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Reds Fanatic
06-11-2009, 04:22 PM
Lineups from Fay:


Lineups:

REDS

Hairston Jr. 5
Taveras 8
Phillips 4
Gomes 7
Hernandez 2
Bruce 9
Gonzalez 6
Rosales 3
Owings 1

NATIONALS

Guzman 6
Gonzalez 4
Zimmerman 5
Dunn 3
Dukes 8
Willingham 7
Kearns 9
Nieves 2
LH Lannan 1



Another bad forecast for today in Washington:

Late Afternoon: Showers and thunderstorms. Some of the storms could produce heavy rain. High near 81. South wind around 9 mph. Chance of precipitation is 80%. New rainfall amounts between a tenth and quarter of an inch, except higher amounts possible in thunderstorms.

Tonight: Showers and thunderstorms, mainly before midnight. Some of the storms could produce heavy rain. Low around 70. South wind between 7 and 9 mph. Chance of precipitation is 80%. New rainfall amounts between 1 and 2 inches possible.

BearcatShane
06-11-2009, 05:39 PM
Leadoff infield single for Hairston.

reds44
06-11-2009, 05:39 PM
Uh, what was Hairston doing?

BearcatShane
06-11-2009, 05:39 PM
Taveras bunts, not a good bunt. They get hairston at second.

reds44
06-11-2009, 05:41 PM
Phillips singles to LF

Chip R
06-11-2009, 05:44 PM
Phillips gets nailed on a double steal. Corey Tavaras to 3rd

Scrap Irony
06-11-2009, 05:45 PM
Poor fundamentals there. May come back to cost them.

reds44
06-11-2009, 05:45 PM
Gomes missed a meatball there.

Hoosier Red
06-11-2009, 05:45 PM
HAVOC!

KYRedsFan
06-11-2009, 05:50 PM
TV broadcast with Dibs. Kearns and Dunn in the field. Reds vs Reds.

Ltlabner
06-11-2009, 05:55 PM
TV broadcast with Dibs. Kearns and Dunn in the field. Reds vs Reds.

The game's being broadcast on tv?

KYRedsFan
06-11-2009, 05:56 PM
The game's being broadcast on tv?

Web feed

reds44
06-11-2009, 05:58 PM
Nice play by Gonzalez to end the inning.

reds44
06-11-2009, 05:58 PM
The game's being broadcast on tv?
It's on MASN2 for those of us with mlb.tv.

kbrake
06-11-2009, 06:00 PM
Did Brantley really just say if half the Nationals played with the heart of Ryan Zimmerman they would be contenders? Is the game really that easy? Does talent really not play a part anymore?

Reds Fanatic
06-11-2009, 06:01 PM
About the only way you can see it on TV in the local area if you have Directv it is blacked out but you can see it in a box on the mix channel.

KYRedsFan
06-11-2009, 06:04 PM
Man, the MASN feed is killing me, aka "The Adam Dunn was a good football player" network. I get it, he was committed to Texas. They even had his dad in a ten gallon hat.

reds44
06-11-2009, 06:07 PM
Zimmerman makes a great diving stop and then throws it into the 10th row.

Gonzalez scores.

1-0 Reds

CTA513
06-11-2009, 06:10 PM
Is gameday messed up or did they really not give Zimmerman an error after he threw the ball in the stands?



*edit*
Gameday now updated and gave him an error.

VR
06-11-2009, 06:15 PM
Ball 4 was right down the middle of the plate on gameday?

BRM
06-11-2009, 06:17 PM
Did Brantley really just say if half the Nationals played with the heart of Ryan Zimmerman they would be contenders? Is the game really that easy? Does talent really not play a part anymore?

All those crummy pitchers just need to try harder, play with more heart. Then they'd be a top 5 staff.

VR
06-11-2009, 06:23 PM
It would be nice if the posters in the game thread could try a bit harder as well. The effort has been, well, pathetic. If we put in the work Reds' Fanatic did to open this thread...we'd have a much better squad.

Sorry, but it had to be said.

VR
06-11-2009, 06:30 PM
This ab has 3 run dinger written all over it.

TRF
06-11-2009, 06:30 PM
I'm not sure, but I think Owings just walked me.

And I'm not even at the game.

oneupper
06-11-2009, 06:32 PM
Dunn Ks

Homer Bailey
06-11-2009, 06:32 PM
Guzman singled. Gonzo grounds out. Zimmerman walks. 1st and 2nd 1 out. Micah with 4 BB's already....


P.s. I'm streaming on the el..... the power of technology!

oneupper
06-11-2009, 06:35 PM
Guzman singled. Gonzo grounds out. Zimmerman walks. 1st and 2nd 1 out. Micah with 4 BB's already....


P.s. I'm streaming on the el..... the power of technology!

Wild Pitch sent them to 2nd and 3rd. Dunn Ked. Dukes up 2 out.

Homer Bailey
06-11-2009, 06:35 PM
FWIW, Gamecast is showing all 3 balls to Dukes to be in the zone.

oneupper
06-11-2009, 06:35 PM
Dukes K. Nice comeback for Owings.

KoryMac5
06-11-2009, 06:37 PM
Owings is a three run homer waiting to happen yet he somehow finds a way to get out of the inning. Can't keep dodging bullets all night long though.

oneupper
06-11-2009, 06:37 PM
I guess I'll do some PBP with my MLB.tv feed (delayed).

oneupper
06-11-2009, 06:38 PM
Gomes HBP

PuffyPig
06-11-2009, 06:38 PM
This ab has 3 run dinger written all over it.

We've been saying that everytime Dunn comes to bat.

One of these days we will be right, hopefully tomorrow.

oneupper
06-11-2009, 06:39 PM
3-0 to Hernandez

oneupper
06-11-2009, 06:40 PM
Hernandez walks!

