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Reds Fanatic
05-20-2009, 06:04 PM
Lineups:



Phillies:
Rollins SS
Utley 2B
Ibanez LF
Howard 1B
Werth RF
Victorino CF
Feliz 3B
Coste C
Moyer P

Reds:
Taveras CF
Hairston 3B
Phillips 2B
Bruce RF
Hernandez 1B
Gonzalez SS
McDonald LF
Hanigan C
Harang P

GAC
05-20-2009, 08:10 PM
AAAAAAAARGH

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{We now return you to your regular scheduled programming}

Razor Shines
05-20-2009, 08:12 PM
Love it! Another bonus helping of D mcD, yes.

dsmith421
05-20-2009, 08:16 PM
Every year the Reds carry some complete bushleague clown with no business in the big leagues, every year it's infuriating, every year people tell me not to complain because it's "only the 25th man", and every year "the 25th man" ends up getting dozens of critical at-bats and costs the club games.

Just another rite of spring.

dsmith421
05-20-2009, 08:28 PM
Nice inside-out swing by Brandon on the first pitch gives the Reds the early lead. I think Phillips too often goes up trying to park the first pitch, he's a much more effective hitter when he uses the whole field.

Mario-Rijo
05-20-2009, 08:32 PM
Every year the Reds carry some complete bushleague clown with no business in the big leagues, every year it's infuriating, every year people tell me not to complain because it's "only the 25th man", and every year "the 25th man" ends up getting dozens of critical at-bats and costs the club games.

Just another rite of spring.

Oh, I don't think many disagree with ya this year. Between he and Gonzo we have 2 of thee worst offensive players in baseball in the field tonight, yet Rosales sits. JHJ should have been in LF with Rosales at 3B tonight. But I'm guessing this is McDonalds opportunity to prove he can play up here to Dusty. Too bad Dusty doesn't already know it.

Mario-Rijo
05-20-2009, 08:33 PM
It doesn't help BTW that Bruce struck out on one of the worst K pitches I have ever seen. Terrible bat control there.

Mario-Rijo
05-20-2009, 08:38 PM
1-2-3 1st for Harang K'd Ibanez

Bottom 1st Taveras blooped one in between SS/CF/LF, Willy went to steal 2nd had it stole but JHJ simultaneously bounced out to 3rd. BP dbl down the 1st base line on the 1st pitch scoring Taveras, caused Moyer to Balk BP advances to 3rd. Bruce K'd, Ramon BB'd on 5 pitches, Gonzo flys out trying to pull an outside pitch.

1-2 2nd K'd Werth then Victorino doubled into the LCF gap with 2 down. K'd Feliz for the 3rd out.

Bottom 2nd D McD swings at a 2-0 pitch and grounds out to 3B. Hanigan goes 0-2 works it back to 2-2 and takes Moyer deep to LF 2-0 Reds. Harang K's, Taveras refuses to take more than one Ball pops out to Utley in short RF.

VR
05-20-2009, 08:53 PM
pretty quiet in here.....don't fans know this is a MUST WIN game? :)

VR
05-20-2009, 08:55 PM
Nice recovery by Harang after the lead off double.

Mario-Rijo
05-20-2009, 08:56 PM
Top 3rd Coste leads off with a Ground rule double in LCF gap. Moyer bunts him to 3rd. Harang K's Rollins with a high strike (4th K). Utley bounces out to 2B. This ump BTW Adrian Johnson I think his name is, is calling a nice game early on here.

_Sir_Charles_
05-20-2009, 08:56 PM
Nice comeback by Harang after the lead off double and sac bunt. 1 out man on third and he hold him. Nice.

Mario-Rijo
05-20-2009, 08:57 PM
pretty quiet in here.....don't fans know this is a MUST WIN game? :)

Yeah I have been typing in inning, so I'll post during commercial break.

VR
05-20-2009, 08:58 PM
those ladies w/ the quilt are priceless. Highlight of the night.

CrackerJack
05-20-2009, 09:01 PM
Thanks for holding up the quilt George and Chris, didn't want to miss the rest of those red/white squares. I have no idea what that was about.

_Sir_Charles_
05-20-2009, 09:02 PM
Bruce with a bloop RBI single. 3-0 Reds.

VR
05-20-2009, 09:02 PM
Thanks for holding up the quilt George and Chris, didn't want to miss the rest of those red/white squares. I have no idea what that was about.

