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Red in Chicago
06-01-2009, 08:20 PM
Per Fay:

Chris Dickerson 8
Adam Rosales 5
Brandon Phillips 4
Jay Bruce 9
Ramon Hernandez 3
Laynce Nix 7
Alex Gonzalez 6
Ryan Hanigan 2
Edinson Volquez 1

vs. RH Todd Wellemeyer

Phillips is hitting third, Bruce fourth.

Willy Taveras will likely play tomorrow. He's available tonight. Jerry Hairston is sick with a flu-like illness. He didn't take batting practice.

As noted earlier, Yonder Alonso was promoted to Double-A Carolina.

nate
06-01-2009, 09:15 PM
Chat is open!

Reds Fanatic
06-01-2009, 09:17 PM
Dickerson grounds out to 2nd. 1 out.

Reds Fanatic
06-01-2009, 09:18 PM
Rosales strikes out swinging on an outside pitch. 2 outs.

Reds Fanatic
06-01-2009, 09:20 PM
4 pitch walk to Phillips

KoryMac5
06-01-2009, 09:20 PM
Bruce needs to get it going this series.

Red in Chicago
06-01-2009, 09:20 PM
Reds need to be patient...Wellemeyer has walked 25 this year

KoryMac5
06-01-2009, 09:22 PM
Wellemeyer does a good job of keeping the ball down.

nate
06-01-2009, 09:23 PM
Argh...BP picked off first by the catcher.

Reds Fanatic
06-01-2009, 09:23 PM
Phillips is picked off first by Larue. 0-0 mid 1st.

KoryMac5
06-01-2009, 09:23 PM
With the bad thumb no way Phillips should have been leaning that far.

Red in Chicago
06-01-2009, 09:23 PM
phillips giveth and taketh away on the basepaths

Falls City Beer
06-01-2009, 09:24 PM
You know Larue was waiting for that opportunity.

nate
06-01-2009, 09:24 PM
phillips giveth and taketh away on the basepaths

I wisheth he'd not have doneth that.

remdog
06-01-2009, 09:26 PM
BP is a good player but he seems to think that he is actually better than he is and it gets him in trouble sometimes.

Rem

Reds Fanatic
06-01-2009, 09:27 PM
Schumaker grounds out to 1st. 1 out.

Reds Fanatic
06-01-2009, 09:29 PM
Rasmus lines a double to right center.

Falls City Beer
06-01-2009, 09:29 PM
IBB, IMO.

Reds Fanatic
06-01-2009, 09:33 PM
Pujols lines a double to center. 1-0 Cards.

Reds Fanatic
06-01-2009, 09:34 PM
Looks like Pujols hurt himself going into 2nd.

NC Reds
06-01-2009, 09:34 PM
Poo-holes needs to work on his sliding.

KoryMac5
06-01-2009, 09:35 PM
Albert staying in the game for now. I would imagine that ankle will tighten up a bit later though.

Reds Fanatic
06-01-2009, 09:37 PM
4 pitch walk to Duncan. 1st and 2nd.

Kc61
06-01-2009, 09:37 PM
Volquez threw two changeups for strikes to Pujois. Then he threw him a fastball which Pujois handled with ease. You don't throw fastballs in the strike zone to Albert unless, maybe, if you throw 97, which Volquez does not.

Reds better not give up too many more or this will be an early night.

Red in Chicago
06-01-2009, 09:37 PM
the lovefest for albert is really annoying and it's just the first inning...

Reds Fanatic
06-01-2009, 09:39 PM
Ankiel strikes out swinging. 2 outs.

KoryMac5
06-01-2009, 09:39 PM
Have to dig that stache on Larue

Reds Fanatic
06-01-2009, 09:41 PM
Larue strikes out swinging. 1-0 Cards after 1.

KoryMac5
06-01-2009, 09:42 PM
Nice recovery by Edison looks like the change up and breaking ball is working for him tonight.

Reds Fanatic
06-01-2009, 09:44 PM
Bruce lines out to left as Duncan makes a diving catch. 1 out.

alloverjr
06-01-2009, 09:44 PM
Edison done. Here comes Lincoln!

nate
06-01-2009, 09:45 PM
Ugh.

Reds Fanatic
06-01-2009, 09:45 PM
Not good. Lincoln is warming up. Volquez is hurt again. What else can go wrong.

flyer85
06-01-2009, 09:46 PM
from bad to worse ... I hope the Cards don't score 37

Reds Fanatic
06-01-2009, 09:46 PM
Hernandez grounds out to short. 2 outs.

Reds Fanatic
06-01-2009, 09:47 PM
Nix grounds out to short. 1-0 Cards mid 2nd.

redsfaninbsg
06-01-2009, 09:49 PM
I have to say for the last 8-9 years I've watched Reds baseball and gotten mad at ownership, managerial decisions, general manager, etc. It's not like that this year by and large, they just have had really bad luck. Votto hurt, EE, Volquez, Taveras, and Gonzo. It's disappointing.

