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Red in Chicago
06-07-2009, 01:05 PM
Hairston 3b
Dickerson cf
Phillips 2b
Nix rf
Hernandez 1b
Gomes lf
Gonzalez ss
Hanigan c
Arroyo p

Soriano lf
Theriot ss
Fukudome rf
DLee 1b
Fontenot 3b
RJohnson cf
KHill c
A.Blanco 2b
RWells p

nate
06-07-2009, 02:08 PM
Chat is open!

jojo
06-07-2009, 02:12 PM
Lets get Arroyo through the first two and i'll feel pretty good about this one.

jojo
06-07-2009, 02:13 PM
Hopefully a lucky swing from Theriot.

Raisor
06-07-2009, 02:13 PM
The Riot goes all Attica on Bronson.

nate
06-07-2009, 02:13 PM
You jinxed him!

Red in Chicago
06-07-2009, 02:14 PM
more first inning woes for the reds...
more day time game woes for arroyo...

mth123
06-07-2009, 02:19 PM
Dead thread. Arroyo gets a couple ground outs after the homer. 1-0 Cubs with the Reds coming up.

mth123
06-07-2009, 02:20 PM
Hairston lines out to LF.

mth123
06-07-2009, 02:21 PM
Dickerson GO to 2B. He was robbed.

mth123
06-07-2009, 02:23 PM
Phillips Walks.

mth123
06-07-2009, 02:25 PM
Nix K's.

Big Klu
06-07-2009, 02:27 PM
First inning thoughts:

(1) I didn't think Theriot got all of that ball he hit out. The ball might fly at GABP today.

(2) I thought the Cubs buzzed Phillips high and tight with a purpose. Maybe in retaliation for his comments Friday night?

mth123
06-07-2009, 02:30 PM
First inning thoughts:

(1) I didn't think Theriot got all of that ball he hit out. The ball might fly at GABP today.

(2) I thought the Cubs buzzed Phillips high and tight with a purpose. Maybe in retaliation for his comments Friday night?

I thought Theriot's ball was a pop up.

Fontenot lines to Phillps. 1 Out.

mth123
06-07-2009, 02:31 PM
Johnson K's.

mth123
06-07-2009, 02:32 PM
Hill grounds to Phillips. Good Inning.

mth123
06-07-2009, 02:33 PM
I'm predicting a Johnny Gomes HR this inning to wake us all up.

mth123
06-07-2009, 02:37 PM
Hernandez with a clean hit to LF.

Tom Servo
06-07-2009, 02:37 PM
Razor Ramon stays hot with a single.

redsfaninbsg
06-07-2009, 02:38 PM
Swinging bunt, I'll take it.

Tom Servo
06-07-2009, 02:38 PM
I'm predicting a Johnny Gomes HR this inning to wake us all up.
Not quite, but he got on base. :thumbup:

mth123
06-07-2009, 02:38 PM
Gomes with a 15 foot putt for a single. First and second.

nate
06-07-2009, 02:38 PM
Gomes just missed that HR shot, mth!

:cool:

mth123
06-07-2009, 02:39 PM
Gonzalez could be a TP waiting to happen here.

mth123
06-07-2009, 02:39 PM
Gomes just missed that HR shot, mth!

:cool:

It least it got some of you guys to chime in.;)

Tom Servo
06-07-2009, 02:41 PM
A-Gon also with the swinging bunt, but it's a sacrifice.

redsfaninbsg
06-07-2009, 02:41 PM
Reds need to tie this game up here.

mth123
06-07-2009, 02:41 PM
Gonzalez rolls one to the right side. Runners on 2B and 3B with one out.

mth123
06-07-2009, 02:42 PM
Hanigan is the guy I most want up in this situation with Votto out.

Big Klu
06-07-2009, 02:43 PM
I thought Theriot's ball was a pop up.

I thought the same thing.

CrackerJack
06-07-2009, 02:44 PM
I guess Bruce will be sitting next to Dusty all afternoon...per Dusty's comments pre-game.

Tom Servo
06-07-2009, 02:44 PM
Interesting play there, but it worked.

mth123
06-07-2009, 02:44 PM
Hanigan Grounds to SS. RBI. Gomes holds 2B.

Big Klu
06-07-2009, 02:45 PM
Heads-up baserunning by Gomes, as Ramon scored on Hanigan's GO.

mth123
06-07-2009, 02:46 PM
Arroyo K's. 1-1.