Cool story about a couple of ladies making a quilt w/ current and former Reds signatures quilted in. They are donating to the Reds' community fund.

_Sir_Charles_
05-20-2009, 09:03 PM
Bruce has seen 8 pitches and he's swung at all of them but ONE.

Bruce caught stealing. 2 down.

VR
05-20-2009, 09:03 PM
Bruce with a bloop RBI single. 3-0 Reds.

"slump buster"

Mario-Rijo
05-20-2009, 09:04 PM
Bottom 3rd JHJ works the count full then doubles to CF off the wall. BP tries to bunt for a hit down the 1st base line Moyer tracks it down (scoops and tosses in one motion with his glove) and then gives BP the biznezz (BP was laughing), JHJ to 3rd. Bruce bloops one into RF 3-0, then Bruce promptly gets picked off trying to steal. Ramon dribbles one to Moyer.

VR
05-20-2009, 09:04 PM
Moyer gets an assist on all three outs

Mario-Rijo
05-20-2009, 09:05 PM
Bruce has seen 8 pitches and he's swung at all of them but ONE.

Bruce caught stealing. 2 down.

I see you are taking over the PBP, so I'll be off.

_Sir_Charles_
05-20-2009, 09:06 PM
I see you are taking over the PBP, so I'll be off.

Well, I wouldn't go that far. I'll be in and out with my 3 daughters running around. I'll do what I can.

_Sir_Charles_
05-20-2009, 09:07 PM
Top of the 4th, 3-0 Redlegs

Ibanez, Howard & Werth due up.

_Sir_Charles_
05-20-2009, 09:08 PM
Ibanez with a lead off HR. See, Mario-Rijo....I just KNEW you should've kept going.

3-1 Reds.

CrackerJack
05-20-2009, 09:09 PM
Cool story about a couple of ladies making a quilt w/ current and former Reds signatures quilted in. They are donating to the Reds' community fund.

Ah thanks, figured it was something like that.

_Sir_Charles_
05-20-2009, 09:10 PM
Aaron pitching very carefully to Howard.

3-0 to Howard and he swings...Double to right. AAAARRRGH! I should NOT be doing PBP. Yikes.

_Sir_Charles_
05-20-2009, 09:12 PM
Harang's 5th K. Werth doesn't like it. Tough luck...grab some pine!

_Sir_Charles_
05-20-2009, 09:15 PM
Harang walks Victorino. 1st of the night. 1st & 2nd with one out.

VR
05-20-2009, 09:16 PM
DP peliz, Feliz

_Sir_Charles_
05-20-2009, 09:16 PM
Feliz grounds into a slow rolling DP. Nicely done. *whew*

Middle of 4, 3-1 good guys.

Red in Chicago
05-20-2009, 09:16 PM
nice save by ramon at first to keep the dp in tact...

VR
05-20-2009, 09:16 PM
peliz and thank you!

Mario-Rijo
05-20-2009, 09:17 PM
Ibanez with a lead off HR. See, Mario-Rijo....I just KNEW you should've kept going.

3-1 Reds.

The voodoo that you do! :p:

_Sir_Charles_
05-20-2009, 09:18 PM
Bottom of 4th: Pirates 1 / Nats 0
Bottom of 1st: Astros 0 / Brewers 0
Chic & StL just underway.

_Sir_Charles_
05-20-2009, 09:19 PM
nice save by ramon at first to keep the dp in tact...

I've been pleasantly surprised with his defense at first.

_Sir_Charles_
05-20-2009, 09:20 PM
Agon, McNugget & Manigan due up

Agon flies out to the track. 1 down. Nice AB from Alex....crummy result, but nice approach.

_Sir_Charles_
05-20-2009, 09:22 PM
Darnell flies out to left. 2 down.

CTA513
05-20-2009, 09:22 PM
The Reds #6 and #7 hitters have some ugly batting averages.

VR
05-20-2009, 09:23 PM
The Reds #6 and #7 hitters have some ugly batting averages.

They are hitting .349, what are you talking about?

_Sir_Charles_
05-20-2009, 09:24 PM
The Reds #6 and #7 hitters have some ugly batting averages.

8 looks pretty darned good though. I'd really like to see Hanigan get some more playing time. He's been absolutely lights out offensively AND defensively....and as I type it...Manigan singles to left. 2 for 2.

