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reds44
06-17-2009, 04:42 PM
Joey Votto took BP today. He hasn't lost his stroke. He says he is leaving tonight on his rehab. More details to follow
http://news.cincinnati.com/apps/pbcs.dll/section?category=blog07&plckController=Blog&plckScript=blogScript&plckElementId=blogDest&plckBlogPage=BlogViewPost&plckPostId=Blog%3ae57bcc87-152a-4f72-96fb-cc08b1f396efPost%3ab8c61f4b-08c4-4c8d-8581-323c584766a5&sid=sitelife.cincinnati.com

:beerme:

HeatherC1212
06-17-2009, 04:45 PM
SWEET. That makes me very happy. I'm going to one of the games in Cleveland next weekend and would LOVE it if Joey is back with the Reds by then. :D

Homer Bailey
06-17-2009, 04:46 PM
Awesome news. Let's hope he is feeling better. It sounds like he is.

reds44
06-17-2009, 04:46 PM
I'm going to the Friday and Saturday White Sox games and I am keeping my fingers crossed he'll play, but I doubt it.

reds44
06-17-2009, 04:47 PM
More...



Joey Votto said he's leaving tonight for a minor league rehab.

"That was trhe plan a few days ago," Dusty Baker said.

Baker is aiming for Votto to return to big club on June 30 when they return from the upcoming road trip.

"It's kind of like spring training for him," Baker said. "He's got to get his legs under him. His wind back. We want him super ready for the next three months."

It could be sooner.

"Joey knows himself for a young man," Baker said. "And he's honest."

A two week rehab? Yeah, I'll believe that when I see it.

flyer85
06-17-2009, 04:54 PM
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A two week rehab? Yeah, I'll believe that when I see it.Caveat: I am not speculating on Votto's "personal issue" but rather addressing why he may need a longer rehab than what would be normally expected when returning from an injury.


if his issue is some kind of anxiety disorder(or maybe tourette's like Eisenreich) the rehab may be a trial run to see if his symptoms return.

Ltlabner
06-17-2009, 04:55 PM
I glanced at the title and thought it said, "Votto Going Into Rehab".

Needless to say, that caught my attention.

reds44
06-17-2009, 04:56 PM
Somewhere, there's a Josh Hamilton joke that I'm not going to touch...

VR
06-17-2009, 05:00 PM
Haven't seen Joey for awhile....but he looked really relaxed and comfortable on the bench, laughing and at ease w/ his teammates.

I(heart)Freel
06-17-2009, 05:02 PM
If the Reds go back to scoring 2.3 runs a game this week, why do I think Joey's timeframe could be accelerated a tad?

Hoosier Red
06-17-2009, 05:10 PM
No way they speed it up out of team necessity. At least they shouldn't. I think they set it as two weeks on the long end, and told Joey, "Whenever you're ready just give us a call."

reds44
06-17-2009, 05:21 PM
Somebody made a good point on Fay's comments:


I'm assuming he'll be going to Louisville, 4 games with positive results and join the Reds in Toronto. Family,friends,fun except for the Jays pitchers. I hope to see him on Wednesday from my seat behind first base.

What better way to deal with stress then to go home?

Reds1
06-17-2009, 05:26 PM
Haven't seen Joey for awhile....but he looked really relaxed and comfortable on the bench, laughing and at ease w/ his teammates.

Thing that makes me pause is he did an interview just a couple days before the surprise DL and sounded great and talked like he was fine, etc. etc. This is what shocked me so much. I just hope he is ok they are really going slow with him. Reds need him badly, but I'll take him gone a month to have him for the stretch run as the Reds are hanging in right now and what a jolt getting him back will be.

OnBaseMachine
06-17-2009, 05:28 PM
Great to hear. I'm hoping he's back by Tuesday when the Reds head to Toronto. Hopefully EdE, Volquez, and Votto will all be back by the first of July.

kaldaniels
06-17-2009, 05:43 PM
Great to hear. I'm hoping he's back by Tuesday when the Reds head to Toronto. Hopefully EdE, Volquez, and Votto will all be back by the first of July.

