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Reds Fanatic
05-17-2009, 04:14 PM
Lineups:


Lineups

Reds (20 - 16)
4th in NL Central
Padres (15 - 22)
3rd in NL West

Starting Lineup

Name AVG HR RBI SB
1. C Dickerson, CF .214 1 6 0
2. J Hairston Jr., 3B .247 3 9 4
3. J Bruce, RF .238 11 23 3
4. B Phillips, 2B .268 6 27 4
5. L Nix, LF .308 3 9 0
6. A Rosales, 1B .286 2 6 0
7. R Hanigan, C .310 0 2 0
8. P Janish, SS .345 0 2 0
9. B Arroyo, P .091 0 0 0

Starting Lineup

Name AVG HR RBI SB
1. D Macias, CF .333 1 2 0
2. E Gonzalez, 2B .170 3 6 0
3. A Gonzalez, 1B .302 15 29 1
4. C Headley, LF .246 3 15 4
5. K Kouzmanoff, 3B .222 1 9 1
6. J Gerut, RF .222 4 13 2
7. J Wilson, SS .000 0 0 0
8. H Blanco, C .146 3 4 0
9. J Peavy, P .000 0 0 0

Starting Pitcher
Name W L ERA* WHIP K
B Arroyo 5 2 7.02 1.61 23

Starting Pitcher
Name W L ERA* WHIP K
J Peavy 2 5 4.30 1.23 61

remdog
05-17-2009, 04:56 PM
Interesting:

The Reds are 4 games over .500 and are 4th in the NL Central.

The Pads are 7 games under .500 and are 3rd in the NL West.

The NL Central is no longer the laughing stock of the NL. ;)

Rem

GAC
05-17-2009, 05:03 PM
can anyone else get into chat? When I click on the chat link, all I get is the smilie page. What gives?

GAC
05-17-2009, 05:06 PM
Figured Dusty would have Ramon playing 1B since Ryan is catching.

VR
05-17-2009, 05:07 PM
Pretty sure 7 of the 8 starters today....were playing in the minor leagues 1 year ago.

GAC
05-17-2009, 05:09 PM
CDick with a leadoff dbl

remdog
05-17-2009, 05:09 PM
can anyone else get into chat? When I click on the chat link, all I get is the smilie page. What gives?


I get the same response.

Rem

VR
05-17-2009, 05:10 PM
Great ab by Dickerson, nothing like a leadoff double to get the day started.

dougdirt
05-17-2009, 05:11 PM
And that is why you don't sacrifice in the first inning when the guy is already standing on 2B....

VR
05-17-2009, 05:11 PM
I'm going to go out on a limb and suggest Hairston get out of the sacrifice bunt business.
3 horrific results from his last 3 attempts.

Blitz Dorsey
05-17-2009, 05:12 PM
Why in the heck would they bunt Hairston instead of just hitting the ball to the other side? Every other team in MLB does it with ease against the Reds (hits the ball to the right side with a man on second and no outs). We decide to have a horrible bunter kill the inning for us. Brilliant!

GAC
05-17-2009, 05:12 PM
I hate it when Baker has guys bunting in that situation. Why? And it was terrible base runing by CDick too on JHJ's bunt back to the pitcher.

VR
05-17-2009, 05:12 PM
Why in the heck would they bunt Hairston instead of just hitting the ball to the other side? Every other team in MLB does it with ease against the Reds (hits the ball to the right side with a man on second and no outs). We decide to have a horrible bunter kill the inning for us. Brilliant!

Because we are the Reds.

dougdirt
05-17-2009, 05:13 PM
Why in the heck would they bunt Hairston instead of just hitting the ball to the other side? Every other team in MLB does it with ease against the Reds (hits the ball to the right side with a man on second and no outs). We decide to have a horrible bunter kill the inning for us. Brilliant!
Better yet, just hit the ball. Dickerson is a fast guy, he is going to score from 2B on nearly every hit you can get outside of an infield single. Why waste an out in the 1st inning?

GAC
05-17-2009, 05:16 PM
OK. I'm Jake Peavied that the chat link ain't working :D

remdog
05-17-2009, 05:17 PM
OK. I'm Jake Peavied that the chat link ain't working :D


Time to bunt. ;)

Rem

dougdirt
05-17-2009, 05:19 PM
Its going to be a long day isn't it?