_Sir_Charles_
05-20-2009, 09:25 PM
Harang gets ALL of that one!!!!! Slow roller a few feet in front of the plate. :O) End of the inning.

After 4, 3-1 Reds.

Mario-Rijo
05-20-2009, 09:27 PM
Harang gets ALL of that one!!!!! Slow roller a few feet in front of the plate. :O) End of the inning.

After 4, 3-1 Reds.

I know they say he works hard on hitting but I just can't see any progress. :cool:

Still feel the same about your sig at this point? Not so much where the Reds are concerned but the Cards maybe?

_Sir_Charles_
05-20-2009, 09:28 PM
Top of the 5th. Coste, Moyer & Rollins due up. And I don't want to see ANY OTHER Phillies hitters. You hear that Aaron!?!

_Sir_Charles_
05-20-2009, 09:30 PM
I know they say he works hard on hitting but I just can't see any progress. :cool:

Still feel the same about your sig at this point? Not so much where the Reds are concerned but the Cards maybe?

I agree. It's like watching one of my daughters swinging in the Putt-putt batting cages. Just awful...yet strangely entertaining at the same time. *grin*

And yes, I'm sticking with it. The Cards will crash back down to earth. The Brewers will NOT get this kind of pitching over the long haul. The Cubs will get healthy and so will the Reds & Pirates. Its way too early to change my opinion.

_Sir_Charles_
05-20-2009, 09:30 PM
Coste grounded out to third. Moyer grounded out to Phillips. 2 down.

Mario-Rijo
05-20-2009, 09:31 PM
I agree. It's like watching one of my daughters swinging in the Putt-putt batting cages. Just awful...yet strangely entertaining at the same time. *grin*

And yes, I'm sticking with it. The Cards will crash back down to earth. The Brewers will NOT get this kind of pitching over the long haul. The Cubs will get healthy and so will the Reds & Pirates. Its way too early to change my opinion.

Ok

VR
05-20-2009, 09:32 PM
Much needed 9 pitch inning for Harang.....now at 75 through 5

_Sir_Charles_
05-20-2009, 09:32 PM
Rollins out on a short fly ball that AGon reels in. Nice quick inning from Aaron. Still 3-1 Reds heading to the bottom of the 5th.

_Sir_Charles_
05-20-2009, 09:33 PM
Taveras, Hairston & Phillips due up in the 5th

_Sir_Charles_
05-20-2009, 09:34 PM
Taveras with a seeing eye bloop single to center.

VR
05-20-2009, 09:35 PM
Taveras showing a great propensity to hit pop flys. Hopefully Jacoby and Baker are all over that.

_Sir_Charles_
05-20-2009, 09:37 PM
Moyer paying a LOT of attention to Taveras. He "should" be easy to run on, but he's got a pretty decent move to first IIRC.

_Sir_Charles_
05-20-2009, 09:37 PM
Picked off. That's not the kind of thing I wanted to predict correctly. *sigh*

_Sir_Charles_
05-20-2009, 09:38 PM
Hairston with a soft single. Crud. One pitch too late.

VR
05-20-2009, 09:38 PM
After 17 consecutive throws to 1st, Taveras gets picked off.

It is a treat year after year seeing the Reds lead the world in those.

_Sir_Charles_
05-20-2009, 09:40 PM
Phillips pops out on a moonshot to Utley. 2 down.

VR
05-20-2009, 09:41 PM
I just wish BP would try to hit those to straightaway center instead of down the left field line.

_Sir_Charles_
05-20-2009, 09:45 PM
10 pitches...all inside. Moyer throws a breaking ball outside and bruce'll be gone.

Red in Chicago
05-20-2009, 09:46 PM
well, that wasn't very close at all..sigh

_Sir_Charles_
05-20-2009, 09:46 PM
Bruce with a double and they send Hairston...dead by a mile.

VR
05-20-2009, 09:46 PM
Unhitch the plow Jerry, planting season is over.

Mario-Rijo
05-20-2009, 09:46 PM
10 pitches...all inside. Moyer throws a breaking ball outside and bruce'll be gone.

Must be opposite day for you sir Charles. But Berry sends Hairston who is out by a mile with Ramon coming up.

AmarilloRed
05-20-2009, 09:48 PM
It's a diferent inning without the Taveras pickoff.