Kc61
06-01-2009, 09:49 PM
Not good. Lincoln is warming up. Volquez is hurt again. What else can go wrong.

Some of us were talking today about Maloney not getting a shot. Unfortunately for Volquez, we may be seeing Maloney real soon.

No Votto, no Volquez, no good.

Odd that both Hamilton and Volquez with injuries this season.

Reds Fanatic
06-01-2009, 09:50 PM
Lincoln is in. So Volquez throws an inning with 24 pitches and apparently hurt his back again.

wheels
06-01-2009, 09:51 PM
Reds dropping like flies, chris and george slobbering over pujols. I think I need to take the rest of the night off

Reds Fanatic
06-01-2009, 09:52 PM
Thurston lines a ground rule double down the right field line. With Lincoln in this is going to be a short night.

redsfaninbsg
06-01-2009, 09:52 PM
Does anybody else get nauseas when Lincoln come in? Really, it makes me want to just turn the game off.

Reds Fanatic
06-01-2009, 09:52 PM
Wellemeyer sacrifices the runner to 3rd. 1 out.

KoryMac5
06-01-2009, 09:54 PM
Lincoln pitching for his roster spot tonight.

Reds Fanatic
06-01-2009, 09:54 PM
Ryan grounds out to 1st. Runner stays at 3rd.

Reds Fanatic
06-01-2009, 09:56 PM
Schumaker grounds out to 1st. 1-0 Cards after 2.

redsfaninbsg
06-01-2009, 09:56 PM
Is that the first inning this season where Lincoln didn't allow a run?

Tom Servo
06-01-2009, 09:57 PM
The President doesn't let the run score.

BCubb2003
06-01-2009, 09:58 PM
This is going to be Lincoln's breakout game.

Falls City Beer
06-01-2009, 10:00 PM
Man, it's like someone let the air out of this thread. Man, following this team is going to shorten my life.

Kc61
06-01-2009, 10:01 PM
This is going to be Lincoln's breakout game.

Let's not jinx him. Lincoln has seemed to have good velocity lately and his curve ball is always good. He just has to control them.

Maybe a couple Reds hits wouldn't hurt at some point.

Reds Fanatic
06-01-2009, 10:01 PM
Gonzalez flies out to right. 1 out.

nate
06-01-2009, 10:02 PM
Man, it's like someone let the air out of this thread. Man, following this team is going to shorten my life.

Man!

Reds Fanatic
06-01-2009, 10:03 PM
Hanigan grounds out to 1st. 2 outs.

KoryMac5
06-01-2009, 10:03 PM
Reds looking pretty lifeless on offense right now

Falls City Beer
06-01-2009, 10:04 PM
Man!

Man o man o war

Reds Fanatic
06-01-2009, 10:04 PM
Lincoln strikes out looking. 1-0 Cards mid 3rd.

nate
06-01-2009, 10:05 PM
Someone get this offense to Dr. House.

Blitz Dorsey
06-01-2009, 10:06 PM
This is RIDICULOUS. Just when I finally think it might be the Reds' year, they can't stay healthy. Every team in baseball has to deal with injuries but this is absurd.

Falls City Beer
06-01-2009, 10:06 PM
Official report says Volquez left with injured wrist.

Kc61
06-01-2009, 10:06 PM
Someone get this offense to Dr. House.

Maybe they can replace it with the Caroline AA offense of Heisey, Alonso, Frazier, Francisco.

Reds Fanatic
06-01-2009, 10:07 PM
Numbness in the pinkie and ring finger of the right hand for Volquez

redsfaninbsg
06-01-2009, 10:08 PM
Lincoln can't dodge another bullet.

Reds Fanatic
06-01-2009, 10:08 PM
Rasmus homers to center. 2-0 Cards.

Falls City Beer
06-01-2009, 10:08 PM
Numbness in the pinkie and ring finger of the right hand for Volquez

DL him. That doesn't sound good at all.

RedsManRick
06-01-2009, 10:08 PM
Numbness in the pinkie and ring finger of the right hand for Volquez

That can not be good.

Falls City Beer
06-01-2009, 10:09 PM
Right now they're just trying to get this game over; winning isn't an option tonight.

Falls City Beer
06-01-2009, 10:10 PM
That can not be good.

Nerve damage.

Reds Fanatic
06-01-2009, 10:10 PM
4 pitch walk to Pujols.

The_jbh
06-01-2009, 10:11 PM
Numbness in the pinkie and ring finger of the right hand for Volquez

Cardinals announcers say thats normally a sign for elbow problems...:eek:

11larkin11
06-01-2009, 10:11 PM
Carlos Fisher used to be a start until last year, IIRC. I'd rather have him as the long man right now. Or Nick Masset, who was originally the long man.

