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Red in Chicago
05-29-2009, 08:20 PM
Can someone please post lineups. I'm still trying to get home.

_Sir_Charles_
05-29-2009, 08:27 PM
Willy Taveras 8

Jerry Hairston 4

Joey Votto 3

Ramon Hernandez 2

Jay Bruce 9

Laynce Nix 7

Alex Gonzalez 6

Adam Rosales 5

Johnny Cueto 1

The Reds were hoping Brandon Phillips would be ready. Will get an update.

klw
05-29-2009, 08:49 PM
Per Fay
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Another update on Phillips
Posted by JohnFay at 5/29/2009 7:05 PM EDT on Cincinnati.com

Brandon Phillips hit and took groundballs on the field before game. Phillips was unable to do anything on the field Wednesday because of the weather, so this was his biggest test since suffering the hariline fracture of the tip of his right thumb.
"It went great," he said.
No pain?
"I feel it," he said. "It's all about manning up. I felt more throwing than hitting. When I hit in cage the other, it swelled up on me."
Barring more swelling, I'd think Phillips will be in the lineup tomorrow.
"It's up to Dusty (Baker)," Phillips said. "I can play through the pain, but I don't want to mess up the team.
He hit several balls out in the BP session.
Phillips hasn't played since suffering a hairline fracture of the tip of his right thumb Saturday.
"It looks ugly," Dusty Baker said. "It's turning colors."
"Oh, yeah, it's ugly," Phillips said.

Reds Fanatic
05-29-2009, 09:09 PM
Taveras grounds out to 3rd. 1 out.

Tom Servo
05-29-2009, 09:13 PM
Hairston with a birthday single.

Reds Fanatic
05-29-2009, 09:13 PM
Great AB by Hairston as he fouls off several pitches and then singles to right.

Tom Servo
05-29-2009, 09:15 PM
Hairston gunned down trying to steal second.

Reds Fanatic
05-29-2009, 09:16 PM
Hairston is caught stealing 2nd. It really wasn't close.

Reds Fanatic
05-29-2009, 09:16 PM
Votto pops out. 0-0 mid 1st.

Reds Fanatic
05-29-2009, 09:19 PM
Counsell pops out to short. 1 out.

Reds Fanatic
05-29-2009, 09:20 PM
Hardy lines out to left. 2 outs.

Reds Fanatic
05-29-2009, 09:21 PM
4 pitch walk to Braun

Tom Servo
05-29-2009, 09:22 PM
Argh, 2 run shot for Prince.

Reds Fanatic
05-29-2009, 09:23 PM
A long homer to the upper deck in right by Fielder. 2-0 Brewers.

Ltlabner
05-29-2009, 09:23 PM
No.Doubter

Matt700wlw
05-29-2009, 09:24 PM
Cueto not himself so far...

Red in Chicago
05-29-2009, 09:25 PM
I know Bill Hall is in a slump, but how can you keep him out of the lineup against the Reds?

Reds Fanatic
05-29-2009, 09:25 PM
Cameron strikes out swinging. 2-0 Brewers after 1.

Reds Fanatic
05-29-2009, 09:29 PM
Hernandez grounds out to pitcher. 1 out.

Reds Fanatic
05-29-2009, 09:30 PM
Bruce grounds out to 1st. 2 outs.

Reds Fanatic
05-29-2009, 09:32 PM
Nix strikes out swinging. 2-0 Brewers mid 2nd.

Tom Servo
05-29-2009, 09:32 PM
Methinks this will be a long game. I recall Looper shutting us down many times when he was a Redbird.

Tom Servo
05-29-2009, 09:35 PM
Votto's out.


Fantastic.

Reds Fanatic
05-29-2009, 09:35 PM
Votto is out of the game. Hernandez moves to 1st and Hanigan at catcher.

_Sir_Charles_
05-29-2009, 09:35 PM
Votto out for some reason. Hanigan in at C and Hernandez moves over to 1st.

Falls City Beer
05-29-2009, 09:36 PM
Death sentence against the Brewers: poor control. Throw strikes.

