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DTCromer
05-30-2009, 02:06 PM
Louisville: Sam LeCure 7:05
Carolina: Curtis Partch 6:15
Sarasota: Rafael Gonzalez 7:05
Dayton: 7:00 start Lists Curtis Partch as starter, but as we all know, that ain't happening. No sure who it will be.

OnBaseMachine
05-30-2009, 02:11 PM
The DSL Reds played at 10:30. No boxscore yet.

redsof72
05-30-2009, 03:59 PM
Oscar Castro is the Dayton starter.

JaxRed
05-30-2009, 04:56 PM
Will be at Daytona/Sarasota game tonight, just in case anyone else is.

OnBaseMachine
05-30-2009, 06:36 PM
Partch gave up a run in the first inning. In the bottom of the first, Henry led off with a double, Cozart singled him in, and Heisey just followed with a single. Two on, none out with Todd Frazier batting.

OnBaseMachine
05-30-2009, 06:38 PM
Frazier hits a 2-run double. 3-1 Carolina in the first inning. Still no outs.

Frazier now has 19 doubles.

OnBaseMachine
05-30-2009, 06:50 PM
Eymann and Parker each singled in runs. 5-1 Carolina after one inning.

OnBaseMachine
05-30-2009, 07:10 PM
Chris Heisey is 2-for-2 with two line drive singles to right.

OnBaseMachine
05-30-2009, 07:13 PM
Frazier follows with a single. He's 2-for-2 with a double and 2 RBI.

redhawk61
05-30-2009, 07:17 PM
Alonso singles in his first AB, Average now up to .301

OnBaseMachine
05-30-2009, 07:55 PM
Alonso is 2-for-2.

OnBaseMachine
05-30-2009, 08:07 PM
1-0 Louisville after three innings.

Lecure: 3 IP, 1 H, 0 R, 0 BB, 2 K

redhawk61
05-30-2009, 08:39 PM
Cozart's 2-4, He has been pretty hot lately, AVG. now back up to .270, good to see him rebounding, showing that his hot start wasn't just a flash in the pan.

aubashbrother
05-30-2009, 08:41 PM
Frazier hits another double his league leading 20th

aubashbrother
05-30-2009, 08:42 PM
Followed by a Francisco RBI single . carolina up 8 to 3

redhawk61
05-30-2009, 08:44 PM
Alonso is 2-for-2.
He needs to be in AA. He has nothing left to prove in High A IMO. Yes, he still needs work against lefties, but he isn't getting the chance. Heck a move to AA might even help in that regard because most guys at AA have almost double the AB's against lefties that Alonso has in High A, while Fraizer has even more with 58 compared to Alonso's 25.......And that Carolina lineup would be SICK!

Orenda
05-30-2009, 09:03 PM
Heisey plays touch em all. Hr (#8, none on)

Superdude
05-30-2009, 09:07 PM
I'm starting to come around on the idea that Heisey could be a major asset in the near future. Get that guy to AAA.

aubashbrother
05-30-2009, 09:08 PM
I have no idea why hes not in aaa . does he really have anything left to prove

aubashbrother
05-30-2009, 09:09 PM
Frazier 4 - 5

aubashbrother
05-30-2009, 09:29 PM
How scary is that carolina lineup gonna be when Alonso gets there. especially if heisey is still around

OnBaseMachine
05-30-2009, 09:34 PM
Alonso and Soto are both 2-for-4.

OnBaseMachine
05-31-2009, 12:15 AM
The DSL Reds won 4-0.

J. Arias: 0-for-3 walk
B. Arias: 0-for-4
Baez: 1-for-4
Pineda: 1-for-3
Diaz: 1-for-3 triple, SB, 2 RBI

Machuca: 6 IP, 3 H, 0 R, 1 BB, 1 K

Gerson: 3 IP, 0 H, 0 R, 0 BB, 2 K

OnBaseMachine
05-31-2009, 12:19 AM
Louisville lost 9-1.

Stubbs: 0-for-2 two walks
Bankston: 1-for-3 double, sac fly
Dorn: 1-for-3 walk
Griffin: 1-for-4
Richar: 1-for-4
Tatum: 0-for-2 two walks

Lecure: 5 IP, 5 H, 5 R, 2 BB, 3 K

OnBaseMachine
05-31-2009, 12:22 AM
Carolina won 9-3.

Henry: 1-for-5 double, SB
Cozart: 2-for-5 two RBI
Heisey: 3-for-5 HR (#8)
Frazier: 4-for-5 two doubles, 2 RBI...20 doubles this season
Francisco: 3-for-5
Eymann: 2-for-4 two RBI, walk
Parker: 1-for-4 walk
Castro: 2-for-4 double

Partch: 5 IP, 5 H, 1 R, 2 BB, 2 K

Watson: 2 IP, 1 H, 0 R, 0 BB, 3 K

Geronimo: 1 IP, 0 H, 0 R, 0 BB, 1 K

OnBaseMachine
05-31-2009, 12:24 AM
Sarasota lost 3-2.

