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Ghosts of 1990
05-13-2009, 09:35 PM
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Joey Votto was feeling much better Wednesday, but the dizzy spell he went through Tuesday left him a bit shaken.

“It came out of nowhere,” he said. “It was really, really odd and scary.”


Votto left the game in the bottom of the fourth. He had flied out to deep left-center in the top of the innng.

“Before my at-bat, I felt my heart really racing and I felt odd,” Votto said. “After the inning, I went back on the field and I couldn’t center myself.”


Votto missed four starts last week with the flu. He thinks that caused the dizziness.

“I don’t think I was dehydrated,” he said. “I’ve been doing my best to eat really well. I’ve been taking a lot of fluids because I know it’s really hot and dry here. I wouldn’t attribute it to dehydration.”


Votto was still feeling out of sorts well after he left the game.

“It took way too long to recover,” Votto said. “That’s what my concern was. I didn’t feel anywhere near regular until an hour, an hour and half after it happened. More than anything, it was frustrating. I’ve gotten dizzy before when I was younger, and I’d be back to normal in 20 minutes at the most. I think because I’m sick and have flu it wouldn’t allow me to recover.”

Votto thinks he'll be back Friday when the Reds open a series in San Diego. But he was fine with being out of the line Wednesday.

“The last thing I want to do is go out and have to come out of the game. I found it really embarrassing. Not that I did anything embarrassing. But I don’t want to do that again out of respect to my teammates.”


Ok so hear me out here. I think Votto should be tested for Lyme Disease. Some might laugh it off but I had the exact bouts Votto had unexplained out of nowhere too before I got sick. And I was his same age, and appeared to look very very healthy.

The flu-like symptoms, the dehydration. Then especially the profound dizziness and my heart racing and not being able to catch my breath.

I could certainly be wrong and hope and pray that I am. But I hope that the doctors think about this. This sounds like exactly what I was going through before I got diagnosed. Hopefully it was some other cause.

Billy_Bearcat
05-13-2009, 09:46 PM
Remember Nick Esasky.

Ghosts of 1990
05-13-2009, 09:49 PM
Remember Nick Esasky.

No I dont. What happened to him?


Edit: I found it. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nick_Esasky

schmidty622
05-13-2009, 09:56 PM
Don't you have to be bitten by a deer tick to get lyme disease?

Ghosts of 1990
05-13-2009, 10:15 PM
Don't you have to be bitten by a deer tick to get lyme disease?

Yes. And it's happening more and more frequently every day. Joey is from Toronto, Canada where it is pretty prevalent. Although it could have happened in Florida or Cincinnati just as easily.

schmidty622
05-13-2009, 10:20 PM
I would hope Joey's not walking around in random fields with long grass during the season.

GOYA
05-13-2009, 11:30 PM
He had the flu. Get over it.

Shawn_RedsFan
05-13-2009, 11:32 PM
Yes. And it's happening more and more frequently every day. Joey is from Toronto, Canada where it is pretty prevalent. Although it could have happened in Florida or Cincinnati just as easily.

You worry to much...you thought Bruce was headed to AAA...chill man chill ;)

JayBruceFan
05-14-2009, 02:31 AM
Swine Flu

DaytonFlyer
05-14-2009, 07:18 AM
Esasky was the first thing that popped to mind when I heard he had a dizzy spell.

Actually, the FIRST thing was "NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO", then the Esasky thing.

bounty37h
05-14-2009, 09:22 AM
Hope it isnt vertigo, my mom has been dealing with that for a long time now, and it hasnt been pretty for her.

Jefferson24
05-14-2009, 12:22 PM
It's just an isolated incident brought on by the flu. I doubt this type of thing will reoccur. The challenge will be staying hot once he returns.

nineworldseries
05-14-2009, 01:57 PM
I hope it's not Beriberi.

BucksandReds
05-14-2009, 04:04 PM
I think it's kuru. More human brains anyone?

Fon Duc Tow
05-14-2009, 05:31 PM
From a "fine piece of man candy" to a "sick young man."

Godspeed, little buddy. Godspeed...