Reds Fanatic
06-01-2009, 10:12 PM
Duncan strikes out looking.

Reds Fanatic
06-01-2009, 10:13 PM
Ankiel grounds into a 4-6-3 DP. 2-0 Cards after 3.

Reds Fanatic
06-01-2009, 10:17 PM
Dickerson singles to left.

Reds Fanatic
06-01-2009, 10:17 PM
Dickerson steals 2nd.

Reds Fanatic
06-01-2009, 10:18 PM
Rosales flies out to right. Dickerson holds at 2nd. 1 out.

KoryMac5
06-01-2009, 10:19 PM
Have to get the runner over in that situation Rosales

Reds Fanatic
06-01-2009, 10:22 PM
Phillips chases ball 3 and strikes out swinging. 2 outs.

SMcGavin
06-01-2009, 10:25 PM
Cardinals announcers say thats normally a sign for elbow problems...:eek:

Yeah. Pinky and ring finger is the distribution of the ulnar nerve, which runs under the medial epicondyle of your humerus (basically right where the "funny bone" is). Compression of that nerve can lead to the numbness. Could also be something higher up, e.g. where the nerve travels in the neck or shoulder, but if it's just the pinky and ring finger I'm guessing the problem is at the elbow.

Reds Fanatic
06-01-2009, 10:26 PM
Bruce walks. 1st and 2nd.

Tom Servo
06-01-2009, 10:28 PM
Razor Ramon delivers as usual.

Reds Fanatic
06-01-2009, 10:28 PM
Hernandez singles to right. 2-1 Cards. Throw to the plate gets away. 2nd and 3rd.

Reds Fanatic
06-01-2009, 10:29 PM
Nix doubles to right. 3-2 Reds!

nate
06-01-2009, 10:29 PM
Signs of life!

Tom Servo
06-01-2009, 10:29 PM
Laynce Nix two run double!

HokieRed
06-01-2009, 10:30 PM
Hernandez may very well be this team's MVP.

HotCorner
06-01-2009, 10:30 PM
2-out RBI's. Clutch hitting by Hernandez and Nix.

KoryMac5
06-01-2009, 10:30 PM
With all the doom and gloom around this team the Reds somehow take the lead.

Kc61
06-01-2009, 10:31 PM
Yeah. Pinky and ring finger is the distribution of the ulnar nerve, which runs under the medial epicondyle of your humerus (basically right where the "funny bone" is). Compression of that nerve can lead to the numbness. Could also be something higher up, e.g. where the nerve travels in the neck or shoulder, but if it's just the pinky and ring finger I'm guessing the problem is at the elbow.


Does numbness stemming from the elbow usually indicate something serious? Certainly doesn't sound good.

Falls City Beer
06-01-2009, 10:31 PM
With all the doom and gloom around this team the Reds somehow take the lead.

Nah, the offense has got a pulse.

Tom Servo
06-01-2009, 10:31 PM
Oh man, thought A-Gon had that one. Just a deep flyout.

Reds Fanatic
06-01-2009, 10:31 PM
Gonzalez flies out to the warning track in center. 3-2 Reds mid 4th.

KoryMac5
06-01-2009, 10:32 PM
Gonzo has started to swing the bat a bit better as of late.

Falls City Beer
06-01-2009, 10:33 PM
Does numbness stemming from the elbow usually indicate something serious? Certainly doesn't sound good.

Probably a pretty long DL stay--at worst surgery.

Reds Fanatic
06-01-2009, 10:34 PM
Larue grounds out to short on the first pitch. 1 out.

SMcGavin
06-01-2009, 10:34 PM
Does numbness stemming from the elbow usually indicate something serious? Certainly doesn't sound good.

Probably just inflammation at the elbow compressing the nerve. Same type of thing that happens if you sleep on your arm weird. Probably whatever the main problem is caused the inflammation, which caused the numbness. I doubt the primary problem is a nerve issue.

SMcGavin
06-01-2009, 10:36 PM
Probably a pretty long DL stay--at worst surgery.

That is a pretty big overreaction to the limited info we have - which basically just says he had some swelling at the elbow.

Edit: I'm not saying it's couldn't be something serious, just that we don't have nearly enough info to come to that conclusion.

Reds Fanatic
06-01-2009, 10:37 PM
Thurston walks.

Falls City Beer
06-01-2009, 10:38 PM
That is a pretty big overreaction to the limited info we have - which basically just says he had some swelling at the elbow.

Edit: I'm not saying it's couldn't be something serious, just that we don't have nearly enough info to come to that conclusion.

He throws 95 MPH. I'm not betting against injury.

Reds Fanatic
06-01-2009, 10:38 PM
Wellemeyer sacrifices the runner to 2nd. 2 outs.

