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M2
05-20-2009, 11:53 AM
Remember 2003? The Reds had a new ballpark and the world was going to be their oyster. Jim Bowden's plan was coming to fruition. So put on your leather pants and get ready for re-do a draft.

We're going 30 picks here (well, hopefully, seeing that we petered out with the 2002 list and the washout rate in 2003 was extremely high). Everybody taken in the 2003 draft is eligible, regardless if they signed. There's no formal picking order, whoever posts gets to make the next selection. Posters can make multiple picks, just don't make two selections in a row.

Anyone selected in the draft for the year in question is eligible. How he was rated prior to the draft should not be considered. The only considerations are how he has played to date and what kind of future you think he has. We're pretending we've got a time machine that takes us back to draft day 2003 with the benefit of knowing everything we know today.

Let's keep the current picks listed with each new pick and then just bold the new selection. For instance:

1. Dude A
2. Dude B
3. Dude C
4. Dude D
5. New Dude

Here's the first pick, a guy the Reds drafted twice:

1. Nick Markakis

DTCromer
05-20-2009, 11:57 AM
1. Nick Markakis
2. Ryan Braun

dougdirt
05-20-2009, 11:58 AM
1. Nick Markakis
2. Ryan Braun
3. Chad Billingsley

dougdirt
05-20-2009, 12:00 PM
ryan braun

You know thats the pitcher Ryan Braun.... right?

TC81190
05-20-2009, 12:00 PM
1. Nick Markakis
2. Ryan Braun
3. Chad Billingsley
4. Matt Kemp

M2
05-20-2009, 12:02 PM
You know thats the pitcher Ryan Braun.... right?

I suspect he doesn't.

Let's make it:

1. Nick Markakis
2. Chad Billingsley
3. Matt Kemp

Good draft for the Dodgers.

DTCromer
05-20-2009, 12:03 PM
You know thats the pitcher Ryan Braun.... right?

LOL, that's the 2nd time in a week I've messed up. Although i must say the website I was looking at had him as a 3B drafted by the Brewers.

I should probably give up.

M2
05-20-2009, 12:07 PM
1. Nick Markakis
2. Chad Billingsley
3. Matt Kemp
4. Jon Papelbon

TC81190
05-20-2009, 12:10 PM
1. Nick Markakis
2. Chad Billingsley
3. Matt Kemp
4. Jon Papelbon
5. Chad Cordero

Redlegs212
05-20-2009, 12:35 PM
1. Nick Markakis
2. Chad Billingsley
3. Matt Kemp
4. Jon Papelbon
5. Chad Cordero
6. Carlos Quinten

dougdirt
05-20-2009, 12:42 PM
1. Nick Markakis
2. Chad Billingsley
3. Matt Kemp
4. Jon Papelbon
5. Chad Cordero
6. Carlos Quinten
7. Ian Kinsler

OnBaseMachine
05-20-2009, 12:43 PM
1. Nick Markakis
2. Chad Billingsley
3. Matt Kemp
4. Jon Papelbon
5. Chad Cordero
6. Carlos Quinten
7. Ian Kinsler
8. Adam Jones

dougdirt
05-20-2009, 12:45 PM
1. Nick Markakis
2. Chad Billingsley
3. Matt Kemp
4. Jon Papelbon
5. Chad Cordero
6. Carlos Quinten
7. Ian Kinsler
8. Adam Jones
9. Tim Lincecum

OnBaseMachine
05-20-2009, 12:47 PM
1. Nick Markakis
2. Chad Billingsley
3. Matt Kemp
4. Jon Papelbon
5. Chad Cordero
6. Carlos Quinten
7. Ian Kinsler
8. Adam Jones
9. Tim Lincecum
10. Aaron Hill

M2
05-20-2009, 12:55 PM
1. Nick Markakis
2. Chad Billingsley
3. Matt Kemp
4. Jon Papelbon
5. Chad Cordero
6. Carlos Quinten
7. Ian Kinsler
8. Adam Jones
9. Tim Lincecum
10. Matt Kemp

Already taken.

OnBaseMachine
05-20-2009, 01:27 PM
Already taken.

My bad. Not sure how I missed that.

Scrap Irony
05-20-2009, 01:35 PM
Poor year for talent, when compared to the rest discussed. Perhaps it's too soon to judge?

