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westofyou
06-07-2009, 02:26 PM
Surprise and impress your friends with these facts... who led each league in hits in each decade.

Here are the hit leaders for each league:

1900-1909
NL: Honus Wagner 1847
AL: Nap Lajoie 1508

1910-1919
NL: Jake Daubert 1535
AL: Ty Cobb 1948

1920-1929
NL: Rogers Hornsby 2085
AL: Sam Rice 2010

1930-1939
NL: Paul Waner 1959
AL: Charlie Gehringer 1865

1940-1949
NL: Bob Elliott 1563
AL: Lou Boudreau 1578

1950-1959
NL: Richie Ashburn 1875
AL: Nellie Fox 1837

1960-1969
NL: Roberto Clemente 1877
AL: Brooks Robinson 1692

1970-1979
NL: Pete Rose 2045
AL: Rod Carew 1787

1980-1989
NL: Dale Murphy 1553
AL: Robin Yount 1731

1990-1999
NL: Mark Grace 1754
AL: Rafael Palmeiro 1747

2000-2008
NL: Todd Helton 1579
AL: Ichiro Suzuki 1805

Sea Ray
06-08-2009, 06:24 PM
Brooks Robinson really surprised me

kaldaniels
06-08-2009, 06:25 PM
Who is next in line after Helton and Ichiro? Is it close?

westofyou
06-08-2009, 07:07 PM
Who is next in line after Helton and Ichiro? Is it close?

They're by league so I ran a search of all, Vlad climbs into 4th with NL/AL numbers.


AL Jeter

NL Pierre - Yeah Pierre (Albert will pass him this ..maybe)

CAREER
2000-2008

HITS H
1 Ichiro Suzuki 1805
2 Derek Jeter 1728
3 Miguel Tejada 1661
4 Vladimir Guerrero 1638
5 Alex Rodriguez 1613
6 Johnny Damon 1590
7 Todd Helton 1579
8 Bobby Abreu 1556
9 Juan Pierre 1546
10 Albert Pujols 1531

BCubb2003
06-08-2009, 07:56 PM
Did't Dante Bichette have a 10-year span (off from the round numbers) when he led the league in hits?

Mario-Rijo
06-08-2009, 08:52 PM
WOY, not trying to get this off track, but I saw something the other night that I thought was interesting. I was watching Randy Johnson's 19 Strikeout game (vs. Oakland) the other night. They ran something across the bottom of the screen that said that prior to 1903 fouled off balls were not counted as strikes. Is that true and if so what if anything do you take from that?

westofyou
06-08-2009, 09:16 PM
WOY, not trying to get this off track, but I saw something the other night that I thought was interesting. I was watching Randy Johnson's 19 Strikeout game (vs. Oakland) the other night. They ran something across the bottom of the screen that said that prior to 1903 fouled off balls were not counted as strikes. Is that true and if so what if anything do you take from that?

NL jumped over with it in 1901, Al 03. It helped the batters in the 1890's a HUGE hitting era, one that was taking on the 2nd decade of overhand pitching and the first of a mound and 60 feet. Once they counted as strikes it helped pitcher tremendously. Cy Young's manager in Cleveland felt it helped Cy later on. And coincides with the dead ball era that was as much as result of large fields and other changes as it was because of a dead ball.


http://books.google.com/books?id=RfDyEa_4ZfEC&pg=PA128&lpg=PA128&dq=foul+strike+rule+1903&source=bl&ots=Q5WF8nyiA9&sig=bauveaen6WwHuRn2HlrhknU8K3Y&hl=en&ei=-agtStaQFJDoMNa02fQJ&sa=X&oi=book_result&ct=result&resnum=1

Mario-Rijo
06-08-2009, 09:38 PM
NL jumped over with it in 1901, Al 03. It helped the batters in the 1890's a HUGE hitting era, one that was taking on the 2nd decade of overhand pitching and the first of a mound and 60 feet. Once they counted as strikes it helped pitcher tremendously. Cy Young's manager in Cleveland felt it helped Cy later on. And coincides with the dead ball era that was as much as result of large fields and other changes as it was because of a dead ball.


http://books.google.com/books?id=RfDyEa_4ZfEC&pg=PA128&lpg=PA128&dq=foul+strike+rule+1903&source=bl&ots=Q5WF8nyiA9&sig=bauveaen6WwHuRn2HlrhknU8K3Y&hl=en&ei=-agtStaQFJDoMNa02fQJ&sa=X&oi=book_result&ct=result&resnum=1

Interesting, thanks for that info.

kaldaniels
06-08-2009, 10:15 PM
Seeing Ichiro's numbers I can't help think that he could have given Rose a run for the hit record...blasphemous, I know....

I do wonder though, how much does the DH help AL players get more ABs, thus more hits. I don't know the true stats, but lets say AL players get 25 more PA on average than their NL counterparts. Over 20 seasons that is 500 PA, which could give a guy 125-150 more hits vs. the same player playing in the NL. Anyone have anything to add on this?

Sea Ray
06-08-2009, 10:27 PM
Seeing Ichiro's numbers I can't help think that he could have given Rose a run for the hit record...blasphemous, I know....

I do wonder though, how much does the DH help AL players get more ABs, thus more hits. I don't know the true stats, but lets say AL players get 25 more PA on average than their NL counterparts. Over 20 seasons that is 500 PA, which could give a guy 125-150 more hits vs. the same player playing in the NL. Anyone have anything to add on this?

I'd add that no player who benefitted from a DH is within 150 hits of the Hit King.

kaldaniels
06-09-2009, 01:25 AM
I'd add that no player who benefitted from a DH is within 150 hits of the Hit King.

