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Red in Chicago
05-16-2009, 09:33 PM
Per Fay:

Willy Taveras 8
Jerry Hairston 5
Joey Votto 3
Brandon Phillips 4
Jay Bruce 9
Ramon Hernandez 2
Laynce Nix 7
Alex Gonzalez 6
Edinson Volquez 1 vs. RHP Josh Geer (0-1, 5.14). Volquez is 0-1 with 1.17 ERA in two games against the Padres.

Reds Fanatic
05-16-2009, 11:07 PM
Taveras flies out to center. 1 out.

Reds Fanatic
05-16-2009, 11:08 PM
Hairston grounds out to 3rd. 2 outs.

Reds Fanatic
05-16-2009, 11:10 PM
Votto flies out to center. 0-0 mid 1st.

OnBaseMachine
05-16-2009, 11:10 PM
Looks like another bad strikezone tonight. Votto took a 3-0 pitch just above the ankles for a called strike one. He flied out on the next pitch.

Screwball
05-16-2009, 11:12 PM
Greer's lucky that 3-1 to Votto wasn't hit out of the park. That was thigh-high down the middle.

Reds Fanatic
05-16-2009, 11:13 PM
Giles homers to right. 1-0 Padres.

OnBaseMachine
05-16-2009, 11:13 PM
Another great start. Volquez serves up a lead off homer to a guy with one HR in 134 atbats.

Reds Fanatic
05-16-2009, 11:14 PM
Not off to a good start tonight. Eckstein doubles to left.

Reds Fanatic
05-16-2009, 11:15 PM
Gonzalez grounds out to 2nd. Eckstein moves to 3rd.

Reds Fanatic
05-16-2009, 11:17 PM
4 pitch walk to Hairston. 1st and 3rd.

Screwball
05-16-2009, 11:17 PM
I woulda pitched around Hairston as well.

BCubb2003
05-16-2009, 11:18 PM
Sounds like Marty and Jeff are giving up on Volquez.

Reds Fanatic
05-16-2009, 11:18 PM
Gerut sac fly to left. Throw home was late and Hairston goes to 2nd on the throw home. 2-0 Padres.

Screwball
05-16-2009, 11:19 PM
Sounds like Marty and Jeff are giving up on Volquez.

I'm almost scared to ask, but what are they saying?

Reds Fanatic
05-16-2009, 11:19 PM
A long foul ball by Kouzmanoff

OnBaseMachine
05-16-2009, 11:20 PM
The Padres atrocious offense has scored seven runs in the first 10 innings of this series.

Reds Fanatic
05-16-2009, 11:20 PM
Kouzmanoff grounds out to 3rd. 2-0 Padres after 1.

VR
05-16-2009, 11:21 PM
Gerut sac fly to left. Throw home was late and Hairston goes to 2nd on the throw home. 2-0 Padres.


With Nix' arm, I was thinking that was going to be a lot closer.

BCubb2003
05-16-2009, 11:22 PM
I'm almost scared to ask, but what are they saying?

Questioning his fire, saying he doesn't have the will to win that Cueto does, that this is why Texas let him walk.

Screwball
05-16-2009, 11:22 PM
Welsh says the Pads are hitting Volquez as if he's tipping his pitches. Wonder if there's anything to that.

Reds Fanatic
05-16-2009, 11:24 PM
Phillips with a broken bat soft line out to the pitcher. 1 out.

Reds Fanatic
05-16-2009, 11:25 PM
Bruce grounds out to 2nd. 2 outs.

Screwball
05-16-2009, 11:25 PM
Questioning his fire, saying he doesn't have the will to win that Cueto does, that this is why Texas let him walk.

Of course. It's never a mechanical issue, a small sample size, or due to true talent level. Rather, it's because the player just simply doesn't care. Lame.

Reds Fanatic
05-16-2009, 11:27 PM
Hernandez walks on a 3-2 pitch.

Screwball
05-16-2009, 11:28 PM
Wow, that 3-2 to Hernandez looked like strike 3 to me, yet called ball 4.

Reds Fanatic
05-16-2009, 11:30 PM
Nix with a long fly out to the track in center. Gerut makes a leaping catch. 2-0 Padres mid 2nd.

Screwball
05-16-2009, 11:31 PM
Nix woulda had a HR in just about any other ballpark.

Kc61
05-16-2009, 11:32 PM
Nix woulda had a HR in just about any other ballpark.

Reds always seem to hit a lot of long fly ball outs in San Diego. Maybe a different approach would help matters.

Reds Fanatic
05-16-2009, 11:33 PM
Hundley lines a single to left.

Reds Fanatic
05-16-2009, 11:34 PM
Burke pops out to 2nd. 1 out.

VR
05-16-2009, 11:34 PM
SD is (was) 29th in the league in hitting.

Reds Fanatic
05-16-2009, 11:35 PM
Geer sacrifices the runner to 2nd. 2 outs.