Mario-Rijo
05-20-2009, 09:48 PM
It's a diferent inning without the Taveras pickoff.

Yeah

HokieRed
05-20-2009, 09:48 PM
Two outs on the bases in one inning.

VR
05-20-2009, 09:49 PM
Nice double bird there from the Birthday gal....:thumbup:

membengal
05-20-2009, 09:49 PM
Um, that lady just now with Jim Day? She just flipped double "birds" to the people in the box with her. And everyone watching on TV.

Red in Chicago
05-20-2009, 09:50 PM
Nice double bird there from the Birthay gal....:thumbup:

very classy...the kids must be proud...

CTA513
05-20-2009, 09:51 PM
Nice double bird there from the Birthday gal....:thumbup:


Don't they have a delay to catch those kinds of things?

dsmith421
05-20-2009, 09:51 PM
That was awesome, I bet Grande is covered in flop sweat right now. I'm surprised he didn't drop a "diddley" into his next sentence.

Team Clark
05-20-2009, 09:52 PM
That was awesome, I bet Grande is covered in flop sweat right now. I'm surprised he didn't drop a "diddley" into his next sentence.

Exactly what I was thinking. His heart must have skipped a few beats. She seemed like such a nice lady too... :D

VR
05-20-2009, 09:52 PM
Over in Atlanta....Matt Belisle goes "O" innings so far...4 hits, 1

membengal
05-20-2009, 09:53 PM
He kept asking her what her age was. The entire interview was very uncomfortable, because Day seemed to think he was joking and she too, only she really never seemed very happy with the interview.

And, at the end, confirmed her unhappiness.

VR
05-20-2009, 09:53 PM
Over in Atlanta....Matt Belisle getting ripped, 1/3 ip, 4 hits, 1 bb, 3 earnies.

dsmith421
05-20-2009, 09:55 PM
He kept asking her what her age was. The entire interview was very uncomfortable, because Day seemed to think he was joking and she too, only she really never seemed very happy with the interview.

Every time Jim Day appears onscreen it's uncomfortable, they've always got him sitting in some weird corner of the ballpark around people who are menacingly drunk or profane, there's always these creepy subtexts about hot chicks or drinking...it's like the Reds game is interrupted by a David Lynch short twice an evening.

membengal
05-20-2009, 09:56 PM
Good description. That's what this was, times a thousand.

BCubb2003
05-20-2009, 09:57 PM
Every time Jim Day appears onscreen it's uncomfortable, they've always got him sitting in some weird corner of the ballpark around people who are menacingly drunk or profane, there's always these creepy subtexts about hot chicks or drinking...it's like the Reds game is interrupted by a David Lynch short twice an evening.

They'll probably end the segment if he ever comes across a RedsZoner.

_Sir_Charles_
05-20-2009, 10:00 PM
Must be opposite day for you sir Charles. But Berry sends Hairston who is out by a mile with Ramon coming up.

If it leads to a Reds win...I'll happily be dead wrong on everything all day long. :O)

Somebody else will need to take over PBP...gotta tuck the little ones in.

Buckeye33
05-20-2009, 10:04 PM
Man, Gonzalez is completely lost at the plate. It's hard to watch.

_Sir_Charles_
05-20-2009, 10:09 PM
Considering my record tonight on posting something and the opposite coming true...somebody else should comment on how Harang's doing tonight.

Hoosier Red
05-20-2009, 10:12 PM
Over in Atlanta....Matt Belisle getting ripped, 1/3 ip, 4 hits, 1 bb, 3 earnies.

So this will not be the year he breaks through?

CTA513
05-20-2009, 10:12 PM
Reds up 3-1 in the 7th

Harang: 7 Innings, 4 Hits, 1 Run, 2 BB, 9 Ks - 109 pitches

_Sir_Charles_
05-20-2009, 10:12 PM
Middle of 7: 3-1 Reds
Bottom of 7: 1-1 Bucs/Nats
Top of 4: Houston 4 / Milw. 1
Top of 4: Chi/StL scoreless

_Sir_Charles_
05-20-2009, 10:14 PM
Harang's in the on deck circle? 109 pitches...that seems odd.

_Sir_Charles_
05-20-2009, 10:14 PM
Chad Durbin in for Moyer.

Hanigan, Harang, Taveras up

_Sir_Charles_
05-20-2009, 10:15 PM
Dickerson PH'ing. Good night for Aaron. Flat out SOLID.