RedsManRick
06-07-2009, 02:46 PM
Why did Gomes run back to 2nd? The ball was hit on the ground behind him; isn't it standard to advance to 3rd on that?

jojo
06-07-2009, 02:46 PM
Reds tie it. My daughter just asked me if the Reds are playing women's softball....

mth123
06-07-2009, 02:47 PM
Why did Gomes run back to 2nd? The ball was hit on the ground behind him; isn't it standard to advance to 3rd on that?

I was thinking the same, but he'd have probably been out.

jojo
06-07-2009, 02:47 PM
Why did Gomes run back to 2nd? The ball was hit on the ground behind him; isn't it standard to advance to 3rd on that?

He would've been toast at third on that one.

nate
06-07-2009, 02:47 PM
Reds tie it. My daughter just asked me if the Reds are playing women's softball....

What did you say?

Big Klu
06-07-2009, 02:48 PM
I guess Bruce will be sitting next to Dusty all afternoon...per Dusty's comments pre-game.

Bruce could learn a lot from Dusty--remember, Baker was a young, ultra-talented OF when he first came up with the Braves. So he knows about the growing pains that Bruce is going through.

jojo
06-07-2009, 02:48 PM
What did you say?

She said, it, I didn't. But really...K,K nub,nub, grounder scores a run....

mth123
06-07-2009, 02:48 PM
Reds tie it. My daughter just asked me if the Reds are playing women's softball....

Arroyo is no Jennie Finch.

mth123
06-07-2009, 02:49 PM
Bruce could learn a lot from Dusty--remember, Baker was a young, ultra-talented OF when he first came up with the Braves. So he knows about the growing pains that Bruce is going through.

Dusty: When I was young Hank Aaron told me...

Bruce: Who is Hank Aaron?

mth123
06-07-2009, 02:50 PM
Lead-off single. Wells is up to bunt and swings away for a single.

Falls City Beer
06-07-2009, 02:51 PM
Lead-off single. Wells is up to bunt and swings away for a single.

Bottom of the order once again killing the Reds.

mth123
06-07-2009, 02:51 PM
Soriano up with runners on first and second and none out. Need a K here.

Falls City Beer
06-07-2009, 02:52 PM
Some crooked numbers going up this inning. Arroyo thinking about guitars and quik tan, not the hitters. :)

jojo
06-07-2009, 02:52 PM
Arroyo is no Jennie Finch.

I bet he spends more time on his hair....

mth123
06-07-2009, 02:52 PM
Grounder to Arroyo who throws is wildly bases loaded. Phillips saved him.

mth123
06-07-2009, 02:52 PM
I bet he spends more time on his hair....

LMAO.

jojo
06-07-2009, 02:53 PM
Hairston lives a life of luxury but I bet when Wells swung on the bunt charge, Hairston thought to himself that he isn't paid enough...

redsfaninbsg
06-07-2009, 02:53 PM
When you are offensively challenged like the Reds you can't make plays like that in the field.

mth123
06-07-2009, 02:53 PM
The Riot with the bases loaded. Dinks and Dunks evening out here.

BCubb2003
06-07-2009, 02:53 PM
Arroyo's sidearm curve doesn't work on the throw to second. Should have called for the fastball.

mth123
06-07-2009, 02:55 PM
Theriot K's. Big out.

redsfaninbsg
06-07-2009, 02:55 PM
Huge K.

Falls City Beer
06-07-2009, 02:56 PM
****-You-Dome not prone to the K. And a lefty. :(

redsfaninbsg
06-07-2009, 02:56 PM
Pop out to Gomes, no advance. One out away from getting out of this.

mth123
06-07-2009, 02:56 PM
Fukudome Pops to Gomes.

Tom Servo
06-07-2009, 02:57 PM
I like how Bronson gets my hope up by getting the 2 outs, and THEN gives up the 2 run single.

redsfaninbsg
06-07-2009, 02:57 PM
Base hit by Lee, 3-1 Cubs. Arroyo's own fault here.

CTA513
06-07-2009, 02:57 PM
Cubs take advantage of the extra out.

3-1 Cubs

mth123
06-07-2009, 02:57 PM
Lee singles in 2. Dog gone it.

jojo
06-07-2009, 02:58 PM
That's frustrating. Arroyo pitched Theriot so well and then gave Lee a meat ball.

redsfaninbsg
06-07-2009, 02:59 PM
Another base hit, bases juiced now.

mth123
06-07-2009, 02:59 PM
Fontenot singles. Loaded again. Still 3-1.

Falls City Beer
06-07-2009, 03:00 PM
I like how Bronson gets my hope up by getting the 2 outs, and THEN gives up the 2 run single.

He only Ks a couple of guys a game anymore. He still surrenders a lot of flyballs. Not going to produce a lengthy series of good starts.

mth123
06-07-2009, 03:00 PM
That's frustrating. Arroyo pitched Theriot so well and then gave Lee a meat ball.