Falls City Beer
06-01-2009, 10:41 PM
What's refreshing though is that Dusty isn't going to get the blame for Volquez's injury. :cool:

Reds Fanatic
06-01-2009, 10:41 PM
Ryan grounds out to short. 3-2 Reds after 4.

Falls City Beer
06-01-2009, 10:41 PM
Lincoln rollin'

KoryMac5
06-01-2009, 10:41 PM
Lincoln for 5th starter.

PuffyPig
06-01-2009, 10:42 PM
Nah, the offense has got a pulse.

Gee, a second ago you said they were just trying to get the game over, that winning wasn't an option?

Kc61
06-01-2009, 10:43 PM
Probably just inflammation at the elbow compressing the nerve. Same type of thing that happens if you sleep on your arm weird. Probably whatever the main problem is caused the inflammation, which caused the numbness. I doubt the primary problem is a nerve issue.

Thanks. Have to wonder if V didn't put too much strain on the elbow compensating for the sore back. Probably a good fact that he didn't throw many pitches tonight.

Reds Fanatic
06-01-2009, 10:44 PM
Hanigan singles to center.

Falls City Beer
06-01-2009, 10:44 PM
Gee, a second ago you said they were just trying to get the game over, that winning wasn't an option?

I was saying that not to berate them, just to point out that winning when your starter goes down in the first, is second priority. This team is a lot of things, quitters isn't one of them. If anything, I love their fight.

Reds Fanatic
06-01-2009, 10:44 PM
Castillo hitting for Lincoln

11larkin11
06-01-2009, 10:45 PM
Someone tell Dusty. If you are going to bunt, just put in Arroyo

Kc61
06-01-2009, 10:45 PM
Much better outing from Lincoln tonight. Maybe he's coming around and can help things.

OldXOhio
06-01-2009, 10:45 PM
I was saying that not to berate them, just to point out that winning when your starter goes down in the first, is second priority. This team is a lot of things, quitters isn't one of them. If anything, I love their fight.

There's something about the Reds you like? Who knew?

KoryMac5
06-01-2009, 10:46 PM
Lincoln gets a lot of grief from Reds fans and rightfully so, but nice job from him tonight.

alloverjr
06-01-2009, 10:47 PM
Probably just inflammation at the elbow compressing the nerve. Same type of thing that happens if you sleep on your arm weird. Probably whatever the main problem is caused the inflammation, which caused the numbness. I doubt the primary problem is a nerve issue.

Probably. I also wonder if the use of "numbness" is a little misleading and what they really mean is tingling or a "pins and needles" type feeling. I would classify them completely different as a non-medic. For example, I've had tingling in my right foot for about six weeks which would be caused by some type of nerve compression yet it doesn't keep me from walking or even doing endurance racing. Positive thoughts.

Falls City Beer
06-01-2009, 10:47 PM
There's something about the Reds you like? Who knew?

I'm literally the ONLY poster on this site that likes this offense.

Tom Servo
06-01-2009, 10:48 PM
Good job by Castillo there, single to put Hanigan at third.

Reds Fanatic
06-01-2009, 10:48 PM
Castillo singles to right on his 25th birthday. 1st and 3rd.

redsmetz
06-01-2009, 10:48 PM
There's something about the Reds you like? Who knew?

FCB can speak for himself, but since the start of the season, while being candid, he has been fairly upbeat through most everything.

11larkin11
06-01-2009, 10:48 PM
I know he didnt hit well while in Louisville and there really isn't any room for him when Votto comes back, but I really like Wilkin Castillo. Don't know why, I just do.

Kc61
06-01-2009, 10:50 PM
Dickerson down 1-2 in the count here really needs to make contact.

Reds Fanatic
06-01-2009, 10:52 PM
Dickerson strikes out swinging on what looked like ball 4.

Falls City Beer
06-01-2009, 10:53 PM
Dickerson strikes out swinging on what looked like ball 4.

Beats a DP.

Tom Servo
06-01-2009, 10:53 PM
Rosales gets the job done. Sac fly makes it 4-2 Redlegs.

Reds Fanatic
06-01-2009, 10:53 PM
Sac fly to center by Rosales. 4-2 Reds!

Reds Fanatic
06-01-2009, 10:54 PM
Phillips grounds out to short. 4-2 Reds mid 5th.

Reds Fanatic
06-01-2009, 10:57 PM
Herrera in to pitch

Falls City Beer
06-01-2009, 10:57 PM
Dr. H takes over in the 5th.

Reds Fanatic
06-01-2009, 10:58 PM
Schumaker grounds out to short. 1 out.

PuffyPig
06-01-2009, 10:58 PM
FCB can speak for himself, but since the start of the season, while being candid, he has been fairly upbeat through most everything.