Reds Fanatic
05-16-2009, 11:38 PM
The ump is really squeezing the strike zone tonight. The 0-2 and 2-2 pitches looked good. Giles walks on the 3-2 pitch

OnBaseMachine
05-16-2009, 11:39 PM
I thought Volquez was going to throw a gem tonight. I was wrong. With his stuff, against this offense, I thought he would go about seven innings and allow one run or less and strikeout 10+ like he did against them last season but he doesn't seem to have his great stuff tonight.

Reds Fanatic
05-16-2009, 11:40 PM
Eckstrein grounds out to Volquez. 2-0 Padres after 2.

VR
05-16-2009, 11:41 PM
Seems like EV should be at about 50 pitches, but he's only at 31. Let's hope his troubles are behind him and he can go a solid 7 tonight

Screwball
05-16-2009, 11:42 PM
Seems like EV should be at about 50 pitches, but he's only at 31. Let's hope his troubles are behind him and he can go a solid 7 tonight

Or 6 and then Dusty correctly pulls him for a PHer. ;)

Reds Fanatic
05-16-2009, 11:43 PM
Gonzalez grounds out to the pitcher. 1 out.

VR
05-16-2009, 11:44 PM
Looks like EV only gets those called strikes when he's batting, not pitching.

Reds Fanatic
05-16-2009, 11:44 PM
Volquez strikes out swinging. 2 outs.

Screwball
05-16-2009, 11:45 PM
Geer is pumping 1st pitch strikes to everybody.

And the Reds offense looks anemic again.

Reds Fanatic
05-16-2009, 11:45 PM
Taveras strikes out swinging. 2-0 Padres mid 3rd.

OnBaseMachine
05-16-2009, 11:46 PM
Josh Geer entered this game with a 5.14 ERA and .839 OPS against. He's got a no-hitter through three innings tonight.

Kc61
05-16-2009, 11:47 PM
Pads must have quite a starting pitching staff. All these guys seem like All Stars against the Reds.

VR
05-16-2009, 11:47 PM
Josh Geer entered this game with a 5.14 ERA and .839 OPS against. He's got a no-hitter through three innings tonight.

If every team called up 3 Double A mediocre pitches for every series....the Reds might lose 130 games. This is a 10 yr. trend.

Geer has a ML era of 4, and a k rate just about 5 per nine. Cryptonite.

Reds Fanatic
05-16-2009, 11:49 PM
Gonzalez singles to left.

alloverjr
05-16-2009, 11:50 PM
Volquez getting hit pretty hard.

Screwball
05-16-2009, 11:51 PM
If every team called up 3 Double A mediocre pitches for every series....the Reds might lose 130 games. This is a 10 yr. trend.

Geer has a ML era of 4, and a k rate just about 5 per nine. Cryptonite.

It really makes you wonder if the Reds have any MiL advance scouts that are worth a darn.

Reds Fanatic
05-16-2009, 11:53 PM
Hairston lines out to short. 1 out.

VR
05-16-2009, 11:53 PM
EV fooling no one, and getting no help from the ump. Not a good formula.

These guys are teeing off on him....as Hairston drills one foul down the line...then a BB to Gonzo for the out.

Screwball
05-16-2009, 11:53 PM
Volquez just ain't foolin' nobody tonight, as his 0 K total would suggest (along with all the rocket shots).

Reds Fanatic
05-16-2009, 11:54 PM
Gerut flies out to center. 2 outs.

VR
05-16-2009, 11:54 PM
Jody Gerut hits a 2 iron to dead center, Taveras tracks it down.

VR
05-16-2009, 11:55 PM
It really makes you wonder if the Reds have any MiL advance scouts that are worth a darn.

The curse of Marge Schott continues.

Reds Fanatic
05-16-2009, 11:56 PM
Kouzmanoff strikes out swinging. 2-0 Padres after 3.

VR
05-16-2009, 11:57 PM
He fooled somebody! Now let's get the bats going and take the wind out of the Pads sails.

Kc61
05-16-2009, 11:57 PM
Ok Reds how about some patience at the plate? How about some offense?

Screwball
05-16-2009, 11:57 PM
Volquez has some REALLY good break on his curveball. If he could locate it with any sort of frequency, it'd be another plus pitch in his arsenal.

Screwball
05-16-2009, 11:59 PM
Another first pitch strike from Geer to start the 4th...

Reds Fanatic
05-17-2009, 12:00 AM
Hairston doubles to left center.

Screwball
05-17-2009, 12:01 AM
Hairston doubles to left center.

Very good start to the inning with Votto, Phillips and Bruce due up.

penantboundreds
05-17-2009, 12:03 AM
Gotta cash this in.

Reds Fanatic
05-17-2009, 12:03 AM
Votto flies out to center. Hairston goes to 3rd. 1 out.