M2
05-20-2009, 01:50 PM
1. Nick Markakis
2. Chad Billingsley
3. Matt Kemp
4. Jon Papelbon
5. Chad Cordero
6. Carlos Quinten
7. Ian Kinsler
8. Adam Jones
9. Tim Lincecum
10. Aaron Hill
11. John Danks

M2
05-20-2009, 01:55 PM
Poor year for talent, when compared to the rest discussed. Perhaps it's too soon to judge?

A little bit. This is certainly where you start to cross the line from "What have you done?" to "What might you do?"

That said, there aren't a lot of guys with untapped upside left from the upper rounds of this draft. My guess is we're going to see more than a few 2006 draftees taken here.

Mario-Rijo
05-20-2009, 02:50 PM
1. Nick Markakis
2. Chad Billingsley
3. Matt Kemp
4. Jon Papelbon
5. Chad Cordero
6. Carlos Quinten
7. Ian Kinsler
8. Adam Jones
9. Tim Lincecum
10. Aaron Hill
11. John Danks
12. Andre Ethier

M2
05-20-2009, 04:55 PM
1. Nick Markakis
2. Chad Billingsley
3. Matt Kemp
4. Jon Papelbon
5. Chad Cordero
6. Carlos Quentin
7. Ian Kinsler
8. Adam Jones
9. Tim Lincecum
10. Aaron Hill
11. John Danks
12. Andre Ethier
13. Delmon Young

Even if he's been a bit disappointing, he was rated as the top prospect in baseball a few years back. He had mad value.

Stewie
05-20-2009, 05:39 PM
1. Nick Markakis
2. Chad Billingsley
3. Matt Kemp
4. Jon Papelbon
5. Chad Cordero
6. Carlos Quentin
7. Ian Kinsler
8. Adam Jones
9. Tim Lincecum
10. Aaron Hill
11. John Danks
12. Andre Ethier
13. Delmon Young
14. Max Scherzer

Mario-Rijo
05-20-2009, 05:52 PM
1. Nick Markakis
2. Chad Billingsley
3. Matt Kemp
4. Jon Papelbon
5. Chad Cordero
6. Carlos Quentin
7. Ian Kinsler
8. Adam Jones
9. Tim Lincecum
10. Aaron Hill
11. John Danks
12. Andre Ethier
13. Delmon Young
14. Max Scherzer
15. Brandon Morrow

Kingspoint
05-20-2009, 07:52 PM
1. Nick Markakis
2. Chad Billingsley
3. Matt Kemp
4. Jon Papelbon
5. Chad Cordero
6. Carlos Quentin
7. Ian Kinsler
8. Adam Jones
9. Tim Lincecum
10. Aaron Hill
11. John Danks
12. Andre Ethier
13. Delmon Young
14. Max Scherzer
15. Brandon Morrow
16. Matt LaPorta

LaPorta didn't leave College until the end of 2007, and was drafted 7th overall by the Brewers, where he was sent to Cleveland in the C. C. Sabathia trade, but was drafted in the 14th Round of this draft. He OPS'd 1.054 in AAA this season and .624 in Cleveland this year. He's only 24.

Kingspoint
05-20-2009, 08:05 PM
Next?

M2
05-20-2009, 09:30 PM
1. Nick Markakis
2. Chad Billingsley
3. Matt Kemp
4. Jon Papelbon
5. Chad Cordero
6. Carlos Quentin
7. Ian Kinsler
8. Adam Jones
9. Tim Lincecum
10. Aaron Hill
11. John Danks
12. Andre Ethier
13. Delmon Young
14. Max Scherzer
15. Brandon Morrow
16. Matt LaPorta
17. Paul Maholm

He's a totally underrated pitcher.

Mario-Rijo
05-21-2009, 03:54 AM
1. Nick Markakis
2. Chad Billingsley
3. Matt Kemp
4. Jon Papelbon
5. Chad Cordero
6. Carlos Quentin
7. Ian Kinsler
8. Adam Jones
9. Tim Lincecum
10. Aaron Hill
11. John Danks
12. Andre Ethier
13. Delmon Young
14. Max Scherzer
15. Brandon Morrow
16. Matt LaPorta
17. Paul Maholm
18. Conor Jackson

Missed LaPorta scrolling thru names earlier.