Ghosts of 1990
05-17-2009, 12:21 AM
Still just a flu fellas? He's out of the game again tonight..... if you're not getting at least a little concerned, you are being naive.

steig
05-17-2009, 09:51 AM
I'm starting to get very nervous about Votto's health. I don't like the sound of having our star player seeing an internalist specialist.

Fon Duc Tow
05-17-2009, 10:59 AM
he'll be fine. I had vertigo off and on for a few weeks after I had the flu a few years ago.

Flying on an airplane doesn't help either, I can tell you that too.

scounts22
05-18-2009, 09:54 AM
he'll be fine. I had vertigo off and on for a few weeks after I had the flu a few years ago.

Flying on an airplane doesn't help either, I can tell you that too.

I hope you're right! :) If there's anyone who doesn't deserve this, it's Votto.

bounty37h
05-18-2009, 10:03 AM
he'll be fine. I had vertigo off and on for a few weeks after I had the flu a few years ago.

Flying on an airplane doesn't help either, I can tell you that too.

My mom has now had vertigo for over a year, has had to take medical disablity retirement from work, and cant walk more then 10 steps without getting dizyy, vomiting, or even passing out.

Dude Rock
05-18-2009, 10:18 AM
I had Vertigo once. Good movie.

Slyder
05-18-2009, 10:34 AM
he'll be fine. I had vertigo off and on for a few weeks after I had the flu a few years ago.

Flying on an airplane doesn't help either, I can tell you that too.

Think John Madden now that he's retired would let Votto use his bus and the team can have some epic made for reality road trips on road trips? We could call it "Seeing Red: Life on the Road with the Cincinnati Reds" :thumbup:.

I'm not worried about Votto, he'll be back in due time.

Ghosts of 1990
05-18-2009, 06:58 PM
More details as they arrive. This is more serious then the flu. I am worried about the guy's health.

http://news.cincinnati.com/apps/pbcs.dll/article?AID=/AB/20090518/SPT04/305180058/

In a release, the Reds said Votto, who has twice left games with dizziness, was admitted for tests at Scripps Clinic in San Diego as a precaution. Votto also missed five games last week with the flu.

Manager Dusty Baker said, "We don't know how concerned to be because we don't know what it is. And just because he has a bunch of tests doesn't mean they'll find out what it is. But we certainly hope so because losing him is a big blow."

xavr1
05-18-2009, 07:07 PM
Man thats kinda scary. I hope he's ok.

schmidty622
05-18-2009, 08:31 PM
Guess theres room for Yonder now.

NastyBoy
05-18-2009, 08:38 PM
I am wondering if he had a slight ear infection with his flu.

bgwilly31
05-18-2009, 08:50 PM
4 words.....


WERE IN BIG TROUBLE!

Ghosts of 1990
05-18-2009, 09:26 PM
It's vertigo or lyme disease

LouisvilleCARDS
05-18-2009, 10:16 PM
I wonder if they ruled out swine flu? That's a big topic of paranoia around the news lately. I hope the guy is okay, not just to play for us, but just in general. Unknown illnesses are always scary.

SidneySlicker
05-18-2009, 10:23 PM
Get well Joey.

mlh1981
05-18-2009, 11:22 PM
First and foremost, here's wishing a speedy recovery. That's the most important thing. I really hope this isn't something worse.

I hope the guys can all pick up the pace in his absence.

robmadden1
05-18-2009, 11:24 PM
I feel sad now from reading this. I hope he will be ok.

Ghosts of 1990
05-18-2009, 11:38 PM
i'm really concerned about the guy. 25 years old and in the prime of his life and I think we can all agree; its too young to be worrying about your health with the unknown. I've been there and its very scary. I will be praying for Joey not just as a member of my favorite team but for Joey the human being. I really hope as a bonus he can get back out there and continue his monster of a season; because this is his team now.

jhiller21
05-19-2009, 12:02 AM
This doesn't seem good, he's been through the tests and if it were an after-flu symptom or ear infection we would probably know about it by now. Vertigo is still a possibility, and that can go either way. Hopefully if that's the problem it's a quick recovery.

OesterPoster
05-19-2009, 06:50 AM
This doesn't seem good, he's been through the tests and if it were an after-flu symptom or ear infection we would probably know about it by now. Vertigo is still a possibility, and that can go either way. Hopefully if that's the problem it's a quick recovery.

