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Red in Chicago
06-05-2009, 06:58 PM
Per Fay:

Hairston 3b
Dickerson cf
Phillips 2b
Nix lf
Hernandez c
Bruce rf
Gonzalez ss
Rosales 1b
Owings p

(Owings 0-2, 6.75 ERA in career vs. Cubs, in 16 innings)

-Nix batting cleanup (has done so once previously this year)....Bruce batting 6th (3rd time he has hit there this year). Bruce was 1-for-27 on the road trip, and is on 0-for-17 skid. And in his last 13g, is 5-for-47 (.106).

Dusty Baker, pre-game, discussing Bruce hitting 6th: "We're just trying to take a little pressure off him. ... He just needs a little blooper, a little bleeder to come out of it ... rarely do you see a guy come out of it with a home run."

Also: "Nobody's pulling harder for him than any of us are."

-- Baker said he had talked again to Joey Votto, but Baker declined to provide details. We saw Votto in street clothes in the clubhouse, but reporters had already been told by Reds media relations director Rob Butcher that Votto is not yet ready to speak publicly. Votto went on the DL on May 30 because of stress and is eligible to come off the DL June 14. Baker said he does not have a timetable on Votto's return.

--Willy Taveras (hamstring) could be available in an emergency tonight, Baker said. Taveras has missed five of the last six games with a tight right hammy.

Cubs lineup:
Soriano lf
Theriot ss
Fukudome cf
D.Lee 1b
Hoffpauir rf
Fontenot 3b
K.Hill C
A.Blanco 2b
C.Zambrano p
(Zambrano is 14-10 career vs. Reds, 3.06 ERA, in 32 g (28 starts)

Chip R
06-05-2009, 07:52 PM
Let's whip these guys' butts and send a lot of people going to the game home unhappy.

Red in Chicago
06-05-2009, 08:01 PM
I had tickets to tonight's game. I was going to bring my parents (Cub fans). Unfortunately, we couldn't make trip, so we're stuck watching on tv. Is it wrong that I was hoping for a rainout;)

Reds/Flyers Fan
06-05-2009, 08:23 PM
And here we go again. Yet another first-inning deficit, this time a gift coming on three walks!

GABP must be rocking right now

Falls City Beer
06-05-2009, 08:27 PM
And here we go again. Yet another first-inning deficit, this time a gift coming on three walks!

GABP must be rocking right now

I certainly hope the Owings experiment is over after tonight. Please be good, Maloney.

PuffyPig
06-05-2009, 08:27 PM
If Hairston had any kind of arm, and the umpire had any kind of eyesight, Owings retires 6 of the 7 batters he faced, 4 on strikes.

I hope we get the same strike zone.

Bob Borkowski
06-05-2009, 08:33 PM
Cubs 1, Reds 0 after 1.

Bob Borkowski
06-05-2009, 08:39 PM
1-2-3 inning for Owings. Cubs still lead 1-0 middle of 2nd.

Bob Borkowski
06-05-2009, 08:56 PM
So, at the middle of the 3rd...still Cubs 1 and Red Stockings 0. Owings has settled down nicely.

We are patiently waiting for the fireworks.

_Sir_Charles_
06-05-2009, 08:57 PM
After a shaky first, Owings has settled down nicely. 5 k's. Nice play by Rosales at first to end the inning. 1-0 Cubs after 2 1/2

Tom Servo
06-05-2009, 09:03 PM
Why must they remind me of the Phil Dumatrait Reds era?

_Sir_Charles_
06-05-2009, 09:06 PM
How's this for surprising...3rd inning, Greinke's allowed 4 runs already. Including his first dinger in I don't know HOW long.

Okay, make that 6 earned runs in the 3rd.

Tom Servo
06-05-2009, 09:14 PM
1-2-3 inning for Owings. How about the offense gets something going now?

