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OnBaseMachine
06-10-2009, 10:59 AM
The draft resumes at noon with rounds 4-30 today. Here are some of the top players still available.

Best On The Board For Day Two

Posted Jun. 9, 2009 10:52 pm by Conor Glassey
Filed under: College, Draft Day, High School

For those keeping score at home, here are the best-available picks still on the board, according to our latest Top 100:

30. Max Stassi, c, Yuba City (Calif.) HS

38. Sam Dyson, rhp, South Carolina

41. Zack Von Rosenbuerg, rhp, Zachary (La.) HS

43. Brody Colvin, rhp, More HS, Lafayette, La.

45. Madison Younginer, rhp, Mauldin (S.C.) HS

47. Keyvius Sampson, rhp, Forest HS, Ocala, Fla.

55. Chris Dwyer, lhp, Clemson

59. Jeff Malm, 1b, Bishop Gorman HS, Las Vegas

60. A.J. Morris, rhp, Kansas State

62. Jason Stoffel, rhp, Arizona

63. Kent Matthes, of, Alabama

64. Angelo Songco, of, Loyola Marymount

65. Brian Goodwin, of, Rocky Mount (N.C.) HS

68. Dane Williams, rhp, Archbishop McCarthy HS, SW Ranches, Fla.

74. Jacob Stewart, of, Rocky Moutain HS, Fort Collins, Colo.

80. Ryan Jackson, ss, Miami

81. Austin Maddox, c, Eagleís View Academy, Jacksonville, Fla.

82. Brooks Raley, lhp/of, Texas A&M

83. Andrew Doyle, rhp, Oklahoma

90. Ryan Buch, rhp, Monmouth

92. Kendal Volz, rhp, Baylor

94. Matt den Dekker, of, Florida

96. Luke Bailey, c, Troup HS, LaGrange, Ga.

http://www.baseballamerica.com/blog/draft/?p=1140

Grande Donkey
06-10-2009, 11:00 AM
When is the Reds next pick?

OnBaseMachine
06-10-2009, 11:04 AM
When is the Reds next pick?

119 I think.

lollipopcurve
06-10-2009, 11:19 AM
Some personal favorites left on the board: Von Rosenburg, Raley, Songco, Jackson, Bailey. Colvin's scouting report is pretty intriguing, too.

M2
06-10-2009, 11:37 AM
I'm a big Jacob Stewart fan.

edabbs44
06-10-2009, 11:43 AM
I'd like to see them take Stassi if they even have only a decent shot at signing him.

SoTxRedsFan
06-10-2009, 11:52 AM
Is signability the main reason that Stassi fell? Where is he commited to?

OnBaseMachine
06-10-2009, 11:56 AM
I'd take a chance on someone like Stassi, Stewart, or Younginer. I also like Kent Matthes, Kendal Volz, and Ryan Buch.

OnBaseMachine
06-10-2009, 12:01 PM
My Guys on Day 2

by Bryan Smith

For a fan of the college game, this day two of the June draft is going to be filled with a lot of interesting names. Yesterday was too, of course, but they were the same names weíve all heard about for months. I sort of relish this second day as an opportunity to see some real sleepers, to see which teamís scouting departments my own biases line up with. In previous years, Iíve always posted a list of the guys I like more than the rest ó who Iíd be taking in the early-to-middle rounds.

I liked the Jared Mitchell and Matt Bashore selections yesterday, for instance, but today I think youíll hear from more than a few guys I think are destined big leaguers. Hereís five I like more than the rest, ranked in order of where I think they deserve to go:

Kyle Thebeau, rhp, Texas A&M. I panned the Nationals yesterday for drafting Georgia Friday night starter Trevor Holder in the third round, as the right-hander really just has three average pitches. But, Washington really is the one team where drafting for signability in these middle rounds makes sense: the Strasburg bonus takes a chunk out of the budget, no doubt. Still, why Holder rather than Thebeau? The latter was a top prospect in 2007, following his sophomore season, when he struck out 10.5 batters per nine in a weekend starter spot. But command problems pushed him out of the rotation as a junior, and he wanted better than to sign as a ninth round pick. This season, the sole focus because improving his command, which regrettably early in the season meant a decline in stuff. His K/BB ratio this year is 40/13 in 59 innings, which is littered with both positives and negatives. But late in the season, the stuff was back, and Thebeau showed enough endurance to warrant a move back to a minor league rotation next year. The seniorís last six collegiate appearances: 23 innings, 16 hits, 2 earned runs, 3 walks and 20 strikeouts.

Khris Davis, of, Cal State Fullerton. The Titans have a lot of players that have become household names in their run as the number two team in the country this season, but not enough know about their 2009 MVP (as voted on by me), Khris Davis. We knew before the season that the offense needed a power bat, we just didnít know where it would come from. Davis, who had struggled on and off the field for two seasons, seemed an unlikely source. However, here we stand four months later, and Davis leads Fullerton in doubles (25), home runs (16) and walks (34). Heís probably a touch too slow to play center, and his arm not quite enough for right field, but I think he hits enough for left. Heís turned it on in the postseason, too, going 11-for-23 with four walks and four home runs in five tournament games.

Caleb Cotham, rhp, Vanderbilt. Many of you know the affinity I hold for the Cape Cod League, and Cotham was very good with the Brewster Whitecaps one year ago. The right-hander allowed just 34 hits in 46 innings, striking out 51 batters on the summer. Inconsistency, as it has throughout his career at Vanderbilt, plagued his season, as Cotham managed only a 4.10 ERA in 13 starts as a junior. Commodores coaches put Cotham in the bullpen towards the end of the season, but when they let him loose as a starter in the postseason, the Cape version of Cotham was there: a complete game shut out of Middle Tennessee State and a seven-inning, one run domination of Arkansas in the SEC Tournament. All told, 16 innings, with a strikeout-to-walk of 15/1, thanks to the rediscovery of a two-plane slider. Tim Corbin tells me he thinks with one more season, his coaches could make Cotham a first rounder. If Iím a team in the middle rounds, I donít let Corbin get the chance.

Tyson Van Winkle, c, Gonzaga. Even outside of his utterly fantastic baseball name, Van Winkle is a prospect not getting enough attention. Yesterday, the college side saw three catchers drafted in the first three rounds. Today, I think youíll see Trevor Coleman (Missouri) and Ryan Ortiz (Oregon State) both get drafted before Van Winkle is considered. I think itís a mistake ó I would grade Van Winkle higher than Robert Stock, even. A converted infielder, he doesnít have Stockís arm behind the plate, but almost threw out an identical number of runners behind the plate. Reports were positive about his gradual improvement, and Van Winkle threw out 4-of-7 runners in postseason play. As a hitter, he was Gonzagaís best, offering gap power (27 doubles, 5 home runs) and good contact skills (28 strikeouts in 232 at-bats). For me, more than Stock, Ortiz or Tommy Medica, Van Winkle was the best collegiate catcher on the West Coast this season.

Preston Clark, c, Texas. Another catcher, and another senior, as Iím even pushing signability a little bit on this second day. Why not draft Clark and then spend the money on Max Stassi, and see who works out better as a catcher? In 2007, Clark as a five-figure bargain was an impossible thought, he was a draft-eligible sophomore coming off a .286/.350/.498 season with the bat at Texas ó he had a lot of teams on him. But Clark didnít show much of a desire to sign, slipped until the 33rd round, and itís been downhill since. Numerous injuries, including a bad one to his shoulder, have really damaged his last two seasons. His latest injury he didnít return from until the second game of the Big 12 Tournament, but since then, heís been very good. Clark has hit .333/.359/.611 in the postseason, and while heís been unable to catch, bashing his first two home runs of the season is a good sign about his health. Heís played behind the plate, at the corners and in the outfield, so at worst, I think heís a bench bat (Tyler Houston?) down the road. You can do worse for $50,000.

http://www.baseballprospectus.com/unfiltered/?p=1308

OnBaseMachine
06-10-2009, 12:07 PM
Day two is now underway.

redhawk61
06-10-2009, 12:08 PM
Reds Pick #119 Round 4

Mark Fleury Catcher UNC

OnBaseMachine
06-10-2009, 12:08 PM
Giants take Jason Stoffel in the 4th round.