Unfortunately, those of us old enough to know Nick Esasky won't ever say a quick recovery from vertigo is possible. Just hearing that word mentioned with Votto gives me chills.

bounty37h
05-19-2009, 09:59 AM
^I posted this on the other thread about Votto, my mom was diagnosed over a year ago with vertigo, and has only gone downhill since, even after seeing many different specialists. She had to take medical disablity leave at work, cant stand long, can barely move wihtout getting dizzy, nautious, and passing out, it has hindered her life in an extreme way. She is literally confined to her bed at home

schmidty622
05-20-2009, 07:20 AM
I think I have diagnosed Votto. If he stops doing this in the dugout he will be fine.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tjHswdVC71U

Ghosts of 1990
05-20-2009, 10:14 AM
I think we should probably stop making jokes.

“Joey has undergone a series of tests at the Scripps Clinic in San Diego and here in Cincinnati, and we have more tests scheduled over the next few days,” Reds trainer Mark Mann said. “After those additional tests, we will be more prepared to discuss the cause of his dizziness.”

Votto was in the clubhouse just prior to Tuesday’s game and said, “I can’t tell you anything right now, I just can’t say. They (the Reds) will tell you what you need to know at some point.”

robmadden1
05-20-2009, 12:13 PM
Votto Update:

The no-news update, for now: The Reds said Tuesday that Joey Votto will continue to undergo more tests for his recent dizzy spills. Votto on Tuesday saw Cincinnati internist Dr. Stephen Cleves in Cincinnati. A spokesperson at Cleves' office this morning referred all questions back to the Reds, who have not announced anything new today.

I also checked in this morning with the office of Reds medical director Dr. Timothy Kremchek. Spokesperson Jayne Walker, via e-mail, said Kremchek is not permitted to speak about players' specific condition symptoms or recovery.

We would expect the Reds will have some kind of update today, given the high interest in this unusual case.

Blog and Internet speculators are raising the name Nick Esasky, the former Red whose career was derailed by vertigo in the early 1990s. Most of us not being doctors, who truly knows? Seeing Votto in the clubhouse and the dugout yesterday, to the untrained eye you would not know anything is wrong. But obviously, something is.

http://news.cincinnati.com/apps/pbcs.dll/section?category=blog07&plckController=Blog&plckScript=blogScript&plckElementId=blogDest&plckBlogPage=BlogViewPost&plckPostId=Blog%3ae57bcc87-152a-4f72-96fb-cc08b1f396efPost%3aae948059-30a6-4ad5-9673-34eab90b7b2b&sid=sitelife.cincinnati.com

bgwilly31
05-20-2009, 12:40 PM
Hopefully its nothing serious.

texasdave
05-21-2009, 11:39 AM
Bump for a J. Votto update:

http://news.cincinnati.com/apps/pbcs.dll/section?category=blog07&plckController=Blog&plckScript=blogScript&plckElementId=blogDest&plckBlogPage=BlogViewPost&plckPostId=Blog%3ae57bcc87-152a-4f72-96fb-cc08b1f396efPost%3a9f77e955-157c-4374-ada2-26453b7f91f3&sid=sitelife.cincinnati.com


Votto has inner ear infection
Posted by TomGroeschen at 5/21/2009 11:18 AM EDT on Cincinnati.com

Reds trainer Mark Mann just met with reporters in Dusty Baker's office and gave the announcement regarding Joey Votto's recent bouts with dizziness:

Inner ear infection (left ear). Votto is on medication and will do some light workouts and hitting before the game today, then again tomorrow. Not in the lineup today, playing status day to day.

Drs. Stephen Cleves (internist) and Reds medical director Tim Kremchek came to the conclusion that the inner ear infection had caused Votto's dizziness, Mann said.

Votto had some history of inner ear infections as a youth, Mann said. Votto underwent a battery of tests the past several days.

"The only thing that came back irregular was the audiology test, indicating he had an inner ear infection," Mann said. "That was secondary to the upper respiratory infection he had 10 days ago, which from I get from Dr. Cleves is a common occurrence," Mann said.

Votto was not immediately available to comment.

Reds manager Dusty Baker said he was "thankful and grateful" with the news.