If you think FCB is the poster boy for "upbeat", you ain't coming to my parties....

Tom Servo
06-01-2009, 10:59 PM
Ramon lets one get by for once.

fearofpopvol1
06-01-2009, 10:59 PM
If the Reds can somehow pull this win out...with Volquez going out and Lincoln playing mop up...that would be pretty big.

Reds Fanatic
06-01-2009, 10:59 PM
Rasmus singles to right. He is a triple away from the cycle.

Falls City Beer
06-01-2009, 11:00 PM
Best I can tell this is a game thread, folks.

_Sir_Charles_
06-01-2009, 11:00 PM
I'm literally the ONLY poster on this site that likes this offense.

Nope, you're not alone. Of course it'd be better when it's healthy.

Reds Fanatic
06-01-2009, 11:00 PM
Pujols grounds into a 5-4-3 DP. 4-2 Reds after 5.

11larkin11
06-01-2009, 11:00 PM
Daniel Ray Herrera: Archnemesis of Albert Pujols :)

Falls City Beer
06-01-2009, 11:00 PM
Way to go Danny!

nate
06-01-2009, 11:00 PM
Nice inning by Dr. H. 5-4-3 DP to get "Prince" Albert.

oneupper
06-01-2009, 11:00 PM
If the Reds can somehow pull this win out...with Volquez going out and Lincoln playing mop up...that would be pretty big.

And the Marlins just put up a 5 spot in the sixth to go up 7-4 on the Brewers.
Go Figure!

fearofpopvol1
06-01-2009, 11:01 PM
Who knows how long Herrera will continue to be successful in the majors...but as of now, I think it's tough to overlook how much better he makes the Hamilton/Volquez trade look.

KoryMac5
06-01-2009, 11:01 PM
Danny Ray was fearless against Albert in that at bat

Falls City Beer
06-01-2009, 11:02 PM
Nice inning by Dr. H. 5-4-3 DP to get "Prince" Albert.

George has got to know what a Prince Albert is.

Reds Fanatic
06-01-2009, 11:03 PM
Edwin took batting and infield practice today. Could be ready for a rehab assignment soon.

Red in Chicago
06-01-2009, 11:04 PM
Best I can tell this is a game thread, folks.

And you essentially called the game over 5 innings ago. Let's move on.

11larkin11
06-01-2009, 11:04 PM
Once again, George Grande gets it wrong. Herrera debuted in Philly, not STL

Reds Fanatic
06-01-2009, 11:04 PM
Bruce strikes out swinging. 1 out.

KoryMac5
06-01-2009, 11:05 PM
Miller is not a good match up for Bruce, as Jay contines his descent towards Mendoza

fearofpopvol1
06-01-2009, 11:05 PM
Once again, George Grande gets it wrong. Herrera debuted in Philly, not STL

I am glad Extra Innings is showing the STL feed tonight. The STL broadcasters have to be top 5.

_Sir_Charles_
06-01-2009, 11:06 PM
Ramon.......almost. Caught right at the wall. Just a loud out to left. 2 down.

Reds Fanatic
06-01-2009, 11:06 PM
Hernandez just misses flying out to the wall in left.

Tom Servo
06-01-2009, 11:06 PM
George has got to know what a Prince Albert is.
I don't know, he seems like a guy blissfully aloof in his own world, unaware of what certain things really mean.

Reds Fanatic
06-01-2009, 11:07 PM
Nix lines a single to center.

_Sir_Charles_
06-01-2009, 11:08 PM
Nix with a sharp single up the middle.

11larkin11
06-01-2009, 11:08 PM
Nix with a hit off the lefty, nice to see

Falls City Beer
06-01-2009, 11:08 PM
And you essentially called the game over 5 innings ago. Let's move on.

Solid behavior for a moderator. I haven't called out a soul in this thread, btw.

nate
06-01-2009, 11:10 PM
Gonzo flies out to end the inning.

Reds Fanatic
06-01-2009, 11:10 PM
Gonzalez flies out to center. 4-2 Reds mid 6th.

_Sir_Charles_
06-01-2009, 11:11 PM
Soft flyout to Center to end the inning.

Top of 9th: Mets 5 / Bucs 8
Bottom of 8th: Brewers 4 / Marlins 7
Top of 8th: Rockies 1 / Astros 4

_Sir_Charles_
06-01-2009, 11:12 PM
Is it just me or has it been "pile on FCB" lately? Pretty uncalled for IMO.

_Sir_Charles_
06-01-2009, 11:13 PM
How can you not LOVE watching Herrera pitch? :O) He's just fun to watch. The hitters simply have NO CLUE what in the world he's gonna toss up there. *grin*

nate
06-01-2009, 11:14 PM
Dr. H gets the strikeout.

Reds Fanatic
06-01-2009, 11:14 PM
Duncan strikes out looking. 1 out.