GAC
05-17-2009, 05:19 PM
BA starting off great. Puts the first two on

GAC
05-17-2009, 05:21 PM
Time to bunt. ;)

Rem

This is why the mods should have to wear pagers like Drs. I mean after all - what's more important? :p:

Red in Chicago
05-17-2009, 05:23 PM
BA coming back. Gonzo pops out followed by a K...two outs, two on...

GAC
05-17-2009, 05:24 PM
broken bat single 1-0 SD

GAC
05-17-2009, 05:27 PM
Another hit, another run

2-0 now.

BA is gonna have close to 30 pitches after this inning

remdog
05-17-2009, 05:27 PM
This is why the mods should have to wear pagers like Drs. I mean after all - what's more important? :p:

You do realize that those pagers aren't connected to anyone outside. The Doc's just trigger them so that they can have an excuse to leave you standong there for a couple of hours. :p:

Rem

remdog
05-17-2009, 05:30 PM
Another hit, another run

2-0 now.

BA is gonna have close to 30 pitches after this inning

This is the biggest reason that I decided not to drive down to SD (a few outside things too) but Bronson Arroyo drives me nuts! I would rather see anyone else pitch for the Reds other than Arroyo. Even Lincoln. Hmmmm, come to think of it, there's a good chance that we'll see Lincoln. :eek:

Rem

GAC
05-17-2009, 05:37 PM
This is the biggest reason that I decided not to drive down to SD (a few outside things too) but Bronson Arroyo drives me nuts! I would rather see anyone else pitch for the Reds other than Arroyo. Even Lincoln. Hmmmm, come to think of it, there's a good chance that we'll see Lincoln. :eek:

Rem

My super at work is a big BA fan. Whenever he gets nailed in a game I love to give him a hard time by wearing my Bronson hat w/ the blond wig to work. They were a give away a couple years ago at a Reds game.

remdog
05-17-2009, 05:39 PM
My super at work is a big BA fan. Whenever he gets nailed in a game I love to give him a hard time by wearing my Bronson hat w/ the blond wig to work. They were a give away a couple years ago at a Reds game.

Good look, no doubt! :lol:

Rem

GAC
05-17-2009, 05:40 PM
Good look, no doubt! :lol:

Rem

I look like Custer :p:

remdog
05-17-2009, 05:42 PM
I look like Custer :p:

Before or after the....well, you know. :)

Rem

Falls City Beer
05-17-2009, 05:49 PM
What's the score? inning?

GAC
05-17-2009, 05:50 PM
3rd inning

2-0 Pads........

so far :D

GAC
05-17-2009, 05:52 PM
I'm so bored - what a lazy afternoon for me - I'm clicking on other links to see if they might open up chat! :p:

GAC
05-17-2009, 05:53 PM
The Pads are making some solid contact on BA so far

GAC
05-17-2009, 05:54 PM
out of inning

top of 4th...

JHJ, Bruce, BP due up

Red in Chicago
05-17-2009, 05:55 PM
End of 3. Pads 2 - Reds 0

Peavy at 35 pitches
Arroyo at 53 pitches

Reds with only 1 hit so far

remdog
05-17-2009, 05:55 PM
Just create 'chat' here. Of course there are only about 4 people here....:eek:

Rem

GAC
05-17-2009, 05:57 PM
maybe 3.... wife wants to go get something to eat. ;)

MississippiRed
05-17-2009, 05:58 PM
I'm following along, Rem. It is disheartening, though. I believe we missed our chances the past two nights to make it a winning road trip.

remdog
05-17-2009, 06:00 PM
I've got the Tim McCarver show on MLB (I know, I know, it's my own fault....) and he's interviewing Carlton Fisk. Naturally, the HR in the 6th game in '75 comes up.

Fisk comes off to me as bitter. Also, I've never heard him note that, despite that HR, the Reds actually won the WS. There are a lot of general baseball fans out there that think the BoSox won that series and it really chaps my butt....:rolleyes:

BTW, seeing the fingers on Fisk's right hand, they look like they are a map for the Mississippi River.

Rem

Red in Chicago
05-17-2009, 06:02 PM
Peavy at 50 pitches through 4

MississippiRed
05-17-2009, 06:02 PM
Top 4th:
Hairston - 6-3
Bruce F7
Phillips F3

remdog
05-17-2009, 06:03 PM
I'm following along, Rem. It is disheartening, though. I believe we missed our chances the past two nights to make it a winning road trip.

