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Big Klu
06-06-2009, 02:20 PM
55 years ago (1954), the Reds split a doubleheader at Crosley Field vs. the Giants--losing the opener 3-2, and winning the nightcap 3-2.

First Game
New York Giants
Whitey Lockman 1b
Alvin Dark ss
Hank Thompson 3b
Monte Irvin lf
Don Mueller rf
Willie Mays cf
Ray Katt c
Davey Williams 2b
Jim Hearn p

Cincinnati
Roy McMillan ss
Ed Harmon 3b
Gus Bell cf
Ted Kluszewski 1b
Bob Borkowski lf
Johnny Temple 2b
Wally Post rf
Ed Bailey c
Art Fowler p


WP: Marv Grissom (4-1)
LP: Frank Smith (1-1)
HR: NY - Monte Irvin (10).



Second Game
New York Giants
Whitey Lockman 1b
Alvin Dark ss
Hank Thompson 3b
Monte Irvin lf
Don Mueller rf
Willie Mays cf
Wes Westrum c
Davey Williams 2b
Don Liddle p

Cincinnati
Roy McMillan ss
Chuck Harmon 3b
Gus Bell cf
Ted Kluszewski 1b
Bob Borkowski lf
Johnny Temple 2b
Wally Post rf
Andy Seminick c
Fred Baczewski p


WP: Fred Baczewski (3-3)
LP: Don Liddle (0-2)
HR: None.

In Game 2, Fred Baczewski pitched a complete-game nine-hitter with 7 K's to get the win for the Reds. Don Liddle and Larry Jansen combined on a five-hitter in a losing effort for the Giants. Bob Borkowski's RBI single with one out in the bottom of the ninth inning scored Chuck Harmon with the winning run.

Big Klu
06-06-2009, 02:29 PM
50 years ago (1959), a 13-3 loss at Crosley Field vs. the Giants.

San Francisco
Jim Davenport 3b
Willie Kirkland rf
Willie Mays cf
Orlando Cepeda 1b
Leon Wagner lf
Daryl Spencer 2b
Andre Rodgers ss
Hobie Landrith c
Sam Jones p

Cincinnati
Johnny Temple 2b
Vada Pinson cf
Jerry Lynch lf
Frank Robinson 1b
Gus Bell rf
Ed Bailey c
Frank J. Thomas 3b
Roy McMillan ss
Bob Purkey p


WP: Sam Jones (6-5)
LP: Bob Purkey (5-7)
HR: SF - Leon Wagner (5).

Sam Jones pitched a complete-game eight-hitter with 7 K's to get the win for the Giants.

Big Klu
06-06-2009, 02:41 PM
45 years ago (1964), a 3-0 win at Crosley Field vs. the Cardinals.

St. Louis
Curt Flood cf
Dick Groat ss
Bill White 1b
Ken Boyer 3b
Charlie James lf
Tim McCarver c
Johnny Lewis rf
Jerry Buchek 2b
Ray Washburn p

Cincinnati
Pete Rose 2b
Tommy Harper lf
Vada Pinson cf
Gordy Coleman 1b
Frank Robinson rf
Leo Cardenas ss
Johnny Edwards c
Bobby Klaus 3b
John Tsitouris p


WP: John Tsitouris (2-3)
LP: Ray Washburn (2-3)
Sv: Sammy Ellis (1)
HR: None.

John Tsitouris and Sammy Ellis combined on a six-hit shutout with 9 K's for the Reds. Ellis struck out five in two innings to record the save. Ray Washburn and Ron Taylor combined on a four-hitter in a losing effort for the Cardinals. The only hits for the Reds were a one-out single by Tommy Harper in the first inning, a one-out RBI double by Gordy Coleman in the first, a one-out single by Johnny Edwards in the fourth, and a leadoff single by John Tsitouris in the fifth.

Big Klu
06-06-2009, 02:50 PM
40 years ago (1969), a 14-8 loss at Wrigley Field in Chicago.