_Sir_Charles_
05-29-2009, 09:36 PM
I'm guessing that the plane flight cabin pressure aggravated the ear infection.

Reds Fanatic
05-29-2009, 09:36 PM
Gamel walks on a 3-2 pitch.

Falls City Beer
05-29-2009, 09:36 PM
Votto's out.


Fantastic.

Not good.

alloverjr
05-29-2009, 09:37 PM
The Reds simply need to DL Votto until they either figure out what is really wrong with him or to give him time to actually get better. Their not doing themselves or Votto any favors this way.

Falls City Beer
05-29-2009, 09:38 PM
The Reds simply need to DL Votto until they either figure out what is really wrong with him or to give him time to actually get better. Their not doing themselves or Votto any favors this way.

Yeah, highly unlikely it's a lingering ear infection at this point.

Reds Fanatic
05-29-2009, 09:38 PM
Hart flies out to center. 1 out.

Reds Fanatic
05-29-2009, 09:41 PM
Cueto has had good control all year but tonight he is having major control problems. Kendall walks. 1st and 2nd.

Tom Servo
05-29-2009, 09:41 PM
Cueto doesn't seem to have much today.

VR
05-29-2009, 09:43 PM
Can they quit the nonsense and get Phillips on the DL? He's got a fracture. I appreciate playing w/ pain, but get the thing healed and quit playing short handed.

_Sir_Charles_
05-29-2009, 09:43 PM
I think Cueto's getting frustrated. He's getting squeezed pretty heavily. I've seen at least 4-5 pitches called balls that were strikes. Gameday agrees.

Reds Fanatic
05-29-2009, 09:43 PM
Looper sacrifices the runners to 2nd and 3rd on an 0-2 count. 2 outs.

VR
05-29-2009, 09:44 PM
Cueto doesn't seem to have much today.

At least the bullpen is rested.
38 pitches through 1 2/3.....may be a quick night if he can't find it soon.

Tom Servo
05-29-2009, 09:46 PM
Walks Counsell on 3-2 to load the bases.


Eek.

Reds Fanatic
05-29-2009, 09:46 PM
4 walks already. Counsell walks. Bases loaded.

CTA513
05-29-2009, 09:47 PM
Its only the 2nd inning and hes already closing in on 50 pitches.

redsfaninbsg
05-29-2009, 09:48 PM
Just when you think the Joey Votto situation is over........

Reds Fanatic
05-29-2009, 09:49 PM
Hardy grounds out to 2nd. 2-0 Brewers after 2.

VR
05-29-2009, 09:49 PM
Nice play JHJ.....Feliz Navidad Johnny.....let's hope that is behind him.

Reds Fanatic
05-29-2009, 09:49 PM
49 pitches already for Cueto.

Falls City Beer
05-29-2009, 09:49 PM
I'm not being sarcastic when I say that Cueto is just 23. For the first time he's pitching in a game that sort of matters.

Tom Servo
05-29-2009, 09:51 PM
Nice play JHJ.....Feliz Navidad Johnny.....let's hope that is behind him.
I believe you mean feliz cumpleanos, unless you are intentionally wishing JHJ a Merry Christmas.

Reds Fanatic
05-29-2009, 09:52 PM
Gonzalez strikes out swinging. 1 out.

Reds Fanatic
05-29-2009, 09:53 PM
Rosales pops out to 1st. 2 outs.

VR
05-29-2009, 09:54 PM
I believe you mean feliz cumpleanos, unless you are intentionally wishing JHJ a Merry Christmas.

Sorry....Feliz Navidad to Cueto for getting out of that inning w/o big damage. :party:

Reds Fanatic
05-29-2009, 09:54 PM
Cueto grounds out to short. That was a 9 pitch inning. 2-0 Brewers mid 3rd.

Reds Fanatic
05-29-2009, 09:57 PM
Braun flies out to center. 1 out.

Reds Fanatic
05-29-2009, 09:58 PM
Fielder flies out to left. 2 outs.

VR
05-29-2009, 09:59 PM
yay Johnny!

10 pitch inning to get it back on the tracks

Tom Servo
05-29-2009, 10:00 PM
Sorry....Feliz Navidad to Cueto for getting out of that inning w/o big damage. :party:
Ah I see, my mistake.


