
That's only Brett Carroll's second hit of the season.

Reds Fanatic
05-05-2009, 12:07 AM
1-2 count on Ross.

Caveat Emperor
05-05-2009, 12:08 AM
I'm seeing a walk-off walk in Cody Ross' future.

fisch11
05-05-2009, 12:08 AM
2 good curveballs to Ross in this AB.

Reds Fanatic
05-05-2009, 12:08 AM
Now a full count.

11larkin11
05-05-2009, 12:09 AM
I'm tired of seeing guys with ERA's of 8.00+ shutting the offense down. Badenhop is a guy they should rock.

Mike Lincoln? Lincoln against the heart of the order? Are you kidding? I'm definitely turning the game off now. Dusty is conceding the game.

I'm sure thats what Florida is saying about Jared Burton and Mike Lincoln right now. Except their offense is better than ours. So their fans should be irate.

People really need to stop complaining about the offense. Sure, get upset when McDonald can't get a bunt down, but vague statements like "this offense is anemic" are getting old. Look, this team is built around pitching. We have lots of it, and very good pitching. Its a little hard to have a good offense with the pitching we have. A team with the pitching like we have that has a good offense would be printing off world series tickets right now.

LoganBuck
05-05-2009, 12:09 AM
Why did the Reds burn Masset the only long guy in the bullpen earlier in the game for 1/3 of an inning? Who is the sacrificial lamb if this game keeps on going?

Cyclone792
05-05-2009, 12:09 AM
Mike Lincoln needs to send Cody Ross a big thank you gift for grounding out on ball four.