Looks tired.

jojo
06-07-2009, 03:00 PM
Hat tip to the PA announcer letting all of the Cubs fans in attendance know that Lee's hit snapped an 0 for 21 streak with RISP for the Cubbies... I think he repeated himself three times....

mth123
06-07-2009, 03:01 PM
Johnson pops to Hairston. 3-1.

CTA513
06-07-2009, 03:02 PM
Arroyos error made sure his ERA didn't take a hit that inning.

BCubb2003
06-07-2009, 03:03 PM
Arroyos error made sure his ERA didn't take a hit that inning.

Now that takes forethought.

mth123
06-07-2009, 03:04 PM
Hairston K's.

Red in Chicago
06-07-2009, 03:04 PM
JHJ complains more than anyone

mth123
06-07-2009, 03:05 PM
Dickerson Grounds to Theriot.

mth123
06-07-2009, 03:06 PM
JHJ complains more than anyone

Roid Rage

mth123
06-07-2009, 03:06 PM
Phillips singles.

mth123
06-07-2009, 03:08 PM
Nix lines out.

mth123
06-07-2009, 03:08 PM
The Reds seem to be hitting balls hard off this guy. Hopefully they start falling.

Falls City Beer
06-07-2009, 03:09 PM
How do the Cubs have this seemingly inexhaustible supply of at least decent young starters?

Falls City Beer
06-07-2009, 03:10 PM
The Reds seem to be hitting balls hard off this guy. Hopefully they start falling.

They're still swinging at *his* pitches.

mth123
06-07-2009, 03:12 PM
Hill walks. Get somebody up.

Tom Servo
06-07-2009, 03:13 PM
Hill walks. Get somebody up.
Agreed. Bronson isn't pitching as much as he is just throwing the ball.

Falls City Beer
06-07-2009, 03:13 PM
Hill walks. Get somebody up.

If you can't retire Hill, Blanco, and pitcher, then maybe you shouldn't have gotten the start in the first place.

Tom Servo
06-07-2009, 03:13 PM
Someone tell Chris Buckley the camera isn't on the floor.

mth123
06-07-2009, 03:14 PM
Fly out, 1 out.

mth123
06-07-2009, 03:14 PM
Bunt to Arroyo and he makes the play. 2 out.

mth123
06-07-2009, 03:16 PM
GO 6-3. Arroyo still seems tired though.

mth123
06-07-2009, 03:20 PM
Hernandez with a pop to second.

reds44
06-07-2009, 03:24 PM
This is no fun to watch.

mth123
06-07-2009, 03:27 PM
Theriot walks. Fukudome flies to Nix.

mth123
06-07-2009, 03:29 PM
Lee breaks hit bat into a FC 5-4.

Tom Servo
06-07-2009, 03:31 PM
I do not want to hear about George Grande's one iron.

mth123
06-07-2009, 03:32 PM
Fontenot grounds back to the mound. Arroyo handles it without incident. Side retired.

mth123
06-07-2009, 03:33 PM
I do not want to hear about George Grande's one iron.

The mute button is one of life's greatest inventions.

Wish it worked on my wife.

Tom Servo
06-07-2009, 03:35 PM
Bronson with a hit.



And for those wondering, Marty does have his shirt on. It's bright yellow.

mth123
06-07-2009, 03:37 PM
Hairston pops up to Theriot. 2 outs.

mth123
06-07-2009, 03:38 PM
Dickerson doubles. second and third.

Tom Servo
06-07-2009, 03:39 PM
Plz get a hit here BP k thx

mth123
06-07-2009, 03:39 PM
Phillips with a chance to tie it.

Tom Servo
06-07-2009, 03:41 PM
Argh. Nice play by Lee.

mth123
06-07-2009, 03:41 PM
Phillips grounds to 3B.

Tom Servo
06-07-2009, 03:49 PM
1-2-3 inning for Bronson.

mth123
06-07-2009, 03:52 PM
Nix FO to LF

mth123
06-07-2009, 03:54 PM
Hernandez flies out.

mth123
06-07-2009, 03:55 PM
Gomes flies out.

Tom Servo
06-07-2009, 03:55 PM
1-2-3 inning for Wells.


This game is just super exciting.

mth123
06-07-2009, 03:56 PM
This may be the most boring game ever.

CTA513
06-07-2009, 03:56 PM
Looks like Wells will have a chance for a complete game unless the Reds can either find some offense or run up his pitch count.

WVRedsFan
06-07-2009, 03:56 PM
1-2-3 inning for Wells.


This game is just super exciting.