Falls City Beer
06-11-2009, 06:40 PM
That's funny. When Dunn came up I thought, "Nice bit of luck to get Dunn when contact's needed."

oneupper
06-11-2009, 06:40 PM
Bruce needs to be patient.

oneupper
06-11-2009, 06:41 PM
Bruce in the hole 0-2

oneupper
06-11-2009, 06:42 PM
Bruce ground into a FC. Hernandez out at second. First and third one out.

BRM
06-11-2009, 06:43 PM
VR calls out RedsZoners for lack of effort in the Game Thread and suddenly it springs to life! Nicely done, sir.

oneupper
06-11-2009, 06:44 PM
AGon base hit to left. 2-0 REDS!

oneupper
06-11-2009, 06:45 PM
Rosales also in the hole 0-2

BRM
06-11-2009, 06:46 PM
Gonzalez is 2-2 so far.

TRF
06-11-2009, 06:46 PM
Owings generally struggles in innings 1-3 then settles down. I can see 6 1/3 IP 1 ER from him today.

oneupper
06-11-2009, 06:46 PM
Rosales Ks. The Pitcher er...Owings UP.

BRM
06-11-2009, 06:46 PM
Owings generally struggles in innings 1-3 then settles down. I can see 6 1/3 IP 1 ER from him today.

I hope you're right.

oneupper
06-11-2009, 06:47 PM
Owings pops up to second on the first pitch. Nice recovery by Lannan.

TRF
06-11-2009, 06:47 PM
jeez, take a pitch Micah!

BRM
06-11-2009, 06:48 PM
That pitch was a bit low and away according to Gameday. Not a good one to take a hack at on the first pitch.

oneupper
06-11-2009, 06:50 PM
They are interviewing Dunn's wife.

oneupper
06-11-2009, 06:50 PM
Kearns ropes one into left. Single.

oneupper
06-11-2009, 06:50 PM
They are showing Dunn's baby pictures.

oneupper
06-11-2009, 06:51 PM
Sorry...it wasn't kearns. Willingham on first. Kearns up.

oneupper
06-11-2009, 06:52 PM
I was busy watching Dunn's pix as a little leaguer.

BRM
06-11-2009, 06:52 PM
Am I seeing Willingham's stat line correctly? 9 HRs, 12 RBI?

oneupper
06-11-2009, 06:52 PM
Kearns Ks. He is lost at the plate.

oneupper
06-11-2009, 06:56 PM
Nieves HBP squarely on his lower back. First and Second one out. Lannan up.

oneupper
06-11-2009, 06:56 PM
Great play by Rosales to get the lead runner at third. Two out.

BRM
06-11-2009, 06:56 PM
4 walks and a hit batter in 3.2 innings.

Falls City Beer
06-11-2009, 06:57 PM
Why is Owings' control so poor? Anyone detect something mechanical?

CTA513
06-11-2009, 06:57 PM
4 walks and a hit batter in 3.2 innings.

Hes lucky hes playing the Nationals

KoryMac5
06-11-2009, 06:57 PM
Awful play calling for the bunt by the Nats. Owings has been all over the place why not make him throw the ball.

oneupper
06-11-2009, 06:57 PM
Guzman grounds out to first. End 4. Reds up 2-0.

BCubb2003
06-11-2009, 06:58 PM
VR calls out RedsZoners for lack of effort in the Game Thread and suddenly it springs to life! Nicely done, sir.

I'm sitting in a thunderstorm in the parking lot of the Nats' AAA affiliate and the rain-delay show on the radio is Fox Sports Radio with Jim Bowden, but I'm following the Reds game through RedsZone on my iPhone. So there.

oneupper
06-11-2009, 06:59 PM
From what I've seen, Owings has been high a few times, but his pitches are moving. Effectively wild, if you will.

TRF
06-11-2009, 06:59 PM
Owings needs to find SOME kind of groove. The Reds need him to go 6 at the very least.

oneupper
06-11-2009, 07:00 PM
Hairston pops up the first pitch to second.

Mario-Rijo
06-11-2009, 07:02 PM
Why is Owings' control so poor? Anyone detect something mechanical?

Yes he can't hit the outside corner a lot of times due to his herky jerky motion. That he's ever under a 5.00 ERA is a surprise what with his marginal stuff to boot.

oneupper
06-11-2009, 07:02 PM
Taveras Flies out to Center. Two out.

PuffyPig
06-11-2009, 07:03 PM
Hes lucky hes playing the Nationals


The Nationals are a marginally better than average offensive team, ranking 7th in the NL in runs per game..

oneupper
06-11-2009, 07:04 PM
Phillips walks! He's been doing that more this year.

KoryMac5
06-11-2009, 07:04 PM
Waiting for the fight to break out at first since Dunn and Phillips are in close proximity.

oneupper
06-11-2009, 07:05 PM
Gomes goes to 2-0 and McCatty gets chatty with Lannan.

oneupper
06-11-2009, 07:06 PM
Gomes pops up the next pitch to second. (it was high).

oneupper
06-11-2009, 07:09 PM
Alberto Gonzalez hit in the shoulder.

oneupper
06-11-2009, 07:12 PM
Zimmerman goes to a full count and lines to right. Bruce almost doubles Gonzalez off first.

oneupper
06-11-2009, 07:12 PM
Dunn's Mom being Interviewed.

oneupper
06-11-2009, 07:14 PM
Dunn pops it up to shallow center. Two out.

BCubb2003
06-11-2009, 07:14 PM
Dunn's Mom being Interviewed.

Is Marty going to make her cry?

oneupper
06-11-2009, 07:16 PM
Dukes Ks. Owings threw it right past him
2-0 REDS after 5.

oneupper
06-11-2009, 07:17 PM
Is Marty going to make her cry?