Feliz cumpleanos and navidad to everybody!

Reds Fanatic
05-29-2009, 10:00 PM
Cameron strikes out swinging. A 10 pitch inning. 2-0 Brewers after 3.

nate
05-29-2009, 10:02 PM
Chat = open.

VR
05-29-2009, 10:02 PM
Ah I see, my mistake.


Feliz cumpleanos and navidad to everybody!

oui!

:)

Reds Fanatic
05-29-2009, 10:04 PM
Taveras grounds out to short. 1 out.

Tom Servo
05-29-2009, 10:04 PM
The Reds aren't even looking good at the plate right now.

Reds Fanatic
05-29-2009, 10:04 PM
Hairston fouls out to 1st on the first pitch. 2 outs.

nate
05-29-2009, 10:05 PM
Fielder pulled that one out of the hat.

Reds Fanatic
05-29-2009, 10:06 PM
Hanigan walks.

Tom Servo
05-29-2009, 10:07 PM
Razor Ramon ties it up! 2 run shot!

VR
05-29-2009, 10:07 PM
Hanigan walks....Hernandez ties it with a towering Jack :beerme:

alloverjr
05-29-2009, 10:07 PM
Taveras' plate approach makes my head hurt. Hernandez's however does not.

Red in Chicago
05-29-2009, 10:07 PM
RAMON ties it up!!!!!

Reds Fanatic
05-29-2009, 10:07 PM
Hernandez homers to left!! Tie game 2-2.

CTA513
05-29-2009, 10:07 PM
Looper didn't learn from Cueto about walking a batter and then giving up a homer.

2-2 tie game

VR
05-29-2009, 10:09 PM
Hernandez certainly looking like a brilliant pickup by Walt. Just exceptional in all aspects this year.

Reds Fanatic
05-29-2009, 10:10 PM
Bruce grounds out to 1st. 2-2 mid 4th.

Falls City Beer
05-29-2009, 10:11 PM
Best catching combo in the bigs? That's affirmative.

Orenda
05-29-2009, 10:11 PM
Hernandez certainly looking like a brilliant pickup by Walt. Just exceptional in all aspects this year.

He's been good. I admit I wasn't thrilled about Walt trading for him, but its worked well, although Hanigan is proving to be no fluke either.

RedsManRick
05-29-2009, 10:12 PM
Best catching combo in the bigs? That's affirmative.

I'll take Joe Mauer and Mike Redmond. But yeah, our catchers have been an asset this year.

Falls City Beer
05-29-2009, 10:14 PM
I'll take Joe Mauer and Mike Redmond. But yeah, our catchers have been an asset this year.

Not me. Hanigan and Hernandez have been excellent in all aspects this season--Redmond is a sub-replacement level bat.

Reds Fanatic
05-29-2009, 10:14 PM
Gabel grounds out to 1st.
Hart strikes out looking. 2 outs.

Tom Servo
05-29-2009, 10:14 PM
Good inning for Cueto there.

Reds Fanatic
05-29-2009, 10:15 PM
Kendall flies out to right. 2-2 after 4.

Reds Fanatic
05-29-2009, 10:16 PM
71 pitches through 4 for Cueto.

redsfaninbsg
05-29-2009, 10:18 PM
If Cueto can pitch effectively he could get 6 innings in tonight.

Reds Fanatic
05-29-2009, 10:19 PM
Nix strikes out swinging. 1 out.

Tom Servo
05-29-2009, 10:21 PM
A-Gon really making Looper work.

Reds Fanatic
05-29-2009, 10:23 PM
Gonzalez strikes out swinging. 2 outs.

Reds Fanatic
05-29-2009, 10:23 PM
Rosales flies out to center. 2-2 mid 5th.

Reds Fanatic
05-29-2009, 10:26 PM
Looper grounds out in front of the plate. 1 out.

Reds Fanatic
05-29-2009, 10:30 PM
Counsell grounds out to 1st.
Hardy grounds out to 3rd. 2-2 after 5.

