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flash
05-19-2009, 11:59 AM
Just saw it on Cincinnati.com.

Dude Rock
05-19-2009, 12:05 PM
Yeah, heard it yesterday on WLW last night. Is it Tommy John surgery?

Get well Bill.

bounty37h
05-19-2009, 12:32 PM
Hope its a quick recovery so you can move on with whatever career is next for ya-not being mean, but think the dude is done.

PhillipsHead
05-19-2009, 01:04 PM
This is a big hit. Last year he was starting to become our best LH option.

We need him next year

corwinator3407
05-19-2009, 01:06 PM
Rhodes and Herrera are doing fine, and we wouldn't need 3 leftys in the pen. I'm okay with this.

Kingspoint
05-19-2009, 06:40 PM
I am not OK with this one bit.

Bray was going to be an outstanding reliever, and he happened to be left-handed.

This really sucks.

We've now lost two good relievers in the last month in Bray and Buck. When we trade Arroyo this summer, if we trade him, I hope we can get a good reliever for him.

This evens out the trade for Kearns and Lopez now, unless Thompson and Bray come through for us next season at the big-league level. Both are still very young, and both can still contribute for us. Thompson had a very bad outing his last time out in Louisville. But, he needs to stay down the whole season there this time and just build up some arm strength.

davereds24
05-19-2009, 07:36 PM
this could be the best thing to happen to him

zacharync
05-19-2009, 07:57 PM
Looking forward to seeing you back Bill!

LouisvilleCARDS
05-19-2009, 08:21 PM
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LouisvilleCARDS
05-19-2009, 08:38 PM
I am not OK with this one bit.

Bray was going to be an outstanding reliever, and he happened to be left-handed.

This really sucks.

We've now lost two good relievers in the last month in Bray and Buck. When we trade Arroyo this summer, if we trade him, I hope we can get a good reliever for him.

This evens out the trade for Kearns and Lopez now, unless Thompson and Bray come through for us next season at the big-league level. Both are still very young, and both can still contribute for us. Thompson had a very bad outing his last time out in Louisville. But, he needs to stay down the whole season there this time and just build up some arm strength.

Could of swore I posted in this thread a second ago, maybe it didn't go through. Basically, the trade is dead and done with. No one "wins" or "loses" the trade at this point, there's nothing salavagable for either side and the guys who made the trade are gone from both franchises. It's amaing how bad the trade turned out for both sides.

- Felipe Lopez, was signed with the Nationals for several million and was terrible batting around .200, and released during his contract with the Nationals

- Austin Kearns, the only winner of the trade. Got a long term deal where he's getting paid $8 mil a year despite being a very below average player.

- Ryan Wagner, just read he retired due to huge arm problems, very unfortunate

- Royce Clayton, one year mediocre rental that year that I don't think was even in the league past that year

- Gary Majewski, major arm problems, released, career is over I believe now

- Bill Bray, average reliever in the majors, now having severe arm surgery and out for the year

- Darryl Thompson, having trouble in Triple A right now

There was another guy in it who went to the Rays I believe, I don't know what happened to him. No one "won" this trade, since neither side got anything out of it. I guess you could say Washington got hurt more by the trade because they paid Lopez a ton and are still paying Kearns a ton.

BigRedMachine07
05-20-2009, 01:24 PM
Majewski is in AAA this year with some team in the IL. He seemed to have a decent ERA last time I saw it.

Kingspoint
05-20-2009, 02:40 PM
Brendan Harris was the other guy.

And now Thompson got injured last night.

This trade has the "King Tut's Curse" written all over it.

Farnsie
05-20-2009, 06:27 PM
I am not OK with this one bit.

We've now lost two good relievers in the last month in Bray and Buck. When we trade Arroyo this summer, if we trade him, I hope we can get a good reliever for him.

Wait! What did I miss? What happened to Buck?

Kingspoint
05-20-2009, 07:02 PM
Wait! What did I miss? What happened to Buck?


Dallas Buck is done for the year right when it seemed he was getting healthy. Those innings he pitched at Oregon State during their 1st of two Championship runs continues to haunt him.

DTCromer
05-20-2009, 07:16 PM
Who would've thunk that Daryl Thompson will end up being the best part of that trade?

Kingspoint
05-20-2009, 07:38 PM
Who would've thunk that Daryl Thompson will end up being the best part of that trade?

There were some of us who that thought that from the beginning, but Thompson had to get through the next 3 years injury-free. It doesn't look like that's going to happen. As was pointed out, it now looks like there were no good parts of that trade....fodder all the way around. Thompson and Bray are both still young enough that potentially a year from now, we could still end up getting a good player or two from the deal. But, at this point, there's no more hoping about it. What a disaster!

LouisvilleCARDS
05-20-2009, 08:06 PM
The best that can be said from it is at least we didn't do something stupid like sign a ridiculous deal with the players like Washington did. I feel like its nothing more than what would have happened if we just let their deals expired, no more, no less.