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goreds2
06-16-2009, 09:38 PM
I am a BIG TIME baseball purest but why not use the technology we have now a days. I always thought the Reds should have built a stadium with a retractable roof. This of course would prevent rain delays. I have driven to a couple of games from central Ohio where games were called off. I would bet attendance was down tonight because of the threat of rain which did of course happen.

Just think, if it was a rainy soaked weekend and families were in the house all day, they would say, "let's go to the ball game!" Walk up tickets sales would sky rocket.

You would not have to worry about the summertime heat with your kids etc.

If the Reds make the playoffs, colder weather would not be a factor.

You could possibly host some games in the World Baseball Classic.

Winter concerts (Jimmy Buffett!).

Various conventions.

In my opinion, it just would have made sense.

What are your opinions?

RedsFanWC
06-16-2009, 10:22 PM
Or they could have built it at Broadway Commons and there would be a bunch of bars and restaurants around where in the event of a rain delay you can go and hang out. The problem with the Reds stadium is that there is nothing to do right around it. I know there is stuff in Kentucky, but thats not exactly the most convenient.

Building the stadium on the River and the incompetence of the city/county to get The Banks built has really cost the Reds.

LouisvilleCARDS
06-16-2009, 10:24 PM
It would have been a good idea. With so many new ballparks built over the past decade or so, GAB is kind of caught in the muck. Most don't consider it one of the top fairly new ballparks or anything like that. A retractable roof wouldn't be something new, but a little more unique than the other ballparks and it has its benefits like you listed.

sivman17
06-17-2009, 01:24 AM
we don't get that many rain delays, and i really like the open air feel to the new ball park. i do think that Paul Brown should have a retractable roof. then we could possibly get a super bowl here

BluegrassRedleg
06-17-2009, 02:04 AM
I think all new parks in the future should be required to have the feature.

mroby85
06-17-2009, 02:23 AM
I think it'd be awesome to have a roof. Not only would it prevent delays from bad weather, you could also have it closed when it's too hot outside, and enjoy the game in room temperature.

gilpdawg
06-17-2009, 02:41 AM
i think all new parks in the future should be required to have the feature.
No way. I hate roofs in baseball. It just doesn't "feel" like a baseball game indoors.

Fon Duc Tow
06-17-2009, 01:02 PM
Or they could have built it at Broadway Commons and there would be a bunch of bars and restaurants around where in the event of a rain delay you can go and hang out.

Whaaaaa? :confused: Have you ever been to "Broadway Commons?" Its a great place to park you car when heading to the bars on Main Street. And heck, if you are lucky, your car might even be there when you get back.

Why not just build GAB in between Avondale and Mt. Auburn? :rolleyes:




The problem with the Reds stadium is that there is nothing to do right around it. I know there is stuff in Kentucky, but thats not exactly the most convenient.

Just walk across the bridge. I hear with the Banks project they are planning to run a ferry across the river too. Plus, if you park in Newport and walk across the bridge to the game, you save 10 bucks in parking. Unless you park uptown. Then you are walking farther at that point then if you just would have parked in Newport and walked across the bridge. Plus, again, look where you are leaving your car.




Building the stadium on the River and the incompetence of the city/county to get The Banks built has really cost the Reds.

The city putting nothing to do next to the ballparks except Extra Innings and a walk to Newport has really cost the Reds and Cincinnati in general. The ring of poverty surrounding downtown to the north, east, and west, literally chokes the life out of it. Those of you from Cincinnati, Council Election are in November. Make your voices heard unless you want more of the same. That's about the best advice I can give here.

Oh, and I think the retractable dome would have been a great idea too. More options and zero rain delays is a good thing. :beerme:

davereds24
06-17-2009, 02:30 PM
The place would have to feel more like riverfront then. I like the openness of the outfield in this park and the great view it provides. That wouldn't be possible if you wanted a roof.