All I'm saying is that if someone, somehow gets close to Rose...I'm not gonna be suprised if he is from the AL.

Ichiro is the leader of the 2000s and did not even play here in 2000. He has 3 seasons already with more hits than Rose's best hit season (230). Too bad for Ichiro he gets lost up there in Seattle it seems. Look at the numbers on the first post in this thread...through 8.5 seasons, Ichiro has had more hits than most other decade leaders. I can't say how much more I am impressed with Ichiro after viewing his statline today...too bad we don't get to see too much of him. Has anyone ever had more hits over a 8 year period than Ichiro 2001-08?

Redsfaithful
06-09-2009, 03:31 AM
You could probably win a lot of bar bets with Mark Grace in the 90's.

macro
06-09-2009, 10:51 AM
You could probably win a lot of bar bets with Mark Grace in the 90's.

That one caught me off guard, and also Dale Murphy in the 1980s. He hit .300 only twice (.302 in 1983 and .300 in 1985) and those were the only two seasons he had more than 176 hits in a season.

VR
06-09-2009, 01:14 PM
These are NL/AL only....anyone play in both leagues during a decade that perhaps had more hits? (I checked Frank Rob, he was only at 1603 for the 60's)

George Anderson
06-09-2009, 01:25 PM
1940-1949
NL: Bob Elliott 1563


Having not gone off to fight WW II helped this somewhat no name accumulate so many hits.

Dan
06-09-2009, 02:53 PM
There is a hit number that still astonishes me: 3016.

3016 is the number of hits Hank Aaron had....if you subtract the 755 home runs he hit.

princeton
06-09-2009, 03:19 PM
Seeing Ichiro's numbers I can't help think that he could have given Rose a run for the hit record...blasphemous, I know....

3160 hits and counting. got a chance.

Redsfaithful
06-09-2009, 09:10 PM
Ichiro has a great shot, he's only 35 and has always been in great shape. What if he wants (and is able) to play until he's 43 or 44? He could have a few more 200+ hit seasons and then a few slop 100-150 hit seasons when he's older and get there. Just depends on if he wants it I think, because I'd bet on him aging pretty well.

kaldaniels
06-09-2009, 09:37 PM
Ichiro has a great shot, he's only 35 and has always been in great shape. What if he wants (and is able) to play until he's 43 or 44? He could have a few more 200+ hit seasons and then a few slop 100-150 hit seasons when he's older and get there. Just depends on if he wants it I think, because I'd bet on him aging pretty well.

You do realize he only has 1800 some hits in America...are we going to count Japan hits? I wouldn't think so.

westofyou
06-09-2009, 10:31 PM
Having not gone off to fight WW II helped this somewhat no name accumulate so many hits.

Bob, was pretty good.

Exempted from World War II military service due to head injuries from being hit by a pitch in 1943, Elliott was named to the NL All-Star team in 1941, 1942, 1944 and 1945, and finished among the top ten players in the MVP voting from 1942 through 1944,

Sea Ray
06-09-2009, 11:00 PM
Ichiro has a great shot, he's only 35 and has always been in great shape. What if he wants (and is able) to play until he's 43 or 44? He could have a few more 200+ hit seasons and then a few slop 100-150 hit seasons when he's older and get there. Just depends on if he wants it I think, because I'd bet on him aging pretty well.

Princeton's post of "3160 and counting" was a little misleading. That's how many hits he needs before he catches Pete, not how many he already has. If he has 15 more 200 hit seasons he'll still fall short of Pete.

kaldaniels
06-09-2009, 11:05 PM
Princeton's post of "3160 and counting" was a little misleading. That's how many hits he needs before he catches Pete, not how many he already has. If he has 15 more 200 hit seasons he'll still fall short of Pete.

Not sure about that...Ichiro needs much less than that to catch Rose...I can't read minds but I think he was counting Japan hits...regardless it was misleading.

princeton
06-09-2009, 11:49 PM
Princeton's post of "3160 and counting" was a little misleading. That's how many hits he needs before he catches Pete, not how many he already has.

I'm counting his hits in Japan

only 35 years old...

macro
06-10-2009, 12:03 AM
These are NL/AL only....anyone play in both leagues during a decade that perhaps had more hits? (I checked Frank Rob, he was only at 1603 for the 60's)

Ahh, that's an important distinction that I hadn't considered.


Princeton's post of "3160 and counting" was a little misleading. That's how many hits he needs before he catches Pete, not how many he already has. If he has 15 more 200 hit seasons he'll still fall short of Pete.

...and that's what's so amazing about Pete's record. Accumulate 200 hits a season for 21 seasons and you still don't catch him.

VR
06-10-2009, 12:38 AM
It would be interesting to figure out who has had the most hits over any 10 year period.

BCubb2003
06-10-2009, 02:12 AM
It would be interesting to figure out who has had the most hits over any 10 year period.

From the looks of things it's still Hornsby and Rose, with a valiant effort by Gehrig from the mid 20s to mid 30s.

Redsfaithful
06-10-2009, 03:34 AM
Whoops, that is pretty obvious in retrospect, that'll teach me not to check baseball reference before posting.

Redlegs
06-10-2009, 06:31 AM
Dale Murphy is one of my favorite big leaguers of all-time. I think his numbers are good enough for Cooperstown. Great stats. Thanks. :thumbup:

princeton
06-10-2009, 09:58 AM
I think that if Ichiro gets hit number 4257 (almost 3000 of which will have been in US)he'll be anointed the Hit King. As he should be.

but Charlie Hustle will get a lot of press. Win Win.