JaxRed
06-10-2009, 12:09 PM
Fluery

OnBaseMachine
06-10-2009, 12:09 PM
The Rockies take Kent Matthes two picks later. Great draft so far by the Rockies.

BuckeyeRedleg
06-10-2009, 12:09 PM
Mark Fleury - UNC

redhawk61
06-10-2009, 12:11 PM
http://tarheelblue.cstv.com/sports/m-basebl/mtt/fleury_mark00.html
http://grfx.cstv.com/photos/schools/unc/sports/m-basebl/auto_headshot/2605971.jpeg

OnBaseMachine
06-10-2009, 12:11 PM
Fleury hit .315/.404/.578 this year with 19 doubles and 12 homers in 232 atbats.

princeton
06-10-2009, 12:12 PM
he shut down the Red Wings last night :thumbup:

OnBaseMachine
06-10-2009, 12:12 PM
A's took Max Stassi.

BuckeyeRedleg
06-10-2009, 12:13 PM
Mark Fleury (Jr. catcher-UNC)

.982 OPS in 2009

.749 OPS in 2008

http://tarheelblue.cstv.com/sports/m-basebl/mtt/fleury_mark00.html

edabbs44
06-10-2009, 12:17 PM
Catcher from a big-time college program...not a bad selection. I love the focus on college guys.

OnBaseMachine
06-10-2009, 12:20 PM
Round 5 has started.

bucksfan2
06-10-2009, 12:20 PM
SS, give me SS.

BuckeyeRedleg
06-10-2009, 12:21 PM
Is Ryan Jackson still available?

OnBaseMachine
06-10-2009, 12:22 PM
Is Ryan Jackson still available?

Yes.

redhawk61
06-10-2009, 12:22 PM
Reds 5th round-Daniel Tuttle RHP

Doc. Scott
06-10-2009, 12:22 PM
Reds take Daniel Tuttle, RHP, from a North Carolina HS.

MLB.com scouting report reads like Josh Ravin's- Ravin was taken in the same round a couple years ago. Lots of velocity, plus slider, inconsistent command. Unorthodox delivery with trouble repeating mechanics.

aubashbrother
06-10-2009, 12:22 PM
Daniel Tuttle ? got anything on him obm

redhawk61
06-10-2009, 12:23 PM
http://mlb.mlb.com/mlb/events/draft/y2009/reports.jsp?content=tuttle

OnBaseMachine
06-10-2009, 12:23 PM
Tuttle has a full scouting report, so he must be rated fairly high.

aubashbrother
06-10-2009, 12:23 PM
Fastball: Tuttle threw his fastball anywhere between 88 and 94 mph and sat comfortably at 90-91 mph.
Fastball movement: Tuttle has plus sink on his fastball.
Slider: He has a plus slider.
Changeup: His changeup is just OK ... a work in progress.
Control: His command was bad in the summer, good again early, then bad again.
Poise: Has decent mound presence.
Physical Description: Tuttle isn't all that big, kind of medium sized and isn't overly physical. He uses a low three-quarters delivery.
Medical Update: Healthy.
Strengths: Arm strength and good pure stuff, with two above-average to plus pitches and a third that has a chance.
Weaknesses: Command, largely because of delivery problems. He doesn't always keep his direction to the plate.
Summary: There's a lot to like about Tuttle, the North Carolina prep star. He has a great arm with good pure stuff, highlighted by a plus slider and a fastball he can run up to 94 mph. He also has the makings of a changeup. What he doesn't always have is consistent command, affected by a somewhat unorthodox delivery that he has trouble repeating. Still, there's plenty to work with for any team that decides to take him on Draft Day.

Homer Bailey
06-10-2009, 12:23 PM
There is a Albert Pujols (12th round) and Ian Kinsler (17th round) out there somewhere. Go find him Buckley!

redhawk61
06-10-2009, 12:24 PM
Fastball 88-94 with plus sink
Has a plus slider

I like this pick A LOT

princeton
06-10-2009, 12:24 PM
Reds drafted RHP David Tuttle many years ago, and sent him to Detroit in the David Wells trade

OnBaseMachine
06-10-2009, 12:25 PM
Jacob Stewart would be a nice get in the 6th round.

MikeS21
06-10-2009, 12:26 PM
Fastball 88-94 with plus sink
Has a plus slider

I like this pick A LOT
Plus he now has Mario Soto to help him with that change. What's not to like?

Doc. Scott
06-10-2009, 12:26 PM
Cardinals take that Jackson guy some of you were on about.

aubashbrother
06-10-2009, 12:26 PM
cardinals got ryan jackson

redhawk61
06-10-2009, 12:26 PM
Watching his scouting video, his slider is VERY nasty

Kc61
06-10-2009, 12:27 PM
Reds seem to have all but given up on offense.

Doc. Scott
06-10-2009, 12:27 PM
Run on middle infielders- four in a row there a minute ago.

OnBaseMachine
06-10-2009, 12:29 PM
Buch, Volz, Dyson, Goodwin, Stewart, Younginer, and Malm are all available.

aubashbrother
06-10-2009, 12:30 PM
rays get malm

OnBaseMachine
06-10-2009, 12:30 PM
Rays take Malm.

Doc. Scott
06-10-2009, 12:30 PM
Malm goes to TB at the tail end of round 5.

Interestingly, he's got the same name as the bed I just bought from Ikea.

redhawk61
06-10-2009, 12:31 PM
Come on Austin Maddox

JaxRed
06-10-2009, 12:32 PM
Does Austin Maddux have leprosy?

redhawk61
06-10-2009, 12:33 PM
Pick number 179 Round 6, Reds select:

Mark Serrano RHP Oral Roberts University

GIDP
06-10-2009, 12:33 PM
Pedro Cerano

Doc. Scott
06-10-2009, 12:34 PM
Another pitcher in round 6- Mark Serrano, Oral Roberts U. A fifth-year senior who's 23 already.

Doc. Scott
06-10-2009, 12:35 PM
Texas takes Ruben Sierra Jr. out of PR.

redhawk61
06-10-2009, 12:36 PM
http://www.orugoldeneagles.com/ViewArticle.dbml?DB_OEM_ID=17000&ATCLID=1372382

http://image.cdnl3.xosnetwork.com/pics/200/LK/LKAJRUGWSOXWASF.20090105231053.jpg

KoryMac5
06-10-2009, 12:37 PM
With Stassi on the board why take the college catcher out of North Carolina.

aubashbrother
06-10-2009, 12:37 PM
hes his stats from this year

http://www.orugoldeneagles.com/fls/17000/stats/baseball/2009/teamcume.htm


pretty good numbers

OnBaseMachine
06-10-2009, 12:38 PM
Dodgers select a catcher from Puerto Rico. Puerto Rico is always churning out catchers.

BuckeyeRedleg
06-10-2009, 12:38 PM
Serrano had 132 K's in 86 IP this year at Oral Roberts.

86.1 IP
132 K
25 BB
1.01 WHIP

RedlegJake
06-10-2009, 12:38 PM
Pitched Leake to a standstill in the tourney but lost it in the ninth. They abused him though - he threw as many as a 158 pitches in a start. Yes, 158.

redhawk61
06-10-2009, 12:38 PM
Had 13.8 K's/9 innings

princeton
06-10-2009, 12:41 PM
all of these short productive righthanders-- it's like Buckley read Moneyball on Tuesday afternoon

backbencher
06-10-2009, 12:42 PM
all of these short productive righthanders-- it's like Buckley read Moneyball on Tuesday afternoon

Or has had his eyes opened by Cueto.

Doc. Scott
06-10-2009, 12:43 PM
Pitched Leake to a standstill in the tourney but lost it in the ninth. They abused him though - he threw as many as a 158 pitches in a start. Yes, 158.

Well, he is 23 and halfway to 24, so that mitigates it a tiny bit. But not much.

RedlegJake
06-10-2009, 12:43 PM
Storen didn't take long to sign. Nats got the easy one out of the way.

Caveat Emperor
06-10-2009, 12:44 PM
all of these short productive righthanders-- it's like Buckley read Moneyball on Tuesday afternoon

Pitch them to death for 5 years then deal them before they turn 30.

princeton
06-10-2009, 12:45 PM
Or has had his eyes opened by Cueto.

a blockage in his (Lin)Cecum

GIDP
06-10-2009, 12:45 PM
Theres an outfielder.