OesterPoster
05-21-2009, 07:47 AM
1. Nick Markakis
2. Chad Billingsley
3. Matt Kemp
4. Jon Papelbon
5. Chad Cordero
6. Carlos Quentin
7. Ian Kinsler
8. Adam Jones
9. Tim Lincecum
10. Aaron Hill
11. John Danks
12. Andre Ethier
13. Delmon Young
14. Max Scherzer
15. Brandon Morrow
16. Matt LaPorta
17. Paul Maholm
18. Conor Jackson
19. Jesse Litsch

dougdirt
05-21-2009, 01:26 PM
1. Nick Markakis
2. Chad Billingsley
3. Matt Kemp
4. Jon Papelbon
5. Chad Cordero
6. Carlos Quentin
7. Ian Kinsler
8. Adam Jones
9. Tim Lincecum
10. Aaron Hill
11. John Danks
12. Andre Ethier
13. Delmon Young
14. Max Scherzer
15. Brandon Morrow
16. Matt LaPorta
17. Paul Maholm
18. Conor Jackson
19. Jesse Litsch
20. Daric Barton (trade him after his second full season where he looked like an absolute stud).

OnBaseMachine
05-21-2009, 01:31 PM
1. Nick Markakis
2. Chad Billingsley
3. Matt Kemp
4. Jon Papelbon
5. Chad Cordero
6. Carlos Quentin
7. Ian Kinsler
8. Adam Jones
9. Tim Lincecum
10. Aaron Hill
11. John Danks
12. Andre Ethier
13. Delmon Young
14. Max Scherzer
15. Brandon Morrow
16. Matt LaPorta
17. Paul Maholm
18. Conor Jackson
19. Jesse Litsch
20. Daric Barton
21. Scott Baker

dougdirt
05-21-2009, 01:33 PM
1. Nick Markakis
2. Chad Billingsley
3. Matt Kemp
4. Jon Papelbon
5. Chad Cordero
6. Carlos Quentin
7. Ian Kinsler
8. Adam Jones
9. Tim Lincecum
10. Aaron Hill
11. John Danks
12. Andre Ethier
13. Delmon Young
14. Max Scherzer
15. Brandon Morrow
16. Matt LaPorta
17. Paul Maholm
18. Conor Jackson
19. Jesse Litsch
20. Daric Barton
21. Scott Baker
22. Rickie Weeks

Mario-Rijo
05-21-2009, 02:23 PM
1. Nick Markakis
2. Chad Billingsley
3. Matt Kemp
4. Jon Papelbon
5. Chad Cordero
6. Carlos Quentin
7. Ian Kinsler
8. Adam Jones
9. Tim Lincecum
10. Aaron Hill
11. John Danks
12. Andre Ethier
13. Delmon Young
14. Max Scherzer
15. Brandon Morrow
16. Matt LaPorta
17. Paul Maholm
18. Conor Jackson
19. Jesse Litsch
20. Daric Barton
21. Scott Baker
22. Rickie Weeks
23. Lastings Milledge

Tornon
05-21-2009, 05:25 PM
1. Nick Markakis
2. Chad Billingsley
3. Matt Kemp
4. Jon Papelbon
5. Chad Cordero
6. Carlos Quentin
7. Ian Kinsler
8. Adam Jones
9. Tim Lincecum
10. Aaron Hill
11. John Danks
12. Andre Ethier
13. Delmon Young
14. Max Scherzer
15. Brandon Morrow
16. Matt LaPorta
17. Paul Maholm
18. Conor Jackson
19. Jesse Litsch
20. Daric Barton
21. Scott Baker
22. Rickie Weeks
23. Lastings Milledge
24. Brad Ziegler

RedEye
05-21-2009, 10:46 PM
1. Nick Markakis
2. Chad Billingsley
3. Matt Kemp
4. Jon Papelbon
5. Chad Cordero
6. Carlos Quinten
7. Ian Kinsler
8. Adam Jones
9. Tim Lincecum
10. Aaron Hill

I realize this isn't really the point of this exercise--but Chad Cordero really shouldn't be #5 with those players after him. Lincecum should probably be #1 or #2, really...

dougdirt
05-21-2009, 10:48 PM
I realize this isn't really the point of this exercise--but Chad Cordero really shouldn't be #5 with those players after him. Lincecum should probably be #1 or #2, really...

Lincecum went in the 48th round that year I think and he didn't sign. I know I had overlooked him the first two times I went through the players.