NC Reds
06-01-2009, 11:15 PM
Bad throw by Ramon.

Reds Fanatic
06-01-2009, 11:15 PM
Ankiel reaches on a throwing error by Hernandez.

_Sir_Charles_
06-01-2009, 11:15 PM
Grounder to Ramon, but the toss to Herrera is high and Ankiel is safe. That's been a rare flub by Ramon at first. I actually expected to see more of that...overall, he's been a very pleasant surprise at first.

Reds Fanatic
06-01-2009, 11:15 PM
Larue flies out to center on the first pitch. 2 outs.

toledodan
06-01-2009, 11:15 PM
hernandez not having a good night at first.

_Sir_Charles_
06-01-2009, 11:16 PM
Wow. Ankiel ran past 2nd, but didn't touch it coming back on the fly out...nice heads up defense there guys. He's called out for the double play. Another solid inning for Danny.

11larkin11
06-01-2009, 11:16 PM
Thank you for telling us why you went to commercial, FSN.

fearofpopvol1
06-01-2009, 11:16 PM
Herrera is the man...no doubt about it.

He's really been an unsung hero in the pen this year. Overlooked and underappreciated at times IMO.

Reds Fanatic
06-01-2009, 11:17 PM
Wow. Ankiel ran past 2nd, but didn't touch it coming back on the fly out...nice heads up defense there guys.
I could not figure out what just happened until you posted this.

HotCorner
06-01-2009, 11:17 PM
Wow. Ankiel ran past 2nd, but didn't touch it coming back on the fly out...nice heads up defense there guys.

Thanks! TV broke away without any explanation. All you saw was Dickerson running off the field. You could clearly read his mouth "what happened?"

KoryMac5
06-01-2009, 11:17 PM
The bullpen has really stepped up tonight, holding the Card to 1 run.

BCubb2003
06-01-2009, 11:17 PM
Grounder to Ramon, but the toss to Herrera is high and Ankiel is safe.

The toss might have been normal; it's Herrera that's low.

11larkin11
06-01-2009, 11:18 PM
Oh Rick Ankiel.

Pitcher's mistake ;)

_Sir_Charles_
06-01-2009, 11:18 PM
I could not figure out what just happened until you posted this.

I'm listening...and Brantley called it before it even happened. He saw that he missed the bag on his return to first.

remdog
06-01-2009, 11:19 PM
Grounder to Ramon, but the toss to Herrera is high and Ankiel is safe.

You have to consider that he was throwing to someone the size of a lawn jockey. :lol:

Rem

11larkin11
06-01-2009, 11:19 PM
Gameday is still stuck. They are so confused right now lol

Reds Fanatic
06-01-2009, 11:19 PM
Hanigan singles to left.

_Sir_Charles_
06-01-2009, 11:19 PM
Hanigan is making a SOLID case for a starting job IMO. He's been outstanding all year.

nate
06-01-2009, 11:19 PM
Hanigan with ANOTHER hit.

NC Reds
06-01-2009, 11:20 PM
Danny Ray gets down the bunt.

nate
06-01-2009, 11:20 PM
Herrera with a sac bunt!

KoryMac5
06-01-2009, 11:20 PM
Hanigan keeps hitting, like his game would like to see some more pop in his bat though.

Reds Fanatic
06-01-2009, 11:20 PM
Herrera sacrifices the runner to 2nd.

Big Klu
06-01-2009, 11:20 PM
Oh Rick Ankiel.

Pitcher's mistake ;)

Not possible. George said it was brilliant baserunning by Ankiel to go to second, then scamper back to first.

_Sir_Charles_
06-01-2009, 11:20 PM
Herrera with the perfect sac bunt. You don't see relievers get to bat often.

Thom just said it was his 2nd ML AB.

Degenerate39
06-01-2009, 11:22 PM
How can you not LOVE watching Herrera pitch? :O) He's just fun to watch. The hitters simply have NO CLUE what in the world he's gonna toss up there. *grin*

Maybe I could get a major league job then. They haven't seen anything that slow since little league

_Sir_Charles_
06-01-2009, 11:22 PM
Chris shows some patience and draws the free pass. 2 on with 1 down.

Reds Fanatic
06-01-2009, 11:22 PM
Dickerson walks. 1st and 2nd.

_Sir_Charles_
06-01-2009, 11:23 PM
Maybe I could get a major league job then. They haven't seen anything that slow since little league

I don't recall seeing anything with that kind of location or movement in little league though. :O) It's like watching that old Bugs Bunny cartoon where they strike out all three batters with one slow ball. :D

Reds Fanatic
06-01-2009, 11:24 PM
Rosales grounds into a 5-4 FC. Good takeout slide by Dickerson. 1st and 3rd.