HotCorner
06-10-2009, 12:46 PM
Rancho Cucamonga.

I just love to say that!

HotCorner
06-10-2009, 12:47 PM
CF Joshua Fellhauer - CS Fullerton

Javy Pornstache
06-10-2009, 12:47 PM
Josh Fellhauer, CF for Fullerton is the Reds pick at # 209

BuckeyeRedleg
06-10-2009, 12:48 PM
Fellhauer with a 1.017 OPS in 2009 for CS Fullerton.

6 HR
55 RBI

aubashbrother
06-10-2009, 12:48 PM
http://www.fullertontitans.com/sports/m-basebl/mtt/fellhauer_josh00.html

TRF
06-10-2009, 12:49 PM
what is this, 7 rounds and just one HS pick for the Reds?


eerie.

No, Now I see that it is two HS picks.

RedlegJake
06-10-2009, 12:49 PM
Not all that excited by him but at #7 I'm ok with it.

RedlegJake
06-10-2009, 12:50 PM
2nd HS pick - also Tuttle

GIDP
06-10-2009, 12:50 PM
Always fun hearing local guys getting taken.

Doc. Scott
06-10-2009, 12:50 PM
Minnesota takes RHP Brad Stillings out of Kent State.

OnBaseMachine
06-10-2009, 12:55 PM
Jacob Stewart is still available. Kendall Volz and Ryan Buch too.

RedlegJake
06-10-2009, 12:55 PM
Piit picked Billy Cain - good pick

GIDP
06-10-2009, 12:56 PM
Juan Silva, CF Pueto Rico.

OnBaseMachine
06-10-2009, 12:57 PM
Juan Silva, CF Pueto Rico.

Nice pick.

Doc. Scott
06-10-2009, 12:57 PM
Silva is from the illustrious Puerto Rico Baseball Academy.

RedlegJake
06-10-2009, 12:57 PM
Juan Silva, CFer. HS bats/college pitchers.

SoTxRedsFan
06-10-2009, 01:01 PM
Pirates going after a ton of high school pitching.

OnBaseMachine
06-10-2009, 01:02 PM
White Sox select Ryan Buch.

princeton
06-10-2009, 01:04 PM
Pirates going after a ton of high school pitching.

Pirates bought a group plan at the new Monongahela Pediatric Shoulder Repair Clinic

dougdirt
06-10-2009, 01:06 PM
Really like the Silva pick.

GIDP
06-10-2009, 01:07 PM
Bryan Pearl, University of Washing RHP.

Another college guy.

medford
06-10-2009, 01:07 PM
another college pitcher

OnBaseMachine
06-10-2009, 01:07 PM
Really like the Silva pick.

Me too.

Reds select Brial Pearl, RHP, U. of Washington in the 9th round.

nemesis
06-10-2009, 01:09 PM
Pirates bought a group plan at the new Monongahela Pediatric Shoulder Repair Clinic

I think we made a group deal w the Pac 10 to select every 6' and under pitcher they have... gesh

GIDP
06-10-2009, 01:09 PM
Brian Pearl Video
http://mlb.mlb.com/media/video.jsp?topic_id=4961152&content_id=4751689
Juan Silva
http://mlb.mlb.com/media/video.jsp?topic_id=4961152&content_id=4847315
Josh Felhauer
http://mlb.mlb.com/media/video.jsp?topic_id=4961152&content_id=4758329

New Fever
06-10-2009, 01:11 PM
Pearl ranked #173rd in the BA Top 200 prospect list, this was his first year pitching.

OnBaseMachine
06-10-2009, 01:12 PM
Jacob Stewart and Kendal Volz are still available.

OnBaseMachine
06-10-2009, 01:15 PM
Red Sox just took Volz in the 9th round.

RedlegJake
06-10-2009, 01:16 PM
Brian Pearl, a RHP reliever out of Washington, could go anywhere in between the end of Round 1 and the early portion of Round 2. (from Baseball Rumor Mill)
Brian Pearl continues to impress scouts with his velocity (94mph) and while he's unlikely to be a first round pick, he won't fall past the second round

A reliever. Also played infield. Didn't pitch part of college career, converted to pitcher and became their closer. (Wash. Huskies)

Brutus
06-10-2009, 01:16 PM
Red Sox just took Volz in the 9th round.

How solid is Stewart in his plans to honor his college commitment?

GIDP
06-10-2009, 01:18 PM
Tucker Barnhart, Catcher, hes from somwhere in Indiana.

medford
06-10-2009, 01:19 PM
Brownsburgh HS

dougdirt
06-10-2009, 01:19 PM
Brian Pearl, a RHP reliever out of Washington, could go anywhere in between the end of Round 1 and the early portion of Round 2. (from Baseball Rumor Mill)
Brian Pearl continues to impress scouts with his velocity (94mph) and while he's unlikely to be a first round pick, he won't fall past the second round

A reliever. Also played infield. Didn't pitch part of college career, converted to pitcher and became their closer. (Wash. Huskies)

I actually had a report of him hitting 96 this season. Real live arm, real fresh arm.

edabbs44
06-10-2009, 01:19 PM
Pearl ranked 56th by Keith Law.

RedlegJake
06-10-2009, 01:21 PM
TUCKER BARNHART (C, B/R, 5-10, 170, Brownsburg, Ind./Brownsburg)

The top player in Indiana, according to PG Crosschecker, Barnhart is rated the No. 5 catcher in the nation and No. 84 high school prospect. A four-star recruit by Baseball America's Prospects Plus, Barnhart was named a 2008 Louisville Slugger High School All-American after being tabbed honorable mention All-America by Collegiate Baseball in 2007. The same year, Barnhart was the only junior listed on Baseball America's "Best Tools" list for the East Coast Showcase, being named the Best Defensive Catcher at the event. As a sophomore, the switch-hitting Barnhart hit .417 with 10 HR, 9 doubles and 39 RBI while posting a stellar .986 fielding percentage behind the plate. A two-time honorable mention all-state honoree, Barnhart helped his Brownsburg High School team to a 22-5 record in 2008 and has played summer baseball with the Indiana Bulls.

Hall on Barnhart: "Tucker Barnhart, to me, is one of the best position players in the country. His primary position is catcher, but he can also play third and second base. A good tribute to him would be when a guy named Dave Alexander, who used to be the baseball coach at Purdue, told me this summer that he thought Tucker was probably a better infielder than he was a catcher, and we think that he is one of the best catchers in the country. He is just a very, very good baseball player and we are excited to have him."

Also a committment to Ga.Tech

medford
06-10-2009, 01:21 PM
Switch hitter by the looks of his video

GIDP
06-10-2009, 01:21 PM
Tucker Barnhart

http://mlb.mlb.com/media/video.jsp?topic_id=4961152&content_id=4350635

Brutus
06-10-2009, 01:23 PM
Tucker Barnhart, Catcher, hes from somwhere in Indiana.

I watched his video on MLB. Obviously not long enough to form too strong opinions over, but while I liked his footwork defensively, I was not real impressed with his arm strength on the throws down to second. He is only 18 though, so that might come over the next few years as he matures.

EDIT: I just saw the scouting report. It does sound like he's a pretty well-rounded player and very versatile. I love hearing that.

RedlegJake
06-10-2009, 01:24 PM
I am liking the picks so far. Really like Barnhart if they can sign him away from GT. Silva is a nice pick, too but the college pitchers have me excited. Pearl was a big pick at 9th round and Barnhart would be much higher if there wasn't signability concerns due to a strong commitment. It'll take over slot money to get him, I think.

RedlegJake
06-10-2009, 01:25 PM
I watched his video on MLB. Obviously not long enough to form too strong opinions over, but while I liked his footwork defensively, I was not real impressed with his arm strength on the throws down to second. He is only 18 though, so that might come over the next few years as he matures.

Good bat, though and he can also play third if catcher doesn't work out. Nice long range project.

princeton
06-10-2009, 01:25 PM
I watched his video on MLB. Obviously not long enough to form too strong opinions over, but while I liked his footwork defensively, I was not real impressed with his arm strength on the throws down to second. He is only 18 though, so that might come over the next few years as he matures.

yup, throws like a second baseman, runs like a catcher.

nemesis
06-10-2009, 01:25 PM
Switch hitter by the looks of his video

What a good looking swing...