Reds Fanatic
05-29-2009, 10:31 PM
86 pitches for Cueto.

VR
05-29-2009, 10:33 PM
Waiting for those kids to flip Jeff off.

Reds Fanatic
05-29-2009, 10:34 PM
Cueto attempts a bunt and grounds out to Looper.
Taveras attempts a bunt and pops out to Looper.

Reds Fanatic
05-29-2009, 10:36 PM
Hairston flies out to center. 2-2 mid 6th.

Red in Chicago
05-29-2009, 10:39 PM
taveras now 7 for his last 39 at bats...

Reds Fanatic
05-29-2009, 10:39 PM
Braun lines a double to left center.

Tom Servo
05-29-2009, 10:39 PM
Leadoff double for Braun. Hopefully Cueto can buckle down here.

Reds Fanatic
05-29-2009, 10:41 PM
Fielder flies out to center. 1 out. Braun goes to 3rd.

Tom Servo
05-29-2009, 10:42 PM
Nix GUNS down the runner at home!

Red in Chicago
05-29-2009, 10:42 PM
NIXY throws out Braun

Reds Fanatic
05-29-2009, 10:42 PM
Double play!!! Cameron flies out to left and Nix throws the runner out at the plate on a perfect throw. 2-2 after 6.

HotCorner
05-29-2009, 10:42 PM
Beautiful.

VR
05-29-2009, 10:43 PM
Nice Nix....I knew that gun was gonna get somebody sooner or later.

Man I dig outfield defense!

HotCorner
05-29-2009, 10:43 PM
Perfect throw by Nix. Excellent job by Hanigan to block the plate, catch the ball and make the tag.

redsmetz
05-29-2009, 10:45 PM
Perfect throw by Nix. Excellent job by Hanigan to block the plate, catch the ball and make the tag.

Isn't it nice to have catchers who hold on to the ball at the plate?

Reds Fanatic
05-29-2009, 10:46 PM
Leadoff walk for Hanigan

Reds Fanatic
05-29-2009, 10:47 PM
Hernandez flies out to 2nd. 1 out.

redsmetz
05-29-2009, 10:48 PM
Ramirez pops out to second. One away.

Reds Fanatic
05-29-2009, 10:48 PM
Bruce pops out to 2nd. 2 outs.

Ron Madden
05-29-2009, 10:48 PM
Isn't it nice to have catchers who hold on to the ball at the plate?


Yes it is. :thumbup:

David Ross dropped more throws than any catcher I ever saw.

redsfaninbsg
05-29-2009, 10:49 PM
Bruce and Hanigan both swing at the first pitch after a walk...

redsfaninbsg
05-29-2009, 10:50 PM
3 straight first pitch swinging.

Tony Cloninger
05-29-2009, 10:50 PM
I am surprised hernandez tried to hit the 1st pitch and well...Bruce i am not surprised beacuse he does this more often than not.

And now Nix does it.... is anyone paying attention?

Reds Fanatic
05-29-2009, 10:50 PM
After the walk 3 pitches and 3 outs. Nix pops out to short. 2-2 mid 7th.

CTA513
05-29-2009, 10:51 PM
After the walk 3 pitches and 3 outs. Nix pops out. 2-2 mid 7th.

:barf:

Reds Fanatic
05-29-2009, 10:51 PM
That is 95 pitches for Looper. Cueto is at 94 pitches.

Falls City Beer
05-29-2009, 10:51 PM
Looper is just pumping in junkball after junkball offspeed pitches. Trouble is, he's getting them over for strikes.

Reds Fanatic
05-29-2009, 10:53 PM
Gabel pops out to short on the first pitch.

CTA513
05-29-2009, 10:53 PM
3-2 Brewers after Hart hits a solo homer

Tom Servo
05-29-2009, 10:53 PM
Corey Hart homers. Brewers up 3-2. Not good.

Reds Fanatic
05-29-2009, 10:53 PM
Hart homers to left center. 3-2 Brewers.

Tony Cloninger
05-29-2009, 10:55 PM
Maybe that is why they swung beacuse it looked like hittable junk...and it really does from here. However...SOMEONE had to be on the bench telling at least NIX not to swing at the 1st pitch.