_Sir_Charles_
06-05-2009, 09:15 PM
1-2-3 fourth for Owings. If not for that leadoff single off Hairston's glove in the 3rd, Owings would've had 3 straight 3 up's 3 down's. I don't know what it is with Reds starters and rough first innings, but it's certainly becoming a trend.

Tom Servo
06-05-2009, 09:16 PM
BP looked terrible in that at-bat.

membengal
06-05-2009, 09:17 PM
Depressing watching this offense the last 13 innings or so.

Tom Servo
06-05-2009, 09:20 PM
Remember when we could and would crush Zambrano? This is depressing.

Bob Borkowski
06-05-2009, 09:24 PM
Speaking of 'crush' and 'Zambrano'...Carlos crushes one. Cubs now 2-0.

BCubb2003
06-05-2009, 09:27 PM
What's the deal with MLB.com losing the radio feed? It seems to happen several times a game.

CTA513
06-05-2009, 09:28 PM
Speaking of 'crush' and 'Zambrano'...Carlos crushes one. Cubs now 2-0.

:owned:

fearofpopvol1
06-05-2009, 09:30 PM
I know Owings isn't that stellar...but he's actually looked really good tonight (sans the 1st inning). Even with the jack to Zambrano.

His pitches have really good movement and he's not making many mistakes. It's like he's playing to keep his job (which may be the reality upon Volkie's return).

oneupper
06-05-2009, 09:32 PM
Zambrano looking to pull a Rick Wise?

_Sir_Charles_
06-05-2009, 09:35 PM
Wow, MLB Tonight is showing highlights and I've seen 2 HORRIBLE defensive plays by Dunn. A pop up he lets fall that shouldn't even have been close. And now a line single that goes under his glove as he covers his eyes as he tries to make the grab. I don't know if it was insects or what, but I didn't see any sun around there. Really, really bad. The immediate quote they used "he seems to be allergic to leather". He's having a fantastic season, I'd hate to see him blemish it with a lack of focus on defense.

Red in Chicago
06-05-2009, 09:36 PM
Now is the time to rattle z-man

oneupper
06-05-2009, 09:37 PM
Rick Wise smiles.

Bob Borkowski
06-05-2009, 09:37 PM
Dunn is Dunn.

_Sir_Charles_
06-05-2009, 09:39 PM
Dunn is Dunn.

I know, but I really though he was making strides last year defensively. Apparently not though.

Tom Servo
06-05-2009, 09:39 PM
You know thing aren't going your way when...

_Sir_Charles_
06-05-2009, 09:40 PM
Crud. Really nice snag by Hoffpaiur (sp?) to end the threat.

PuffyPig
06-05-2009, 09:42 PM
Wow, MLB Tonight is showing highlights and I've seen 2 HORRIBLE defensive plays by Dunn. A pop up he lets fall that shouldn't even have been close. And now a line single that goes under his glove as he covers his eyes as he tries to make the grab. I don't know if it was insects or what, but I didn't see any sun around there. Really, really bad. The immediate quote they used "he seems to be allergic to leather". He's having a fantastic season, I'd hate to see him blemish it with a lack of focus on defense.


He's starting to slump offensively too.

Tom Servo
06-05-2009, 09:49 PM
Six innings, two runs. Just about 100 pitches for Owings.

Tom Servo
06-05-2009, 09:55 PM
That was terrible.

CTA513
06-05-2009, 09:55 PM
How do you get doubled off first on a pop up in foul territory?

Bob Borkowski
06-05-2009, 09:57 PM
After 6, still 2-zip Cubs.

Mario-Rijo
06-05-2009, 09:58 PM
How do you get doubled off first on a pop up in foul territory?

Bye stealing on the pitch.

Red in Chicago
06-05-2009, 09:58 PM
three hits yesterday...1 so far today...ugly...

fearofpopvol1
06-05-2009, 09:59 PM
The only hope the Reds have is for Z to self destruct. But by the time that happens, Sweet Lou will have the pen working and him out of the game. So I don't know.

Red in Chicago
06-05-2009, 10:00 PM
overall respectable start for owings...