Brutus
06-10-2009, 01:26 PM
Good bat, though and he can also play third if catcher doesn't work out. Nice long range project.

Agreed. Seems like a pretty good pick overall.

RedlegJake
06-10-2009, 01:28 PM
Okay we're into the double digit rounds. Now Buckley finds our Pujols.

SoTxRedsFan
06-10-2009, 01:29 PM
Tucker Barnhart

http://mlb.mlb.com/media/video.jsp?topic_id=4961152&content_id=4350635

Gonna have to go a good amount over slot to sign him. Would be a huge sign if we can get him from GT.

Brutus
06-10-2009, 01:31 PM
Gonna have to go a good amount over slot to sign him. Would be a huge sign if we can get him from GT.

With their (presumably) inexpensive picks in rounds one & two, I think the Reds might have a little extra money to throw around trying to get Hamilton & Barnhart to sign.

RedlegJake
06-10-2009, 01:32 PM
3 leadoff type CFers, 1 with raw tools, 1 college "safe" pick, 2 HSers
2 catchers - 1 a polished looking college kid, the other a long range HS kid
6 pitchers - 3 college starters, 2 college relievers, 1 HS long term project

Mario-Rijo
06-10-2009, 01:33 PM
I'm still hoping for Deven Merrero SS, my other favorite SS Derek Dennis just got took as well as Daniel Fields. Tough sign maybe dang near impossible at this point but Jake Locker went to the Angels there at the end of 10 and he had told people he's playing football period.

SoTxRedsFan
06-10-2009, 01:33 PM
With their (presumably) inexpensive picks in rounds one & two, I think the Reds might have a little extra money to throw around trying to get Hamilton & Barnhart to sign.

I'm hoping so. They weren't afraid to go over slot last year to get JC and Fariel. Hope they do it again.

KoryMac5
06-10-2009, 01:34 PM
With their (presumably) inexpensive picks in rounds one & two, I think the Reds might have a little extra money to throw around trying to get Hamilton & Barnhart to sign.

Good point and that may be a strategy a lot of teams try to employ over the next several years especially small market clubs.

Mario-Rijo
06-10-2009, 01:35 PM
With their (presumably) inexpensive picks in rounds one & two, I think the Reds might have a little extra money to throw around trying to get Hamilton & Barnhart to sign.

Hamilton is alledgedly very signable according to predraft reports about him.

Brutus
06-10-2009, 01:38 PM
Hamilton is alledgedly very signable according to predraft reports about him.

That's good to hear. I thought that was the case, but was not really sure.

Though, like others, I don't agree with all the picks based on what I know of them, I definitely love the approach to this draft.

GIDP
06-10-2009, 01:39 PM
Harold Johnson RHP, Trinity Christian acad Florida.

GIDP
06-10-2009, 01:40 PM
UC guy just went.

Doc. Scott
06-10-2009, 01:41 PM
I wonder why Pearl slid all the way to the ninth round- any insight?

GoReds33
06-10-2009, 01:41 PM
Spina from UC just got drafted by Oakland.

Brutus
06-10-2009, 01:41 PM
Harold Johnson
PG Report: Harold "Jacob" Johnson is a 2009 RHP with a 6'4'', 215 lb. frame from Lake Worth, FL who attends Trinity Christian Academy. Johnson has a good strong pitchers build and uses a 3/4 arm angle to pitch in the low 90's. He has good mechanics with command of all of his pitches. His fastball has good life and he also mixes in a curveball and change. Both of his secondary pitches are good with his curveball having sharp break and his change deceptive with good fade. He attacks hitters and shows good pitchability. Watch him closely. He is also a good student.who verbally committed to Wake Forest.

Grande Donkey
06-10-2009, 01:42 PM
Johnson seems like another solid pick.

Doc. Scott
06-10-2009, 01:43 PM
It gets really tough to sign good HS players below about round 6 or 7 unless you pay 'em a bunch.

RedlegJake
06-10-2009, 01:47 PM
It gets really tough to sign good HS players below about round 6 or 7 unless you pay 'em a bunch.

The Reds did that last year. Hopefully they do that with Johnson and Barnhart, though I'm more jazzed to sign Johnson. Great pick at 11 if they can sign him

Brutus
06-10-2009, 01:49 PM
I was thinking... got to feel good if you're a Nationals fan. If they can sign Strasburg, they picked up him and the emerging A.J. Morris.

Caveat Emperor
06-10-2009, 01:49 PM
It gets really tough to sign good HS players below about round 6 or 7 unless you pay 'em a bunch.

On the other hand, if you're scouting well, it can be an incredibly cheap way to get first-round level talent in bunches.

The "bunch" that you pay is usually chump change compared to the dollars many of the top high schoolers will command after a year or two in college if they continue to develop.

It's a great way to maximize value if your franchise is willing to open the wallet.

Kc61
06-10-2009, 01:50 PM
Looks like the pattern here was --

High picks solid, not spectacular, guys with good chances for MLB, except the switch hitting high school guy who is more of a high upside type.

Middle picks a number of signability reaches, but very good talent for 10th-11th rounds.

Soon should come the college position players, including seniors, who have a chance to be good and can fill out the Billings roster.

Doc. Scott
06-10-2009, 01:50 PM
Baltimore selected their former outfielder Al Bumbry's kid in round 12.

Doc. Scott
06-10-2009, 01:51 PM
RF Josh Garton from Volunteer State CC in TN in round 12. He's actually from Toronto, Ontario.

medford
06-10-2009, 01:51 PM
12 Rd. Joshua Garton, RF out of Volunteer CC

Pujols was drafted in the 12th round you know...Just sayin'

M2
06-10-2009, 01:52 PM
Teams were cautious on taking HS catchers this time around. That's smart business. It wouldn't shock me if Barnhart turned out to be a superior pick to guys like Stassi and Bailey in a few years.

To answer Brutus' question about Stewart, he's a Stanford recruit, which would make him a tough signing. Somebody will pop him sooner or later and see if he's up for a Dexter Fowler type of contract.

Kc61
06-10-2009, 01:52 PM
12 Rd. Joshua Garton, RF out of Volunteer CC

Pujols was drafted in the 12th round you know...Just sayin'


Josh, welcome and please book a flight to Montana.

Sea Ray
06-10-2009, 01:55 PM
Really like the Silva pick.

Nice, what do you know about him?

Brutus
06-10-2009, 01:58 PM
Garton's 2009 stats at Volunteer State C.C.

.386 BA
16 HR 39 RBI
6 2B & 1 3B
132 AB
.509 OBP
.811 SLG
1.320 OPS

dougdirt
06-10-2009, 01:59 PM
12 Rd. Joshua Garton, RF out of Volunteer CC



Hit .386 this year in 132 at bats with 6 doubles, 1 triple and 16 HR.

flyer85
06-10-2009, 02:00 PM
Storen didn't take long to sign. Nats got the easy one out of the way.if the Nats didn't sign whoever they drafted the pick would be lost so they had to draft a sure sign.

Brutus
06-10-2009, 02:00 PM
Downside on Garton: he did make six errors in 83 chances (.933 fielding percentage).

Doc. Scott
06-10-2009, 02:01 PM
Round 13: RHP Nick Christiani out of Vanderbilt. Senior.

GIDP
06-10-2009, 02:01 PM
Mike Rocket

lol funny name

RedlegJake
06-10-2009, 02:02 PM
Garton is a pure hitter. I like it. LF of the future maybe.

RedlegJake
06-10-2009, 02:04 PM
Another college arm. Will sign because he's done which means they won't offer more than slot leaving bucks for the "keep em from college reach" picks

Brutus
06-10-2009, 02:04 PM
Christiani:

69 K / 19 BB in 68 1/3 innings
5.00 ERA & .281 BAA, although he did start the season late with an injury and took a while to get into a rhythm, reportedly

PuffyPig
06-10-2009, 02:04 PM
Downside on Garton: he did make six errors in 83 chances (.933 fielding percentage).