Yep. Those were two tough games to swallow.

Beating Peavy with Arroyo is a tough task.

Going into this series the Reds were hot and the Pads were stone cold. If the Reds get blanked in SD, frankly, that's not acceptable.

Rem

remdog
05-17-2009, 06:05 PM
Ops, I see I mis-spelled Mississippi in a previous post. :eek:

Rem

CTA513
05-17-2009, 06:10 PM
Arroyo with 3 walks this inning and now the bases are loaded for Gonzalez.

Red in Chicago
05-17-2009, 06:11 PM
BA has walked the bases loaded

Red in Chicago
05-17-2009, 06:12 PM
BA owes Phillips a steak dinner. Nice job by BP getting to that line drive

Degenerate39
05-17-2009, 06:12 PM
BA is one lucky man

MississippiRed
05-17-2009, 06:12 PM
BA has walked the bases loaded

Again, unacceptable. Shouldn't they look at the schedule and just cancel Arroyo in day games? He should have pitched last night and Dusty could have Owings for today.

CTA513
05-17-2009, 06:13 PM
Phillips saved Arroyo from giving up 2 more runs.

Red in Chicago
05-17-2009, 06:13 PM
Still 2 - 0 after 4

BA with 74 pitches

MississippiRed
05-17-2009, 06:14 PM
Bottom 4th:

Bronson scatters a strikeout, a flyout, and a lineout around three walks. Luckily, no runs for the Padres.

MississippiRed
05-17-2009, 06:15 PM
Ops, I see I mis-spelled Mississippi in a previous post. :eek:

Rem

Just sing the song.:)

remdog
05-17-2009, 06:15 PM
Again, unacceptable. Shouldn't they look at the schedule and just cancel Arroyo in day games? He should have pitched last night and Dusty could have Owings for today.

I tend to look at stats like that very skeptically but, I have to admit, it seems to be happening too often for it not to have some validity. It was (just a tiny part) of why I didn't want to drive to SD to watch Bronson Arroyo.

Rem

CTA513
05-17-2009, 06:16 PM
Peavy making it look easy

remdog
05-17-2009, 06:18 PM
Peavy making it look easy

Or, is it the Reds making Peavy make it look easy? :)

Rem

Red in Chicago
05-17-2009, 06:18 PM
15 in a row by Peavy...59 pitches, which by my count, means a 9 pitch 5th by Jake

MississippiRed
05-17-2009, 06:18 PM
Peavy making it look easy

Yes, and at under 12 pitches per inning, he'll be able to do it for at least 10 innings.

remdog
05-17-2009, 06:19 PM
Just sing the song.:)

If you knew me you'd know I can't sing and you would spare yourself that kind of torture. :)

Rem

MississippiRed
05-17-2009, 06:26 PM
Great at-bat by Gerut. Bronson in closing in on being done. Perhaps I was too harsh on him, he has just given up 5 hits and 2 runs so far.

CTA513
05-17-2009, 06:26 PM
2-0 Padres after 5 innings

Arroyo at 87 pitches

Red in Chicago
05-17-2009, 06:27 PM
BA at 87 pitches through 5.

Pads still lead 2 - 0

Reds still stuck with 1 hit.

Reds/Flyers Fan
05-17-2009, 06:31 PM
Reds should just forfeit all games played in California. Same results but less wear and tear on pitchers

Red in Chicago
05-17-2009, 06:32 PM
DICKERSON!! HR

MississippiRed
05-17-2009, 06:33 PM
Dickerson with even a better at-bat than Gerut. 2-1!!

After Janish and Arroyo made 2 outs on three Peavey pitches.

CTA513
05-17-2009, 06:33 PM
Dickerson makes Peavy throw some pitches and ends up hitting a homer to make it 2-1 Padres

remdog
05-17-2009, 06:34 PM
Dickerson seems to have a clue today. Everyone else....nada.

Rem

Falls City Beer
05-17-2009, 06:40 PM
If the Reds could grab this game after what happened last night, I think you'd have to call the road trip an unmitigated success. Fingers crossed.