It's the Nats transmission. She looks like a nice lady. Said the whole family lives on "Dunn Lane" in Porter Texas and at Thanksgiving they're like 80 of them Dunns eating turking and playing football.

oneupper
06-11-2009, 07:20 PM
Hernandez grounds one to short. Guzman gets it on his knees and bounces it to Dunn. Hernandez was still out by three steps.
Bruce flies out to left.

oneupper
06-11-2009, 07:21 PM
AGon flies out to Center.

REDS 2-0 Mid 6.

Homer Bailey
06-11-2009, 07:21 PM
Willy's OBP now below .300. Just sayin.

oneupper
06-11-2009, 07:24 PM
Josh Willingham who I confused with Kearns earlier on, flares one to right. Single.

oneupper
06-11-2009, 07:26 PM
Kearns, who I confused with a ballplayer a few years ago, pops one out to first.

oneupper
06-11-2009, 07:26 PM
Dusty comes for a chat with Micah. Burton up in the pen.
101 pitches for Micah.

Big Klu
06-11-2009, 07:27 PM
I like Micah Owings, but sometimes I hear Molly Hatchet in my head when he pitches. (In fact, "Flirtin' With Disaster" should be his music at GABP.)

PuffyPig
06-11-2009, 07:27 PM
Josh Willingham who I confused with Kearns earlier on, flares one to right. Single.

The nats are getting a lot of leadoff batters on. Eventually one will score.

oneupper
06-11-2009, 07:27 PM
Nieves lines a hit to left. First and Second one out.
Micah might be done.

Big Klu
06-11-2009, 07:28 PM
Dusty comes for a chat with Micah. Burton up in the pen.
101 pitches for Micah.

One of Liz Taylor's ex-husbands warming up, and the other will likely see action today, as well.

oneupper
06-11-2009, 07:29 PM
Nick Johnson in to hit for whoever was up.
Micah is gone.

PuffyPig
06-11-2009, 07:30 PM
One of Liz Taylor's ex-husbands warming up, and the other will likely see action today, as well.


Nice one.

I'd rather see Herrara in to pitch to Johnson and Guzman.

oneupper
06-11-2009, 07:30 PM
That would have been Lannan. So the Nats will dip into their deep and experienced bullpen.

Brutus
06-11-2009, 07:31 PM
That would have been Lannan. So the Nats will dip into their deep and experienced bullpen.

You forgot effective :thumbup:

oneupper
06-11-2009, 07:31 PM
...and talking about bullpens...Here's Jared!

KoryMac5
06-11-2009, 07:33 PM
Burton gets ahead of guys but than can't put em away. Seems to be having trouble with his out pitch

oneupper
06-11-2009, 07:34 PM
Nick Johnson pulls one foul close to the line, but then singles to right. Bases loaded.

BearcatShane
06-11-2009, 07:34 PM
Johnson singles. Bases loaded.

oneupper
06-11-2009, 07:35 PM
Bruce threw a bullet to home, unfortunately Willingham held at third.

Tom Servo
06-11-2009, 07:35 PM
...and talking about bullpens...Here's Jared!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=31g0YE61PLQ

reds44
06-11-2009, 07:38 PM
What the hell was that Hairston?

If you're going for one out throw him.

oneupper
06-11-2009, 07:38 PM
Guzman grounds to third. Hairston takes the force at third instead of going for the DP or him (home).
2-1 REDS.

KoryMac5
06-11-2009, 07:38 PM
Why not come home on that play, Willingham was dead at the plate.

reds44
06-11-2009, 07:39 PM
You either throw home or try to turn 2.

Not that.

oneupper
06-11-2009, 07:39 PM
Gonzalez, bless his soul, flies out to Taveras.
2-1 after 6.

oneupper
06-11-2009, 07:41 PM
Julian Tavarez, who is 36 going on 46, and the homeliest pitcher to ever come out of Santiago, Dominican Republic, in to throw for the Nats.

oneupper
06-11-2009, 07:44 PM
Rosales goes after a low pitch, which Willingham and Dukes fight over, with Josh getting it.

oneupper
06-11-2009, 07:44 PM
Dickerson to hit for Burton

GAC
06-11-2009, 07:45 PM
Thanks for the updates guys. I can't see or listen to the game..... and that may be fortunate. ;)

oneupper
06-11-2009, 07:46 PM
Dickerson takes the count full and flies out to left.

reds44
06-11-2009, 07:46 PM
Rosales is just horrendous.

dsmith421
06-11-2009, 07:48 PM
Jocketty really needs to add a bat, this is just atrocious.

backbencher
06-11-2009, 07:48 PM
Rosales is just horrendous.

Having your 1B bat eighth means that your lineup is either really, really good or really, really bad.

oneupper
06-11-2009, 07:49 PM
Tavarez gets Hairston to strike out, thus avoiding facing Taveras and further confusing the Nats announcers.

Homer Bailey
06-11-2009, 07:49 PM
I'd go Masset here. No question.

CTA513
06-11-2009, 07:50 PM
I'd go Masset here. No question.

Is he available after pitching 2 innings last night?

BCubb2003
06-11-2009, 07:51 PM
Tavarez gets Hairston to strike out, thus avoiding facing Taveras and further confusing the Nats announcers.

What if Tavarez got Taveras to hit it to Gonzalez, who retired Gonzalez?

_Sir_Charles_
06-11-2009, 07:52 PM
Jocketty really needs to add a bat, this is just atrocious.

And yet we're still winning and nearly have a sweep...and nearly a 1/2 game out of first too.

If we were free-falling due to Votto/Encarnacion being out...I'd be more inclined to agree. But as long as we're treading water...I'm fine with biding our time until they get healthy. If they feel the need to add a bat temporarily, then I'd rather they dig down on the farm.

oneupper
06-11-2009, 07:52 PM
For the seventh it is FISHER!

PuffyPig
06-11-2009, 07:53 PM
I'd go Masset here. No question.

It probbaly depends on who's available in the bullpen.