That's .928, one of the numbers must be incorrect.

Homer Bailey
06-10-2009, 02:05 PM
Appreciate the updates guys. However, when the Reds pick, could you type: "The Reds select....." before you mention the player? A lot of guys keep getting mentioned as hopeful picks and what not, so it's hard to track who has actually been drafted. Thanks, and keep up the good work! :)

Brutus
06-10-2009, 02:07 PM
That's .928, one of the numbers must be incorrect.

I may have totaled the chances incorrectly. I got it off of the NJCAA website, and it did not tell me total number of chances, just the fielding percentage, putouts and errors. Although on second glance, those numbers are what's listed on their team page. So I dunno, can't figure out what the discrepancy is.

Either way, he clearly made too many errors :)

RedlegJake
06-10-2009, 02:08 PM
Christiani:

69 K / 19 BB in 68 1/3 innings
5.00 ERA & .281 BAA, although he did start the season late with an injury and took a while to get into a rhythm, reportedly

Yeah the numbers look bad but he hits the low 90s and looks to have a decent 12-6 type curveball.

RedlegJake
06-10-2009, 02:10 PM
On the Garton pick I look at it this way. Great D suspect stick hasn't worked all that well for the Reds. I'd rather take guys who can rake and worry about improving their glovework.

Brutus
06-10-2009, 02:10 PM
Reds select Timothy Crabbe

RHP Westmont College

redsmetz
06-10-2009, 02:11 PM
Appreciate the updates guys. However, when the Reds pick, could you type: "The Reds select....." before you mention the player? A lot of guys keep getting mentioned as hopeful picks and what not, so it's hard to track who has actually been drafted. Thanks, and keep up the good work! :)

I agree, it would be a big help. I really do appreciate you all giving the input, but I've been having a hard time seeing who all the Reds' picks are.

Doc. Scott
06-10-2009, 02:11 PM
Round 14: RHP Timothy Crabbe out of Westmont College. Crabbe is from Arizona.

RedlegJake
06-10-2009, 02:12 PM
9 pitchers in 14 rounds and 7 are college arms.

Doc. Scott
06-10-2009, 02:13 PM
Oakland takes a pitcher from University of Oregon. That's the second UO guy today- impressive for a program that is only a year back into action after being revived.

PuffyPig
06-10-2009, 02:13 PM
I may have totaled the chances incorrectly. I got it off of the NJCAA website, and it did not tell me total number of chances, just the fielding percentage, putouts and errors. Although on second glance, those numbers are what's listed on their team page. So I dunno, can't figure out what the discrepancy is.

Either way, he clearly made too many errors :)


I think you forgot to add the errors to the chance totals.

6 errors in 89 chances, or 83/89=.93258, or .933.

Brutus
06-10-2009, 02:13 PM
Crabbe is not such a good success story.

5.35 ERA, though only a .241 BAA.

However, the 'eek' part of it: in 72 IP, he did have 65 K's, but also 61 walks

Doc. Scott
06-10-2009, 02:14 PM
1B Lance Durham from UC goes to Toronto in Round 14.

PuffyPig
06-10-2009, 02:14 PM
Crabbe is not such a good success story.

5.35 ERA, though only a .241 BAA.

However, the 'eek' part of it: in 72 IP, he did have 65 K's, but also 61 walks


All those walks may explain why he got so crabbe....

RedlegJake
06-10-2009, 02:16 PM
Crabbe is not such a good success story.

5.35 ERA, though only a .241 BAA.

However, the 'eek' part of it: in 72 IP, he did have 65 K's, but also 61 walks

Wow. This must be a "live" arm pick and hope to fix a lot of stuff.

dougdirt
06-10-2009, 02:16 PM
Crabbe is not such a good success story.

5.35 ERA, though only a .241 BAA.

However, the 'eek' part of it: in 72 IP, he did have 65 K's, but also 61 walks
The key is.... why was he walking so many guys?

RichRed
06-10-2009, 02:16 PM
The Marlins just drafted a guy named Sequoyah Stonecipher.

Fantastic name.

Brutus
06-10-2009, 02:17 PM
The key is.... why was he walking so many guys?

True. If it was a short-term injury or simply a mechanical thing they think they can fix, assuming he's got the 'stuff' it's a good flier.

cumberlandreds
06-10-2009, 02:18 PM
The Marlins just drafted a guy named Sequoyah Stonecipher.

Fantastic name.

Great name! He's gotta make the show with that name.

Maybe someone could start a thread with just a list of Reds picks?

RedlegJake
06-10-2009, 02:19 PM
We had a HS kid here named Tommy Elkhorn, Rosebud Sioux kid. I remember thinking it was a cryin shame such a cool name wasn't a better player.

Sea Ray
06-10-2009, 02:19 PM
I understand the emphasis on pitching. The theory is that you can always trade pitching for hitting but with this draft being so top heavy with pitching I'm wondering who's going to play in the field for Billings and Sarasota this summer?

Doc. Scott
06-10-2009, 02:20 PM
Pirates drafted a 19-year-old C named Bako, but it's not Paul's kid.

RedlegJake
06-10-2009, 02:21 PM
I understand the emphasis on pitching. The theory is that you can always trade pitching for hitting but with this draft being so top heavy with pitching I'm wondering who's going to play in the field for Billings and Sarasota this summer?

Well, they have an OF and a Catcher

Doc. Scott
06-10-2009, 02:21 PM
Yet another small-college RHP in Round 15: James Walczak from Mercyhurst College. He's from Painesville.

medford
06-10-2009, 02:21 PM
I understand the emphasis on pitching. The theory is that you can always trade pitching for hitting but with this draft being so top heavy with pitching I'm wondering who's going to play in the field for Billings and Sarasota this summer?

I'm assuming they're counting on Yorman, Duran and a couple other IFAs to play in Sarasota and Billings, rounded out w/ draftees from this season.

RedlegJake
06-10-2009, 02:22 PM
The Reds pick James Wolczak, RHP from Mercyhurst College with the 15th round.

Sea Ray
06-10-2009, 02:24 PM
I'm assuming they're counting on Yorman, Duran and a couple other IFAs to play in Sarasota and Billings, rounded out w/ draftees from this season.

Yeah, I've been wonderin'...What have Yorman and Duran been doing since they signed last year? Taking batting practice in Sarasota?

Doc. Scott
06-10-2009, 02:25 PM
Nice note from the BA draft blog about 7th-rounder Josh Fellhauer:

A pair of versatile, athletic college center fielders went back-to-back at picks No. 209 and 210. First the Reds took Cal State Fullerton star Josh Fellhauer, and the Tigers followed by popping Oklahoma’s Jamie Johnson with the next pick. Both of these guys are outstanding baseball players with good speed, the ability to make consistent contact and excellent baseball instincts. Both were available in the seventh round because both are sub-six-footers, but both could wind up being steals.

Brutus
06-10-2009, 02:26 PM
Walczak is intriguing.

Apparently this was the first year he pitched at Mercyhurst. He only logged 19.1 innings in 17 appearances as the team's closer. He struck out 23 and walked 11. He had a 0.93 ERA.

Gave up only two extra base hits out of 15.

SoTxRedsFan
06-10-2009, 02:27 PM
I understand the emphasis on pitching. The theory is that you can always trade pitching for hitting but with this draft being so top heavy with pitching I'm wondering who's going to play in the field for Billings and Sarasota this summer?

Duran and Yorman will be.

bubbachunk
06-10-2009, 02:27 PM
1B Lance Durham from UC goes to Toronto in Round 14.

Wow that is awesome news, I actually played select baseball with him and didn't realize he was even at UC. Go Lance!

nemesis
06-10-2009, 02:27 PM
Seriously did Maddox pimp slap a scout or something?

He has fallen far far far...

Blue
06-10-2009, 02:29 PM
When does Rookie ball open?

RedlegJake
06-10-2009, 02:31 PM
Reds take Chase Fowler HS C from Georgia 16th round

15fan
06-10-2009, 02:33 PM
Reds take Chase Fowler HS C from Georgia 16th round

So in a few years, we could have Homer pitching to Fowler?

Newport Red
06-10-2009, 02:34 PM
The Marlins just drafted a guy named Sequoyah Stonecipher.

Fantastic name.