Don't you know that pitching and defense wins championships? Where have you been? We don't need no offense no way no how!

mth123
06-07-2009, 03:59 PM
Soriano flies to Nix. 2 Outs. Theriot up.

mth123
06-07-2009, 04:00 PM
Flies to Dickerson. 3 outs.

reds44
06-07-2009, 04:03 PM
My eyes are bleeding.

reds44
06-07-2009, 04:04 PM
Lovely swing from our SS.

mth123
06-07-2009, 04:04 PM
Gonzalez GO to SS.

mth123
06-07-2009, 04:06 PM
Hanigan with a single

mth123
06-07-2009, 04:06 PM
Bruce to hit.

reds44
06-07-2009, 04:07 PM
Come on Jay.

reds44
06-07-2009, 04:07 PM
Bruuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuce

for the love of god get these runs in

CrackerJack
06-07-2009, 04:07 PM
A little bench perspective with the Duster must've helped Bruce....

Tom Servo
06-07-2009, 04:07 PM
BRUUUUUUCE

mth123
06-07-2009, 04:07 PM
Bruce hustling double. 2nd and 3rd. 1 Out.

Red in Chicago
06-07-2009, 04:08 PM
soriano continues to struggle out in left...should have kept bruce to just a single...thanks.

mth123
06-07-2009, 04:08 PM
Hairston needs to make contact here.

reds44
06-07-2009, 04:08 PM
Hairston is just, ugh.

WVRedsFan
06-07-2009, 04:09 PM
My eyes are bleeding.

After all the cheers from the Cubs fans when they did dang near anything, I quit watching. It's torture to watch this team at bat anyway and I didn't need to get all fired up about anything, so I'm just not watching.

I should have gone to Pocono Friday like I had planned. Sometimes I amaze myself.

Tom Servo
06-07-2009, 04:10 PM
Hairston sac fly. 3-2 game.

Big Klu
06-07-2009, 04:10 PM
Sac fly for Jerry!

reds44
06-07-2009, 04:10 PM
Alright, sac fly.

3-2

mth123
06-07-2009, 04:10 PM
Hairston flies to RF Hanigan scores and Bruce to 3B. Dickerson with a chance to tie it.

BCubb2003
06-07-2009, 04:11 PM
I heard Pujols had a two-run sac fly today, because that's just how he is.

Kc61
06-07-2009, 04:12 PM
Lefty in to pitch to Dickerson with man on third and two out.

I would let Rosales hit for Dickerson. Move Hairston to CF. Play Rosales at third base.

I'm sure Dusty will not do this and will let Dickerson hit. I hope he comes through against the lefty.

Way Reds offense is going I would want to have the percentages on my side with a man on third in a close game.

Big Klu
06-07-2009, 04:12 PM
With the Cubs bringing in a lefty, would you PH for Dickerson? I don't think I would, but it's a valid question.

redsfaninbsg
06-07-2009, 04:13 PM
Wonder if Bruce will stay in the game on a double switch?

mth123
06-07-2009, 04:14 PM
Lefty in to pitch to Dickerson with man on third and two out.

I would let Rosales hit for Dickerson. Move Hairston to CF. Play Rosales at third base.

I'm sure Dusty will not do this and will let Dickerson hit. I hope he comes through against the lefty.

Way Reds offense is going I would want to have the percentages on my side with a man on third in a close game.

I'd hit for him. I'd just leave Bruce in to play CF.

Tom Servo
06-07-2009, 04:14 PM
Wonder if Bruce will stay in the game on a double switch?
I'd pull Nix and keep Bruce in.

Red in Chicago
06-07-2009, 04:14 PM
how about a nice wild pitch or passed ball

Big Klu
06-07-2009, 04:14 PM
Wonder if Bruce will stay in the game on a double switch?

Another valid question. Nix could move to CF, with Bruce taking over in RF.

mth123
06-07-2009, 04:15 PM
Dickerson with an exciting 3 footer grounds out.

Tom Servo
06-07-2009, 04:16 PM
We really need a right handed pinch hitter.

reds44
06-07-2009, 04:16 PM
That was close.

Red in Chicago
06-07-2009, 04:16 PM
this isn't over, as long as the possibility of gregg coming in for a save opportunity exists...

mth123
06-07-2009, 04:18 PM
We really need a right handed pinch hitter.

and a LH one.

mth123
06-07-2009, 04:18 PM
Fukudome GO to SS.

Kc61
06-07-2009, 04:19 PM
We really need a right handed pinch hitter.

Reds have one. Jonny Gomes. He just started today because of Bruce's need for tutoring from the manager.