I assume Cordero is not. Weathers, maybe he's closing. Massett pitched 2 last night, and may not be available. Hererra should be good to go, as well as Rhoades. You want the RH pitcher vs. Zimmeran, and than maybe Herrara vs. Dunn, so maybe Fisher for one batter and then Herrara.

dsmith421
06-11-2009, 07:53 PM
Your question presupposes that Willy Taveras can hit the ball all the way to the second baseman, which is far from clear.

oneupper
06-11-2009, 07:53 PM
Big test here for CF. Zimmerman, Dunn and Dukes.

Big Klu
06-11-2009, 07:54 PM
I'd go Masset here. No question.

Dusty said that Masset and Cordero are unavailable today.

Liz's other ex on the Reds now in to pitch.

oneupper
06-11-2009, 07:54 PM
Fisher goes full to Zimmerman and walks him.

reds44
06-11-2009, 07:54 PM
Oh boy.

GAC
06-11-2009, 07:55 PM
Zimmerman BB...... Dunn up

oneupper
06-11-2009, 07:55 PM
Dunn's mom said Adam hid in the fireplace for 45 minutes when he was 1 1/2 years old.

dsmith421
06-11-2009, 07:55 PM
If we were free-falling due to Votto/Encarnacion being out...I'd be more inclined to agree. But as long as we're treading water...I'm fine with biding our time until they get healthy. If they feel the need to add a bat temporarily, then I'd rather they dig down on the farm.

I'm not saying it's panic time, but the Reds are going to face some hard going to stay in the race with lineups like they've fielded this week. Remember that we are currently playing an absolutely pathetic baseball team.

And, again, I've yet to hear any timetable on Votto/Encarnacion's return.

oneupper
06-11-2009, 07:56 PM
Dunn pops up to Hairston who stood very lonely at third.

BCubb2003
06-11-2009, 07:56 PM
Are Warner and Fortensky available?

GAC
06-11-2009, 07:56 PM
Pop up out. Thank you Adam

1 down

oneupper
06-11-2009, 07:56 PM
Nats announcers praising their pitching staff. We know the truth.

oneupper
06-11-2009, 07:56 PM
Dukes flies out to Bruce in Right. Two out.

GAC
06-11-2009, 07:57 PM
Dukes FO to Bruce

2 down

Brutus
06-11-2009, 07:57 PM
I'm not saying it's panic time, but the Reds are going to face some hard going to stay in the race with lineups like they've fielded this week. Remember that we are currently playing an absolutely pathetic baseball team.

And, again, I've yet to hear any timetable on Votto/Encarnacion's return.

Votto is back taking BP. Though the Reds are obviously not setting expectations, Dusty Baker hinted his return could be real soon. Encarnacion should be back to taking BP this weekend after his MRI was negative, and could go back on a rehab assignment next week. These are not hard-and-fast timetables, but it's something.

Homer Bailey
06-11-2009, 07:59 PM
Silly statement by me. Completely forgot NM went two last night.

dsmith421
06-11-2009, 07:59 PM
Votto is back taking BP. Though the Reds are obviously not setting expectations, Dusty Baker hinted his return could be real soon. Encarnacion should be back to taking BP this weekend after his MRI was negative, and could go back on a rehab assignment next week. These are not hard-and-fast timetables, but it's something.

That's good to hear re Encarnacion. With Votto you just don't know, because his problems aren't merely physical.

oneupper
06-11-2009, 08:00 PM
Willingham walks. I guess Fisher prefers Kearns.

GAC
06-11-2009, 08:00 PM
Here comes Ears with 2 men on and 2 outs

_Sir_Charles_
06-11-2009, 08:01 PM
I'm not saying it's panic time, but the Reds are going to face some hard going to stay in the race with lineups like they've fielded this week. Remember that we are currently playing an absolutely pathetic baseball team.

And, again, I've yet to hear any timetable on Votto/Encarnacion's return.

Yes, we're facing a pretty bad club....and next comes the Royals IIRC. After that it's the Braves & the Pale-hose. None of those 3 teams are above average offensive teams. I like our chances in all 3 of those series with our pitching.

From what I've heard, Edwin should be ready fairly soon. There was talk of a relapse, but that turned out to be nothing more than his wrist being sore from pushing himself. He should go on a rehab assignment soon.

~edit~ Deleted the comments about Votto after reading Boss-Hog's request. My appologies.

PuffyPig
06-11-2009, 08:01 PM
Willingham walks. I guess Fisher prefers Kearns.


Kearns is about as due as due can get.

oneupper
06-11-2009, 08:02 PM
Kearns Ks. Good choice.
I'm not missing this guy. Can we discuss "the trade" again?

dsmith421
06-11-2009, 08:02 PM
Kearns is butt.

GAC
06-11-2009, 08:03 PM
Kearns Ks to end the inning

reds44
06-11-2009, 08:04 PM
Votto is back taking BP. Though the Reds are obviously not setting expectations, Dusty Baker hinted his return could be real soon. Encarnacion should be back to taking BP this weekend after his MRI was negative, and could go back on a rehab assignment next week. These are not hard-and-fast timetables, but it's something.
Congrats on getting me excited, Brutus.

CTA513
06-11-2009, 08:04 PM
Kearns next contract should be a minor league one.

oneupper
06-11-2009, 08:04 PM
If it hasn't been mentioned, the Rockies beat the Brewers 5-4 this afternoon to complete the sweep.

Astros over Cubs 2-1
STL beat FL 6-5

Mario-Rijo
06-11-2009, 08:05 PM
Kearns is butt.

:ughmamoru Well put.

GAC
06-11-2009, 08:05 PM
It really is indicative of the problem this team has when I lament seeing our leadoff guy (Taveras) come to the plate.

oneupper
06-11-2009, 08:05 PM
Tavarez facing Taveras and the universe in danger.

Homer Bailey
06-11-2009, 08:05 PM
There is a 29.5% chance WT gets on base here.