Bob Borkowski
06-05-2009, 10:10 PM
Reds coming up...bottom of the 7th...still trailing 2-0.

I still have confidence that Cincy can pull this one out.

reds44
06-05-2009, 10:12 PM
Bruce snaps his 0-17 and sends Zambrano to the showers.

reds44
06-05-2009, 10:12 PM
Well, maybe not.

_Sir_Charles_
06-05-2009, 10:13 PM
It's gone largely unnoticed, but a good game by Jay tonight. 1 for 1 with 2 walks.

Bob Borkowski
06-05-2009, 10:13 PM
Bruce snaps his 0-17 and sends Zambrano to the showers.

Bruce did hit a 'rocket' according to Thom.

Bob Borkowski
06-05-2009, 10:15 PM
Walk to Rosales. 2 on and 2 out for Gomes.

Red in Chicago
06-05-2009, 10:15 PM
now or never boys...let's get 'em in

_Sir_Charles_
06-05-2009, 10:15 PM
2 out walk to Rosie. 2 on, 2 out.

KYRedsFan
06-05-2009, 10:15 PM
well, our chance is here. Let's do it. See ya Z

_Sir_Charles_
06-05-2009, 10:16 PM
Really tight zone by the ump all night. For both pitchers. Zambrano got squeezed pretty bad on that Rosales AB.

CrackerJack
06-05-2009, 10:18 PM
That's the largest Cubs fan I've ever seen.

Bob Borkowski
06-05-2009, 10:18 PM
Gomes is 1 for 6 as a pinch-hitter.

_Sir_Charles_
06-05-2009, 10:19 PM
Sure would be a nice time for Gomes' first Redleg dinger

Degenerate39
06-05-2009, 10:19 PM
That's the largest Cubs fan I've ever seen.

For the first time ever George made me laugh when he said "JD put on a little weight"

Red in Chicago
06-05-2009, 10:19 PM
That's the largest Cubs fan I've ever seen.

who knew dom deluise was still alive and a cub fan

KYRedsFan
06-05-2009, 10:21 PM
hot shot toward the hole

Tom Servo
06-05-2009, 10:21 PM
So much for that.

reds44
06-05-2009, 10:21 PM
This team desperatley needs another bat.

PuffyPig
06-05-2009, 10:26 PM
Last night we BABIP 2-24, 2-16 tonight.

4-40 over two nights, .100.

Good pitching, yes, but a lot of bad luck too. Normally we'd have about another 11-12 hits with an average BABIP.

_Sir_Charles_
06-05-2009, 10:27 PM
This team desperatley needs to get healthy.

Fixed that for you. ;)

reds44
06-05-2009, 10:27 PM
Dickerson is a fantastic defensive CFer

Mario-Rijo
06-05-2009, 10:27 PM
Wow, Dickerson with another fine snag out there in CF! Fantabulous!!! :beerme:

_Sir_Charles_
06-05-2009, 10:28 PM
I was very skeptical about the Arthur Rhodes signing when it happened as I thought we had stuff as good in house already. But man, I haven't seen ANY reliever as impressive as Rhodes has been this year. REALLY impressive.

Chip R
06-05-2009, 10:29 PM
Tavaras would have gone back on that ball a couple of steps and then ran in and just missed it.

Tom Servo
06-05-2009, 10:32 PM
Tough 3-1 call there.

Red in Chicago
06-05-2009, 10:32 PM
Hairston complains an awful lot.

Bob Borkowski
06-05-2009, 10:32 PM
OK, here we go!

Bob Borkowski
06-05-2009, 10:33 PM
32,374 in attendance tonight. I expected more, but then I always expect more.

_Sir_Charles_
06-05-2009, 10:33 PM
6th walk drawn for the Redlegs tonight. Showing much better patience tonight.

Tom Servo
06-05-2009, 10:35 PM
BP!!!

Bob Borkowski
06-05-2009, 10:35 PM
Triple!!!!!!!!!!!! BP.

