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Red Forman
05-06-2009, 09:23 AM
Per Cliff Corcoran/Inside Baseball

SI.com......


Cincy Reds Francisco "Coco" Cordero ranked @ #12......



http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/2009/writers/cliff_corcoran/04/29/closer.rankings/index.html?eref=T1

schmidty622
05-06-2009, 11:14 AM
That's probably about right. He's not among the elite but he's not as bad as a lot of the closers out there.

I would actually credit the signing of Cordero, more than any other factor, to the solidification of the bullpen we have seen over the last two years. I think he has been worth his contract because he has made the entire pen better.

RedLakerFan24
05-06-2009, 12:41 PM
Our pen has been really good except for Lincon, i just wish dusty would use Masset more, all of this has to be credited to Cordero, when we sign him for some reason we became one of the best pens in the league

mroby85
05-06-2009, 01:28 PM
I would take Cordero over Valverde, Broxton, Wood, or Mariano Rivera at this point.

bgwilly31
05-06-2009, 01:40 PM
Our pen has been really good except for Lincon, i just wish dusty would use Masset more, all of this has to be credited to Cordero, when we sign him for some reason we became one of the best pens in the league

mini danny herrera hasnt been good either.

xavr1
05-06-2009, 02:05 PM
I would take Cordero over Valverde, Broxton, Wood, or Mariano Rivera at this point.

I would take him over Valverde (who's hurt) and Wood, but not over Broxton and Rivera. I think Rivera blew maybe one save all of last year, and has blown one this year. Broxton is establishing himself as the best young closer in the game, with the exception of maybe Papelbon. He has nasty heat and is really settling in in LA. For long term purposes, I would prefer him to CoCo

mroby85
05-06-2009, 02:18 PM
I would take him over Valverde (who's hurt) and Wood, but not over Broxton and Rivera. I think Rivera blew maybe one save all of last year, and has blown one this year. Broxton is establishing himself as the best young closer in the game, with the exception of maybe Papelbon. He has nasty heat and is really settling in in LA. For long term purposes, I would prefer him to CoCo

Yeah, the main thing I meant about Rivera is at this point of his career, because I think he's closer to the end than coco, and more of an injury risk.

Ghosts of 1990
05-06-2009, 03:02 PM
That's probably about right. He's not among the elite but he's not as bad as a lot of the closers out there.

I would actually credit the signing of Cordero, more than any other factor, to the solidification of the bullpen we have seen over the last two years. I think he has been worth his contract because he has made the entire pen better.

Agree with his assesment. He's not top 10, but he's right outside the top 10. He's very servicable and among the guys who are not a liability and even a strength most of the time.

WildcatFan
05-06-2009, 03:53 PM
Our pen has been really good except for Lincon, i just wish dusty would use Masset more, all of this has to be credited to Cordero, when we sign him for some reason we became one of the best pens in the league

Don't sleep on Lincoln yet. He looked great in his two innings at Florida. I think he'll come around his stuff is just too good not to. As for Cordero, I am in the camp of dealing with the salary because it means you have one or two closer candidates available in the seventh and eighth innings. Remember three years ago when Arthur Rhodes would probably be our closer at this point?

I also think 12th is a little low. He's been blowing people away this year.

Kingspoint
05-06-2009, 05:22 PM
What a stupid ranking!!!!!

How about some facts:

Team.......................Save Opp.........Blown Saves............Save %

Cincinnati.....................7.................. ....0........................100
Philadelphia...................7.................. ....2.........................71
New York.....................10.....................3. ........................70
San Francisco................9......................3. ........................67
St. Louis......................14..................... 5..........................64
Atlanta.........................8................. .....3.........................63
Pittsburgh.....................8.................. ....3.........................63
Colorado.......................8.................. ....3.........................63
Chicago........................10................. ....4.........................60
Arizona.........................10................ .....4.........................60
Los Angeles...................17.....................7 .........................59
San Diego......................15..................... 7.........................53
Milwaukie.......................17................ .....8.........................53
Florida...........................10.............. .......5.........................50
Houston.........................12................ .....7.........................42
Washington....................10.................. ...7.........................30

cbowen2112
05-08-2009, 07:01 PM
What a stupid ranking!!!!!

How about some facts:

Team.......................Save Opp.........Blown Saves............Save %

Cincinnati.....................7.................. ....0........................100
Philadelphia...................7.................. ....2.........................71
New York.....................10.....................3. ........................70
San Francisco................9......................3. ........................67
St. Louis......................14..................... 5..........................64
Atlanta.........................8................. .....3.........................63
Pittsburgh.....................8.................. ....3.........................63
Colorado.......................8.................. ....3.........................63
Chicago........................10................. ....4.........................60
Arizona.........................10................ .....4.........................60
Los Angeles...................17.....................7 .........................59
San Diego......................15..................... 7.........................53
Milwaukie.......................17................ .....8.........................53
Florida...........................10.............. .......5.........................50
Houston.........................12................ .....7.........................42
Washington....................10.................. ...7.........................30

Make that 8 for 8 still 100% awesome stuff and 23 straight saves for Coco!

Captain Hook
05-09-2009, 12:24 AM
Make that 8 for 8 still 100% awesome stuff and 23 straight saves for Coco!

9 for 9 now!!!!34 in a row!!!!!

IMO he's one of the best in the biz.12th seems low to me.

Kingspoint
05-09-2009, 06:35 PM
9 for 9 now!!!!34 in a row!!!!!

IMO he's one of the best in the biz.12th seems low to me.

We are dominating when we get a lead for our bullpen.


Hope we can give them another lead tonight.