Reds Fanatic
05-29-2009, 10:55 PM
Kendall grounds out to 3rd. 2 outs.

Reds Fanatic
05-29-2009, 10:55 PM
Gerut hitting for Looper

Reds Fanatic
05-29-2009, 10:56 PM
Gerut grounds out to Cueto. 3-2 Brewers after 7.

BCubb2003
05-29-2009, 10:58 PM
Cueto kept his seven innings streak alive.

Reds Fanatic
05-29-2009, 10:58 PM
Coffey in to pitch the 8th.

Tom Servo
05-29-2009, 10:59 PM
A-Gon with a leadoff hit against the legendary Todd Coffey.

Reds Fanatic
05-29-2009, 10:59 PM
Gonzalez singles to center.

Reds Fanatic
05-29-2009, 10:59 PM
Hall is in to play 3rd batting 9th for the Brewers

Reds Fanatic
05-29-2009, 11:01 PM
Rosales singles to center. 1st and 2nd.

alloverjr
05-29-2009, 11:02 PM
Do NOT bunt Dickerson to bring up Taveras.

_Sir_Charles_
05-29-2009, 11:02 PM
Dickerson PH'ing for Cueto.

Reds Fanatic
05-29-2009, 11:02 PM
Dickerson hitting for Cueto

redsmetz
05-29-2009, 11:04 PM
Do NOT bunt Dickerson to bring up Taveras.

So far he's showing no sign of bunting. Count 2 and 1.

Tom Servo
05-29-2009, 11:04 PM
King Arthur Rhodes warming up in the bullpen.

Tom Servo
05-29-2009, 11:05 PM
Dickerson hits into a double play. Argh.

Reds Fanatic
05-29-2009, 11:05 PM
Dickerson grounds into a 4-3 DP. Runner at 3rd with 2 outs.

_Sir_Charles_
05-29-2009, 11:05 PM
DP ball. Gonzo to third.

CTA513
05-29-2009, 11:05 PM
Rosales helped the Brewers with that double play.

redsfaninbsg
05-29-2009, 11:06 PM
1st and 2nd none out and you don't bunt......... Taveras does have the ability to get a hit, and if he doesn't you still have Hairston.

Falls City Beer
05-29-2009, 11:07 PM
So much for the "never bunt" strategy.

Reds Fanatic
05-29-2009, 11:08 PM
Taveras grounds out to short. 3-2 Brewers mid 8th.

CTA513
05-29-2009, 11:08 PM
1st and 2nd none out and you don't bunt......... Taveras does have the ability to get a hit, and if he doesn't you still have Hairston.

Rosales also has the ability to stop and not run into a double play.

Falls City Beer
05-29-2009, 11:09 PM
Anybody here could have seen Coffey as the all-star middle reliever while Burton ended up on the scrapheap?

You simply do not know this game. Ever.

AmarilloRed
05-29-2009, 11:09 PM
How many options does Dickerson have left? He really is not helping the big club at this point.

HotCorner
05-29-2009, 11:09 PM
Rosales helped the Brewers with that double play.

Agreed. If he had simply stopped, the dp is not completed. If he continues in a straight path, he might have gotten an obstruction call.

Tony Cloninger
05-29-2009, 11:09 PM
I did not mind it not bunting. I thought up 2-0...he would have received a good pitch to hit.

Taveras lunges at pitches and looks bad hitting right now.

Reds Fanatic
05-29-2009, 11:10 PM
Rhodes in to pitch

Tony Cloninger
05-29-2009, 11:11 PM
Rosales could have done the Albert Belle vs Fernando Vina play.

Falls City Beer
05-29-2009, 11:12 PM
I'll go back to what I said the other day: no Votto, no contention. I'm with alloverjr. It's time for the Mayo Clinic and the DL for Joey.

Ron Madden
05-29-2009, 11:12 PM
How many options does Dicker have left? He really is not helping the big club at this point.

Dickerson is getting on base at a higher percentage than Taveras.

Reds Fanatic
05-29-2009, 11:12 PM
Counsell and Hardy both fly out to right. 2 outs.