Reds Fanatic
05-17-2009, 12:04 AM
Phillips grounds out to short. 2-1 Padres. 2 outs.

VR
05-17-2009, 12:05 AM
I feel like they just got a run off of Johann Santana

Reds Fanatic
05-17-2009, 12:05 AM
Bruce grounds out to 1st. 2-1 Padres mid 4th.

Screwball
05-17-2009, 12:06 AM
Gotta cash this in.

They did, but for some reason it feels like a letdown.

And Bruce's struggles continue.

Reds Fanatic
05-17-2009, 12:08 AM
Votto has had to leave the game. Rosales is in at 1st.

VR
05-17-2009, 12:08 AM
Votto comes out. Let me be the 1st in line to say I'm now very very concerned about Votto's health.

Reds Fanatic
05-17-2009, 12:08 AM
I am starting to wonder if whatever is wrong with Votto is more serious than just the flu.

Reds Fanatic
05-17-2009, 12:09 AM
Hundley grounds out to short. 1 out.

Reds Fanatic
05-17-2009, 12:11 AM
Burke grounds out to Volquez. 2 outs.

Reds Fanatic
05-17-2009, 12:11 AM
Geer grounds out to short. 2-1 Padres after 4.

VR
05-17-2009, 12:12 AM
Thank you for swinging at the 1st pitch Mr. Geer.

6-3 GO, EV now at 60 pitches through 4 and getting his legs under him.

Screwball
05-17-2009, 12:13 AM
Votto comes out. Let me be the 1st in line to say I'm now very very concerned about Votto's health.

JayBruce32 on the SunDeck was talking about Lyme Disease with regards to Votto. Let's just hope it's not that serious.

Reds Fanatic
05-17-2009, 12:15 AM
Hernandez singles to right as Giles cuts that ball off in the corner.

Screwball
05-17-2009, 12:15 AM
Hernandez loves him some RF.

Reds Fanatic
05-17-2009, 12:16 AM
Nix hits an absolute bomb!! 3-2 Reds!!!

membengal
05-17-2009, 12:16 AM
That'll play.

Red in Chicago
05-17-2009, 12:16 AM
NIXY!!!!

Screwball
05-17-2009, 12:16 AM
Holy crap, that was beat.

VR
05-17-2009, 12:17 AM
JayBruce32 on the SunDeck was talking about Lyme Disease with regards to Votto. Let's just hope it's not that serious.

That's one option.....there's about 10 more with equal ugliness based on his symptons.


Laynce got his chaynce, he made the ball daynce. Ding Dong.

OnBaseMachine
05-17-2009, 12:17 AM
I missed his first atbat, but Fay says Gerut robbed Nix of a HR in his first atbat. That could've been his second HR of the night.

Reds Fanatic
05-17-2009, 12:17 AM
Gonzalez grounds out to 3rd. 1 out.

redsfaninbsg
05-17-2009, 12:17 AM
They need to sit Votto down and figure out what is going on, this is starting to get scary, and I don't mean for the hopes of the 09 Reds but for Votto's well being.

Reds Fanatic
05-17-2009, 12:18 AM
Volquez grounds out to Geer. 2 outs.

VR
05-17-2009, 12:18 AM
I missed his first atbat, but Fay says Gerut robbed Nix of a HR in his first atbat. That could've been his second HR of the night.

He didn't rob him.....but he hit a shot that would be out at a lot of parks.

Screwball
05-17-2009, 12:19 AM
I missed his first atbat, but Fay says Gerut robbed Nix of a HR in his first atbat. That could've been his second HR of the night.

Well Nix was robbed, but not by Gerut. Petco was to blame.

BCubb2003
05-17-2009, 12:21 AM
I hope it's not Nick Esasky again.

Reds Fanatic
05-17-2009, 12:22 AM
Taveras grounds out to 3rd. 3-2 Reds mid 5th.

redsfaninbsg
05-17-2009, 12:24 AM
I don't mean to turn the game thread into medical talk 101 but does stuff like this normally wait to rear its head this late in someones life? Votto is in his mid 20's wouldn't this appear earlier? I'm probably way off base as I have no clue about anything regarding medical conditions.

Reds Fanatic
05-17-2009, 12:25 AM
Giles lines out to short. 1 out.

LvJ
05-17-2009, 12:25 AM
I'm all about Chris Dickerson and his eco-friendly ways, but I don't see how you can not play Laynce Nix right now.

Reds Fanatic
05-17-2009, 12:27 AM
Eckstein flies out to center. 2 outs.

Screwball
05-17-2009, 12:27 AM
Volquez' curve looks better than his changeup tonight.

LvJ
05-17-2009, 12:28 AM
Anyway we can trade for Scott Hariston and Jayson Nix?

We'd have an a family atmosphere in the clubhouse for sure. ;)

VR
05-17-2009, 12:28 AM
I hope it's not Nick Esasky again.