And there was Rosales available to pinch hit. And Owings was available.

Dusty just chose to keep Dickerson in there, a decision which is difficult to understand when you analyze it.

Big Klu
06-07-2009, 04:19 PM
We really need a right handed pinch hitter.

With only a four-man bench and Bruce already being used, it is doubtful that Dickerson would be lifted for a PH. (Unless you use Owings, and leave Bruce in the game as part of a double switch.)

mth123
06-07-2009, 04:20 PM
With only a four-man bench and Bruce already being used, it is doubtful that Dickerson would be lifted for a PH. (Unless you use Owings, and leave Bruce in the game as part of a double switch.)

That was the right play, but I'd forgotten about Owings. Bored to submission I guess.

mth123
06-07-2009, 04:20 PM
Hairston with an EdE impression.

reds44
06-07-2009, 04:20 PM
God Hairston is awful.

Tom Servo
06-07-2009, 04:22 PM
Reds have one. Jonny Gomes. He just started today because of Bruce's need for tutoring from the manager.

And there was Rosales available to pinch hit. And Owings was available.

Dusty just chose to keep Dickerson in there, a decision which is difficult to understand when you analyze it.
While I generally like them, Gomes, Rosales, and Owings are not my ideal pinch hitters.


I'm really not trying to criticize the Dickerson at-bat. I probably would have left him in too.

mth123
06-07-2009, 04:23 PM
Fontenot K's. 2 outs.

Brutus
06-07-2009, 04:23 PM
God Hairston is awful.

Hmm. I'm not sure I've seen the same Hairston. He's made some mistakes, but he's been pretty good this year defensively on the whole.

Tom Servo
06-07-2009, 04:23 PM
All hail King Arthur!

reds44
06-07-2009, 04:24 PM
Hmm. I'm not sure I've seen the same Hairston. He's made some mistakes, but he's been pretty good this year defensively on the whole.
At 3rd base? He's been beyond awful. That's his 3rd error in the last 2 games.

Kc61
06-07-2009, 04:24 PM
With only a four-man bench and Bruce already being used, it is doubtful that Dickerson would be lifted for a PH. (Unless you use Owings, and leave Bruce in the game as part of a double switch.)


Guess I don't understand why the length of the bench matters when you are down a run, man on third, and have a lefty pitcher in there in the late innings. Seemed like a pretty key spot to me and Reds had Owings and Rosales both available.

I usually see some decent reasoning for Dusty's moves or nonmoves. Not that time.

reds44
06-07-2009, 04:25 PM
I don't like Rhodes vs. Johnson. He mashes lefties.

reds44
06-07-2009, 04:25 PM
I don't like Rhodes vs. Johnson. He mashes lefties.
That's why I'm not the manager.

mth123
06-07-2009, 04:26 PM
Reed Johnson GO 4-3. Reds need runs now. Phillips, Nix, Hernandez, Gomes coming up.

Big Klu
06-07-2009, 04:26 PM
That was the right play, but I'd forgotten about Owings. Bored to submission I guess.


Guess I don't understand why the length of the bench matters when you are down a run, man on third, and have a lefty pitcher in there in the late innings. Seemed like a pretty key spot to me and Reds had Owings and Rosales both available.

I usually see some decent reasoning for Dusty's moves or nonmoves. Not that time.



It's called economy of the bench. We RedsZoners used to complain loud and long when Jerry Narron burned through his bench like General Sheridan through the Shenandoah Valley.

Brutus
06-07-2009, 04:27 PM
At 3rd base? He's been beyond awful. That's his 3rd error in the last 2 games.

Two games is not indicative of an entire season. He's been flashing some pretty good leather all year long. Sure, he's made a few errors recently, but to call him awful is to ignore the numerous plays he's made all year long that saved runs, saved innings and in some cases, saved games. He's brought more to the team defensively this year, in my judgment, than he's cost them.

Kc61
06-07-2009, 04:27 PM
At 3rd base? He's been beyond awful. That's his 3rd error in the last 2 games.

Hairston doesn't have the arm for third base or shortstop. He's sure handed and has good range. He tried to force that throw and made a bad one.

mth123
06-07-2009, 04:28 PM
Guess I don't understand why the length of the bench matters when you are down a run, man on third, and have a lefty pitcher in there in the late innings. Seemed like a pretty key spot to me and Reds had Owings and Rosales both available.

I usually see some decent reasoning for Dusty's moves or nonmoves. Not that time.

Agree KC. Dickerson against a lefty is not good.

mth123
06-07-2009, 04:29 PM
Phillips looks fooled up there by Marmol.

reds44
06-07-2009, 04:30 PM
Beautiful AB by Phillips.

mth123
06-07-2009, 04:31 PM
Phillips walks.