Too bad the Natinals didn't pick him.

RedlegJake
06-10-2009, 02:37 PM
Fowler is committed to Sou. Miss, 5-11 175 lbs. Throws to 2nd in 1.8 seconds. Fowler threw a kid out off his knees at second and two guys at first, rated best arm in Georgia. Hit over .400 as a switch hitter. Has some pop. Seriously this kid had to fall because of that committment. Already signed a LOI.

backbencher
06-10-2009, 02:39 PM
Sounds like the Reds may have one above-slot contract to offer a HS C, with two guys who will be given the option of taking it.

fearofpopvol1
06-10-2009, 02:41 PM
Sounds like the Reds may have one above-slot contract to offer a HS C, with two guys who will be given the option of taking it.

I hope it wasn't a pick they punted.

Edd Roush
06-10-2009, 02:41 PM
I love the idea of loading up on plenty of high ceiling catchers. Play the high failure rate the right way. Draft and sign a bunch of them and then let the cream of the crop rise to the top. The Reds' seemed to have picked a lot of talent, now it is time to get them signed. Any one know when we will start signing these guys?

Doc. Scott
06-10-2009, 02:42 PM
Round 17: SS Deven Marrero from a Florida HS.

RedlegJake
06-10-2009, 02:42 PM
Red select Devin Devin Marrerro SS, Am. Heritage HS with round 17.

dougdirt
06-10-2009, 02:42 PM
Boom goes the dynamite. Sign this kid.

RedlegJake
06-10-2009, 02:43 PM
Theme continues - HS bats, college arms

mace
06-10-2009, 02:43 PM
Appreciate the updates guys. However, when the Reds pick, could you type: "The Reds select....." before you mention the player? A lot of guys keep getting mentioned as hopeful picks and what not, so it's hard to track who has actually been drafted. Thanks, and keep up the good work! :)

Also, would somebody mind starting a separate thread that simply lists and updates the Reds' picks? A sticky, maybe?

Brutus
06-10-2009, 02:43 PM
Boom goes the dynamite. Sign this kid.

I've heard his name thrown around a lot lately. What's the deal on him? It seems he's been a fan favorite here, but I do not know much about him.

medford
06-10-2009, 02:44 PM
I hope Marrerro & Meserasco never see the same field together. Could you have imagined Joe calling a throw down to 2nd base from Meserasco to Marrerro? :)

RedlegJake
06-10-2009, 02:46 PM
Yeah if they sign Marrerro I'll be surprised. LOI to Az State. Another guy who can flat out hit, with pop. If they are going over slot to anyone this would be the kid. A big reach. The Reds have to be planning to make serious offers to pry a couple of these guys away, probably realize they'll lose out on a couple, too.

JaxRed
06-10-2009, 02:46 PM
American Heritage is Sulburans HS isn't it?

lollipopcurve
06-10-2009, 02:47 PM
American Heritage is Sulburans HS isn't it?

yep

fearofpopvol1
06-10-2009, 02:47 PM
Red select Devin Devin Marrerro SS, Am. Heritage HS with round 17.

Somebody in this thread got their wish. Can't remember who it was that kept mentioning it.

Doc. Scott
06-10-2009, 02:48 PM
Couple more Oregon State guys going around now. It seems as though the Pac-10 was particularly strong this year; there are more of those guys getting drafted than I've ever remembered there being in the past.

backbencher
06-10-2009, 02:50 PM
I'm guessing that Marrero is a backup plan to the Latin market - money that doesn't get spent in the Caribbean may go to him. Definitely a way-above-slot type pick.

Doc. Scott
06-10-2009, 02:50 PM
Since the draft-and-follow concept has gone the way of the dodo, you're seeing clubs draft less high school players late- you either have to buy the kid out of college or punt.

11larkin11
06-10-2009, 02:51 PM
American Heritage is Sulburans HS isn't it?

As well as last year's number 3 overall, Eric Hosmer

Doc. Scott
06-10-2009, 02:52 PM
Round 18: another prep SS. Stephen Perez from a Florida HS. "A baseball rat", says the MLB.com scouting report.

Brutus
06-10-2009, 02:52 PM
Found this article from Perfect Game, a report on Marrero.

Shortstops Deven Marrero and Stephen Perez
Anup Sinha
Sunday, May 17, 2009

MIAMI, FL- Most Florida high schools are done with their season, but there are still a handful of prospects in the playoffs. This weekend, regional finals were played statewide; three-game series to determine the four teams in each classification (6A down to 1A) that would go to the state championship tournament in Port St. Lucie beginning Wednesday, May 20th.

Friday night (May 15th), I trekked down to Florida International University to watch a great matchup of shortstops: Gulliver Prep’s Stephen Perez (PGX #114)and American Heritage’s Deven Marrero (PGX #97). Both are projected early-round talents with poor signability where we have them ranked most recently. While there were a handful of area scouts in attendance, it wasn’t nearly the scout-fest one would expect in a pressure-packed playoff game that featured two such talented middle infielders.

I’ve blogged on both of these players in the past and I didn’t see much to change what I’d reported on earlier. The game served more as a confirmation.

Perez showed his lightning quick hands and smooth actions in the pregame, then carried them into the game. Perez is one of those fast-twitch athletes who doesn’t run a particularly good 60 yard-dash. Perez didn’t run it at our National Showcase last June and in various other workouts he’s been in the 7.1-7.3 range. But Perez has the feet to give him a chance to play a big league shortstop and he definitely has the hands, the balance, and the plus arm-strength.

A switch-hitter, Perez’s bat is not as advanced as his glove and it will likely take the requisite 4-6 years to develop into big league caliber, in the eyes of most scouts. Perez, at 5-10,170, doesn’t yet have the physical strength to generate average MLB bat-speed and raw power with wood and for most scouts he doesn’t project into a power hitter. But he has a smooth stroke from both sides (hitting only lefty today) which he’ll grow into, and his approach is sound for a high school kid. On the day, Perez went 0-2 with a walk. In his first at-bat, Perez struck out chasing a fastball low and out of the zone. He then grounded out to the first baseman and earned his walk in his third at-bat.

Marrero also has a lot of fast twitch muscles. His hands are almost as quick as Perez’s on defense and Marrero’s arm is close to a plus as well (55). And like Perez, Marrero doesn’t give good times going home-to-first or in 60 yard-dashes though he did run a laser-timed 6.79 at the Perfect Game National last June.

If Perez has a little edge defensively, Marrero swings a stronger bat. His bat-speed is already major league caliber and his line-drive power is close to the same. At a wiry 6-0 Ĺ, 180 lbs, Marrero is going to get stronger and generate more pop out of his swing.

On the day, Marrero went 1-3. He grounded out to second in his first at-bat and he lightly jogged to first base which gave an unreliable time of 5.13 seconds. In his second at-bat, Marrero hit a solid flyout to center on the second pitch. In at-bat #3, Marrero hit a hard single to center field on the first pitch he saw.

Marrero has the hitting tools to become a run producer in the long run, it’s merely a matter of developing a professional approach and learning the pitchers on the way up the ladder. I can see his bat coming faster than the typical 4-6 year plan to the bigs, given that he continues to work hard at the craft and make adjustments.

Perez is signed with Miami while Marrero plans to attend Arizona State, barring the draft.

Perez’s Gulliver squad won this first game 3-0, but American Heritage came back to win the next two and advance to the state championship tournament in Port St. Lucie next week. It will give scouts another look at Deven Marrero if they so desire.

PuffyPig
06-10-2009, 02:52 PM
I understand the emphasis on pitching. The theory is that you can always trade pitching for hitting but with this draft being so top heavy with pitching I'm wondering who's going to play in the field for Billings and Sarasota this summer?

Doesn't the draft go about 60 or more rounds. Lots of time for other players.

medford
06-10-2009, 02:53 PM
A full report would seem to indicate that he's highly thought of. Makes me wonder what the signability of all these SS are. They must have a pretty good idea they can sign 2-3 of them.

Brutus
06-10-2009, 02:53 PM
lol turns out the story I just posted also talks about Perez too. So you can see Marrero and Perez in the same article :)

bucksfan2
06-10-2009, 02:55 PM
Wonder what the odds are that Perez and Marrero sign?