I was at the game against the Giants in 87 when Nick hit a 9th inning grand salami to make the Reds 10-6 winners. It hit the top of the left field fence, and landed about 4 feet from me.

I had some NE love after that for awhile, but he was a heart breaker. Tough end to his career as well after a great year in Atlanta.

VR
05-17-2009, 12:30 AM
EV gave these guys their chances early.....he's a rollin now.

Screwball
05-17-2009, 12:30 AM
Volquez has now retired 9 in a row.

Reds Fanatic
05-17-2009, 12:30 AM
Volquez strikes Gonzalez out on a 94 MPH fastball. Volquez has really turned this start around and has now retired 9 in a row. 3-2 Reds after 5.

VR
05-17-2009, 12:32 AM
Reds are putting runs up this inning.

CTA513
05-17-2009, 12:32 AM
Gonzalez was at 3-0 and swung at ball 4 and then ended up striking out.

:ughmamoru

Kc61
05-17-2009, 12:33 AM
Volquez is throwing great. I saw him live against the Marlins and he is nasty. This game, after the first inning, he has been nasty. Hope he can pitch a few more innings.

As for Votto, I think we should all hold off until the Reds have him checked out further. Maybe it's just the lingering effects of the flu.

Reds Fanatic
05-17-2009, 12:33 AM
Diving catch by Gerut on Hairston's line drive.

Reds Fanatic
05-17-2009, 12:34 AM
4 pitch walk to Rosales.

Screwball
05-17-2009, 12:35 AM
I think Geer forgot Rosales is hitting for Votto.

VR
05-17-2009, 12:35 AM
As for Votto, I think we should all hold off until the Reds have him checked out further. Maybe it's just the lingering effects of the flu.


I'd have him on a flight back to Cincy right now in hope of having him correctly evaluated and properly hydrated and recovered for Philly on Tuesday.

LvJ
05-17-2009, 12:35 AM
Swine Flu can linger for six to eight weeks :runaway:

Reds Fanatic
05-17-2009, 12:37 AM
Phillips fouls out to 1st. 2 outs.

Screwball
05-17-2009, 12:37 AM
I vote Phillips has to start with 2 strikes on him from now on.

VR
05-17-2009, 12:38 AM
Bruce is gonna jack one here.

jojo
05-17-2009, 12:39 AM
I vote Phillips has to start with 2 strikes on him from now on.

kinda ugly, that one.

redsfaninbsg
05-17-2009, 12:39 AM
Bruce is gonna jack one here.

Predict that more often:thumbup:

Screwball
05-17-2009, 12:39 AM
Bruuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuce!!!!

Reds Fanatic
05-17-2009, 12:40 AM
Bruce hits a shot to left center. 11th HR for Bruce this year. 5-2 Reds!

OnBaseMachine
05-17-2009, 12:40 AM
Bruce is gonna jack one here.

Great call. :beerme:

cincy09
05-17-2009, 12:40 AM
BRUCE !!!

OUReds
05-17-2009, 12:40 AM
:bowrofl:
Bruce is gonna jack one here.

Screwball
05-17-2009, 12:40 AM
Bruce is gonna jack one here.

:notworthy

Reds Fanatic
05-17-2009, 12:40 AM
Hernandez singles to left center. His 2nd hit and has been on base all 3 times tonight.

VR
05-17-2009, 12:41 AM
Great call. :beerme:

Good for Jay....I just love a lefty that jacks one to left center.

Reds Fanatic
05-17-2009, 12:43 AM
Joe Thatcher in to pitch

Screwball
05-17-2009, 12:44 AM
Thatcher is a LOOGY if I've ever seen one.

jojo
05-17-2009, 12:45 AM
Good for Jay....I just love a lefty that jacks one to left center.

It wasnt windblown either....

VR
05-17-2009, 12:45 AM
Crap call on strike 2

Reds Fanatic
05-17-2009, 12:45 AM
Nix strikes out swinging. The 3-1 pitch was high. 5-2 Reds mid 6th.

Kc61
05-17-2009, 12:47 AM
Volquez with 76 pitches so far. Let's see if he can be efficient and go deep into this game.

OnBaseMachine
05-17-2009, 12:47 AM
Crap call on strike 2

The 3-0 pitch was outside...called strike one. 3-1 pitch was high...called strike two. Just a brutal strikezone there.

Reds Fanatic
05-17-2009, 12:49 AM
Hairston pops out to 2nd. 1 out.

Screwball
05-17-2009, 12:49 AM
Thom asks what the difference is between Volquez now and earlier in the game. I'm submitting it's because he recognized his curve is working tonight and his CH isn't. Very good adjustment/recognition by EV and Hernandez, IMO.