Big Klu
05-29-2009, 11:13 PM
Agreed. If he had simply stopped, the dp is not completed. If he continues in a straight path, he might have gotten an obstruction call.

The baserunner must yield to a fielder who is attempting to make a play. Otherwise, the umpire can call interference against the runner and award the DP. I think the other baserunner would also be sent back to second base.

Now Rosales could have stopped, and forced Counsell to come to him to tag him.

alloverjr
05-29-2009, 11:13 PM
I did not mind it not bunting. I thought up 2-0...he would have received a good pitch to hit.

Taveras lunges at pitches and looks bad hitting right now.

I agree. Even if Dickerson gets the bunt down successfully, Taveras wouldn't get the run in and you got Hairston up with 2 out. Frankly, Taveras is an offensive wet blanket, especially at the top.

redsfaninbsg
05-29-2009, 11:13 PM
To me, by not bunting you are saying you give Dickerson a better chance of getting a hit than Taveras getting a hit, getting a sac fly, or getting a bunt base hit.

CTA513
05-29-2009, 11:14 PM
Anybody here could have seen Coffey as the all-star middle reliever while Burton ended up on the scrapheap?

You simply do not know this game. Ever.

Coffey hasn't come close to pitching as well as Burton did the past 2 seasons.

Reds Fanatic
05-29-2009, 11:15 PM
Braun strikes out swinging. 3-2 Brewers after 8.

alloverjr
05-29-2009, 11:15 PM
Good inning by Rhodes. On to the 9th.

Falls City Beer
05-29-2009, 11:15 PM
With the exception of Hanigan and one Hernandez swing the offense has been dog-awful tonight. Just terrible. They got drunk on horrible Houston pitching and ran into a strike-throwing buzzkill tonight.

Reds Fanatic
05-29-2009, 11:15 PM
Hoffman coming in to pitch.

Hairston, Hanigan and Hernandez due up

alloverjr
05-29-2009, 11:16 PM
To me, by not bunting you are saying you give Dickerson a better chance of getting a hit than Taveras getting a hit, getting a sac fly, or getting a bunt base hit.

yep.

Falls City Beer
05-29-2009, 11:17 PM
Coffey hasn't come close to pitching as well as Burton did the past 2 seasons.

Who cares about the past? My point is--everyone thought Burton was the heir apparent to the closer's role while Coffey was junk. Nope. Wrong again (myself included). Tough game to figure out.

LincolnparkRed
05-29-2009, 11:17 PM
Hoffman coming in to pitch.

Hairston, Hanigan and Hernandez due up

Another two run homer by Hanigan or hernandez would be nice

Reds Fanatic
05-29-2009, 11:18 PM
Phillips is pinch hitting

oneupper
05-29-2009, 11:18 PM
Hoffman coming in to pitch.

Hairston, Hanigan and Hernandez due up

A lot of H's right there.

Reds Fanatic
05-29-2009, 11:19 PM
Hairston flies out to center. 1 out.
Phillips hitting for Hanigan

redsfaninbsg
05-29-2009, 11:19 PM
If Phillips is able to hit, why in the world would you allow Chris Dickerson to hit if your choice is to swing away? I understand it's righty/righty but Phillips has been on fire.

Falls City Beer
05-29-2009, 11:19 PM
Signing of the offseason: Hoffman. Unhittable at age 400.

Tom Servo
05-29-2009, 11:19 PM
BP bunts directly back to Hoffman.

oneupper
05-29-2009, 11:19 PM
Phillips is pinch hitting

Don't get this.

_Sir_Charles_
05-29-2009, 11:19 PM
Why is Phillips bunting?!? Good grief.

Reds Fanatic
05-29-2009, 11:20 PM
Phillips attempts a bunt and grounds out to Hoffman. A player with Phillips power needs to be swinging in a one run game.

redsfaninbsg
05-29-2009, 11:20 PM
Atrocious managing tonight in my opinion.

Tom Servo
05-29-2009, 11:21 PM
Ramon is awesome. Now it's on Brucey.

Reds Fanatic
05-29-2009, 11:21 PM
Hernandez singles to right.