Reed: 0-for-4
Alonso: 2-for-4
Soto: 2-for-4
Bour: 1-for-4 HR (#1)
Gregorius: 1-for-3

Gonzalez: 5 IP, 4 H, 0 R, 3 BB, 5 K

Beal: 1 IP, 0 H, 0 R, 0 BB, 1 K

OnBaseMachine
05-31-2009, 12:25 AM
Dayton lost 5-3 in 11 innings.

Sappelt: 2-for-5 two doubles
Mendez: 1-for-4 walk
Puckett: 0-for-3 two walks
Day: 1-for-4 sac fly
Means: 1-for-4

Castro: 6 IP, 8 H, 3 R, 1 BB, 4 K, 9 GO/1 FO

Gonzalez: 2.2 IP, 1 H, 0 R, 0 BB, 5 K

Homer Bailey
05-31-2009, 12:48 AM
Heisey is hitting .514 over his last 10 with 3 hr's, 2 SB's, 11 runs, and 10 RBI. Man is a freak.

HBP
05-31-2009, 01:07 AM
Heisey is hitting .514 over his last 10 with 3 hr's, 2 SB's, 11 runs, and 10 RBI. Man is a freak.

Yeah, he's ok.

icehole3
05-31-2009, 07:20 AM
good spot start by Parch, if you take Alonso away from Sarasota doesnt that leave them without much, keep things balanced and at least wait until after the draft, there's no hurry.

membengal
05-31-2009, 09:01 AM
good spot start by Parch, if you take Alonso away from Sarasota doesnt that leave them without much, keep things balanced and at least wait until after the draft, there's no hurry.

I could not care less about Sarasota's needs as a team.

HokieRed
05-31-2009, 10:22 AM
I've thought all along that Alonso's time of Cincinnati arrival should be Spring 2010. I still think so and the uncertainty surrounding Joey Votto should now make that even clearer. Thus IMO they should get him to AA ASAP with the idea of getting him at least a month and half at Louisville. And any talk of trading him is, IMHO, ridiculous, now more than ever.

dougdirt
05-31-2009, 12:14 PM
good spot start by Parch, if you take Alonso away from Sarasota doesnt that leave them without much, keep things balanced and at least wait until after the draft, there's no hurry.

They would still have Neftali Soto and honestly, I would think long and hard about promoting Cody Puckett from Dayton.

Sure, Soto's overall numbers look bad but April was rough... While May looks like the rest of his professional career (.363/.400/.516 with 5BB/13K). Puckett is hitting the cover off of the ball in Dayton and isn't a young guy really. He has a 1.050 OPS with 15 doubles, a triple and 5 HR in May.

icehole3
05-31-2009, 12:55 PM
I could not care less about Sarasota's needs as a team.

youre not the GM thank God

M2
05-31-2009, 01:01 PM
youre not the GM thank God

Any GM who's conducting his business in order to appease a high A affiliate the club intends to drop after this season ... well, incompetence doesn't begin to describe it.

dougdirt
05-31-2009, 01:01 PM
youre not the GM thank God

I think its more along the lines of 'I don't care if they lose their best player because we want him getting more experience against better competition'.

camisadelgolf
05-31-2009, 01:02 PM
Eymann: 2-for-4 two RBI, walk
Wow, that's already Eymann's 15th walk this year. In 125 games, he had only 25 walks last year.

HokieRed
05-31-2009, 01:23 PM
On Soto, his May is extremely impressive for the FSL. I'm not at all worried about his tough April. The kid's twenty, has put up a. 916 for May, and in a tough pitcher's league. I think the FO's going to have to start thinking about this kid's eventual position and sooner rather than later. Doug, you've probably thought more about this than anybody else, where do you see Soto playing finally? Does he have the defensive tools to play 3b? How's he compare there to Frazier?

dougdirt
05-31-2009, 01:35 PM
On Soto, his May is extremely impressive for the FSL. I'm not at all worried about his tough April. The kid's twenty, has put up a. 916 for May, and in a tough pitcher's league. I think the FO's going to have to start thinking about this kid's eventual position and sooner rather than later. Doug, you've probably thought more about this than anybody else, where do you see Soto playing finally? Does he have the defensive tools to play 3b? How's he compare there to Frazier?

He has the ability to be an average 3B in the majors, but he has a ways to go to get there. Frazier was likely better, but he didn't play much 3B. It wouldn't surprise me if Soto wound up at another position though.

membengal
05-31-2009, 01:35 PM
Any GM who's conducting his business in order to appease a high A affiliate the club intends to drop after this season ... well, incompetence doesn't begin to describe it.