Reds Fanatic
05-17-2009, 12:51 AM
Gerut flies out to center. 2 outs.

membengal
05-17-2009, 12:53 AM
Memo to the apparently grumpy Reds' radio announcing crew and Thom B with his confusion as to what has changed with Volquez after the first few innings tonite:

The concept of "if you are going to get to _______, get to him early" applies to Reds pitchers sometimes too. Volquez is a quality pitcher, and sometimes it takes a few innings for guys to get their rhythm.

Doesn't mean they don't care. Doesn't mean they are not trying hard. Just means that sometimes it takes a few innings to get right.

Reds Fanatic
05-17-2009, 12:54 AM
Kouzmanoff walks on a 3-2 pitch.

Screwball
05-17-2009, 12:56 AM
Volquez done lost the strike zone.

Reds Fanatic
05-17-2009, 12:57 AM
They are now visiting Volquez to see if he might have hurt himself on the last pitch.

OnBaseMachine
05-17-2009, 12:57 AM
This looks a lot like Volquez's last start. Two outs, nobody on base, then two straight walks which led to runs.

Reds Fanatic
05-17-2009, 12:58 AM
And Volquez is hurt. Apparently hurt his back and has to leave.

Reds Fanatic
05-17-2009, 12:58 AM
Lincoln is coming in.

RFS62
05-17-2009, 12:59 AM
Man, what is going on here?

Kc61
05-17-2009, 01:00 AM
Seems like Volquez hurt his back. He's out of the game, Lincoln coming in. Hard to tell if it's anything serious, but you can be sure Reds will be cautious with this guy.

Matt Maloney, get ready.

Screwball
05-17-2009, 01:00 AM
Reds have a had some crummy luck health wise. They've already had to play without a single starter in the IF for a couple games, now our best hitter and arguable #2 starter leave the game earlier than they should have due to sickness/injury.

OnBaseMachine
05-17-2009, 01:00 AM
Lincoln? Why Lincoln in a close game?

VR
05-17-2009, 01:01 AM
Man, what is going on here?

The San Diego experience.
Votto got some nasty fish tacos
Volquez tweaked his back surfing.

redsfaninbsg
05-17-2009, 01:02 AM
Put some money online, and won a little on the horse race earlier, bet it on the Reds tonight and give a run and a half and all this happens. Don't know if I'm cursed or if the Reds are.

Kc61
05-17-2009, 01:03 AM
Lincoln? Why Lincoln in a close game?

I think Nix K'd to end the last inning. So the pitcher's spot is coming up next inning. Lincoln only needs to get one out. Then he could be removed.

Keep in mind that Massett is hurt, likely to be DL'd for several days.

So there aren't too many options.

VR
05-17-2009, 01:03 AM
Lincoln? Why Lincoln in a close game?

Masset is hurt
Rhodes, Weathers pitched last night
It's the 6th inning
He's scoreless over his last 5

Reds Fanatic
05-17-2009, 01:04 AM
Hundley strikes out swinging. 5-2 Reds after 6.

OnBaseMachine
05-17-2009, 01:05 AM
Nice start by Volquez after getting off to a rough start. Hopefully his back will be OK.

VR
05-17-2009, 01:05 AM
:clap: Mike Lincoln.

3-0 and not warmed up...very nice job.
I'd let him go another inning or so....he's only thrown 1 inning in the last 10 days

Kc61
05-17-2009, 01:07 AM
Nice strikeout by Lincoln who came in with a 3 and 0 count.

I've noticed that Lincoln's thrown better the last few times out. I wouldn't be shocked if Dusty let him stay in this game for another inning. Taking V out so early left several relief innings to be pitched and Massett is out.

I don't know how others think, but Dusty has been using the Rhodes and Weathers combo very often these days. I wouldn't mind seeing a bit more of Lincoln and Burton. They've both had some time to straighten things out.

Reds Fanatic
05-17-2009, 01:07 AM
Greg Burke making his major league debut in to pitch for the Padres.

VR
05-17-2009, 01:08 AM
Nice strikeout by Lincoln who came in with a 3 and 0 count.

I've noticed that Lincoln's thrown better the last few times out. I wouldn't be shocked if Dusty let him stay in this game for another inning. Taking V out so early left several relief innings to be pitched and Massett is out.

I don't know how others think, but Dusty has been using the Rhodes and Weathers combo very often these days. I wouldn't mind seeing a bit more of Lincoln and Burton. They've both had some time to straighten things out.

100% agree KC, good assessment

Reds Fanatic
05-17-2009, 01:09 AM
Gonzalez grounds out to short. 1 out.

OnBaseMachine
05-17-2009, 01:10 AM
I think Mike Lincoln needs a bigger helmet.

VR
05-17-2009, 01:11 AM
I think Mike Lincoln needs a bigger helmet.

lol, that is classic stuff right there.

Reds Fanatic
05-17-2009, 01:11 AM
Lincoln strikes out swinging. 2 outs.