If those 3 are up to par...I think they will quickly erase our memories of this poorly played last month or so.

OnBaseMachine
06-17-2009, 05:44 PM
Castellini on Votto, payroll
Posted by JohnFay at 6/17/2009 5:26 PM EDT on Cincinnati.com

Joey Votto and owner Bob Castellini met briefly behind home plate. Votto then left, headed off for his rehab. probably in Sarasota, although the Reds haven't officially announced that..

"He's going to be all right," Castellini said.

Votto's return -- even if it's a nearly two weeks away like Dusty Baker said -- will be a huge boost to the Reds. That may be why they've basically stood pat while the team's struggled. When asked if the team would add payroll through a trade, Castellini said:

"We've got some flexibility. We're not looking. We've got some key guys in sick bay right now."

Votto, Edwin Encarnacion and Edinson Volquez are all on the disabled list. All will likely before the All-Star Break. Encarnacion (wrist) and Votto (stress) took batting practice together Wednesday afternoon. They hit well enough to play tonight. Encarnacion's rehab will probably begin shortly after Votto's.

Castellini is pleased with the club overall -- particularly the effort.

"The fans know these guys are plugging away, play for each other," he said. "I know we're only one game over .500. But the effort is there. They play hard."

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OnBaseMachine
06-17-2009, 05:48 PM
Votto: Off to Sarasota and some baseball
By Hal McCoy | Wednesday, June 17, 2009, 04:51 PM

Joey Votto, noticeably lighter, walked past a small gathering of writers near the batting cage early this afternoon and I asked, “Joey, are going out on rehab?”

“Yes,” he said.

“When,” I said.

“Tonight,” he said.

“Where?” I said.

“Florida,” he said.

That was it - the longest interview I’ve had with Votto since he went on the DL May 30 with stress-related issues.

Florida, of course, is Class A Sarasota in the Florida State League and the fact he is beginning game action is outstanding news for the Cincinnati Reds.

“He said he is feeling a lot better,” said manager Dusty Baker. “His stroke is so short and compact that his timing will be easier to get than it would for most guys. We have to make sure he doesn’t pull anything, that he gets his wind back. It is sort of like going back to spring training for him, so to speak.”

But this isn’t going to take six weeks. Baker is guessing that Votto might return after the Reds come back from a six-day trip to Toronto and Cleveland that begins Tuesday and ends a week from Sunday.

For sure Votto would love to return in time to play in his hometown, Toronto, but that’s six days away and Baker said, “That’s too soon.”

Said Baker, “We want him to come back right and it sure will be a pleasure and a joy to get him back.” For sure, a joy to get Joey.

Of his thin stature, Baker said Votto looks as if he has gained some of it back, but he isi still thinner than when he went on the DL. “You can tell he is gaining it back in his neck and his face.”

Baker said Votto probably would tell him he is ready quicker than he is actually ready. But not Toronto, “Even though he’d like to play there. But Toronto is Tuesday . You always want to go home, but if he starts Thursday on rehab, that ain’t enough time. I’m thinking, realistically, after this road trip. His legs are going to be sore from running and bending up and down at first base. If everything goes right, probably when we come home. That’s 10 days for him - but it could be sooner.

“I’d rather have him super ready these next three months,” Baker added. “If he calls and says he’s ready, well, for a young man Joey knows himself pretty well. He’s honest.”

Votto and owner Bob Castellini huddled near a wall in front of the home plate screen during batting practice and chatted for several minutes. Castellini patted Votto on the shoulders and Votto returned the gesture as he walked toward the clubhouse to head for Florida.

ALSO, the Reds lost pitcher Mike Lincoln and gained pitcher Josh Roenicke. dLincoln was placed on the DL with a bulging disc in his neck, an injury he tried to hide from the team. Roenicke was recalled from Class AAA Louisville.

“He had it for a while, but he didn’t want to say anything,” said Baker. “He thought he was letting the team down already and I told him, ‘Hey, man. This is just making it worse.’ That’s nothing to play with - neck, back or spine problems. He said he was trying to fight through it, especially all the time he was on the DL before (three years with Tommy John surgery) that the last thing he wanted to do was go back on the DL.