Reds Fanatic
06-11-2009, 08:05 PM
It is amazing how far Kearns has fallen over the years. I remember seeing him from his early days in the minors and he was dominant in the minors looked like a can't miss prospect and these days he is just barely in the league. On a better team he would have been cut already.

WVRedsFan
06-11-2009, 08:06 PM
Kearns Ks. Good choice.
I'm not missing this guy. Can we discuss "the trade" again?
Let's not, but if we did, we'd have to say that neither team got much if any value out of it.

Homer Bailey
06-11-2009, 08:06 PM
Who would you rather have Tavarez or Taveras?

oneupper
06-11-2009, 08:06 PM
Taveras ground out to second. One out.

CTA513
06-11-2009, 08:07 PM
Dunn is playing at 1B and nobody is trying to drop a bunt down?

GAC
06-11-2009, 08:07 PM
There is a 29.5% chance WT gets on base here.

Then there is hope. :p:

GAC
06-11-2009, 08:08 PM
Let's not, but if we did, we'd have to say that neither team got much if any value out of it.

Like swapping trash with the neighbor across the street.

oneupper
06-11-2009, 08:09 PM
Phillips grounds a ball off his toe tips to third. Two out.

GAC
06-11-2009, 08:09 PM
BP GO to 3B

2 down

oneupper
06-11-2009, 08:09 PM
Phillips with a little shove at Dunn when he passed. Hmmm....

GAC
06-11-2009, 08:10 PM
And to think this team could only be a half game out of 1st after this game.

Simply amazing.

GAC
06-11-2009, 08:10 PM
Phillips with a little shove at Dunn when he passed. Hmmm....

It definitely had to be little. ;)

oneupper
06-11-2009, 08:12 PM
Tavarez goes full to Gomes and walks him.

GAC
06-11-2009, 08:13 PM
Solid AB by Gomes. Draws the BB

BearcatShane
06-11-2009, 08:14 PM
And to think this team could only be a half game out of 1st after this game.

Simply amazing.

It really is. They've done a great job of battling with Votto, EE and Volquez out. I have faith in Jocketty to make a move as well.

oneupper
06-11-2009, 08:15 PM
Ramoncito Ks on a very strange inside pitch.

GAC
06-11-2009, 08:16 PM
Hernandez Ks looking. Inning over.

2-1 Reds going to the bottom of the 8th

Bob Borkowski
06-11-2009, 08:16 PM
Today's attendance is 19,703.

The Nats are 27th of the 30 ML teams in average attendance per date at 21,256. By comparison the Reds are 21st with 23,453.

Homer Bailey
06-11-2009, 08:18 PM
Rhodes here then Weathers in the 9th?

Homer Bailey
06-11-2009, 08:18 PM
Wow Fisher stays. I like it.

oneupper
06-11-2009, 08:20 PM
Harris singles to right after a full count. None out.

oneupper
06-11-2009, 08:21 PM
Rhodes in to pitch.

_Sir_Charles_
06-11-2009, 08:21 PM
Hererra coming in for Fisher...Nix in left for Gomes.

~edit~ Oh wait...oneupper is saying Rhodes. Marty's saying Danny. Not sure which.

oneupper
06-11-2009, 08:23 PM
Probably Herrera. Nats guys said Rhodes.

Hoosier Red
06-11-2009, 08:23 PM
Well they do look alike.

oneupper
06-11-2009, 08:24 PM
Herrera vs Anderson Hernandez.

oneupper
06-11-2009, 08:25 PM
Hernandez grounds one past the diving Hairston. Two on no out.

oneupper
06-11-2009, 08:27 PM
Guzman lays down a good bunt, but Herrera nails the lead runner at third!

oneupper
06-11-2009, 08:29 PM
Alberto Gonzalez flares one to center. Bases Loaded for Zimmerman.

_Sir_Charles_
06-11-2009, 08:31 PM
Masset coming in.

Bob Borkowski
06-11-2009, 08:31 PM
Nick Masset coming in. Dusty said he wouldn't be available but here he is.

Reds/Flyers Fan
06-11-2009, 08:32 PM
Hard to continue to ask the pitching staff to limit the opposition to no runs - even if it is the woeful Nats.

This Reds "offense" is almost extinct at this point.

_Sir_Charles_
06-11-2009, 08:32 PM
Let's hope for the DP here...we've been playing with fire the past few innings.

oneupper
06-11-2009, 08:32 PM
Can the Reds pull another Houdini?
Masset for Zimmerman.

oneupper
06-11-2009, 08:34 PM
3-1 to Zimmerman.

oneupper
06-11-2009, 08:35 PM
Zimmerman ground softly to SS. Phillips can't turn the DP and the ball gets by Rosales.

Nats 3-2. Two outs.

_Sir_Charles_
06-11-2009, 08:36 PM
3-2 Nats after the poor throw and missed dig out of the dirt by Rosales.

WVRedsFan
06-11-2009, 08:36 PM
Hmmm. You must score runs even when you pitching is lights out.

3-2 Nats. Phillips error. Dunn up.

Reds/Flyers Fan
06-11-2009, 08:36 PM
Game.

oneupper
06-11-2009, 08:38 PM
Dunn pokes one to left. Single.
First and Second two out.

_Sir_Charles_
06-11-2009, 08:38 PM
Bruce/Gonzo/Rosales/Nix due up in the ninth. It ain't over yet.

CarolinaRedleg
06-11-2009, 08:38 PM
Bruce, Gonzo and Rosales coming up, and if anybody gets on, Nix.

Hopefully there's a rabbit in a hat somewhere in there....

CTA513
06-11-2009, 08:39 PM
The Nationals don't really have a closer so the Reds still have a good shot at coming back.

oneupper
06-11-2009, 08:40 PM
Dukes Ks

schroomytunes
06-11-2009, 08:40 PM
We've done nothing this whole series against their pitching staff---were toast!