LvJ
05-17-2009, 01:12 AM
Gosh, I hope Votto and Volquez is okay. :(

Reds Fanatic
05-17-2009, 01:12 AM
Taveras grounds out to 3rd. 5-2 Reds mid 7th.

Screwball
05-17-2009, 01:13 AM
Taveras grounds out to 3rd.

Not trying to tknock the guy, but WT hasn't hit a ball hard since he left Arizona.

Reds Fanatic
05-17-2009, 01:14 AM
Burke flies out to center on the first pitch. 1 out.

VR
05-17-2009, 01:15 AM
Not trying to tknock the guy, but WT hasn't hit a ball hard since he left Arizona.

your dead on SB, but at least he's hitting them on the ground the last couple of ab's, not the 3 feeble pop flys he had earlier.

Reds Fanatic
05-17-2009, 01:15 AM
E. Gonzalez pinch hits and homers to left. 5-3 Reds.

Reds Fanatic
05-17-2009, 01:16 AM
Rhodes coming in to pitch

OnBaseMachine
05-17-2009, 01:17 AM
Edgar Gonzalez entered this game with a .611 OPS...of course he takes Lincoln deep.

I'd love to Lincoln released and Carlos Fisher brought up. Won't happen though.

_Sir_Charles_
05-17-2009, 01:18 AM
Has anybody heard any kind of update on Edinson or Joey yet? I'm only listening to WLW and not watching.

Kc61
05-17-2009, 01:18 AM
Arthur Rhodes is coming in because Giles and Adrian G will both be up. So Rhodes should face the next three hitters, two lefties.

Disappointing that Lincoln gave up that homer. Last year, even in the first half of the season when he was effective, Lincoln gave up several homers.

Reds Fanatic
05-17-2009, 01:20 AM
Giles grounds out to 2nd. 2 outs.

Reds Fanatic
05-17-2009, 01:20 AM
Has anybody heard any kind of update on Edinson or Joey yet? I'm only listening to WLW and not watching.
So far no update on either one.

Reds Fanatic
05-17-2009, 01:21 AM
Eckstein flies out to right. 5-3 Reds after 7.

Kc61
05-17-2009, 01:22 AM
Rhodes gets 'em down and the seventh is over. Rhodes has been unreal. With an off day Monday, Dusty might let Rhodes pitch the entire eighth inning. He won't. I suspect Rhodes will face Adrian G and then Weathers will enter.

_Sir_Charles_
05-17-2009, 01:22 AM
Thanks RF.

By the way, when was the last time we had a pitcher go this far into the season without allowing an earned run yet? A pitcher who gets used often that is? For Rhodes to be at 0.00 at this point in the year is simply impressive as hell as far as I'm concerned.

_Sir_Charles_
05-17-2009, 01:24 AM
Mr. Meredith: "can I buy a vowel?"

Votto left the game with mild dizzyness and will be examined in Cincy.
Edinson left game with back spasms.

VR
05-17-2009, 01:25 AM
Merideth has wiffle ball action on that pitch

Reds Fanatic
05-17-2009, 01:25 AM
Mild dizziness for Votto and mild back spasms for Volquez.

Votto will be examined by a doctor in Cincinnati on Monday

Reds Fanatic
05-17-2009, 01:26 AM
Hairston flies out to right. 1 out.

Reds Fanatic
05-17-2009, 01:27 AM
Rosales singles to left.

VR
05-17-2009, 01:28 AM
If BP can think right field he may get an RBI double here.

Reds Fanatic
05-17-2009, 01:29 AM
Phillips flies out to right. 2 outs.

VR
05-17-2009, 01:29 AM
If BP can think right field he may get an RBI double here.


jjjjjjust missed it

Reds Fanatic
05-17-2009, 01:31 AM
Bruce grounds out to 1st. 5-3 Reds mid 8th.

VR
05-17-2009, 01:32 AM
Wow...didn't realize left center was 401 at this park......Bruce put some serious hurt on that dinger

VR
05-17-2009, 01:34 AM
"best trio of relievers"

How many years since we've heard that?

Reds Fanatic
05-17-2009, 01:38 AM
Gonzalez walks. 10 pitch AB.

Reds Fanatic
05-17-2009, 01:38 AM
Weathers coming in.

Reds Fanatic
05-17-2009, 01:41 AM
Hairston doubles to the right field corner. 2nd and 3rd with no outs.

toledodan
05-17-2009, 01:42 AM
"best trio of relievers"

How many years since we've heard that?



maybe not much longer.

membengal
05-17-2009, 01:42 AM
In the olden days, of Bruce Sutter yore, THIS is where you bring in your closer. In this high-leverage situation.

Reds Fanatic
05-17-2009, 01:42 AM
Gerut grounds out to 1st. 5-4 Reds. Runner on 3rd with 1 out.

Mario-Rijo
05-17-2009, 01:42 AM
Anyone digging Hairston yet?