BCubb2003
05-17-2009, 06:40 PM
Padres 2, Dickerson 1.

redsmetz
05-17-2009, 06:46 PM
Just an update, Bruce grounded out and Phillips K'd; Nix up now.

redsmetz
05-17-2009, 06:47 PM
Nixed strikes out too, going to bottom of 7th, 2-1 Padres.

Stephenk29
05-17-2009, 06:48 PM
Now we have 1 run in the past 16 innings.

remdog
05-17-2009, 06:48 PM
Six outs left. Spend 'em wisely, boys.

Rem

redsmetz
05-17-2009, 06:54 PM
Edgar Gonzalez flies out to CD in Center, Adrian Gonzalez grounds out Phillips to Rosales.

redsmetz
05-17-2009, 06:55 PM
Argh, swing and a miss and Hanigan drops the ball, but Headley flies out to CF. Going to the 8th.

MississippiRed
05-17-2009, 06:57 PM
Bronson wound up with a good outing. Let's get some runs!

Red in Chicago
05-17-2009, 06:59 PM
BA's line through 7:
2 earned runs
5 hits
4 walks
4 k's

110 pitches.

Red in Chicago
05-17-2009, 07:01 PM
Hanigan with a single. Tying run on base.

Red in Chicago
05-17-2009, 07:03 PM
Janish hits into inning ending dp...Pads 2, Reds 1 bottom of 8th coming up

MississippiRed
05-17-2009, 07:09 PM
Now he makes a visit to the mound?

Benihana
05-17-2009, 07:09 PM
Not sure why Arroyo is back out there after having thrown 110 pitches. I would have brought in Danny Ray, who faced one batter last night, and pinch-hit for him in the bottom of the inning. If the Reds came back, Cordero could pitch the 9th. Tomorrow's an off-day.

MississippiRed
05-17-2009, 07:23 PM
Reds lose 3-1. What a sucky 2nd half of the road trip.

CTA513
05-17-2009, 07:23 PM
Swept by the mighty Padres.

Red in Chicago
05-17-2009, 07:24 PM
Well, overall, BA kept the Reds in the game today, after a very shaky start. Going against Peavy, the Reds still had a chance to tie all the way into the 9th inning. Finished road trip 3 - 3, which is better than in years past. Unfortunately, the California portion never seems to go well.

Off day tomorrow, with Phillies coming to town on Tuesday.

oneupper
05-17-2009, 07:24 PM
From sweepers to sweepees. So it goes.

WVRedsFan
05-18-2009, 01:19 AM
I leave town for three days and...

Oh well. This team is better than the last four Reds teams, but still has it's problems. One is chemistry. NO, I cannot define that term, but they seemed to have it just three games ago. The chemistry we saw in Arizona disappeared in San Diego. I'll leave you to your own conclusions on that, but more on that later. I just feel good that I didn't have to watch this series. It would have broken my heart.

WVPacman
05-18-2009, 01:29 AM
I leave town for three days and...

Oh well. This team is better than the last four Reds teams, but still has it's problems. One is chemistry. NO, I cannot define that term, but they seemed to have it just three games ago. The chemistry we saw in Arizona disappeared in San Diego. I'll leave you to your own conclusions on that, but more on that later. I just feel good that I didn't have to watch this series. It would have broken my heart.


I watched all three games and the reds looked like a completly different team than the last series againist the dbacks.We all know that the past few years that we have not won at all out west and it really looked like they siked themselfs out.They played like they knew they could'nt win that series b/c it was in california.They played like they did earlier in the season scoring three runs with three hits.It was terrible!!!!!!:thumbdown

redsmetz
05-18-2009, 09:31 AM
I watched all three games and the reds looked like a completly different team than the last series againist the dbacks.We all know that the past few years that we have not won at all out west and it really looked like they siked themselfs out.They played like they knew they could'nt win that series b/c it was in california.They played like they did earlier in the season scoring three runs with three hits.It was terrible!!!!!!:thumbdown

John Fay messed up a little bit when he mentioned after the Arizona series that this proved the Reds might be shaking their poor record in the Pacific time zone. But he was mistaken. While the club was playing three hours behind, effectively playing on "Pacific time", they in fact were playing the games in Mountain Standard Time. Arizona doesn't go on Daylight savings time, so they're three hours behind, but technically it wasn't Pacific time. Well, there you have it.