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kfm
05-26-2009, 12:27 PM
I always like to read the opposing teams media coverage when they play the reds. I came across this post by a very angry astros fan. I just had to post it so others could read. Isn't nice not to be in last place.

"This team...I hate this team. They cant win at home, they cant win in the clutch, they cant hold leads, they cant pitch over 7 innings. Wandy Rodriguez is our ace because Roy is done. DONE! He's done unless he throws against the, Reds every start but he makes two-three inexcusable mistakes every game! He makes me miss Chris Holt this year. I want Wade Miller back. I hate this team. Thanks for showing up for the first month and a half of the year Lance! Try warming up before you swing through curveballs every game. Try taking some BP before you go out there and fan the centerfielder with the strength of your missed swings. Carlos Lee is making ridiculous money this year because our owner had his wallet stolen by Tal Smith, and Miggy Tejada is a lying, cheating, below-average shortstop who can has barely any power, range, or speed anymore. We did not trade for a punch-and-judy hitter, I dont care if he's hitting .325! He was brought here to hit 30 dingers, drive in 115, and score 90-100 runs. I hate him, and I want to take a bat to his kneecaps. Better let Pence do it, actually, since he is the ONLY one hitting the way he should be! Gah! Hey, Matsui, in America, in American baseball, we like to HIT the ball! Oh, and bullpen, Mike Hampton, Russ Ortiz, and Brian Moehler, your job is to prevent the other team from scoring! Was that not in your contract? Did you not get that memo? Oh, and look at all the help on the horizon! I cant wait for the 45-year Doug Brocail to come back, or 'Papa Grande' Valverde. They'll be able to haul around the broken bodies of Chris Sampson and Tim Byrdak after Cooper runs them into the ground. I hate this team, I hate the owner, I hate their constantly angry manager, I hate their general manager, and I hate their owner, who has led this team into a catastrophic slump since going to the World Series in 2004. Blow up the team! Trade Roy for prospects, right now, trade him to the Red Sox or Mets. Trade Carlos Lee to any team that needs a hitter, pay half his salary, and be grateful for whatever prospects they give you. Trade Jose Valverde and bring up some kid to pitch in the 9th, because we can forget save situations from now on. Send Miggy Tejada on a train as soon as his contract is up. Cut Matsui, just cut him, cut him now, and play Maysonet or anybody else. Cut Geoff Blum and let Saccomano play third. Cut those disasters of Jason Michaels, Mike Hampton, and Russ Ortiz. Bring up the ten best players in the system, play them 60 games and see what happens. Just blow up the team. I hate this team, they make me sick. It makes me sick to see that Paulino is a starter for us. It makes me sick that a reliable reliever in our bullpen is named Jeff Fulchino. It makes me sick that we had to sign Pudge Rodriquez because our farm system can't give us one major league quality catcher. The only thing I like watching is Hunter Pence hit and Wandy pitch. That's it, and Ive been an Astros fan since I was 7. I hate this team.
"Now I'm done."--Brady Quinn"

Shawn_RedsFan
05-26-2009, 12:33 PM
lol, whered you find this at

Dude Rock
05-26-2009, 12:35 PM
I think he should quit holding back how he really feels.

Yes........I'm thankful for our farm system.

redhawkfish
05-26-2009, 12:45 PM
I certainly felt the same way about the Reds a few years back! Losing gets old in a hurry and we have had ten years of it. I hope this year is the beginning of a turn around.

Hey Meat
05-26-2009, 12:50 PM
OMG I am dying right now. That was hilarious.

PhillipsHead
05-26-2009, 01:12 PM
His point is logical: when Wandy Rodriguez is your ace......Houston, you have a problem.

Dude Rock
05-26-2009, 01:57 PM
Would you trade Bailey straight up for Oswalt? Roy has dominated us and obviously likes pitching in GABP. LOL.

mlh1981
05-26-2009, 02:30 PM
Houston really was lucky to win as many games as they did last year. They aren't a very good team, and have done a poor job in rebuilding since the Biggio/Bagwell/Clemens, etc era. Didn't they get outscored last season by the opposition? They were very lucky to be in the thick of things.

xavr1
05-26-2009, 02:40 PM
Nice to see some other NL Central team (besides Pitt) wallowing in misery. Good riddance. Lets sweep em.

schmidty622
05-26-2009, 02:50 PM
Would you trade Bailey straight up for Oswalt? Roy has dominated us and obviously likes pitching in GABP. LOL.

A 32 year old pitcher with a career record of 130-66 and a 3.17 ERA. HELL YES.

Dude Rock
05-26-2009, 03:58 PM
A 32 year old pitcher with a career record of 130-66 and a 3.17 ERA. HELL YES.

How much does Roy make and for how long? :D

lidspinner
05-26-2009, 04:41 PM
I wouldnt laugh to hard....that was us a few years ago.

corwinator3407
05-26-2009, 04:54 PM
:laugh:

wow, where was this found?

Fon Duc Tow
05-26-2009, 05:26 PM
now that was funny.