“I understand that, but it is not quite hero time yet,” Baker said. “It’s admirable whenl your guys want to play, want to pitch and contribute, but hopefully now we can get it straight and he can come back and be the Linc that we know.”

http://www.daytondailynews.com/blogs/content/shared-gen/blogs/dayton/cincinnatireds/entries/2009/06/17/votto_off_to_sarasota_and_some.html

reds1869
06-17-2009, 06:57 PM
Great news, I hope everything goes smoothly for Mr. Votto.

Reds/Flyers Fan
06-17-2009, 06:59 PM
Has anyone wondered if JV may have issues related to a fear of flying? What would happen if a major leaguer just couldn't handle flights?

Tom Servo
06-17-2009, 07:11 PM
Excellent news.


Plus, should he be with the Bats than I may get to see him when they come to Charlotte next week.

westofyou
06-17-2009, 07:55 PM
Has anyone wondered if JV may have issues related to a fear of flying? What would happen if a major leaguer just couldn't handle flights?

Jackie Jensen retired.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jackie_Jensen


Jensen announced his retirement from baseball in January 1960, primarily because of an intense fear of flying but also due to the long separations from his family. He stated, "I have only one life to live, and I'll be happier when I can spend it with my family. Being away from home with a baseball team for seven months a year doesn't represent the kind of life I want or the kind of life my wife and children want." Indeed, upon his trade to the Red Sox in 1953 he considered not reporting to the team in order to return to his family in California, but general manager Joe Cronin increased his salary by $1,000 and he agreed to play. As teams had increasingly turned to air travel in the 1950s, he had unsuccessfully sought to combat his aversion to flying, aided considerably by Red Sox owner Tom Yawkey, who arranged for therapy treatments. Once baseball expanded to the West Coast in 1958, and with further league expansion and constant air travel foreseen, these difficulties became virtually insurmountable. Jensen returned to play in 1961, but turned to hypnotherapy when his panic attacks at airports became unbearable. Frustrated by a sub-par season (.263, 66 RBI), he retired again for good.

Blitz Dorsey
06-17-2009, 08:47 PM
Jeez... if he is able to play at all, no need for a rehab assignment. Fifty percent of Joey Votto is much better than the average 2009 Cincinnati Red when it comes to hitting. I don't want him hitting .400 in the minors; doesn't do us any good. We need him now.

Always Red
06-17-2009, 09:17 PM
Jeez... if he is able to play at all, no need for a rehab assignment. Fifty percent of Joey Votto is much better than the average 2009 Cincinnati Red when it comes to hitting. I don't want him hitting .400 in the minors; doesn't do us any good. We need him now.

My take on it is that the Reds need to see how Joey handles the game, which is why 2 weeks was mentioned. I don't think it's about whether Votto is ready to hit or not- heck when he was dizzy with the inner ear infection he was still the best hitter on the team.

I think it's about how he is going to handle the stress of playing. It's no good to have him back on the roster and then out of the game by the 3rd inning of the 2nd game he plays.

I have a feeling (strictly from how this is being handled and what I know about stress, not from any inside info) that Joey's problems are deeper than some of us think they are.

Patrick Bateman
06-17-2009, 09:44 PM
Jeez... if he is able to play at all, no need for a rehab assignment. Fifty percent of Joey Votto is much better than the average 2009 Cincinnati Red when it comes to hitting. I don't want him hitting .400 in the minors; doesn't do us any good. We need him now.

This would be true if this were a normal injury/circumstance. But I think it's pretty clear that it's the case.

fearofpopvol1
06-17-2009, 09:45 PM
Baker said Votto probably would tell him he is ready quicker than he is actually ready. But not Toronto, “Even though he’d like to play there. But Toronto is Tuesday . You always want to go home, but if he starts Thursday on rehab, that ain’t enough time. I’m thinking, realistically, after this road trip. His legs are going to be sore from running and bending up and down at first base. If everything goes right, probably when we come home. That’s 10 days for him - but it could be sooner.