WVRedsFan
06-11-2009, 08:41 PM
Bruce/Gonzo/Rosales/Nix due up in the ninth. It ain't over yet.

Oh, really.

Bruce - .215 and 0-3
Gonzo - .228
Rosales - .226

Yep, bet the Nationals are scared to death.

oneupper
06-11-2009, 08:41 PM
I've got a feeling the strike zone will be generous. Umps don't want a repeat of yesterday on a travel day.

Reds/Flyers Fan
06-11-2009, 08:41 PM
Let's see how many the Reds win in KC scoring 2 runs a game.

Homer Bailey
06-11-2009, 08:42 PM
The Reds don't really have an offense so the Reds have basically no shot at coming back.

Fixed.

PuffyPig
06-11-2009, 08:43 PM
We've done nothing this whole series against their pitching staff---were toast!


The Nats have done nothing against our pitching staff this series, and they were able to rally.

oneupper
06-11-2009, 08:43 PM
Joe Beimel to close. Bard to catch. Belliard at first.

schroomytunes
06-11-2009, 08:43 PM
Just a pathetic offensive series by the reds.........pathetic!

WVRedsFan
06-11-2009, 08:43 PM
We've done nothing this whole series against their pitching staff---were toast!
In 3 games we have scored 9 runs. That's nine runs against the worst pitching staff I've ever seen (against everyone else anyway). Our team has 20 hits. OTOH, the Nationals have scored 7 runs.

Simply this team cannot hit and they prove it every day. Everyone is euphoric about the pitching as we win 3-2, but it won't hold up as the pitcher's arms fall off from working under this much stress.

oneupper
06-11-2009, 08:44 PM
Soft roller to third. Bruce out by a step. One down.

_Sir_Charles_
06-11-2009, 08:44 PM
Oh, really.

Bruce - .215 and 0-3
Gonzo - .228
Rosales - .226

Yep, bet the Nationals are scared to death.

Bruce~per Fay:"He is 4-for-13 (.308) over his last five games. Hes walked six times in those five games, giving him a .647 on-base over that period."

Gonzo- 2 for 3 today
Rosales- 1 for 3 today

And with that...Bruce is out.

oneupper
06-11-2009, 08:44 PM
AGon Flies to left. Two out.

_Sir_Charles_
06-11-2009, 08:45 PM
Gonzo with a soft pop out. Rosales tries to extend the inning.

schroomytunes
06-11-2009, 08:45 PM
i predict 3 soft groundouts this inning!!

oneupper
06-11-2009, 08:46 PM
Rosales flies to Kearns.
Nats avoid the sweep. 3-2

Hoosier Red
06-11-2009, 08:46 PM
hey now, gonzo popped out.

_Sir_Charles_
06-11-2009, 08:47 PM
Fly out to Kearns to end the game. Oh well, no sweep. Still 1 1/2 games out of first.

WVRedsFan
06-11-2009, 08:47 PM
Well, the sub-.250 hitters did just as I imagined...nothing as they have most of the season.

This has to be the most boring team in the history of the Cincinnati Reds.

schroomytunes
06-11-2009, 08:47 PM
SAD!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Chip R
06-11-2009, 08:48 PM
Despite the result, it was an entertaining game thread today.

KoryMac5
06-11-2009, 08:48 PM
Can't feel good about taking two out of three from the Nats, should have swept them.

WVRedsFan
06-11-2009, 08:49 PM
Despite the result, it was an entertaining game thread today.

You must be easy to please, Chip.

_Sir_Charles_
06-11-2009, 08:50 PM
Can't feel good about taking two out of three from the Nats, should have swept them.

If we were at full strength...I'd agree. But we're missing two of our most potent bats...kind of hard to be TOO depressed about winning the series on the road. Regardless of who it was against.

alloverjr
06-11-2009, 08:50 PM
The Reds were no hit after Gonzo singled in run #2. 5 total hits. Yikes.

SirFelixCat
06-11-2009, 08:52 PM
My God something has to be done about this offense. Votto, while he would make the team considerably better, is only one player. The fact that the other 8 aren't really hitting isn't going to be solved by Votto alone.

Please, do something to help this offense!

alloverjr
06-11-2009, 08:53 PM
This has to be the most boring team in the history of the Cincinnati Reds.

Certainly in a long time. I actually left to go fold laundry during the game. Was fortunate enough to come back for the breathtaking 9th. You guys better hope the pitching holds up.

oneupper
06-11-2009, 08:54 PM
The Reds were no hit after Gonzo singled in run #2. 5 total hits. Yikes.

All singles. :(

WVRedsFan
06-11-2009, 08:55 PM
If we were at full strength...I'd agree. But we're missing two of our most potent bats...kind of hard to be TOO depressed about winning the series on the road. Regardless of who it was against.

I admire your optimistic outlook and sunny attitude, Sir Charles, but it's not realistic. This team is hitting so poorly (and have all season), that even sterling pitchig performances cannot get them wins. Look at Bruce, Gonzalez, Traveras, Hairston, all of them are hitting very poorly and are almost automatic outs. Ecarnacion, I predict, won't play this year and Votto, who carried the team for awhile, cannot do it all. Major moves to bring some offense to this team is needed unless we want to finish near .500. Or just below. When you go into Washington against a team pitching staff with a team ERA of 5.41 and you score 9 runs and get 20 hits, red flags should go up everywhere.

KoryMac5
06-11-2009, 08:58 PM
If we were at full strength...I'd agree. But we're missing two of our most potent bats...kind of hard to be TOO depressed about winning the series on the road. Regardless of who it was against.

Frankly I am tired of that excuse, we should sweep the Nats regardless of whether or not Votto and Edwin are in the lineup. What happens when they come back and we still aren't hitting, will the excuse be they haven't played in awhile and need to get back into the swing of things. Lets face it even with those guys the Reds are a good starting pitcher and a big bat away from the playoffs.