Cincinnati
Pete Rose cf
Bobby Tolan rf
Alex Johnson lf
Tony Perez 3b
Lee May 1b
Johnny Bench c
Tommy Helms 2b
Darrel Chaney ss
Tony Cloninger p

Chicago Cubs
Don Kessinger ss
Glenn Beckert 2b
Billy Williams rf
Ron Santo 3b
Ernie Banks 1b
Willie Smith lf
Randy Hundley c
Don Young cf
Ken Holtzman p


WP: Ken Holtzman (9-1)
LP: Tony Cloninger (3-7)
Sv: Phil Regan (5)
HR: CIN - Johnny Bench (11). CHI - Ernie Banks (9), Billy Williams (6), Don Young (3).

Big Klu
06-06-2009, 02:58 PM
35 years ago (1974), a 4-3 loss at Shea Stadium in Queens.

Cincinnati
Pete Rose lf
Dave Concepcion ss
Johnny Bench 3b
Dan Driessen 1b
Terry Crowley rf
Cesar Geronimo cf
Hal King c
Darrel Chaney 2b
Roger Nelson p

New York Mets
Bud Harrelson ss
Felix Millan 2b
Cleon Jones lf
Rusty Staub rf
John Milner 1b
Dave Schneck cf
Wayne Garrett 3b
Jerry Grote c
Tom Seaver p


WP: Ray Sadecki (3-2)
LP: Pedro Borbon (4-3)
HR: NY - John Milner (9).

Big Klu
06-06-2009, 03:07 PM
30 years ago (1979), a 5-3 loss at Riverfront Stadium vs. the Mets.

New York Mets
Joel Youngblood 3b
Frank Taveras ss
Lee Mazzilli cf
Willie Montañez 1b
John Stearns c
Steve Henderson lf
Elliott Maddox rf
Doug Flynn 2b
Jesse Orosco p

Cincinnati
Ken Griffey rf
Junior Kennedy 2b
Dave Concepcion ss
George Foster lf
Dan Driessen 1b
Ray Knight 3b
Paul Blair cf
Vic Correll c
Bill Bonham p


WP: Dale Murray (3-5)
LP: Manny Sarmiento (0-2)
Sv: Ed Glynn (2)
HR: CIN - George Foster (11).

Big Klu
06-06-2009, 03:22 PM
25 years ago (1984), a 3-2 14-inning loss at Dodger Stadium in Los Angeles.

Cincinnati
Tom Lawless 2b
Eddie Milner cf
Gary Redus lf
Dave Parker rf
Dave Concepcion 1b
Nick Esasky 3b
Dann Bilardello c
Tom Foley ss
Mario Soto p

Los Angeles
Bob Bailor 2b
Terry Whitfield rf
Rick Monday 1b
Mike A. Marshall lf
Ken Landreaux cf
Pedro Guerrero 3b
Mike Scioscia c
Bill Russell ss
Rick Honeycutt p


WP: Pat Zachry (3-1)
LP: Tom Hume (3-5)
HR: CIN - Dave Parker (2). LA - Mike A. Marshall (10).

Dave Parker, who had been in a season-long home run slump, hit his second homer of the season in Game #56. With Dan Driessen and Cesar Cedeño both injured, and Tony Perez away from the club due to a family emergency, manager Vern Rapp turned to Dave Concepcion to make only his second career start at 1B.

Big Klu
06-06-2009, 03:39 PM
20 years ago (1989), the Reds split a doubleheader at Riverfront vs. the Giants--winning the opener 4-3, and losing the nightcap 3-2.

First Game
San Francisco
Brett Butler cf
Robby Thompson 2b
Will Clark 1b
Kevin Mitchell lf
Ernest Riles 3b
Candy Maldonado rf
Terry Kennedy c
Jose Uribe ss
Terry Mulholland p

Cincinnati
Chris Sabo 3b
Todd Benzinger 1b
Barry Larkin ss
Joel Youngblood lf
Rolando Roomes cf
Paul O'Neill rf
Bo Diaz c
Luis Quiñones 2b
Scott Scudder p


WP: John Franco (2-0)
LP: Mike LaCoss (2-4)
HR: SF - Kevin Mitchell (20).