BluegrassRedleg
06-17-2009, 02:31 PM
No way. I hate roofs in baseball. It just doesn't "feel" like a baseball game indoors.

Nobody prefers it, but when you're spending hundreds of millions of dollars on a facility, it should be a required option for all parks. Having rainouts or long delays like the Reds have encountered lately is bad for teams and fans alike. It can wreck your pitching staff, and it ruins a trip to the park for families.

And like someone else said, it gives you the opportunity to use your facility for other things throughout the year.

WILD THING
06-17-2009, 02:32 PM
I wonder what the HR/G ratio would be in GABP in games where the roof is closed compared to the open-air games.

WILD THING
06-17-2009, 02:35 PM
And like someone else said, it gives you the opportunity to use your facility for other things throughout the year.

Maybe a bowl game? That would bring a lot of money to the city and GABP. I know there are too many bowl games and all the new ones being added are pretty much pointless, but if there's money to be made, you might as well consider it. I know Tropicana Field and AT&T Park are both baseball venues that are able to make the transformation. If they're doing it, I'm sure we'd be able to as well.

Jharb74
06-17-2009, 03:41 PM
I think this whole posts can be changed to a Minnesota Twins board. They are building a new open air stadium that may be a little chilly until July. Ha ha.

WILD THING
06-17-2009, 03:45 PM
I think this whole posts can be changed to a Minnesota Twins board. They are building a new open air stadium that may be a little chilly until July. Ha ha.

I know. I'm still shaking my head on that one. I understand them wanting the option of having an open-air stadium, but you'd think they would consider a retractable roof a necessity for the early months and perhaps late in the season and playoffs.

Road Pop
06-17-2009, 03:53 PM
I know. I'm still shaking my head on that one. I understand them wanting the option of having an open-air stadium, but you'd think they would consider a retractable roof a necessity for the early months and perhaps late in the season and playoffs.

I can't figure that one out either. :rolleyes: I wonder how many double-headers they'll wind up with...

WILD THING
06-17-2009, 03:58 PM
I can't figure that one out either. :rolleyes: I wonder how many double-headers they'll wind up with...

The players are going to feel like they're back to playing summer ball in high school. July and August will be filled with double-headers.

Boston Red
06-17-2009, 08:44 PM
I can't figure that one out either. :rolleyes: I wonder how many double-headers they'll wind up with...

Check the records from the old stadium that is now the Mall of America. That should give you a pretty good idea of what to expect.

I'm glad they are going with an open air stadium (and I'm glad Cincy did, too). Domes suck (even the ones with retractable roofs).

Jack Burton
06-17-2009, 08:54 PM
I think all new parks in the future should be required to have the feature.

Definitely agree with this, the technology is there.

mlh1981
06-17-2009, 10:33 PM
There are few things in life more aggravating for us out of town Reds fans who plan an entire day/weekend around seeing the team, only to have it postponed due to weather. It's a major downer, not to mention, a waste of money. I would rather have a baseball game in a stadium that doesn't have that "old time baseball feel" than drive 5 hours to a wet/cold open air stadium and fear that my evening will be wasted. It causes major anxiety, because I can only make it to Cincinnati 1/2 times a year.

goreds2
06-17-2009, 11:49 PM
There are few things in life more aggravating for us out of town Reds fans who plan an entire day/weekend around seeing the team, only to have it postponed due to weather. It's a major downer, not to mention, a waste of money. I would rather have a baseball game in a stadium that doesn't have that "old time baseball feel" than drive 5 hours to a wet/cold open air stadium and fear that my evening will be wasted. It causes major anxiety, because I can only make it to Cincinnati 1/2 times a year.