Indeed it is very good to have a very good farm system coming into fruition.

And it is good that the Astros are doing poorly.

:)

NeilHamburger
05-26-2009, 05:30 PM
Cry me a river. His favorite team was in the World Series not 4 years ago. He's been following a team that won 86 games last year, and has been over .500 virtually every year for the last 15 years.

kfm
05-26-2009, 09:05 PM
:laugh:

wow, where was this found?

Found it on the Houston Chronicle.

GOYA
05-26-2009, 10:45 PM
I wish that guy was the Stros' GM. I'd deal for Carlos Lee in a heartbeat.

Dude Rock
05-27-2009, 01:59 AM
How much does Roy make and for how long? :D

Roy is making $14 million this year, but I'm unable to find the length of his contract.

Carlos Lee is making $19 million this year. Yikes. I'm unable to find the length of his contract either.

GOYA
05-27-2009, 02:45 AM
Lee signed a six-year, $100 million contract in Nov, 2006. He made $11,500,000 in 2007, $12,500,000 in 2008 and $19,000,000 this year. So he's got 57 mil coming over the next 3 years.

Trade Arroyo and bring up Maloney, Ramirez or Thompson, probably Maloney and the increase of payroll isn't so great. The improvement of the offense is.

It's never going to happen but it would be nice.

Dude Rock
05-27-2009, 02:46 AM
Lee signed a six-year, $100 million contract in Nov, 2006. He made $11,500,000 in 2007, $12,500,000 in 2008 and $19,000,000 this year. So he's got 57 mil coming over the next 3 years.

Thanks for the info. Not thanks to Carlos Lee.

flash
05-27-2009, 08:24 AM
I live in Houston and it is kind of hard to listen to the Houston annoucers when the Reds play them. They continually tell ow the Astros are just giving games to the Reds as if the Reds were not really winning them.

Be that as it may Houston is continuously making mental errors that are costing them ball games. Tejada in particular is guilty of this. To add to this there is always a sense of complacency on the team because after all, they always win in August and September. The team is slowly slipping into the lackadaisical approach that characterized the Reds years with Griffey and Dunn. This is not a Craig Biggio team.

But it soon could be. Biggio still lives in Houston and coaches a high school team. There have been rumors about the players and manager not getting along. The Chronicle had an editorial about how Cooper should show the veterans who is boss. (Players always win in that confrontation, so that was bad advice. However if your name is Biggio, that could turn the tables on the players, and light a fire under the team.) Look for Biggio to replace Cooper late this year or in the off-season.

Houston, unfortunately must learn that unless you are the Yankees or Red Sox, it is hard to buy a pennant. The Reds tried it with Driffey, Dunn, and Milton. The Astros have followed the Reds down the same path of infamy with Lee, Tejada, and Rodriguez. Now they are paying for it. They taded away Taveras after constantly trashing him, yet he has been in the WS twice and won a stolen base title. They gave up more farmhands for Keppinger.

During the past few years the reds have gotten rid of a few favorites. Griffey to the Mariners, Dunn to the Nationals, , Freel to the Orioles, and Keppinger to the Astros. Amazing how all those teams are either in last place or very close to it while the Reds are in the front half of the standings now.

Dude Rock
05-27-2009, 10:00 AM
I live in Houston and it is kind of hard to listen to the Houston annoucers when the Reds play them. They continually tell ow the Astros are just giving games to the Reds as if the Reds were not really winning them.

Be that as it may Houston is continuously making mental errors that are costing them ball games. Tejada in particular is guilty of this. To add to this there is always a sense of complacency on the team because after all, they always win in August and September. The team is slowly slipping into the lackadaisical approach that characterized the Reds years with Griffey and Dunn. This is not a Craig Biggio team.

But it soon could be. Biggio still lives in Houston and coaches a high school team. There have been rumors about the players and manager not getting along. The Chronicle had an editorial about how Cooper should show the veterans who is boss. (Players always win in that confrontation, so that was bad advice. However if your name is Biggio, that could turn the tables on the players, and light a fire under the team.) Look for Biggio to replace Cooper late this year or in the off-season.

Houston, unfortunately must learn that unless you are the Yankees or Red Sox, it is hard to buy a pennant. The Reds tried it with Driffey, Dunn, and Milton. The Astros have followed the Reds down the same path of infamy with Lee, Tejada, and Rodriguez. Now they are paying for it. They taded away Taveras after constantly trashing him, yet he has been in the WS twice and won a stolen base title. They gave up more farmhands for Keppinger.

During the past few years the reds have gotten rid of a few favorites. Griffey to the Mariners, Dunn to the Nationals, , Freel to the Orioles, and Keppinger to the Astros. Amazing how all those teams are either in last place or very close to it while the Reds are in the front half of the standings now.

Good post. Especially the last paragraph.

I think energy and chemistry, from an offensive standpoint, are proving to be worth alot. And the Reds are proving that pitching wins games and hopefully pennants.

We're enjoying a youth resurgence right now, but how will the fans feel when ownership can't afford all these guys down the road?