RedsManRick
06-07-2009, 04:31 PM
Great PA by Phillips there.

Brutus
06-07-2009, 04:31 PM
He managed to lay off two consecutive sliders outside. Great job by Phillips.

Red in Chicago
06-07-2009, 04:31 PM
nix is overdue...be patient

reds44
06-07-2009, 04:31 PM
Don't help him out Laynce.

Kc61
06-07-2009, 04:32 PM
It's called economy of the bench. We RedsZoners used to complain loud and long when Jerry Narron burned through his bench like General Sheridan through the Shenandoah Valley.

Narron overused his relievers, which Dusty doesn't, a different problem.

Economy is fine, but giving away run opportunities close and late is not fine.

Lead off hitter, Phillips, gets on, maybe Reds will do something here. Marmol having some control problems.

Tom Servo
06-07-2009, 04:32 PM
Marmol must pitch everyday against the Reds, apparently.

mth123
06-07-2009, 04:32 PM
Great PA by Phillips there.

Yeah. He started off shaky but just let Marmol walk him. Now Marmol is 2-0 on Nix.

Big Klu
06-07-2009, 04:32 PM
Agree KC. Dickerson against a lefty is not good.

I agree that Dickerson is not the optimal choice in that situation. But with Bruce already used, I doubt that Dusty wanted to use another position player (Rosales) at that point in the game, and though he has no qualms about using Owings as a PH for the pitcher, I question whether he is willing to use Micah to PH for a position player (though he would have been my choice in that situation as a righty pinch-hitter).

reds44
06-07-2009, 04:33 PM
Marmol pitches everyday against everybody.

mth123
06-07-2009, 04:33 PM
Nix walks.

reds44
06-07-2009, 04:33 PM
Gregg for 6 outs?

We better win this.

mth123
06-07-2009, 04:33 PM
Marmol coming out of the game.

reds44
06-07-2009, 04:33 PM
Nevermind, it's Heilman.

Brutus
06-07-2009, 04:34 PM
Nix waylks.

fixed.

Red in Chicago
06-07-2009, 04:34 PM
and with those two walks, marmol now at 27 bb's in 27 innings...yikes...

mth123
06-07-2009, 04:35 PM
I agree that Dickerson is not the optimal choice in that situation. But with Bruce already used, I doubt that Dusty wanted to use another position player (Rosales) at that point in the game, and though he has no qualms about using Owings as a PH for the pitcher, I question whether he is willing to use Micah to PH for a position player.

I think he didn't use Owings for exactly that reason. Its still the wrong play. Owings hits, Bruce plays CF or RF with Nix in CF. It was a game situation.

Big Klu
06-07-2009, 04:36 PM
I think he didn't use Owings for exactly that reason. Its still the wrong play. Owings hits, Bruce plays CF or RF with Nix in CF. It was a game situation.

I agree with you.

reds44
06-07-2009, 04:36 PM
lol wtf was Heilman doing?

redsmetz
06-07-2009, 04:36 PM
Bunt by Hernandez, sacks jammed.

Red in Chicago
06-07-2009, 04:37 PM
PHILLIPS!!!! Safe at third

Tom Servo
06-07-2009, 04:37 PM
bases jacked!

reds44
06-07-2009, 04:37 PM
He looked out, does Phillips not know how to slide?

mth123
06-07-2009, 04:38 PM
Hernandez bunts and the cubs bail the reds out and try to get Phillips at 3B, Everybody safe. Lou is going nuts.

Big Klu
06-07-2009, 04:38 PM
Brandon was out IMO, but we'll take it!

mth123
06-07-2009, 04:38 PM
Gomes with the bases loaded and no outs.

redsmetz
06-07-2009, 04:39 PM
Long fly ball, everybody moves up - great sacrifice by Gomes.

Tom Servo
06-07-2009, 04:39 PM
Sac fly by Gomes. Everybody moves up. Well done, Jonny.

Big Klu
06-07-2009, 04:39 PM
Sac fly for Gomes! WTG Jonny!

BTW, the only other Jonny I can think of who spells it like that is this guy:

http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/f/f7/Jonny-quest-logo.jpg

Reds Fanatic
06-07-2009, 04:39 PM
Great hustle. Everyone advances on the sac fly.

mth123
06-07-2009, 04:39 PM
Gomes flies to CF. Everybody moves up. Game tied runners on 2B and 3B. 1 out. I'd PH here.

Kc61
06-07-2009, 04:39 PM
Gomes sac fly and all three Reds runners move up. Just outstanding base running by Reds, who do everything well but hit.