Falls City Beer
05-29-2009, 11:21 PM
Don't get this.

Me either. Indefensible move. You take down a guy who has been near-impossible to retire for BP?

_Sir_Charles_
05-29-2009, 11:21 PM
Ramon keeps the game alive with a single. I sure would love to see some "Bruuuuuuuce"'s posted soon. :O)

alloverjr
05-29-2009, 11:21 PM
Atrocious managing tonight in my opinion.

Nah, just poor baseball IQ up and down this roster.

Reds Fanatic
05-29-2009, 11:22 PM
I don't really get Phillips hitting for Hanigan. Hanigan had two good ABs drawing walks tonight. Phillips has been out for days and comes in to face Hoffman and then bunts. It just makes no sense.

Tom Servo
05-29-2009, 11:23 PM
No heroics from Bruce tonight. K's swinging.

Reds Fanatic
05-29-2009, 11:23 PM
Bruce strikes out. Reds lose 3-2.

Falls City Beer
05-29-2009, 11:24 PM
Bruce v. Hoffman's change-up. Never a chance.

Falls City Beer
05-29-2009, 11:24 PM
Very tough loss--pitching matchups now favor the Brewers. No Votto apparently.

LincolnparkRed
05-29-2009, 11:25 PM
Just a poorly managed game in the last two innings. If you are not bunting then phillips should have batted in the 8th. I bet the bunt was all Phillips, because they wouldn't expect it.

Mario-Rijo
05-29-2009, 11:26 PM
Bruce v. Hoffman's change-up. Never a chance.

Talk about one of the biggest mismatches ever. A kid who currently can't keep from diving at everything and a pitcher who just so happens to be one of the best ever at taking advantage of that sort of thing.

Ron Madden
05-29-2009, 11:26 PM
Maybe Phillips should go on the DL no reason to bunt in that situation.

CTA513
05-29-2009, 11:26 PM
Who cares about the past? My point is--everyone thought Burton was the heir apparent to the closer's role while Coffey was junk. Nope. Wrong again (myself included). Tough game to figure out.

If hitters keep hitting .275 off him this season he won't have a 2.70 ERA for long.

.305 career average against him.

LincolnparkRed
05-29-2009, 11:27 PM
Very tough loss--pitching matchups now favor the Brewers. No Votto apparently.

we could be looking at 2-5 easily. Just glad Cueto settled in after the first two innings tonight. He really seems to be maturing.

MississippiRed
05-29-2009, 11:27 PM
I don't really get Phillips hitting for Hanigan. Hanigan had two good ABs drawing walks tonight. Phillips has been out for days and comes in to face Hoffman and then bunts. It just makes no sense.

Agree, plus now BP's DL date just got bumped up several days.

Mario-Rijo
05-29-2009, 11:29 PM
Who cares about the past? My point is--everyone thought Burton was the heir apparent to the closer's role while Coffey was junk. Nope. Wrong again (myself included). Tough game to figure out.

That's what you call jumping the gun on Coffey and now jumping the gun on Burton.

VR
05-29-2009, 11:30 PM
Nah, just poor baseball IQ up and down this roster.

As evidenced by Bruce trying to yank three Hoffman pitches out to right....instead of trying to take them to left center.

Ramon's single won't be a big deal in the boxscore....but it should have some sort symbol next to it showing a highly intelligent approach. He's been doing it all year....it's fun to watch.

Falls City Beer
05-29-2009, 11:31 PM
That's what you call jumping the gun on Coffey and now jumping the gun on Burton.

Burton's toast--unless someone's going to perform surgery on him soon. Not saying Coffey's going to be great for long, but boy, you just don't know what's going to happen with bullpens.

alloverjr
05-29-2009, 11:33 PM
Ramon's single won't be a big deal in the boxscore....but it should have some sort symbol next to it showing a highly intelligent approach. He's been doing it all year....it's fun to watch.

Yet nobody else is watching.

traderumor
05-29-2009, 11:45 PM
I love winning the first game of any series. Tough losing a game giving up only 3 hits. Of course, all 1 run games are everyone's fault, low baseball IQ's, poor managing, trying to do anything to get on base...back off the ledge and enjoy the game.