Kc61
05-17-2009, 01:42 AM
One run game. Could be extra innings. Is Harang ready?

mbgrayson
05-17-2009, 01:43 AM
Rhodes first earned run....

_Sir_Charles_
05-17-2009, 01:43 AM
I jinxed Rhodes a while back. Sorry guys, my bad.

5-4 Reds.

Reds Fanatic
05-17-2009, 01:43 AM
That is the first earned run charge to Rhodes all year.

toledodan
05-17-2009, 01:43 AM
the problem with weathers here is he pitches to contact.

Reds Fanatic
05-17-2009, 01:44 AM
Kouzmanoff walks. 1st and 3rd.

toledodan
05-17-2009, 01:45 AM
1st and 3rd 1 out. maybe a pitch around to set up a DP.

_Sir_Charles_
05-17-2009, 01:45 AM
Sure would be a nice time for a DP here.

toledodan
05-17-2009, 01:46 AM
big out 2 down!

Reds Fanatic
05-17-2009, 01:46 AM
Big out. Hundley pops out to Gonzalez. 2 outs

_Sir_Charles_
05-17-2009, 01:46 AM
IF popup. *whew* One more. One more.

Reds Fanatic
05-17-2009, 01:47 AM
Headley hitting for Burke

dougdirt
05-17-2009, 01:47 AM
Maybe its just me... but I would love to see Cordero come in here. I don't want the ball in play, bring in a guy who can miss a bat. So what if he has to face 4 batters to get the save.

OnBaseMachine
05-17-2009, 01:48 AM
Maybe its just me... but I would love to see Cordero come in here. I don't want the ball in play, bring in a guy who can miss a bat. So what if he has to face 4 batters to get the save.

I agree. No way I let Weathers pitch to Headley here.

Lead off walks will haunt.

Reds Fanatic
05-17-2009, 01:48 AM
4 pitch walk as this ridiculous strike zone continues.

toledodan
05-17-2009, 01:48 AM
this tight strike zone is going to bite us in the a$$.

Kc61
05-17-2009, 01:49 AM
Weathers walks Headley and the bases are loaded.

That walk should have an asterisk next to it, since several of those pitches looked like strikes.

_Sir_Charles_
05-17-2009, 01:49 AM
OBM: "I've got a bad feeling about this."

In this situation...I'd be agreeing with OBM....if he'd say it. :O)

Kc61
05-17-2009, 01:50 AM
Maybe its just me... but I would love to see Cordero come in here. I don't want the ball in play, bring in a guy who can miss a bat. So what if he has to face 4 batters to get the save.

Coco could walk twenty guys with this strike zone.

Reds Fanatic
05-17-2009, 01:51 AM
Full count. Of course the last pitch was again a strike called a ball. Tie game run is walked in.

_Sir_Charles_
05-17-2009, 01:51 AM
BB to tie the game. *sigh*

OnBaseMachine
05-17-2009, 01:51 AM
Horrible. Horrible. Horrible.

3-1 lead with 10 outs to hold a two run lead last night. Blew it.

Eight outs to hold a three run lead tonight. Blew it. Against one of the worst three offenses in the game.

jojo
05-17-2009, 01:52 AM
Weathers is a 6th inning guy.

VR
05-17-2009, 01:52 AM
Jim Joyce is an idiot

CrackerJack
05-17-2009, 01:52 AM
I believe Weathers got robbed there

OnBaseMachine
05-17-2009, 01:52 AM
Weathers is a 6th inning guy.

Yes he is.

fearofpopvol1
05-17-2009, 01:52 AM
Jim Joyce needs to go. This guy is putrid at calling balls and strikes. What does he want? The buy right down the middle??

toledodan
05-17-2009, 01:52 AM
baseball needs to check in on this crap!

_Sir_Charles_
05-17-2009, 01:52 AM
Edinson deserved a win tonight. Crud.

Hererra in.

OnBaseMachine
05-17-2009, 01:52 AM
This is embarrassing. The Padres are the worst team in baseball.

Reds Fanatic
05-17-2009, 01:53 AM
Horrible when umps end up deciding the results of a game.

fearofpopvol1
05-17-2009, 01:53 AM
Weathers is a 6th inning guy.

Not Weathers' fault. The ump hosed him. He's done just fine in the 8th inning this year.

TheBurn
05-17-2009, 01:53 AM
I believe Weathers got robbed thereI believe EV did... ;)

Chip R
05-17-2009, 01:53 AM
Weathers screwed himself. None of those pitches to Headley were strikes then he let Joyce get to him. He's a vetera, he shouldn't let an umpire get to him like that.

mbgrayson
05-17-2009, 01:53 AM
Weathers was squeezed. There were several on the corners, and they were all called balls. Gameday showed a number of them should have been strikes.

The Baumer
05-17-2009, 01:54 AM
Come on, don't lose this game! Not collapsing on a west coast trip was the last checkpoint to distinguishing this team from Reds teams of the past.