Tom Servo
06-11-2009, 08:59 PM
There's no good excuse for not winning this game.

traderumor
06-11-2009, 09:02 PM
There's no good excuse for not winning this game.I think they were lucky to even have a chance to win it, seeing as how the Nats had a gazillion guys on base the whole game and our hitting is still putrid.

But, I don't know why Sir Charles gets such a hard time for not going all Gatorade machine after every loss. Sounds like he's a bit grounded to me.

Falls City Beer
06-11-2009, 09:05 PM
Lannan is a much better pitcher than Owings. The Reds were lucky to have been in this game.

oneupper
06-11-2009, 09:10 PM
I think they were lucky to even have a chance to win it, seeing as how the Nats had a gazillion guys on base the whole game and our hitting is still putrid.

But, I don't know why Sir Charles gets such a hard time for not going all Gatorade machine after every loss. Sounds like he's a bit grounded to me.

Quoting Meat Loaf "Two out of three ain't bad".

So now...

I going to Kansas City
Kansas City, here I come
They got some crazy little women there
And I'm gonna get me one.

...take it away!

_Sir_Charles_
06-11-2009, 09:11 PM
The Reds offense, yes it's struggled the past week or two, but overall it's really not anywhere near a bad as many here make it out to be.

Other than the top 3 scoring teams in the NL (Phillies 5.4 runs per game / Dodgers 5.1 / Rockies 5.0) all the other teams are pretty much neck & neck in runs scored at around 4.6 to 4.2 per game. The Reds are at 4.3 per game. So basically we're middle of the pack in the NL for runs scored.

In fact, we're pretty much right around the middle of the pack in nearly all NL team offensive catagories. One good game offensively pushes us up 5 or so slots in many statistical catagories, so I look at a good portion of the NL teams as a big grouping. Getting Votto & Edwin back changes things rather dramatically IMO. I know Votto is just one guy, but that one guy changes quite a bit. It puts players back in their normal positions for one, but it also changes the offensive attitude of the club from my perspective. Bruce can't struggle this badly all season, he's simply too talented to be hitting close to .200. Getting Edwin back also allows players to play in thier normal positions more too. I think it'll hurt us defensively...but if he's even remotely close to normal at the plate, it's a plus for us.

If people find this team boring, fine. If you think it's boring to win games 3-2 or 2-1 compared to losing 6-5 or 7-6 then we'll never agree on what's exciting. This team won't put up the big scoring games we've seen in the past 10 years, but I think it'll win more games than those teams did...and in my book, that's all that matters.

Winning.

And thus far, this team has done just that. Get healthy, and we could see this team take off!

cumberlandreds
06-11-2009, 09:14 PM
This is about a putrid of an offense since the 1982 Reds. Just no pop at all in the lineup. Even with a healthy Votto and EdE its no great thing. If Jocketty and Bobby C are serious about staying in the playoff they need to something very soon. There's no way they can stay in contention with as poor an offense as this is.
Just 9 runs in three games against the worst pitching staff in baseball. Just pitiful.

_Sir_Charles_
06-11-2009, 09:21 PM
I admire your optimistic outlook and sunny attitude, Sir Charles, but it's not realistic. This team is hitting so poorly (and have all season), that even sterling pitchig performances cannot get them wins. Look at Bruce, Gonzalez, Traveras, Hairston, all of them are hitting very poorly and are almost automatic outs. Ecarnacion, I predict, won't play this year and Votto, who carried the team for awhile, cannot do it all. Major moves to bring some offense to this team is needed unless we want to finish near .500. Or just below. When you go into Washington against a team pitching staff with a team ERA of 5.41 and you score 9 runs and get 20 hits, red flags should go up everywhere.

Sorry, I'm just not buying that. Yes, several players are slumping right now AND we've got 2 pretty big cogs out of the lineup. And guess what...we're STILL winning ballgames. We're just winning them in ways Reds' fans aren't accustomed to seeing us win them in.

Predicting Edwin out all year is a MAJOR stretch IMO. He's just about to go on a rehab assignment most likely this week. I agree that Votto can't do it all. Nobody expects him too. But he DOES help.

If sterling pitching performances can't get this team wins...then how come they have done exactly that most of the season thus far? We're getting enough offense to win and that's with us struggling offensively and playing shorthanded.

I've got nothing against us going out and adding a bat. I just don't see it as a "do or die" situation at this point. For this club to make the postseason this year...just about EVERYTHING has to fall into place just about perfectly. The odds of that happening are VERY slim. As long as we're making progress...I'm perfectly fine with the way things are.

Starting pitching-improved
Bullpen-improved
Defense-improved
Catching-improved
Fundamental play-improved
Team speed-improved
Team attitude-improved

Offense-slumping but has shown fight and glimpses of promise

I'll take the patient route.

WVRedsFan
06-11-2009, 09:24 PM
To each his own. I do know this...if this continues, they'll be lucky to finish .500 and have 5,000 in the stands for home games. Watching a game that involves little hitting outside of ground ball singles and 1-2-3 innings while watching your pitching staff pitch its heart out is discouraging. I don't like it and I am not alone.

Falls City Beer
06-11-2009, 09:28 PM
To each his own. I do know this...if this continues, they'll be lucky to finish .500 and have 5,000 in the stands for home games. Watching a game that involves little hitting outside of ground ball singles and 1-2-3 innings while watching your pitching staff pitch its heart out is discouraging. I don't like it and I am not alone.

Owings should been clobbered in this game. Pure luck kept them from being down 6-2 as opposed to being up 2-1 in that fateful eighth inning.

westofyou
06-11-2009, 10:15 PM
Nothing louder than the lack of offense song sung nightly here eh?