Tom Servo
06-07-2009, 04:40 PM
Walking A-Gon to bring up Hanigan? What is Lou smoking?

redsmetz
06-07-2009, 04:40 PM
IBB to Gonzo to load them back up for Hannigan. Thom says Hannigan's numbers haven't been great with RISP. Marty says .154 BA in such situations.

Mario-Rijo
06-07-2009, 04:40 PM
Walking A-Gon to bring up Hanigan? What is Lou smoking?

:beerme:

mth123
06-07-2009, 04:40 PM
The Cubs help us again by walking Gonzalez. I like Hanigan in this situation.

NC Reds
06-07-2009, 04:40 PM
I know the logic of loading the bases here, but I would never walk Gonzalez intentionally. He's poor.

reds44
06-07-2009, 04:41 PM
You have to load the bases here. It was the right move.

redsmetz
06-07-2009, 04:41 PM
Willy alert! Tavaras moves into the on deck circle. Let the bedlam begin.

reds44
06-07-2009, 04:42 PM
Ryan was trying to make it 7-3...

reds44
06-07-2009, 04:43 PM
And he swings at ball 3.

Tom Servo
06-07-2009, 04:43 PM
Willy T to pinch hit if the inning continues.

Great.

Big Klu
06-07-2009, 04:43 PM
Willy alert! Tavaras moves into the on deck circle. Let the bedlam begin.

I would go with Owings for the pitcher.

mth123
06-07-2009, 04:43 PM
Hanigan swung at ball 3 there IMO.

Tom Servo
06-07-2009, 04:44 PM
Shucks.

reds44
06-07-2009, 04:44 PM
That was an awful at bat. Just terrible.

mth123
06-07-2009, 04:44 PM
Hanigan K's. I jinxed him.

redsmetz
06-07-2009, 04:44 PM
Hanigan K's, Tavaras up.

Red in Chicago
06-07-2009, 04:44 PM
seriously, taveras???

reds44
06-07-2009, 04:44 PM
Heilman has thrown 1 strike so far.

Big Klu
06-07-2009, 04:44 PM
If the Reds had made the double switch last inning, this would be Jay Bruce right now.

mth123
06-07-2009, 04:44 PM
That was an awful at bat. Just terrible.

Yeah. He looked over anxious. It gets worse. Here's Willy.

reds44
06-07-2009, 04:45 PM
I would have used Owings.

Mario-Rijo
06-07-2009, 04:45 PM
Hanigan K's. I jinxed him.

He does seem to press with ducks on the pond for whatever reason. He's Jekyl and Hyde if there ever was one.

Tom Servo
06-07-2009, 04:45 PM
Arghhhhhhhhhhhh.

redsmetz
06-07-2009, 04:46 PM
Tavaras out 1-3, score tied at 3 all.

reds44
06-07-2009, 04:46 PM
Bad.

mth123
06-07-2009, 04:46 PM
Willy with a dribbler. Wasted opportunity. At least its tied.

RFS62
06-07-2009, 04:47 PM
Wow.

Nice rip, Willy

Red in Chicago
06-07-2009, 04:48 PM
taveras was slumping before he was sidelined. hasn't seen live pitching for several days...dusty brings him up in a clutch situation...we all knew the outcome

MrCinatit
06-07-2009, 04:48 PM
A couple of those strike calls to Taveris looked like they would have been low to Eddie Gaedel.

Big Klu
06-07-2009, 04:48 PM
Interesting double switch.

Taveras stays in the game in CF, batting ninth.
Dickerson moves from CF to RF.
Nix moves from RF to LF.
Gomes out of the game.
Herrera now pitching, batting sixth.

reds44
06-07-2009, 04:48 PM
Taveras stays in the game.

mth123
06-07-2009, 04:49 PM
Why double switch to bring the pitcher up 4 spots sooner????

Kc61
06-07-2009, 04:50 PM
Just to second guess the GM for a change, if the Reds still had Castillo, who can hit lefty, instead of thirteen pitchers, they would have been much better off there.

I really don't understand the decision to keep both Burton and Fisher. They say it's because of the DH games coming up, but even in DH games you need a bench.

redsfaninbsg
06-07-2009, 04:50 PM
I have no clue whats going on, can't say that I agree with Dusty's managerial decisions today.

mth123
06-07-2009, 04:50 PM
Every time Willy Taveras plays, I feel cheated by the front office. He's a horrible player all around. ughh!

reds44
06-07-2009, 04:51 PM
Lead off walk.

Fantastic.

mth123
06-07-2009, 04:52 PM
Bunt. 1 out. runner on second. Soto to PH.