CTA513
05-17-2009, 01:54 AM
7th walk by Reds pitchers tonight

TeamBoone
05-17-2009, 01:54 AM
I believe Weathers got robbed there

I agree. It was crap umpiring rather than crap pitching.

thatcoolguy_22
05-17-2009, 01:54 AM
i just started watching the game. (internet connection problems...) This home plate ump seems ridiculous. These umpire crews need to go to just 1 or 2 members of the crew being home plate umps so we don't have to deal with this retardedness...

Lets go DH

mbgrayson
05-17-2009, 01:55 AM
Weathers is a 6th inning guy.

Oh come on! Weathers has been great this year, overall. One outing where the ump squeezed him, and he's a a sixth inning guy?

fearofpopvol1
05-17-2009, 01:55 AM
If Weathers had thrown the same strike that Herrera just struck Giles out with, it would've been called a ball for sure.

dougdirt
05-17-2009, 01:55 AM
I know it worked out.... but really, Danny Herrera in the 8th inning with the bases loaded and a tight strike zone?

Reds Fanatic
05-17-2009, 01:56 AM
If that pitch called a strike there was called a strike when Weathers was out the there the Reds still have the lead. Tie game 5-5 after 8.

_Sir_Charles_
05-17-2009, 01:56 AM
DRH sits him down. Should've been in earlier I'd think. It was pretty obvious that Weathers didn't have it. Poor strike zone or not, David was all over the place.

Kc61
05-17-2009, 01:56 AM
Anyone who criticizes Weathers isn't watching the game.

He's thrown the same pitches he always throws for strikes. This umpire wouldn't call a strike.

What's worse is that the Padres nonhitters are just standing there. They know they won't get strikes called on them. So they stand there.

Now Herrera gets a called third strike.

You guys can call Weathers a sixth inning pitcher, which is not so, he's pitched beautifully for years in the eighth and ninth. That one wasn't on him.

VR
05-17-2009, 01:56 AM
I agree. It was crap umpiring rather than crap pitching.

TeamBoone is in the HOUSE! That pretty much wraps up a Reds win!

thatcoolguy_22
05-17-2009, 01:56 AM
Finally a strike 3 called. What happened to Votto?

membengal
05-17-2009, 01:57 AM
Unreal. That called strike 3 to end the inning was off the plate.

I am sorry, but anyone hopping on Weathers, please. Joyce's strike zone is an illusion wrapped in an enigma.

The only thing I hope is that he returns the favor when the Reds are hitting.

KC...I think the Reds have already said Owings is their failsafe long out of the pen, since his next turn to the mound has been pushed back to Wednesday.

Reds Fanatic
05-17-2009, 01:57 AM
Finally a strike 3 called. What happened to Votto?Left with dizziness

Mario-Rijo
05-17-2009, 01:58 AM
DRH sits him down. Should've been in earlier I'd think. It was pretty obvious that Weathers didn't have it. Poor strike zone or not, David was all over the place.

True I didn't think he was close enough in the zone to garner any of those balls, except for the inside pitch to Headley that was without a doubt a strike.

Reds Fanatic
05-17-2009, 01:58 AM
Heath Bell in to pitch. Josh Wilson in at short.

Chip R
05-17-2009, 01:58 AM
This is embarrassing. The Padres are the worst team in baseball.


If that's true it doesn't say much about the Reds.

OnBaseMachine
05-17-2009, 01:58 AM
I'm stunned. The Reds are facing the worst team in baseball and two straight nights they've been blown 2+ run leads with less than ten outs to go. Horrible.

jojo
05-17-2009, 01:58 AM
Not Weathers' fault. The ump hosed him. He's done just fine in the 8th inning this year.

The 8th didn't come down to a close call on a pitch.... it's all on the guy who pitched. Weathers has the stuff of a middle reliever. He isn't a high leverage arm.

fearofpopvol1
05-17-2009, 01:58 AM
The Reds hitters should just stand there unless it's right down the heart of the plate.

OnBaseMachine
05-17-2009, 01:58 AM
If that's true it doesn't say much about the Reds.

Yep.

Reds Fanatic
05-17-2009, 02:00 AM
Hernandez grounds out to Bell. 1 out.

membengal
05-17-2009, 02:00 AM
OBM: Do me a favor, and look up SD's record at home. Amuse me.

_Sir_Charles_
05-17-2009, 02:00 AM
I know the zone was bad guys, but a good majority of them WERE out of the zone...the REAL zone. Not trying to bash David here (and I'm a known Weathers basher...can't stand him) but that wasn't all on the ump.

George Anderson
05-17-2009, 02:01 AM
Unreal. That called strike 3 to end the inning was off the plate.



I agree

Thats probally a sign that Joyce knew he hosed hosed Weathers on the last pitch.

Sometimes if a ump knows he blew a pitch he will give a bit of leeway the other way to make amends.