OnBaseMachine
06-10-2009, 02:55 PM
I would love to see the Reds sign at least one of Stephen Perez and Deven Marrero. Both of these guys are second/third round talents.

Brutus
06-10-2009, 02:57 PM
It seems like the Reds went with the safe picks early in the draft, and picks that will not require too much in the way of bonus money, but are pairing up risky (but high-ceiling) picks at two per position in the middle rounds, hoping to get even one of each group.

It's kind of an interesting strategy.

OnBaseMachine
06-10-2009, 02:58 PM
A full report would seem to indicate that he's highly thought of. Makes me wonder what the signability of all these SS are. They must have a pretty good idea they can sign 2-3 of them.

Baseball America rates Perez as the 122nd best player in the draft and Marrero as the 123rd best.

Mario-Rijo
06-10-2009, 02:58 PM
I would love to see the Reds sign at least one of Stephen Perez and Deven Marrero. Both of these guys are second/third round talents.

Agreed that is vindication if they sign them. I love both picks, Merrero will stay at SS, Perez could but they think he may end up an offensive minded 2B. Outstanding selections there.

Brutus
06-10-2009, 02:59 PM
Agreed that is vindication if they sign them. I love both picks, Merrero will stay at SS, Perez could but they think he may end up an offensive minded 2B. Outstanding selections there.

I imagine, like the high school catchers, the Reds' goal is to get just one of two. I think it's a sound strategy. It's far enough into the draft you can afford to lose a couple of those picks.

_Sir_Charles_
06-10-2009, 02:59 PM
Does Austin Maddux have leprosy?

Ummm...Round 18 and he's STILL not taken? Or have I overlooked him someplace?

Brutus
06-10-2009, 03:00 PM
Ummm...Round 18 and he's STILL not taken? Or have I overlooked him someplace?

Still out there, as is Stewart.

princeton
06-10-2009, 03:01 PM
Couple more Oregon State guys going around now. It seems as though the Pac-10 was particularly strong this year; there are more of those guys getting drafted than I've ever remembered there being in the past.

for years, the Reds either WOULD NOT or SHOULD NOT HAVE drafted the left coast. a severe scouting problem. Howie and Gruler were the worst but there were many more that were cut immediately.

now, they go there all the time and make smart choices (Valaika, Roenicke, etc). life is better.

Doc. Scott
06-10-2009, 03:02 PM
Round 19: LHP Mitchell Clarke, from an Ontario HS.

medford
06-10-2009, 03:03 PM
REDS select Mitchel Clarke, LHP out of HS in the 18th round

Mario-Rijo
06-10-2009, 03:05 PM
Ummm...Round 18 and he's STILL not taken? Or have I overlooked him someplace?

He's not been picked, he has elite raw power and cannon arm, beyond that he's probably not a catcher at the pro level and he had weak competition. If he's a raw 1B or DH he drops and that is probably what he is, not enough mobility for any other spots apparently. In other words his tremendous size and overall raw skill set has his projectability skewed. Someone will take him though.

lollipopcurve
06-10-2009, 03:05 PM
Nice to see the team taking fliers on tough signs. Barnhart, Fowler, Marrero, Perez -- if they get 2 of these guys it'll be tremendous. Personally, I'd really like to see them get Barnhart.

Kc61
06-10-2009, 03:07 PM
It seems like the Reds went with the safe picks early in the draft, and picks that will not require too much in the way of bonus money, but are pairing up risky (but high-ceiling) picks at two per position in the middle rounds, hoping to get even one of each group.

It's kind of an interesting strategy.

This shows me that we are now dealing with a very professional front office. They came into this draft with a strategy. They had limited resources, but an idea how to maximize the outcome.

Whether or not it works out, at least they thought it through and were prepared.

Of course, they need to sign a couple of the high ceiling guys from the later rounds. If they fail to sign any, then a different strategy may be apparent.

Mario-Rijo
06-10-2009, 03:08 PM
Still out there, as is Stewart.

Jacob Stewart? If so he was chosen by Philly #437 overall.

redsmetz
06-10-2009, 03:09 PM
I found this piece from the Kitchener (ON) Record about our 19th round pick, Mitch Clarke


Local slugger, pitcher could be picked in MLB draft

Jeff Hicks
RECORD STAFF

KITCHENER

Cambridge's Jeff Hunt swings a busted bat.

Mitch Clarke is the Kitchener fireballer who cracked it with a single saw-off pitch.

The two Inter County Terriers teammates, both 18, are expected to be selected in the first half of the three-day, 50-round Major League Baseball draft, which begins tonight.

Hunt, a third-baseman, loves to slug. Clarke loves to bust in on sluggers.

"It's a little broken," Hunt said of the beloved bat he bought for $20 off Terriers teammate Riley Bohar. "I continue to use it. I taped it up. I put a couple screws in it. I make it work. Guys get on me for that."

Clarke, a 6-foot-3 lefty who can throw 90 miles an hour, fessed up to splintering Hunt's prized twig at a big league camp in Mississauga last March.

"I ended up facing him and I ended up breaking his bat on the second pitch," Clarke laughed.

"He's still hitting well with it."

Last week, Clarke and Hunt performed for pro scouts in Milwaukee and Cincinnati.

On Sunday, Hunt hit from the batting cage at the Rogers Centre in Toronto while Jays' eyes observed.

The St. Benedict student also spotted a few Jays, including ace hurler Roy Halladay.

It would be something to face him one day.

"I've always been a power hitter," said Hunt, who gave up hockey to concentrate on playing for the Cambridge-based, elite-level Terriers.

"My favourite thing is to just hit a ball as far as I can."

Of course, Clarke's job is to throw a ball past sluggers like the 6-foot-2, 190-pound Hunt.

"The best thing about him is his fastball moves," Hunt said of Clarke.

"It kind of tails away from a left-handed hitter and sinks a little bit."

Left-throwing pitchers are precious in the majors.

Major League Baseball lists 603 righties up for the 2009 draft and just 238 southpaws.

Lefties are especially effective against left-handed hitters like Hunt. Generally, there's a sharper movement to a ball thrown by a left-hander like Clarke, who could go in the first 10 rounds.

The right-hitting Clarke became a lefty as a young boy, thanks to the sinister ways of older sister Allie.

"My dad and my sister are both left-handed," he explained.

"Every time I grabbed a ball glove, I ended up grabbing my sister's. That's how I became a left-handed pitcher. That's the only thing I do left-handed."

Ed Heather, a former major league scout, is a senior adviser to the Terriers.

He says it's impossible to predict where Hunt and Clarke will get drafted.

"It all depends on where they fall on somebody's list," Heather said. "One team's opinion might be either better or not as high as another team's."

There's another big factor, too.

It's called signability. That refers to how much money the player might want to eschew college ball and sign a contract to play in the minors after getting drafted.

So how much does Hunt want to sign? A million bucks? A hundred thousand? A new bat?

"Don't know," he said.

How about Clarke? Will he divulge his price tag?

"I'd love to sign for a million dollars," said Clarke, noting he realistically may not get such an astronomical sum.

"It's been a dream for me to play pro ball. The money is a bonus. Just the opportunity to get a chance to play is huge for me."

The Forest Heights grad loves playing the game and dictating its flow from the mound.

"I control the outcome of what happens the majority of the time," Clarke said.

"It's in the pitcher's hands. I like having that pressure upon myself to kind of carry the team."

Hunt just loves swinging for the fences with his broken-down bat.

But he's got to keep the umpire from noticing its state of two-screw repair.

"When I got to the plate, I try and make the crack face away from the umpire," he said.

"So he can't see it."

edabbs44
06-10-2009, 03:10 PM
I would love to see the Reds sign at least one of Stephen Perez and Deven Marrero. Both of these guys are second/third round talents.

Marrerro is ranked 66th overall by Keith Law.

Brutus
06-10-2009, 03:11 PM
Jacob Stewart? If so he was chosen by Philly #437 overall.

Hm. I missed that one. Thanks.

redhawk61
06-10-2009, 03:11 PM
Is it just me or does Fellhauer remind anyone of Heisey

_Sir_Charles_
06-10-2009, 03:11 PM
Reds select Matt Valaika....Related? 2B from UC Santa Barbara

redhawk61
06-10-2009, 03:11 PM
Reds select Matt Valaika....Related?
Same school so probably

Mario-Rijo
06-10-2009, 03:11 PM
Reds select Matt Valaika....Related?