"I'm just glad they found what it was, No. 1," Baker said. "There was a lot of stuff floating around out there, a lot of neighborhood doctors."

More to come.

bgwilly31
05-21-2009, 11:42 AM
Bump for a J. Votto update:

http://news.cincinnati.com/apps/pbcs.dll/section?category=blog07&plckController=Blog&plckScript=blogScript&plckElementId=blogDest&plckBlogPage=BlogViewPost&plckPostId=Blog%3ae57bcc87-152a-4f72-96fb-cc08b1f396efPost%3a9f77e955-157c-4374-ada2-26453b7f91f3&sid=sitelife.cincinnati.com


THATS GREAT NEWS!

Heres to a speedy recovery.

He might even be available this weekend vs the indians.

cbowen2112
05-21-2009, 11:42 AM
Bump for a J. Votto update:

http://news.cincinnati.com/apps/pbcs.dll/section?category=blog07&plckController=Blog&plckScript=blogScript&plckElementId=blogDest&plckBlogPage=BlogViewPost&plckPostId=Blog%3ae57bcc87-152a-4f72-96fb-cc08b1f396efPost%3a9f77e955-157c-4374-ada2-26453b7f91f3&sid=sitelife.cincinnati.com

This is huge! I had a feelin git was an ear infection. A student of mine in band has an ear infection and was always dizzy while trying to play. Whew...he'll be back sooner than later!

WILD THING
05-21-2009, 11:43 AM
I was very relieved when I heard the news this morning, as was Joey, I'm sure! :thumbup:

mroby85
05-21-2009, 12:09 PM
:D:D

Reds report 1B Joey Votto has been diagnosed with an inner ear infection, secondary to the upper respiratory infection (flu) he had last week...all other test results were normal...the Reds expect him to return to the field in the next few days...since 5/7, Votto has missed 8 starts with the flu or dizziness and twice more left games early.

This is according to FSN Ohio on Facebook :thumbup:

Jr's Boy
05-21-2009, 12:34 PM
Good news,just a regular ailment. Taken from experience inner ear infections are really miserable if you've ever had one.After effects from that flu he had I'm sure.

Dude Rock
05-21-2009, 01:07 PM
Yeah. I heard it on WLW. Dusty and Marty were talking about it. Everyone seems relieved. They are going to put Joey through some workouts before putting him in a game, but Dusty said he should be in the lineup tomorrow night.

YES!!!!!

bounty37h
05-21-2009, 01:09 PM
Best news of this young season so far!!!

Dude Rock
05-21-2009, 01:21 PM
It wouldn't surprise me to see the Reds bust out this weekend again!!!

mroby85
05-21-2009, 01:21 PM
I agree, that makes being down 4-0 in the 2nd inning not seem so bad, lol.

bounty37h
05-21-2009, 02:16 PM
Way to ruin the moment Mroby :)

LouisvilleCARDS
05-21-2009, 02:18 PM
I used to get those a lot. One time I had one so bad I was taking a shower and fell down from the vertigo, I couldn't tell which way was up.

steig
05-21-2009, 04:37 PM
Great news on Votto.

corwinator3407
05-21-2009, 04:45 PM
Thank goodness. I was thinking 1-2 this weekend, 2-1 hopefully now with him back.

foxfire123
05-21-2009, 09:01 PM
Excellent news! I used to be really prone to ear infections, and when I got a bad one, I couldn't walk across the room without crashing into the wall, so I know how the boy feels... I was hoping it was something minor like this, and not a tumour or something drastic.

Ghosts of 1990
05-21-2009, 10:55 PM
Celebrate!

CRedsLarkin11
05-22-2009, 02:07 PM
Yeah, what a scare this was. If any team loses their best player you will see the effects on the field, especially when it's someone who means so much offensively like Votto does. Hopefully the Reds can pick it back up when he returns

Krawhitham
05-22-2009, 02:29 PM
Nick Esasky's vertigo stemmed from an ear infection

Just saying

cbowen2112
05-22-2009, 04:32 PM
Nick Esasky's vertigo stemmed from an ear infection

Just saying

Dude, come on!

corwinator3407
05-22-2009, 04:52 PM
Votto not in the lineup again tonight, I'd look for him Saturday.