WVPacman
05-30-2009, 12:38 AM
1)I put this lost squarely on Dusty b/c of his awful managing in the last two innings.Runners on 1st and 2nd we are down by only one the bunt play should have clearly been used.I could see letting the batter swing if we was down by more than three runs but we was only down one with NO OUTS.

2)If you are going to let your batter swing a way at the plate with runners on 1st and 2nd then Gomes should have been up there batting not Dickerson.Gomes has played great since coming up to the majors.Dickerson,on the other hand has done nothing and should be sent to the minors.

3)Why in the world was BP up there bunting when we need a homer? If he was up there to bunt then he should have batted in Dickersons spot If Dusty was going to bunt to get the tying and go ahead runners in scoring position.

All of this adds up to is Dusty is the main reason the reds lost the game tonight.

Ron Madden
05-30-2009, 02:06 AM
Maybe that team chemistry wasn't quite up to snuff tonight.

Go get'em tomorrow.

Razor Shines
05-30-2009, 03:13 AM
Who cares about the past? My point is--everyone thought Burton was the heir apparent to the closer's role while Coffey was junk. Nope. Wrong again (myself included). Tough game to figure out.

I still say Burton is hurt. There has to be some reason that he lost 6+ MPH on his fastball from last year to this year.

But overall I agree this is a tough game to figure out.

GAC
05-30-2009, 07:22 AM
All of this adds up to is Dusty is the main reason the reds lost the game tonight.

I disagree. Even though I thought the same last night (when BP bunted), and was thoroughly upset, we don't know that wasn't BP doing that on his own due to the fact his hand is not 100%, and he was trying to catch them off guard?

This entire team last night was up their hacking away (a lot of 1st pitch swinging) on Looper. No patience whatsoever. Ridiculous. Again - Brandon Lopper!

Gomes over Dickerson as a PHer for Cueto? On the surface, one might agree. But Coffey has been pretty much lights outs vs righties ... .231 BA .259 OB% .288 SLG% .548 OPS

Vs lefties.... .333 BA .381 OB% .487 SLG% .868 OPS

mth123
05-30-2009, 07:57 AM
The thing that made no sense to me was the whole 9th inning sequence. Hairston, Hanigan and Hernandez coming up and Hairston makes the first out. Now Hanigan, who has been one of the team's better hitters up there and he's taken down for Phillips. The only reason to do that would be to play for the Home Run. If the team is just looking to get a baserunner, Hanigan is a much better bet to get on base than Phillips is (especially since Phillips hasn't played in a week and has the broken thumb and all). So with Phillips up there, the expectation has to be that he'd be swinging from his heels trying to hit one out. Instead he bunts. What?????

I can't complain too much about Dickerson. I'm not a guy who likes giving away an out by bunting unless its an automatic out like the pitcher or some one up there, so I have no problem wuth him swinging away. If Rosales plays under control and makes the right play on the bases, it would not have been a double play. Dickerson was probably the right choice with Coffey out there pitching. If the bunt was the play, I'd have let Cueto hit for himself.

PuffyPig
05-30-2009, 01:40 PM
Who cares about the past? My point is--everyone thought Burton was the heir apparent to the closer's role while Coffey was junk. Nope. Wrong again (myself included). Tough game to figure out.


And in one month (or less) it could be reversed again.

Coffey has pitched well before. Let's see if can do it over a long period of time. He's not missing bats and his HR/FB rate is about 33% his usual rate.

I still bet Burton long term.

PuffyPig
05-30-2009, 01:42 PM
If the bunt was the play, I'd have let Cueto hit for himself.

But then you telegraph the bunt for sure. Even if you had Dickerson bunting, there is some uncertainly which increases your chances of something good happening.

mth123
05-30-2009, 01:45 PM
But then you telegraph the bunt for sure. Even if you had Dickerson bunting, there is some uncertainly which increases your chances of something good happening.

Agree, but I'd have saved Dickerson to hit for Taveras to get the run home. Cueto is a good bunter but you make a good point, perhaps Janish to bunt may have been a better choice.