Kc61
06-07-2009, 04:53 PM
Guess I also didn't understand Herrera here. Previously, in home games, Dusty has used Cordero in this spot. No save is possible in this game for the Reds, so use Cordero in the top of the ninth.

Why different this time? Not as if there are tons of lefties in the Cubs lineup.

So now, Herrera gives up a walk and a sacrifice and now Dusty makes the move presumably to Cordero. And this isn't the situation where Cordero excels, coming in with a man on second in a tie game.

Not very happy with the Reds roster or some of the decisions today.

It's Weathers, not Cordero.

Big Klu
06-07-2009, 04:55 PM
Guess I also didn't understand Herrera here. Previously, in home games, Dusty has used Cordero in this spot. No save is possible in this game for the Reds, so use Cordero in the top of the ninth.

Why different this time? Not as if there are tons of lefties in the Cubs lineup.

So now, Herrera gives up a walk and a sacrifice and now Dusty makes the move presumably to Cordero. And this isn't the situation where Cordero excels, coming in with a man on second in a tie game.

Not very happy with the Reds roster or some of the decisions today.

Nope, Weathers.

redsfaninbsg
06-07-2009, 04:55 PM
Weathers?

reds44
06-07-2009, 04:55 PM
Guess I also didn't understand Herrera here. Previously, in home games, Dusty has used Cordero in this spot. No save is possible in this game for the Reds, so use Cordero in the top of the ninth.

Why different this time? Not as if there are tons of lefties in the Cubs lineup.

So now, Herrera gives up a walk and a sacrifice and now Dusty makes the move presumably to Cordero. And this isn't the situation where Cordero excels, coming in with a man on second in a tie game.

Not very happy with the Reds roster or some of the decisions today.
Cordero was used the last 2 days.

mth123
06-07-2009, 04:56 PM
Guess I also don't understand Herrera here. Previously, in home games, Dusty has used Cordero in this spot. No save is possible in this game for the Reds, so use Cordero in the top of the ninth.

Why different this time? Not as if there are tons of lefties in the Cubs lineup.

So now, Herrera gives up a walk and a sacrifice and now Dusty makes the move presumably to Cordero.

Not very happy with the Reds roster or some of the decisions today.

Two game situations today and dusty makes the wrong move both times. He makes a curious double switch to get his worst player in the line-up and move the pitcher's spot up 4 spots. Now he wastes a pitcher late in a tie game.

mth123
06-07-2009, 04:57 PM
GO to SS. Two outs, runner on 3B.

redsfaninbsg
06-07-2009, 04:57 PM
Is it me or does Weathers seem to just me more than anybody else in baseball?

Brutus
06-07-2009, 04:57 PM
Two game situations today and dusty makes the wrong move both times. He makes a curious double switch to get his worst player in the line-up and move the pitcher's spot up 4 spots. Now he wastes a pitcher late in a tie game.

I agree about the double-switch. I don't get that one at all. I don't think the Herrera-Weathers thing is a poor decision though.

Tom Servo
06-07-2009, 04:57 PM
Okay, those numbers aren't even close.

mth123
06-07-2009, 04:58 PM
Is it me or does Weathers seem to just me more than anybody else in baseball?

huh?? It must be you.

redsfaninbsg
06-07-2009, 04:58 PM
huh?? It must be you.

Oops, just miss more than anybody else in baseball.

Tony Cloninger
06-07-2009, 04:59 PM
The Hannigan AB speaks of the whole team...with the exception of Votto....in regards to not being able to handle AB with men on base. Hannigan has a great eye...but then looked like AG up there in the last 2 pitches.

Cannot do anything about young players who cannot handle the pressure of that situation.

Kc61
06-07-2009, 05:00 PM
Two game situations today and dusty makes the wrong move both times. He makes a curious double switch to get his worst player in the line-up and move the pitcher's spot up 4 spots. Now he wastes a pitcher late in a tie game.

Leaving Dickerson to hit against the lefty in the seventh was the worst move.

Not that worried about wasting pitchers. The team has thirteen pitchers and an off day tomorrow, presumably they can get through this game. I wouldn't have used Herrera there, but not that worried about wasting him.

mth123
06-07-2009, 05:00 PM
I agree about the double-switch. I don't get that one at all. I don't think the Herrera-Weathers thing is a poor decision though.

Not sure I understand the need to use 2 pitchers this inning. Who was Herrera brought in to face exactly? He should have just picked the guy he wanted and left him in there.

Big Klu
06-07-2009, 05:01 PM
Weathers blows Soriano away!

reds44
06-07-2009, 05:01 PM
Masterful job of pitching by Stormy.