_Sir_Charles_
05-20-2009, 10:17 PM
3 hits and a walk in Dickerson's last 5 plate appearances after his single

_Sir_Charles_
05-20-2009, 10:18 PM
Dickerson swipes 2nd. Good jump. Wow, that's his FIRST of the year.

_Sir_Charles_
05-20-2009, 10:20 PM
Taveras works a walk. 1st & 2nd with 1 down. Okay, let's get some breathing room here!

_Sir_Charles_
05-20-2009, 10:21 PM
Is it just me, or are the majority of Reds stolen bases of 2nd immediately followed by walks? It sure seems that way.

VR
05-20-2009, 10:22 PM
I'd put the double steal on here

_Sir_Charles_
05-20-2009, 10:23 PM
Hairston k's for the 2nd out, leaving it up to Phillips to knock in some insurance

Red in Chicago
05-20-2009, 10:23 PM
JHJ dropping an f-bomb after striking out. Not a good night for the little ones to be watching :)

_Sir_Charles_
05-20-2009, 10:24 PM
Solid smack off the wall for a triple to score 2! Way to go Brandon!!!! 5-1 Redlegs

VR
05-20-2009, 10:24 PM
Brandon either needs some new cleats or ease or work calming his swing down a tad :)

VR
05-20-2009, 10:25 PM
JHJ dropping an f-bomb after striking out. Not a good night for the little ones to be watching :)

BP had one earlier as well.

Great &$%#$# game though....

_Sir_Charles_
05-20-2009, 10:25 PM
Brandon looks pretty darned comfortable in that #3 hole. REALLY comfortable. *hint, hint. nudge, nudge wink, wink* Know what I mean Dusty? :O)

Hoosier Red
05-20-2009, 10:26 PM
JHJ dropping an f-bomb after striking out. Not a good night for the little ones to be watching :)

I disagree, the umpire just asked JHJ what the ladies' sign language meant.

_Sir_Charles_
05-20-2009, 10:27 PM
Sergio Escalona is the new pitcher facing The Bruce

_Sir_Charles_
05-20-2009, 10:28 PM
Woah, what in the world was Jay swinging at there?!? Good grief. He can look pretty bad on outside breaking balls.

_Sir_Charles_
05-20-2009, 10:29 PM
End of 7th: 5-1 Reds
Bottom of 8: 1-1 Bucs/Nats
Bottom of 5: cubs 0 / cards 1 (Carpenter's first game back)
Top of 5: Brewers 1 / Astros 4

New pitcher for the Reds: Arthur Rhodes

_Sir_Charles_
05-20-2009, 10:33 PM
Bruntlett (PH) flies out to RtCnt to Bruce

_Sir_Charles_
05-20-2009, 10:34 PM
Slow roller to Hairston at 3rd gets Rollins for the 2nd out.

_Sir_Charles_
05-20-2009, 10:36 PM
Utley flies out to Bruce for the 1-2-3 inning. Nicely done Arthur.

_Sir_Charles_
05-20-2009, 10:37 PM
Braves up 12 to 1 on the Rockies...and they've got the bases loaded too. Yikes. Only the 6th inning too.

BCubb2003
05-20-2009, 10:37 PM
If Sir Arthur faced Prince Albert, who would win?

_Sir_Charles_
05-20-2009, 10:39 PM
Jack Traschner pitching

Hernandez, Gonzo & Darnell due up

_Sir_Charles_
05-20-2009, 10:39 PM
If Sir Arthur faced Prince Albert, who would win?

Wouldn't a black hole form immediately?

_Sir_Charles_
05-20-2009, 10:41 PM
Hernandez gives it a ride, but pulled in at the warning track by Ibanez in left.

_Sir_Charles_
05-20-2009, 10:43 PM
Groundball with eyes. Single for Alex. He was WAAAAAY overdue. And so's this next guy. McDonald up.

_Sir_Charles_
05-20-2009, 10:44 PM
Darnell takes one for the team. HBP. 1st & 2nd with one out.

VR
05-20-2009, 10:44 PM
Somebody direct McDonald to 1st base

CTA513
05-20-2009, 10:46 PM
Gonzalez and McDonald on base at the same time?