DTCromer
05-21-2009, 11:21 PM
1. Nick Markakis
2. Chad Billingsley
3. Matt Kemp
4. Jon Papelbon
5. Chad Cordero
6. Carlos Quentin
7. Ian Kinsler
8. Adam Jones
9. Tim Lincecum
10. Aaron Hill
11. John Danks
12. Andre Ethier
13. Delmon Young
14. Max Scherzer
15. Brandon Morrow
16. Matt LaPorta
17. Paul Maholm
18. Conor Jackson
19. Jesse Litsch
20. Daric Barton
21. Scott Baker
22. Rickie Weeks
23. Lastings Milledge
24. Brad Ziegler
25. Brian Wilson

New Fever
05-22-2009, 05:38 AM
1. Nick Markakis
2. Chad Billingsley
3. Matt Kemp
4. Jon Papelbon
5. Chad Cordero
6. Carlos Quentin
7. Ian Kinsler
8. Adam Jones
9. Tim Lincecum
10. Aaron Hill
11. John Danks
12. Andre Ethier
13. Delmon Young
14. Max Scherzer
15. Brandon Morrow
16. Matt LaPorta
17. Paul Maholm
18. Conor Jackson
19. Jesse Litsch
20. Daric Barton
21. Scott Baker
22. Rickie Weeks
23. Lastings Milledge
24. Brad Ziegler
25. Brian Wilson
26. Andrew Miller

cincyinco
05-22-2009, 05:55 AM
1. Nick Markakis
2. Chad Billingsley
3. Matt Kemp
4. Jon Papelbon
5. Chad Cordero
6. Carlos Quentin
7. Ian Kinsler
8. Adam Jones
9. Tim Lincecum
10. Aaron Hill
11. John Danks
12. Andre Ethier
13. Delmon Young
14. Max Scherzer
15. Brandon Morrow
16. Matt LaPorta
17. Paul Maholm
18. Conor Jackson
19. Jesse Litsch
20. Daric Barton
21. Scott Baker
22. Rickie Weeks
23. Lastings Milledge
24. Brad Ziegler
25. Brian Wilson
26. Andrew Miller
27. Ian Stewart

freestyle55
05-22-2009, 10:11 AM
1. Nick Markakis
2. Chad Billingsley
3. Matt Kemp
4. Jon Papelbon
5. Chad Cordero
6. Carlos Quentin
7. Ian Kinsler
8. Adam Jones
9. Tim Lincecum
10. Aaron Hill
11. John Danks
12. Andre Ethier
13. Delmon Young
14. Max Scherzer
15. Brandon Morrow
16. Matt LaPorta
17. Paul Maholm
18. Conor Jackson
19. Jesse Litsch
20. Daric Barton
21. Scott Baker
22. Rickie Weeks
23. Lastings Milledge
24. Brad Ziegler
25. Brian Wilson
26. Andrew Miller
27. Ian Stewart
28. Mike Aviles

DTCromer
05-22-2009, 11:17 AM
1. Nick Markakis
2. Chad Billingsley
3. Matt Kemp
4. Jon Papelbon
5. Chad Cordero
6. Carlos Quentin
7. Ian Kinsler
8. Adam Jones
9. Tim Lincecum
10. Aaron Hill
11. John Danks
12. Andre Ethier
13. Delmon Young
14. Max Scherzer
15. Brandon Morrow
16. Matt LaPorta
17. Paul Maholm
18. Conor Jackson
19. Jesse Litsch
20. Daric Barton
21. Scott Baker
22. Rickie Weeks
23. Lastings Milledge
24. Brad Ziegler
25. Brian Wilson
26. Andrew Miller
27. Ian Stewart
28. Mike Aviles
29. Michael Bourn

OnBaseMachine
05-22-2009, 01:54 PM
1. Nick Markakis
2. Chad Billingsley
3. Matt Kemp
4. Jon Papelbon
5. Chad Cordero
6. Carlos Quentin
7. Ian Kinsler
8. Adam Jones
9. Tim Lincecum
10. Aaron Hill
11. John Danks
12. Andre Ethier
13. Delmon Young
14. Max Scherzer
15. Brandon Morrow
16. Matt LaPorta
17. Paul Maholm
18. Conor Jackson
19. Jesse Litsch
20. Daric Barton
21. Scott Baker
22. Rickie Weeks
23. Lastings Milledge
24. Brad Ziegler
25. Brian Wilson
26. Andrew Miller
27. Ian Stewart
28. Mike Aviles
29. Michael Bourn
30. Brandon Wood