_Sir_Charles_
06-01-2009, 11:24 PM
Dickerson slides into 2nd hard to break up the potential DP. 1st & 3rd with 2 down.

nate
06-01-2009, 11:24 PM
Nice slide by Dickerson to break up the DP.

Reds Fanatic
06-01-2009, 11:25 PM
Phillips singles to center. 5-2 Reds!

nate
06-01-2009, 11:25 PM
BP singles in a run!

11larkin11
06-01-2009, 11:25 PM
I'll tell you what. In little time, the Reds went from 3 crappy catchers, to 2 of the best in the NL, statistically

nate
06-01-2009, 11:26 PM
Never let a guy named "Blaine" beat you.

That's so "Pretty in Pink."

Reds Fanatic
06-01-2009, 11:26 PM
Reyes coming in to pitch

_Sir_Charles_
06-01-2009, 11:26 PM
I'll tell you what. In little time, the Reds went from 3 crappy catchers, to 2 of the best in the NL, statistically

Pretty hard to argue with that. In fact, I think Ramon's got a solid argument for an All Star bid this year.

Offensively they've both been well above average, but it's their defense that really stands out in my mind.

fearofpopvol1
06-01-2009, 11:28 PM
I'll tell you what. In little time, the Reds went from 3 crappy catchers, to 2 of the best in the NL, statistically

Crappy may not even be accurate. 3 of the worst might be more apt.

flyer85
06-01-2009, 11:29 PM
until the Reds play them the next time it always slips my mind how much I dislike Larussa and the RedTirds

11larkin11
06-01-2009, 11:29 PM
Pretty hard to argue with that. In fact, I think Ramon's got a solid argument for an All Star bid this year.

Agreed. At quick glance, I think he should be the second catcher in the NL behing McCann. I'm sure Yadi will get it, though. Maybe they take 3?

Falls City Beer
06-01-2009, 11:30 PM
Do yourself a favor: go look at the Gameday picture of Dennys Reyes.

11larkin11
06-01-2009, 11:30 PM
Down and away is all they're giving Bruce. Mostly Sliders

Falls City Beer
06-01-2009, 11:31 PM
Down and away is all they're giving Bruce. Mostly Sliders

To his credit, he's done an okay job of laying off them tonight. Or at least fouling them off.

nate
06-01-2009, 11:32 PM
Do yourself a favor: go look at the Gameday picture of Dennys Reyes.

Lol, I think he's sweating!

flyer85
06-01-2009, 11:32 PM
Down and away is all they're giving Bruce. Mostly Slidersand until he learns not to swing at them he will continue to get a steady dose.

Reds Fanatic
06-01-2009, 11:32 PM
Bruce strikes swinging on a pitch in the dirt. 5-2 Reds mid 7th.

fearofpopvol1
06-01-2009, 11:33 PM
Bruce still looks lost up there. His OBP is miserable.

Falls City Beer
06-01-2009, 11:33 PM
Lol, I think he's sweating!

I really want a big "fan" pin of that picture.

KoryMac5
06-01-2009, 11:33 PM
Bruce with 45 k's on the year. The kid needs some help against those lefties unfortunately I don't think Jacoby is the answer.

Falls City Beer
06-01-2009, 11:34 PM
Bruce still looks lost up there. His OBP is miserable.

He was probably brought up a season too early. But he is still very young.

_Sir_Charles_
06-01-2009, 11:34 PM
Brewers lost 4-7 to the 'fins.
Pirates beat the Mets 8-5
'Stros up 4-1 in the top of the 9th.

And the good guys are up 5-2 in the bottom of the 7th. Herrera still in.

Reds Fanatic
06-01-2009, 11:35 PM
Thurston doubles down the right field line. His 2nd double tonight.

_Sir_Charles_
06-01-2009, 11:35 PM
Lead off Double to yank Herrera. Looks like Masset coming in.

oneupper
06-01-2009, 11:35 PM
Bruce strikes swinging on a pitch in the dirt. 5-2 Reds mid 7th.

Could he please stop doing that? :pray:

fearofpopvol1
06-01-2009, 11:35 PM
He was probably brought up a season too early. But he is still very young.

I'm not too down on him...I realize he's young. But I feel like the Reds could be doing more to help him. Give him some more days off or change where he hits in the lineup.

Reds Fanatic
06-01-2009, 11:37 PM
Massett is coming in to face Nick Statovina who is pinch hitting

Falls City Beer
06-01-2009, 11:37 PM
I'm not too down on him...I realize he's young. But I feel like the Reds could be doing more to help him. Give him some more days off or change where he hits in the lineup.

I don't think more days off is the answer, IMO.

KoryMac5
06-01-2009, 11:37 PM
Bruce sitting at .225 for the year.

_Sir_Charles_
06-01-2009, 11:38 PM
I was going to say that was Danny's longest outting of the year, but I would've been wrong. He went 3 innings in a 15-3 loss to the Brewers back on May 6th.

