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nate
05-05-2009, 10:09 AM
Here's an interesting breakdown of what each position has provided so far this year:



Split G GS PA AB R H 2B 3B HR RBI SB CS BB SO BA OBP SLG OPS TB GDP HBP SH SF IBB ROE BAbip tOPS+ sOPS+
as C 25 102 91 9 26 5 0 1 8 3 1 9 11 .286 .350 .374 .724 34 2 0 2 0 0 0 .316 112 99
as 1B 25 110 96 13 35 10 0 3 22 1 1 12 20 .365 .445 .563 1.008 54 4 2 0 0 2 3 .438 194 138
as 2B 25 105 91 12 18 3 0 3 11 4 0 11 12 .198 .276 .330 .606 30 4 0 0 3 0 1 .190 77 59
as 3B 25 104 85 3 16 2 0 1 9 1 2 17 21 .188 .327 .247 .574 21 2 1 0 1 0 1 .234 70 53
as SS 25 99 90 6 20 3 0 2 11 1 1 3 19 .222 .268 .322 .590 29 3 3 2 1 1 1 .257 72 72
as LF 25 110 96 13 20 2 2 2 8 0 2 12 25 .208 .303 .333 .636 32 1 1 1 0 0 1 .261 86 59
as CF 25 114 96 17 24 4 0 0 3 5 1 8 16 .250 .312 .292 .604 28 0 2 5 3 0 2 .289 78 59
as RF 25 104 92 14 25 4 0 6 14 1 0 11 20 .272 .356 .511 .867 47 0 1 0 0 1 0 .288 152 117
as P 25 57 48 1 4 1 0 0 0 0 0 1 22 .083 .102 .104 .206 5 1 0 8 0 0 0 .154 -40 19
as PH 23 42 37 7 9 4 2 1 4 0 0 5 13 .243 .333 .541 .874 20 2 0 0 0 0 0 .348 153 150
as Infield 25 520 453 43 115 23 0 10 61 6 3 52 83 .254 .335 .371 .706 168 15 6 4 5 3 6 .288 107 87
as Outfield 25 328 284 44 69 10 2 8 25 6 3 31 61 .243 .323 .377 .700 107 1 4 6 3 1 3 .280 104 78
at Def. Pos. 25 420 368 44 88 15 0 6 33 9 1 31 58 .239 .302 .329 .631 121 9 5 9 7 1 4 .264 85 72
at Off. Pos. 25 428 369 43 96 18 2 12 53 3 5 52 86 .260 .358 .417 .776 154 7 5 1 1 3 5 .309 126 94Hey, look how well we're pinch hitting!

nate
05-05-2009, 10:11 AM
Here's the breakdown by batting order position:



Split G GS PA AB R H 2B 3B HR RBI SB CS BB SO BA OBP SLG OPS TB GDP HBP SH SF IBB ROE BAbip tOPS+ sOPS+
Batting 1st 30 25 114 97 17 23 4 1 0 2 5 1 8 17 .237 .303 .299 .602 29 0 2 5 2 0 2 .280 77 66
Batting 2nd 36 25 112 97 14 20 3 1 2 8 0 2 12 23 .206 .297 .320 .617 31 1 1 1 1 0 1 .247 81 60
Batting 3rd 25 25 110 96 13 35 10 0 3 22 1 1 12 20 .365 .445 .563 1.008 54 4 2 0 0 2 3 .438 194 139
Batting 4th 25 25 106 92 12 16 3 0 3 11 4 0 11 15 .174 .255 .304 .559 28 3 0 0 3 0 1 .169 63 34
Batting 5th 25 25 105 90 13 22 3 0 6 14 0 0 14 20 .244 .352 .478 .830 43 0 1 0 0 1 0 .250 141 113
Batting 6th 29 25 103 84 6 21 3 1 1 11 2 2 17 20 .250 .382 .345 .728 29 2 1 1 0 0 1 .317 114 91
Batting 7th 27 25 102 93 9 25 3 0 2 9 0 0 7 12 .269 .317 .366 .682 34 3 0 1 1 0 0 .288 100 91
Batting 8th 28 25 99 88 6 22 4 0 1 9 0 0 5 18 .250 .309 .330 .639 29 3 3 2 1 1 1 .300 87 74
Batting 9th 121 25 96 85 5 13 5 1 1 4 0 0 3 34 .153 .182 .271 .452 23 3 0 8 0 0 0 .240 31 51
Bat1-2non-P 59 50 226 194 31 43 7 2 2 10 5 3 20 40 .222 .300 .309 .609 60 1 3 6 3 0 3 .265 79 63
Bat3-6non-P 102 100 424 362 44 94 19 1 13 58 7 3 54 75 .260 .359 .425 .785 154 9 4 1 3 3 5 .292 129 95
Bat7-9non-P 90 50 240 218 19 56 11 1 4 22 0 0 14 42 .257 .308 .372 .680 81 8 3 3 2 1 1 .299 98 89