Krawhitham
05-22-2009, 05:05 PM
Dude, come on!


...but was forced to retire after playing just nine games due to developing vertigo stemming from an ear infection.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nick_Esasky

Slyder
05-22-2009, 05:05 PM
Nick Esasky's vertigo stemmed from an ear infection

Just saying

Okay Debbie Downer :P.

gilpdawg
05-22-2009, 11:59 PM
Nick Esasky's vertigo stemmed from an ear infection

Just saying
Yeah, and the fact that you can't name anybody else who had to retire due to an ear infection that would up being severe vertigo in the last 19 years leads me to believe it's something that doesn't happen often, Mr. Paranoia. Do you work for a major news organization?

brachial pleXUs
05-23-2009, 02:29 AM
Okay Debbie Downer :P.

http://sidesalad.net/archives/DebbieDownerRachaelDratch.jpg

Dude Rock
05-23-2009, 03:51 AM
Yeah, this argument is starting to sound like THE MATRIX.

WILD THING
05-23-2009, 02:29 PM
Well Votto's back in the lineup tonight (5/23). Here's to hoping he's 100% and ready to continue the sweep of the Tribe :beerme:

Shawn_RedsFan
05-23-2009, 02:31 PM
Thats great news, I think the bats are going to come alive tonight

WILD THING
05-23-2009, 02:33 PM
Thats great news, I think the bats are going to come alive tonight

I hope you're right. An early lead sure could do a lot for Homer's confidence and success in tonight's game.

bgwilly31
05-23-2009, 03:45 PM
Well Votto's back in the lineup tonight (5/23). Here's to hoping he's 100% and ready to continue the sweep of the Tribe :beerme:


I just heard the same thing.

Woot, hope he comes out blazing.

Kingspoint
05-23-2009, 08:43 PM
I wish I could recover like that.

Krawhitham
05-30-2009, 04:07 PM
DL for stress?

Nick Esasky was DL'ed for the same reason once upon a time

Ghosts of 1990
05-30-2009, 04:09 PM
This thread I'm afraid is not going to look all that stupid in the coming months. I would love to be wrong.

JayBruceFan
05-31-2009, 01:28 AM
Im still going with what I said no matter how insane it may sound

gilpdawg
05-31-2009, 02:09 AM
He has labyrinthitis. We already know this. Flying exacerbates this. It also causes anxiety in a lot of cases. There's your "stress-related" issue. This is nothing more than a side effect from his illness. The sky is not falling, he'll just need a little bit of time to get himself back together.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Inner_ear_infection

Ghosts of 1990
05-31-2009, 10:00 AM
He has labyrinthitis. We already know this. Flying exacerbates this. It also causes anxiety in a lot of cases. There's your "stress-related" issue. This is nothing more than a side effect from his illness. The sky is not falling, he'll just need a little bit of time to get himself back together.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Inner_ear_infection

Or it could last a decade

gedred69
05-31-2009, 09:48 PM
I'm thinking it's a personal thing. Does anyone know if he's married? Or got a supposed girlfriend? Anything up with his family? His extended family seems to be rather close-knit...

Ghosts of 1990
05-31-2009, 09:50 PM
They said its health related.

bounty37h
06-01-2009, 10:41 AM
Baker and Jocketty said it is only part health related, but not the main issue for this leave of absense.

foxfire123
06-02-2009, 07:32 PM
Didn't he take some time off last season for a family issue also?

Jerry Narron
06-02-2009, 08:14 PM
Didn't he take some time off last season for a family issue also?

He and his dad were very close but Joey's father passed away last August I beleive. Hopefully Joey's doing okay and not suffering from some of the supposed rumors I've heard

Ghosts of 1990
06-02-2009, 08:15 PM
He and his dad were very close but Joey's father passed away last August I beleive. Hopefully Joey's doing okay and not suffering from some of the supposed rumors I've heard

Vestibular disorder or something else?

The Voice of IH
06-02-2009, 08:42 PM
Votto is very private, he does not let his personal life get in in the public spot light too often. don't expect to hear the true reason to come out anytime soon, if ever. I respect him for that, hopefully he gets though it and comes back as hot as he left.