Pretty good stuff again tonight.

flyer85
06-01-2009, 11:39 PM
that was a play

_Sir_Charles_
06-01-2009, 11:39 PM
Nice "D" from Gonzo to steal a hit. Thurston goes to 3rd.

Reds Fanatic
06-01-2009, 11:39 PM
Fantastic play by Gonzalez!! Runner on 3rd with 1 out.

Kc61
06-01-2009, 11:39 PM
What a play by Gonzo.

fearofpopvol1
06-01-2009, 11:40 PM
I don't think more days off is the answer, IMO.

I think you try it. I do like his glove, but I think if you sit him, it'll help. I don't recommend benching him, but just giving him some extra days off.

nate
06-01-2009, 11:40 PM
Nice play by Gonzo and Ramon.

HotCorner
06-01-2009, 11:40 PM
Wow! Excellent play on both ends of that play.

_Sir_Charles_
06-01-2009, 11:42 PM
Dang. Passed ball allows Thurston to score. Should've had him.

11larkin11
06-01-2009, 11:42 PM
Hanigan getting lazy back there. Allows a run to score

Reds Fanatic
06-01-2009, 11:42 PM
Passed ball allows the runner to score. They could have thrown him out at the plate but Massett did not catch the ball.

fearofpopvol1
06-01-2009, 11:42 PM
Massett...that was awful.

fearofpopvol1
06-01-2009, 11:43 PM
Hanigan getting lazy back there. Allows a run to score

It was not Hanigan's fault. It was all Massett on that one.

Reds Fanatic
06-01-2009, 11:43 PM
Ryan grounds out to 3rd. 2 outs.

_Sir_Charles_
06-01-2009, 11:43 PM
Massett...that was awful.

Wasn't too good on Hanigan's part either. Hit his glove...pretty far from a wild pitch. Flat out a passed ball.

_Sir_Charles_
06-01-2009, 11:44 PM
Ryan grounded out to Rosales for the 2nd out.

fearofpopvol1
06-01-2009, 11:44 PM
Wasn't too good on Hanigan's part either. Hit his glove...pretty far from a wild pitch. Flat out a passed ball.

I wasn't so much saying the pitch...but the throw to Nick at home plate was completely catchable.

11larkin11
06-01-2009, 11:44 PM
It was not Hanigan's fault. It was all Massett on that one.

Sure, Massett missed the throw. But Hanigan let two balls that weren't even in the dirt get by him. He was watching Thurston on third and not watching the ball into the mitt.

Kc61
06-01-2009, 11:45 PM
Passed ball allows the runner to score. They could have thrown him out at the plate but Massett did not catch the ball.


Looked to me like it would have been very tough to tag out the runner on that passed ball. Massett tried a sweeping tag but didn't have the ball. That one's on Hanigan, IMO.

_Sir_Charles_
06-01-2009, 11:45 PM
It was not Hanigan's fault. It was all Massett on that one.

How so? The pitch hit Hanigan in the mitt from what Thom/Brantley are saying.

11larkin11
06-01-2009, 11:45 PM
Masset just hit 97

Falls City Beer
06-01-2009, 11:45 PM
I think you try it. I do like his glove, but I think if you sit him, it'll help. I don't recommend benching him, but just giving him some extra days off.

Who knows? I guess I'm just going on the conventional wisdom that reps are what makes hitters better.

Reds Fanatic
06-01-2009, 11:46 PM
Schumaker grounds out to 2nd. 5-3 Reds after 7.

fearofpopvol1
06-01-2009, 11:46 PM
How so? The pitch hit Hanigan in the mitt from what Thom/Brantley are saying.

The throw from Ryan was fine. I saw it on TV. Oh well...it's done with now. Let's just hope 2 runs is enough.

fearofpopvol1
06-01-2009, 11:47 PM
Who knows? I guess I'm just going on the conventional wisdom that reps are what makes hitters better.

You may be right...I don't know. He's just looked miserable. Maybe spending a day on the bench may help him? You never know.

_Sir_Charles_
06-01-2009, 11:47 PM
The throw from Ryan was fine. I saw it on TV. Oh well...it's done with now. Let's just hope 2 runs is enough.

Oh, we're talking about different things. The throw from Hanigan to Masset at the plate...yeah, that's on Masset. I was talking about the ball going to the backstop in the first place. It shouldn't have happened.

remdog
06-01-2009, 11:48 PM
Hanigan getting lazy back there. Allows a run to score

Lazy or tired. After all, he really hasn't played a lot this year and with Votto out, he's getting a lot of work.

Rem

Reds Fanatic
06-01-2009, 11:48 PM
Chris Perez in to pitch

_Sir_Charles_
06-01-2009, 11:49 PM
Ramon flies out to center on the first pitch.