Give me positive run differential any day of the week and in the wake of the injuries it's quite amazing that folks still lament that it's been weak... sure it's stone soup but it's been feeding some fans quite well.

redsmetz
06-11-2009, 10:22 PM
This is about a putrid of an offense since the 1982 Reds. Just no pop at all in the lineup. Even with a healthy Votto and EdE its no great thing. If Jocketty and Bobby C are serious about staying in the playoff they need to something very soon. There's no way they can stay in contention with as poor an offense as this is.
Just 9 runs in three games against the worst pitching staff in baseball. Just pitiful.

I think a serious run at the playoffs this season is just gravy. I don't think the organization wants to part with big pieces to try a run this year. Certainly with just Votto around, the offense still was weak, but we can't say what a healthy Encarnacion would have meant to the club's complexion. His approach at the plate at the season's start was real good, even if he wasn't hitting. And we now know his hitting was down because he was injured. Had that not occurred, things might be more interesting.

I can't go back and look, but I think it was WVAFan who suggested it's likely (maybe not the right word I read) that EE won't be back. I suspect that they're trying the non-surgical route because surgery might well mean he's done for the year (I'm not a medical person, so I really don't know). A bat with some pop would be nice, but I'm not willing to sacrifice a big piece to get that bat for a season that might well not be a playoff year. But that's just my opinion.

TheNext44
06-11-2009, 10:23 PM
This past week, the Reds have averaged 2.57 runs a game, and yet they are 3-4. If they can play near .500 ball with an offense this bad, I am feeling pretty good about their chances once their offense rebounds, which it will.

Degenerate39
06-11-2009, 10:42 PM
Owings should been clobbered in this game. Pure luck kept them from being down 6-2 as opposed to being up 2-1 in that fateful eighth inning.

Dude it's not like Owings is the ace of the staff. He's the 5th starter. Calm down.

Falls City Beer
06-11-2009, 10:58 PM
Dude it's not like Owings is the ace of the staff. He's the 5th starter. Calm down.

Well wait a minute. I'm the one saying that losing this game is no big deal. I'm not gnashing my teeth here. All I'm saying is Owings was lucky enough not to have given up 6 runs instead of one (he was bailed out by good defense and heavy hacking by the Nats); expecting a sweep is the silly approach, not claiming that Owings is what you say he is, a fifth starter, who today got very lucky and probably didn't deserve to win in the first place.

jojo
06-11-2009, 11:27 PM
The Reds are tempting fate this season. Lets hope fate is a wussy.

VR
06-11-2009, 11:45 PM
Score 9 runs and win 2 out of 3 against a tough offense on the road.

Glad to see that the rest of the way out.

Ron Madden
06-12-2009, 06:25 AM
Heck with it. Sometimes you just get beat, it happens.

redsmetz
06-12-2009, 08:40 AM
Heck with it. Sometimes you just get beat, it happens.

That's my take. It was disappointing and folks are right that Owings walked a tightrope and was lucky to have had a chance for a win. But frankly, it was the defense that kept him in the game. And, of course, it was the failure of the defense that led to the loss. This one is the counterbalance to the game some weeks ago that we had no business winning.

I can't remember who said something about losing one game to the Nats, arguably the worst team in baseball these days, and yet it happens. I went back and looked at the Mets' 120 loss season and they even beat the Giants (that year's NL champs) twice that season. I assume the Giants hung their heads in shame. :)

[As an aside, the Mets that year only had 4 shutouts, all pitched by Al Jackson. They included a 1-0 besting of the Cardinals with Bob Gibson giving up one unearned run. Jackson went 8-20 that season, half of his wins were shutouts. Any team can win on any given day.]

traderumor
06-12-2009, 09:43 AM
Heck with it. Sometimes you just get beat, it happens.
The thing that gets me is that so many games, it is as if the other team is the Washington Generals and the only way that the Reds lose is if they mess up, or if Walt Jocketty had made the right moves in the offseason, we would nary lose a game. There seems to be a disconnect to the fact in MLB that at some point in a game, each team is seemingly "in the game" and has a chance to win, and it doesn't always have to be "we suck" to explain a loss.

Sea Ray
06-12-2009, 09:59 AM
Dunn Ks

The Cowboy on radio was really railing on Dunn here. He chuckled and rattled off Dunn's impressive HR and RBI totals then said "but the guy's hitting in the .220s with RISP." Me thinks the Reds radio team doesn't miss Dunn.

Sea Ray
06-12-2009, 10:04 AM
The thing that gets me is that so many games, it is as if the other team is the Washington Generals and the only way that the Reds lose is if they mess up, or if Walt Jocketty had made the right moves in the offseason, we would nary lose a game. There seems to be a disconnect to the fact in MLB that at some point in a game, each team is seemingly "in the game" and has a chance to win, and it doesn't always have to be "we suck" to explain a loss.

I don't think Phillips' error cost them the game. The Nats already had a tie if Brandon had kept the ball in his pocket like he should have and still had runners on 1st and 3rd. As long as this team only scores runs once or twice a game, the pressure will build on the pitching and defense and they'll remain at best a .500 team.

cumberlandreds
06-12-2009, 10:10 AM
I don't think Phillips' error cost them the game. The Nats already had a tie if Brandon had kept the ball in his pocket like he should have and still had runners on 1st and 3rd. As long as this team only scores runs once or twice a game, the pressure will build on the pitching and defense and they'll remain at best a .500 team.

That error just saved us from having to watch a 3-2 loss in 15 innings. ;) Phillips should not have made the throw but I think Rosales should have come off the bag to catch or block the throw. His inexperience at 1B showed on that play,IMO.

jojo
06-12-2009, 10:17 AM
Given the final scores, the Reds could have easily lost all three games to the Nats just because of unlucky bounces.

Sea Ray
06-12-2009, 10:25 AM
Given the final scores, the Reds could have easily lost all three games to the Nats just because of unlucky bounces.

True and they got some nice calls from the umps too

jojo
06-12-2009, 10:37 AM
Baseball is a game of inches.