SirFelixCat
06-05-2009, 10:37 PM
How about that catch by Dickerson, then BP comes thru...


And Nix...man we needed a sac fly there. Come on Ramon!!!

Bob Borkowski
06-05-2009, 10:37 PM
Nix pops out. 2 gone.

Tom Servo
06-05-2009, 10:37 PM
Nix pops up. Arggh. 2 out, Razor Ramon up with BP on third.

Chip R
06-05-2009, 10:38 PM
Here comes the bad guy.

reds44
06-05-2009, 10:38 PM
Dadgummit Laynce

Tom Servo
06-05-2009, 10:39 PM
Da Bad Guy walks. Bruce up.

Red in Chicago
06-05-2009, 10:39 PM
come on bruce

Bob Borkowski
06-05-2009, 10:39 PM
He walks and here is Bruce. Can he do it?

Tony Cloninger
06-05-2009, 10:40 PM
Patient yes....but still....Marmol could have walked CD and Nix if they had let him. He is all over the place. Don't try to be a hero...let him walk you.

Reds/Flyers Fan
06-05-2009, 10:40 PM
Nix with a terribly disappointing at-bat.

SirFelixCat
06-05-2009, 10:40 PM
PUH-LEEESE show patience, Jay.

reds44
06-05-2009, 10:40 PM
Come on Jay.

Tom Servo
06-05-2009, 10:41 PM
Argh. Jay swinging at low pitches.

Mario-Rijo
06-05-2009, 10:41 PM
Rothschild told him to "make your pitches and let him get himself out".

Bob Borkowski
06-05-2009, 10:41 PM
Ouch!

Tom Servo
06-05-2009, 10:41 PM
Well. :(

reds44
06-05-2009, 10:42 PM
That was bad Nix and Bruce as well.

Red in Chicago
06-05-2009, 10:42 PM
nix and bruce with very bad at bats there...sigh...

Mario-Rijo
06-05-2009, 10:42 PM
Rothschild told him to "make your pitches and let him get himself out".

And he did! Bummer! :(

Reds/Flyers Fan
06-05-2009, 10:42 PM
Matt Holliday. Just sayin'

Tony Cloninger
06-05-2009, 10:43 PM
I really was not trying to be negative...but after he swung at a ball....i said he has him. Again...He was throwing balls....i think he may have thrown a couple of strikes that whole inning. These guys just want to hit.

_Sir_Charles_
06-05-2009, 10:45 PM
Looking at gameday, only that check-swing is showing as a ball that he swung at. The other one was a strike...as was the ball he grounded out on.

PuffyPig
06-05-2009, 10:45 PM
6th walk drawn for the Redlegs tonight. Showing much better patience tonight.


Carpenter was throwing strikes all night, Cubs pitchers not so much.

reds44
06-05-2009, 10:46 PM
Rosales is a spaz.

RBA
06-05-2009, 10:47 PM
I guess you can run out of the baseline without argument by Reds or commentary by Reds TV crew.

reds44
06-05-2009, 10:52 PM
That boy can cover some ground.

Tom Servo
06-05-2009, 10:52 PM
Dickerson!

Red in Chicago
06-05-2009, 10:52 PM
the reds can get to gregg...we've still got a shot...

Tom Servo
06-05-2009, 10:54 PM
the reds can get to gregg...we've still got a shot...
This is true. Gregg kinda sucks.

Tom Servo
06-05-2009, 10:55 PM
The Riot robs A-Gon. Jerk.

reds44
06-05-2009, 10:55 PM
Gregg sucks, but so does the bottom of our order.

reds44
06-05-2009, 10:58 PM
Rosales is just awful. This team desperatley needs Votto and Edwin back.

Reds/Flyers Fan
06-05-2009, 10:59 PM
Reds fans to Walt Jocketty: Are you alive?

Tom Servo
06-05-2009, 11:00 PM
Hanigan tells the Cubs fans in Cincy to stuff it.

reds44
06-05-2009, 11:00 PM
Hanigan is a man.