I see a disturbance in the Force!

membengal
05-05-2009, 10:22 AM
That really hurts my brain.

BRM
05-05-2009, 10:32 AM
Looks like it's all Jay Bruce and Joey Votto.

nate
05-05-2009, 10:37 AM
The catcher spot is doing OK too.

BRM
05-05-2009, 10:40 AM
The catcher spot is doing OK too.

Yes it is. The heavy lifting is still being done by Bruce and Votto but at least the catchers are pitching in.

TRF
05-05-2009, 10:43 AM
And the pinch hitters.

Scrap Irony
05-05-2009, 10:44 AM
Hard to believe the Reds are winning, according to those numbers. What really boggles my mind is that Rosales has been hitting the cover off the ball for a week now and 3B still is the worst offensive position. Of course, it's not like that's the only reason for the Red's offensive offense.

The other way to look at this is that those BABIP numbers are sure to rise. Has anyone ever played 140 games and had a BABIP below 200? Brandon Phillips is sure to get better, at least nominally, right?

nate
05-05-2009, 10:45 AM
And the pinch hitters.

We just need to pinch hit more, then!

cumberlandreds
05-05-2009, 10:58 AM
And the pinch hitters.

Maybe a couple of those PH should be starting?

Will M
05-05-2009, 11:06 AM
Votto rocks.
Bruce is pretty good also.
Hernandez/Hanigan & the bench are doing well.
Phillips, Gonzo, EE, Dickerson, Hairston & Taveras all suck.

The stats back up what we have been watching (painfully at times) over the last month.

nate
05-05-2009, 11:13 AM
I'm a little worried that Votto's due a big correction. That BABIP is pretty crazy.

TRF
05-05-2009, 11:14 AM
It's a decent bench, though at this point, I'd replace McDonald with Gomes.

I'd give Hanigan at least one start per week, which I guess he gets now as Arroyo's personal catcher.

Janish might be the starter pending results from AGon's examination. He'll start tonight I'm betting.

Dickerson IMO has started to flash signs that he's coming out of this. I expect a big night from him. IF Dusty starts him.

redsfandan
05-05-2009, 11:24 AM
I'm a little worried that Votto's due a big correction. That BABIP is pretty crazy.
By the same token, and like Scrap Irony said, the babip for some of those players (notably BP) is bound to improve. Over the course of the season it should balance out.

Will M
05-05-2009, 11:25 AM
Dickerson IMO has started to flash signs that he's coming out of this. I expect a big night from him. IF Dusty starts him.

i would like to see Dickerson play CF vs RHP and also get Nix in LF vs RHP.

BRM
05-05-2009, 11:28 AM
i would like to see Dickerson play CF vs RHP and also get Nix in LF vs RHP.

I could live with that for the time being.

dougdirt
05-05-2009, 12:29 PM
I'm a little worried that Votto's due a big correction. That BABIP is pretty crazy.

At the same time, take a look at what Jay Bruce is doing with a .250 BABIP.... Hopefully they both correct at the same time if it happens.

nate
05-05-2009, 12:53 PM
By the same token, and like Scrap Irony said, the babip for some of those players (notably BP) is bound to improve. Over the course of the season it should balance out.

True. But BP really needs a batting approach makeover. I don't think I've seen him hit one east of the pitcher's mound in a week.

nate
05-05-2009, 12:54 PM
At the same time, take a look at what Jay Bruce is doing with a .250 BABIP.... Hopefully they both correct at the same time if it happens.

Yep. When Bruce hits the ball, it's usually hard.