Brother I believe.

JaxRed
06-10-2009, 03:11 PM
Almost has to be.

Doc. Scott
06-10-2009, 03:12 PM
Round 20: 2B Matt Valaika, from UC Santa Barbara. Looks like we have Chris' brother, although they didn't announce it as such.

_Sir_Charles_
06-10-2009, 03:12 PM
Brother I believe. Hopefully not his sister. ;)

Brutus
06-10-2009, 03:13 PM
Almost has to be.

Yep. It is.

http://www.thefreelibrary.com/HART+STAR+TAKES+HIS+FINAL+KICKS+INDIANS+SCORER+MAT T+VALAIKA%27S+FUTURE...-a0141824429

OnBaseMachine
06-10-2009, 03:13 PM
Matt is Chris's brother.

http://ucsbgauchos.cstv.com/sports/m-basebl/mtt/valaika_matt00.html

Mario-Rijo
06-10-2009, 03:14 PM
Hopefully not his sister. ;)

Well it could have been a cousin. But yes Chris' baseball cube page says his brother is Matt. Towards the bottom of the cube.

http://www.thebaseballcube.com/players/V/Chris-Valaika.shtml

11larkin11
06-10-2009, 03:15 PM
Wow. Very very interesting. We have our own Tim/Jeremy Beckham

Think we have anyone who can convince him to sign? ;)

redhawk61
06-10-2009, 03:15 PM
http://grfx.cstv.com/photos/schools/ucsb/sports/m-basebl/auto_headshot/2532384.jpeg http://web.minorleaguebaseball.com/images/players/mugshot/ph_453362.jpg
I'd Say their brothers :cool:

Doc. Scott
06-10-2009, 03:19 PM
Time for a break before the next ten rounds.

aubashbrother
06-10-2009, 03:24 PM
Born April 2, 1988 in Santa Monica, Calif...Majoring in sociology with a minor in health and exercise science...If he was not playing baseball, he would be on the pitch playing soccer...Roots for the Chicago Cubs...Favorite athlete is Roger Federer...Most memorable sports moment was watching the Boston Red Sox win the World Series...Favorite movies are "Blow" and "Legends of the Fall"...Favorite TV show is "Entourage"...Subscribes to "Sports Illustrated"...Lists "Tuesday's With Morrie" as his favorite book...Wants people to know he's an Aries...Would invite Kimbo Slice, Jesus and Victoria Beckham to dinner if he could...Best baseball advice received was "be your own person"...Has three brothers, former Gaucho Chris, Patrick, and Nicholas, and one sister, Briana...Son of Jeff and Ilona Valaika.


ewwwwww

11larkin11
06-10-2009, 03:25 PM
Mayo thinks Marrero will go to college. I think JC Sulbaran could help him sign

lollipopcurve
06-10-2009, 03:27 PM
Very pleased with rounds 4-20. Really like Fellhauer, Silva looks like he has a high ceiling, Fleury is solid, and the tough signs are an intriguing approach in these rounds. Interesting wrinkles in the backgrounds of some others, too, like Pearl and that guy from Mercyhurst. And always glad to see some Canadians, eh?

Caveat Emperor
06-10-2009, 03:28 PM
Really, the quality of this draft is going to have very little to do with who the Reds actually picked and more to do with who the Reds actually sign.

With this many college-committed prep stars (and, in some cases, superstars), I have to think Buckley and Jocketty have done their homework and have a working figure from each kid regarding how much it will take to sign them away from their LOIs. Hopefully Casty was included in these conversations and the checkbook is out and ready to be used.

This draft has boom-bust written all over it.

lollipopcurve
06-10-2009, 03:33 PM
This draft has boom-bust written all over it.

Boom, maybe, but not bust. The tough signs are all in rounds 10-20, where you don't expect much return anyway. They'll get something out of rounds 1-9 no matter what, I think -- Leake, Boxberger, Fleury, Fellhauer, maybe Joseph give them a strong risk-averse base.

_Sir_Charles_
06-10-2009, 03:38 PM
Reds picked Jonathan Reed RHP from Memorial HS

Tigers followed that up with Giovanni Soto. This version's a pitcher though. :O)

aubashbrother
06-10-2009, 03:38 PM
Reds take RHP - Jonathon Reed HS

_Sir_Charles_
06-10-2009, 03:42 PM
Reds select David Stewart 1b Grayson County College

Caveat Emperor
06-10-2009, 03:43 PM
Boom, maybe, but not bust. The tough signs are all in rounds 10-20, where you don't expect much return anyway. They'll get something out of rounds 1-9 no matter what, I think -- Leake, Boxberger, Fleury, Fellhauer, maybe Joseph give them a strong risk-averse base.

Lots of low-ceiling, high-basement guys in that mix. A couple of them look like they'll be on quick paths to the big leagues. Nothing sexy about any of them, but probably at least 2 of those 5 will become solid contributors at the big league level in short order. That's nothing to sneeze at, though.

From that standpoint I agree -- there's a low risk of this draft totally imploding. But the exceptional performance will likely come from those prep kids that they happen to get signed and not guys like Leake. In that regard, it's important that they get some of these prepsters signed.

RedlegJake
06-10-2009, 03:43 PM
I agree with lollipopcurve

It may not be boom but I don't see bust. I see it as a pretty smart strategy that gets much smarter if they sign a couple of the kids away from their LOI. And with the types of picks they made early its a good bet they get something from this draft in any case.

SoTxRedsFan
06-10-2009, 03:44 PM
Committed to Tennessee
Jon Reed RHP Tulsa, Okla. (Tulsa Memorial)
-Rated by PGCrosschecker.com as No. 109 ranked overall prospect in the country
-No. 2 ranked prospect in the state of Oklahoma
-No. 1 ranked RHP in the state of Oklahoma
-Competed this past summer in the East Coast Pro Showcase, the Area Code
Showcase and Perfect Game National Showcase in the Metrodome
Coach Raleigh on Reed: “Jon is one of the best pitchers in the country. What Jon brings for us is his instant pitchability because we are going to be losing some weekend guys next year. He knows how to pitch, and he has great game presence. The bigger the game, the better he pitches.”

redsmetz
06-10-2009, 03:45 PM
Reds take RHP - Jonathon Reed HS

I saw in the Tulsa newspaper that he's committed to Tennessee.

New Fever
06-10-2009, 03:51 PM
Reds select David Stewart 1b Grayson County College

From BA Top 200 in 2007, when he graduated from high school:

4. Dave Stewart, of (National rank: 189)
School: St. John Vianney HS, St. Louis. Class: Sr.
B-T: L-R. Ht.: 6-6. Wt.: 230. Birthdate: 11/23/88.
Scouting Report: The 6-foot-6, 230-pound Stewart led the Vianney volleyball team to a Missouri state title as a freshman and was the leading scorer on the basketball team this winter as a power forward. He also has starred as an outfielder and pitcher for the baseball team, which won Class 4 state championships in 2004 and 2006. Though he can throw 89-90 mph off the mound, Stewart's future is as a lefthanded slugger. His size gives him tremendous leverage, and he has the quick hands and strength to drive balls a long way. He runs well for his size and has the arm strength to play right field. Because he's so big, Stewart has a naturally long swing, and scouts question whether he'll make consistent quality contact against better pitching. If he attends Nebraska, where he'd get the chance to play both ways, he could become one of the better power prospects for the 2010 draft.

_Sir_Charles_
06-10-2009, 03:51 PM
Reds select Chris Richburg 1b Texas Tech

SirFelixCat
06-10-2009, 03:57 PM
I really like the strategy it seems that the Reds are using this year and I also agree as someone earlier said, that the Reds must have at least a ballpark figure on what it would take to sign these HS superstars from their LOI's. I trust the FO on this.

edabbs44
06-10-2009, 04:01 PM
I saw in the Tulsa newspaper that he's committed to Tennessee.

I love seeing them draft HS guys headed to big colleges. Quite often the big time top 10 guy out of college was viewed as a middle round HS guy 3-4 years earlier.