:eek:

_Sir_Charles_
05-20-2009, 10:46 PM
Father & son arguing about American Idol of all things. Ummm...guys, there's like this whole baseball thing going on.

Mario-Rijo
05-20-2009, 10:46 PM
Gonzalez and McDonald on base at the same time?

:eek:

What are the odds? :confused:

_Sir_Charles_
05-20-2009, 10:47 PM
Hanigan grounds to Howard to takes the out at 2nd. 1st & 3rd with 2 down.

VR
05-20-2009, 10:47 PM
nice f bomb by Tascher

_Sir_Charles_
05-20-2009, 10:48 PM
Rosales flies out to end the mini-threat of mini-hitters.

_Sir_Charles_
05-20-2009, 10:50 PM
Cordero in for the 9th. Hmmm...non save situation. He needs the work, but he's been far from money in these types of innings.

_Sir_Charles_
05-20-2009, 10:51 PM
Grounder to Brandon. Quickly 1 down. (that was Ibanez btw)

_Sir_Charles_
05-20-2009, 10:53 PM
Ryan Howard strikes out on 3 pitches. Nice.

VR
05-20-2009, 10:55 PM
Great game by Reds' pitchers, just great. This Philly lineup is ridiculous, and they just never let them breathe. :thumbup:

_Sir_Charles_
05-20-2009, 10:55 PM
Werth grounds to Gonzo and avoids the golden sombrero.

And this one belongs to the Reds!

_Sir_Charles_
05-20-2009, 10:56 PM
For a "putrid" offense, the Reds managed 5 runs and 12 hits...despite all the pre-game optimism. *rolls eyes* Once we get healthy, we're going on a run guys.

Mario-Rijo
05-20-2009, 10:59 PM
For a "putrid" offense, the Reds managed 5 runs and 12 hits...despite all the pre-game optimism. *rolls eyes* Once we get healthy, we're going on a run guys.

I'm surprised we pulled one out of this series frankly, the Phils hitters seem to be in a nice malaise. But Harang was a true stopper tonight, coming out and not pitching to contact was a wise approach.

Falls City Beer
05-20-2009, 11:03 PM
I think they've got a shot to win tomorrow too.

WVPacman
05-21-2009, 12:47 AM
Ok who else's jaws droped when the lady fliped somebody the bird twice after talking to JD on tv?:eek:

kaldaniels
05-21-2009, 12:58 AM
I'm surprised we pulled one out of this series frankly, the Phils hitters seem to be in a nice malaise. But Harang was a true stopper tonight, coming out and not pitching to contact was a wise approach.

Overall this may mean nothing, but I don't see the Reds (allowing decent health from starters) being a team that gets mired in a long losing streak...just takes one performance like this from the staff to snap the streak in a hurry.

WVRedsFan
05-21-2009, 02:36 AM
It's a story of the Nice and not so nice, gang:

Nice:

The pitching staff who did it all
Traveras, Hairston, Phillips and Brue and Hannigan going 10-18 with all 5 RBI's

The Not so Nice:

Gonzales continuting to not hit. 1-4, but batting .178 this far into the season
McDonald going 0-7 in the series and batting .175 and is 0-7 as a starter
The top of the lineuup going 10-18 while the other four go 2-14

Giving up outs time after time to Gonzalez and McDonald is just insane. Regardless, we win and break the streak when once again we pitch well only proves that we need offense especially with Volquez out for who knows how long and Votto not playing.

I guess that's just baseball tonight.

Topcat
05-21-2009, 03:56 AM
It's a story of the Nice and not so nice, gang:

Nice:

The pitching staff who did it all
Traveras, Hairston, Phillips and Brue and Hannigan going 10-18 with all 5 RBI's

The Not so Nice:

Gonzales continuting to not hit. 1-4, but batting .178 this far into the season
McDonald going 0-7 in the series and batting .175 and is 0-7 as a starter
The top of the lineuup going 10-18 while the other four go 2-14

Giving up outs time after time to Gonzalez and McDonald is just insane. Regardless, we win and break the streak when once again we pitch well only proves that we need offense especially with Volquez out for who knows how long and Votto not playing.

I guess that's just baseball tonight.


I have to agree 100 percent. McDonald ? Seriously? On the matter of Gonzo his game is shot as is his career. He is not Ozzie Smith and this team can not afford another defensive guy that most realistically will not hit. The other is Taveras but I am trying to remain optimistic.