In Game 1, right-hander Scott Scudder made his major-league debut for the Reds. Scudder, Rob Dibble, and John Franco combined on a five-hitter.



Second Game
San Francisco
Donell Nixon cf
Robby Thompson 2b
Will Clark 1b
Kevin Mitchell lf
Tracy Jones rf
Greg Litton 3b
Kirt Manwaring c
Jose Uribe ss
Rick Reuschel p

Cincinnati
Chris Sabo 3b
Ken Griffey 1b
Barry Larkin ss
Eric Davis cf
Paul O'Neill rf
Joel Youngblood lf
Jeff Reed c
Ron Oester 2b
Tom Browning p


WP: Rick Reuschel (11-2)
LP: Rob Dibble (4-2)
Sv: Craig Lefferts (10)
HR: SF - Kevin Mitchell 2 (22).

In Game 2, Rick Reuschel and Craig Lefferts combined on a six-hitter for the Giants. Tom Browning and Rob Dibble combined on a five-hitter in a losing effort for the Reds.

Big Klu
06-06-2009, 03:47 PM
10 years ago (1999), a 14-3 win at Kauffman Stadium in Kansas City.

Cincinnati
Pokey Reese 2b
Michael Tucker rf
Sean Casey 1b
Greg Vaughn dh
Barry Larkin ss
Eddie Taubensee c
Jeffrey Hammonds lf
Mike Cameron cf
Aaron Boone 3b

Pete Harnisch p

Kansas City
Carlos Febles 2b
Carlos Beltran cf
Johnny Damon lf
Mike Sweeney 1b
Jeremy Giambi dh
Jermaine Dye rf
Chad Kreuter c
Joe Randa 3b
Steve Scarsone ss

Jay Witasick p


WP: Scott Sullivan (3-0)
LP: Jay Witasick (1-5)
HR: CIN - Greg Vaughn (13).

Big Klu
06-06-2009, 03:57 PM
Five years ago (2004), a 6-5 win at Great American Ball Park vs. Les Expos.

Montreal
Brad Wilkerson lf
Endy Chavez cf
Jose Vidro 2b
Tony Batista 3b
Nick Johnson 1b
Orlando Cabrera ss
Juan Rivera rf
Brian Schneider c
Livan Hernandez p

Cincinnati
Ryan Freel rf
D'Angelo Jimenez 2b
Sean Casey 1b
Ken Griffey Jr. cf
Adam Dunn lf
Brandon Larson 3b
Jason LaRue c
Felipe Lopez ss
Todd Van Poppel p


WP: Mike Matthews (1-0)
LP: Rocky Biddle (0-4)
HR: CIN - Ken Griffey Jr. 2 (17), Jacob Cruz (1).

MrCinatit
06-06-2009, 04:30 PM
35 years ago (1974), a 4-3 loss at Shea Stadium in Queens.

Cincinnati
Pete Rose lf
Dave Concepcion ss
Johnny Bench 3b
Dan Driessen 1b
Terry Crowley rf
Cesar Geronimo cf
Hal King c
Darrel Chaney 2b
Roger Nelson p

New York Mets
Bud Harrelson ss
Felix Millan 2b
Cleon Jones lf
Rusty Staub rf
John Milner 1b
Dave Schneck cf
Wayne Garrett 3b
Jerry Grote c
Tom Seaver p


WP: Ray Sadecki (3-2)
LP: Pedro Borbon (4-3)
HR: NY - John Milner (9).



30 years ago (1979), a 5-3 loss at Riverfront Stadium vs. the Mets.