:beerme:

Fon Duc Tow
06-18-2009, 12:54 AM
There are few things in life more aggravating for us out of town Reds fans who plan an entire day/weekend around seeing the team, only to have it postponed due to weather. It's a major downer, not to mention, a waste of money. I would rather have a baseball game in a stadium that doesn't have that "old time baseball feel" than drive 5 hours to a wet/cold open air stadium and fear that my evening will be wasted. It causes major anxiety, because I can only make it to Cincinnati 1/2 times a year.

shhh, the purists have spoken. ;)

Newman4
06-18-2009, 10:31 AM
My wife reiterates this conversation every time we go to a game and there is anything other than perfect weather. For the most part I agree with her, but for the sake of not sounding like a wuss I don't say anything while at the park. With a young child though, I get a different perspective - that they don't really care for the too hot, too cold or rainy weather - purist or not. I definitely think it affects attendance as well. It would have been really interesting to see if they could have built a retractable roof AND preserved the view of the river.

Jharb74
06-18-2009, 12:15 PM
... With a young child though, I get a different perspective - that they don't really care for the too hot, too cold or rainy weather - purist or not. I definitely think it affects attendance as well...

Amen, the Reds played the Brewers early this season. The temperature outside was in the high 20's low 30's. I understand it's Wisconsin, and all, but you have to think there wouldn't be that many fans there.

bounty37h
06-18-2009, 03:07 PM
And like someone else said, it gives you the opportunity to use your facility for other things throughout the year.


I would be happy if they just play a full season of baseball there first, then worry about other things....

goreds2
07-18-2009, 10:56 PM
Case in point, tonight? :(

NastyBoy
07-19-2009, 09:59 AM
I think in the Reds case, it was a matter of money and aesthetics. Why build a stadium on the river unless you can see the river from inside the ballpark? I would rather have a view of the ohio river on a rainy day that a view of concrete on a sunny day.

If there were to be a retractly roof stadium on the riverfront, it should have been PBS. I would rather be able host a Superbowl in the dead of winter than a Jonas Brothers concert.

The new Rays stadium on the other had is a pretty cool concept... but air conditioning would be nice in july and august.

GoGoWhiteSox
07-22-2009, 09:18 AM
Check the records from the old stadium that is now the Mall of America. That should give you a pretty good idea of what to expect.

I'm glad they are going with an open air stadium (and I'm glad Cincy did, too). Domes suck (even the ones with retractable roofs).
I was just about to say the same thing. People act like the Twins have never played outdoors before. They did from 1961-1981, and they can easily do it again.

Besides, according to weather.com, Minneapolis has an average high of 57 degrees in April. Chicago has an average high of 59 degrees in April and the Cubs and White Sox manage just fine. The Twins will too.

bounty37h
07-22-2009, 11:06 AM
Nobody prefers it, but when you're spending hundreds of millions of dollars on a facility, it should be a required option for all parks. Having rainouts or long delays like the Reds have encountered lately is bad for teams and fans alike. It can wreck your pitching staff, and it ruins a trip to the park for families.

And like someone else said, it gives you the opportunity to use your facility for other things throughout the year.

Yeah, the rain is whats keeping the fans away from GABP.

bounty37h
07-22-2009, 11:11 AM
My wife reiterates this conversation every time we go to a game and there is anything other than perfect weather. For the most part I agree with her, but for the sake of not sounding like a wuss I don't say anything while at the park. With a young child though, I get a different perspective - that they don't really care for the too hot, too cold or rainy weather - purist or not. I definitely think it affects attendance as well. It would have been really interesting to see if they could have built a retractable roof AND preserved the view of the river.

Sounds like you need to beat that nagging woman then ;) J/k of course. Man, if you all think the weather is hard to watch a game in up there, try coming to a ballgame in the south in July/August. We still manage to pack the stands for games though, even if only minor leagues or college.

Girevik
07-22-2009, 11:16 AM
I don't think a retractable roof is necessary. How many games are canceled each year in Cincy for rain, and how many significant (say 2 hour plus) rain delays do we see? Seems to me it's not that many...the summer months tend to be awful dry. It might be nice in April and September when it gets cold, but probably an awful lot of money for the use you'd get out of it.