Thanks. Thought that was obvious.

M2
05-31-2009, 01:45 PM
Thanks. Thought that was obvious.

It was. All you were doing was making sense.

icehole3
05-31-2009, 03:05 PM
It was. All you were doing was making sense.

It makes sense to just stop the development of Parker and Eymann because Alonso's at .300, why stop there just send him to Louisville to take Dorn's spot, I know, I know I dont know nothing and you guys know everything, your right Im wrong, you win, I lose.

mth123
05-31-2009, 03:13 PM
It makes sense to just stop the development of Parker and Eymann because Alonso's at .300, why stop there just send him to Louisville to take Dorn's spot, I know, I know I dont know nothing and you guys know everything, your right Im wrong, you win, I lose.

I'm one of Parker's biggest fans and I like Dorn as well. But Alonso is a franchise player, those others are role players. They need to step aside if necessary.

M2
05-31-2009, 03:52 PM
I'm one of Parker's biggest fans and I like Dorn as well. But Alonso is a franchise player, those others are role players. They need to step aside if necessary.

Bingo.

Plus, membengal was talking about there being no need for the Reds to consider Sarasota's chances of winning when making player decisions, though apparently that's now shifted to Parker and Eymann (and Dorn for that matter) should not be tampered with -- which is patently wrong-headed for the reasons you listed.

I could see the argument that Alonso is hitting well, but not so well that he couldn't benefit from more time in the FSL. Yet protecting Sarasota, Parker or Eymann (and I'm not even sure how Alonso's promotion would affect Eymann, who plays on the other side of the diamond) simply aren't viable concerns.

icehole3
05-31-2009, 04:42 PM
Bingo.

Plus, membengal was talking about there being no need for the Reds to consider Sarasota's chances of winning when making player decisions, though apparently that's now shifted to Parker and Eymann (and Dorn for that matter) should not be tampered with -- which is patently wrong-headed for the reasons you listed.

I could see the argument that Alonso is hitting well, but not so well that he couldn't benefit from more time in the FSL. Yet protecting Sarasota, Parker or Eymann (and I'm not even sure how Alonso's promotion would affect Eymann, who plays on the other side of the diamond) simply aren't viable concerns.

he (membengal) jumped in when I was responding to redhawk61's post and all I was saying is just because Alonso goes 2-2 no need for him to be in AAA, I understand membengal not caring about Sarasota, but he aint the GM and thats why you see the true GM not making moves because of guys having a great game, they make the adjustments IMO when someone at the big league level gets hurt, when someone in the minors ahead of Alonso gets hurt, after a draft, thats when you see those moves come because they try to keep things balanced (a couple of player at each position at each level), I know you guys like Alonso, I do too, but he aint moving until the GM has to make a move because of the draft and someone goes on the DL.

M2
05-31-2009, 04:51 PM
he (membengal) jumped in when I was responding to redhawk61's post and all I was saying is just because Alonso goes 2-2 no need for him to be in AAA, I understand membengal not caring about Sarasota, but he aint the GM and thats why you see the true GM not making moves because of guys having a great game, they make the adjustments IMO when someone at the big league level gets hurt, when someone in the minors ahead of Alonso gets hurt, after a draft, thats when you see those moves come because they try to keep things balanced (a couple of player at each position at each level), I know you guys like Alonso, I do too, but he aint moving until the GM has to make a move because of the draft and someone goes on the DL.

You said this:


good spot start by Parch, if you take Alonso away from Sarasota doesnt that leave them without much, keep things balanced and at least wait until after the draft, there's no hurry.

membengal responded:


I could not care less about Sarasota's needs as a team.

And he was 100% right. Affiliates, especially ones on the way out, serve the major league organization, not the other way around. No one cares about the Sarasota Reds, not even people in Sarasota, who barely show up for Sarasota Reds games.

I'll let you be the judge of your response to membengal making a perfectly valid point.

For the record, I could care less about Yonder Alonso. I don't like him. I don't dislike him.

icehole3
05-31-2009, 05:32 PM
dude, I know what I said and it was in response to the poster saying, OK Alonso is hot lets move him up, Im saying no, no need to move him at this time let him stay in Sarasota until the draft, I dont care about Sarasota's record either, you want him to be right, you want to be right, I said OK youre right Im wrong, what the ___ else do you want me to do, youre right OK, you win I lose

M2
05-31-2009, 05:36 PM
what the ___ else do you want me to do

I'm not the one you ought to be addressing.

icehole3
05-31-2009, 05:53 PM
youre the one pushing this thing on, I said youre right

M2
05-31-2009, 07:35 PM
youre the one pushing this thing on, I said youre right

Right. Wrong. Who cares? You done with your tantrum yet?

I won't be finding out because this board magically allows me to ignore you.