Castillo running.

reds44
06-05-2009, 11:03 PM
Hairston swung at ball 4.

Tom Servo
06-05-2009, 11:03 PM
Hairston fouled away ball 4.

reds44
06-05-2009, 11:04 PM
Oh wow. I haven't seen that very often.

redsmetz
06-05-2009, 11:04 PM
Strike 3, ball gets away - everyone's safe, first and third!

Tom Servo
06-05-2009, 11:04 PM
Wow.

BCubb2003
06-05-2009, 11:04 PM
Productive strikeout.

Bob Borkowski
06-05-2009, 11:05 PM
I still have confidence that Cincy can pull this one out.


I was wrong. That was crazy talk. :eek:

redsmetz
06-05-2009, 11:05 PM
Pop up, game over.

Red in Chicago
06-05-2009, 11:05 PM
Productive strikeout.

:laugh:

reds44
06-05-2009, 11:05 PM
Just not enough offense.

Tom Servo
06-05-2009, 11:05 PM
Terrible.

Reds/Flyers Fan
06-05-2009, 11:06 PM
1 run.

1 freakin' run.

Again.

Kc61
06-05-2009, 11:06 PM
Makes it easy to watch the games. Nothing ever happens when the Reds hit, just need to watch when the opponents hit.

Falls City Beer
06-05-2009, 11:07 PM
Dickerson had a game only Freel could be proud of: dumb CS, great catch in center, dog-ugly night at the dish.

Hope it isn't a sign of a pattern.

Reds/Flyers Fan
06-05-2009, 11:09 PM
The Reds would like to thank the thousands of Cubs fans in attendance tonight and hope you enjoyed the game. See you tomorrow!

Red in Chicago
06-05-2009, 11:09 PM
well, at least i didn't end up having to witness that in person...glad i didn't make the game afterall...

Tony Cloninger
06-05-2009, 11:12 PM
He swung at a borderline strike .....more of a pitcher's pitch.

It's like 1 batter does it right....then the next is not watching and is just ready to hack.

Like in the 8th...Nix and Bruce did the same thing. More Nix then bruce though....and so did CD as well. You watch the other hitters....wait out the pitcher and then you think he is just going to groove one to you.

It's a pattern that happens from game to game..... different hitters each night.
It's amazing that they could look so impatient even with all the walks.

traderumor
06-05-2009, 11:25 PM
Tough draw for any team to face Carpenter and Zambrano back to back.

WVRedsFan
06-06-2009, 02:34 AM
Just not enough offense.

Understatement of the year.

I hate to say this (and I'm really embarrassed by saying it), but I don't watch much anymore. Yeah, I listen and follow and rejoice when they win and grieve when they lose, but watching this team try to score runs is simply too much for me. This team was based on pitching and defense and with the problems we've had with Volquez, Harang, and others this year, it hasn't worked out. I've always said that you must score runs to win regardless of what ace or another is on the mound for another team. This team can score on the worst of the teams, but has a real problem hen the going gets tough against good pitching. That's always the case when you depend on a lot of young guys and marginal offensive players.

It's a whole lot of the reason why .500 + 1 is a good goal unless Walt finds some offense and quits depending on the likes of Hairston, Dickerson, and Gonzalez to provide some offense. They can hit mistakes, but some pitchers don't serve up mistakes on silver platters. Besides Gonzo's .209 average, Dickerson's .241, and Hairston's .253, you got the all-world Bruce at .215 (with a .298 OBP--yuck) and Rosales, the star of AAA at .232. It's unreasonable to ask this team to score runs. Time to make a move, Walt. That is, unless you want to go 82-80. I think we're on track for that.

Ron Madden
06-06-2009, 06:41 AM
The Reds will probably score in double digits on Saturday.

:)

Red in Chicago
06-06-2009, 12:49 PM
The Reds will probably score in double digits on Saturday.

:)

I was thinking the exact opposite, in that former Red, Dumpster, will probably pitch a shutout.