New York Mets
Joel Youngblood 3b
Frank Taveras ss
Lee Mazzilli cf
Willie Montañez 1b
John Stearns c
Steve Henderson lf
Elliott Maddox rf
Doug Flynn 2b
Jesse Orosco p

Cincinnati
Ken Griffey rf
Junior Kennedy 2b
Dave Concepcion ss
George Foster lf
Dan Driessen 1b
Ray Knight 3b
Paul Blair cf
Vic Correll c
Bill Bonham p


WP: Dale Murray (3-5)
LP: Manny Sarmiento (0-2)
Sv: Ed Glynn (2)
HR: CIN - George Foster (11).

What is really fascinating to me about these updates is looking at the pre-World Champion teams and the post World Champion teams.
The '75 and '76 lineups were dream lineups. Arguably, there was no more perfect lineups in the history of baseball.
The holes in the previous and later years can be somewhat painful. That 1974 lineup is quite interesting to say the least. I wonder if Sparky was trying to shake things up: Bench at 3rd? The lack of Perez and Morgan are glaring (I wonder if they were getting a rest that day, or if injuries were in the equation). The lack of Foster and Griffey are also rather glaring - though neither would become full-time starters until later.
That 1979 lineup is also somewhat painful. Kennedy instead of Morgan is a huge drop off. Knight was no Pete Rose. Driessen was no Tony Perez - he was Okay, but came nowhere near. I assume Correll and Blair were in there to give Bench and Geronimo a rest - but again, the absence is obvious.
But, all we have to do is look at the other teams' lineups to see we are a bit spoiled. In both 1974 and 1979, The Reds played the Mets. There are only players in both lineups both years (Concepcion and Driessen), but the Reds still had Bench, Foster, Griffey and Geronimo both years. The Mets...it appears they had no one. Consistency helped one team become the team of the 1970s, while the Mets were perennial basement dwellers by this time.

Big Klu
06-06-2009, 05:23 PM
What is really fascinating to me about these updates is looking at the pre-World Champion teams and the post World Champion teams.
The '75 and '76 lineups were dream lineups. Arguably, there was no more perfect lineups in the history of baseball.
The holes in the previous and later years can be somewhat painful. That 1974 lineup is quite interesting to say the least. I wonder if Sparky was trying to shake things up: Bench at 3rd? The lack of Perez and Morgan are glaring (I wonder if they were getting a rest that day, or if injuries were in the equation). The lack of Foster and Griffey are also rather glaring - though neither would become full-time starters until later.
That 1979 lineup is also somewhat painful. Kennedy instead of Morgan is a huge drop off. Knight was no Pete Rose. Driessen was no Tony Perez - he was Okay, but came nowhere near. I assume Correll and Blair were in there to give Bench and Geronimo a rest - but again, the absence is obvious.
But, all we have to do is look at the other teams' lineups to see we are a bit spoiled. In both 1974 and 1979, The Reds played the Mets. There are only players in both lineups both years (Concepcion and Driessen), but the Reds still had Bench, Foster, Griffey and Geronimo both years. The Mets...it appears they had no one. Consistency helped one team become the team of the 1970s, while the Mets were perennial basement dwellers by this time.

Both games were weekday afternoon games. (6/6/74 was a Thurday, and 6/6/79 was a Wednesday.) So that would explain why some regulars were sitting.

Perez and Morgan were usually in the lineup in 1974, as Driessen was the regular 3B that season. But RF was a revolving door, with Crowley, Rettenmund, Griffey, and Foster (who also was Geronimo's backup in CF). Griffey was actually at Indianapolis at the time, but would be recalled shortly.

In 1979, Bench was just getting a day off, but Morgan missed quite a bit of time with nagging injuries. Geronimo had really dropped off offensively, and was now in a straight platoon in CF with Blair, who got the start against the lefty Orosco. On the other hand, Driessen and Knight were solid performers. Knight had his best season of his career, hitting .318/.360/.454/.814 with 10 HR's and 79 RBI's while often hitting in the #6 or #7 spot in the order. Driessen was a steady, if unspectacular, player who toiled in the immense shadow of Tony Perez and the ghosts of the BRM.