“I’d rather have him super ready these next three months,” Baker added. “If he calls and says he’s ready, well, for a young man Joey knows himself pretty well. He’s honest.”

I get the sense (and I could be wrong) from these statements that he will be playing in Toronto so long as he doesn't suffer any setbacks on this rehab assignment. I also sense that Dusty is just trying to make sure no additional pressure is on Votto and if something were to go wrong, it could be closer to the end of the month.

reds44
06-17-2009, 11:08 PM
Wierd that he was noticably lighter. Whatever was wrong with him doesn't sound good at all.

KoryMac5
06-17-2009, 11:13 PM
Wierd that he was noticably lighter. Whatever was wrong with him doesn't sound good at all.

When you get stressed out or depressed for a period of time it can have a serious impact on the appetite.

Redmachine2003
06-17-2009, 11:58 PM
Send him to Carolina for his rehab. Let them boys rub shoulders with him so they can stay hungry and maybe impress some higher ups to give them a chance and take the plane ride back to Cincy with him.

jojo
06-18-2009, 12:07 AM
At this point, getting Votto back is just gravy. I just hope that he successfully deals with whatever he is battling right now. First have health and happiness. Then worry about baseball.

I'm rooting for Votto to get healthy like he's batting in the bottom of the 9th with two outs and bases loaded in game seven of the world series

Caveat Emperor
06-18-2009, 12:11 AM
Wierd that he was noticably lighter. Whatever was wrong with him doesn't sound good at all.

And I'd certainly appreciate if the speculation ended at this point -- please respect Boss's request and Joey's wishes to keep the situation private until hard information comes out.

Not singling you out R44; just a warning to the discussion.

Carry on.

cumberlandreds
06-18-2009, 07:42 AM
I get the sense (and I could be wrong) from these statements that he will be playing in Toronto so long as he doesn't suffer any setbacks on this rehab assignment. I also sense that Dusty is just trying to make sure no additional pressure is on Votto and if something were to go wrong, it could be closer to the end of the month.

According to this Dusty seems to think a Toronto return is optimistic. He's saying probably after the road trip to Toronto and Cleveland.

http://sports.yahoo.com/mlb/news;_ylt=AuqBu4Z9RbapTp1reTd8MCK4u7YF?slug=ap-reds-votto&prov=ap&type=lgns

JaxRed
06-18-2009, 07:48 AM
Sarasota Reds have a game tonight and Friday and then 3 days off for All Star break. It's possible he's starting his rehab with the Extended squad guys.

redsmetz
06-18-2009, 08:37 AM
Sarasota Reds have a game tonight and Friday and then 3 days off for All Star break. It's possible he's starting his rehab with the Extended squad guys.

It's more probable that he'll play those two games with Sarasota and then move to either Carolina or Louisville. That's what my guess would be.

redsmetz
06-18-2009, 10:47 AM
I referenced a blog piece (http://www.insidethemajors.com/?p=1054) about the DL and it had this little blurb about Rehab assignments that will come up for Votto:


Perhaps the most important part of the Rehab Assignment is the purchase of the “spread”. It’s a long standing tradition in baseball that a MLB player on rehab must purchase at least one meal for the Minor League team he’s assigned to. A well-heeled player may cater Mortons or the like, while a player making the minimum may go for something a little less expensive…perhaps chicken and ribs. A few years ago, a Jays player with a significant contract went out on a rehab and forgot to buy a meal – word traveled quickly through the organization and when he returned to the Majors he was given grief for several days. Eventually he sent a check to the clubhouse attendant at the affiliate and instructed him to order a meal. It wasn’t Mortons however…

Homer Bailey
06-18-2009, 12:17 PM
Great Votto article:


http://msn.foxsports.com/mlb/story/9696048/Votto-not-alone-in-fight-with-stress-related-issues


Votto not alone in fight with stress-related issuesby Jon Paul Morosi
Jon Paul Morosi is a national MLB writer for FOXSports.com. He previously covered baseball for the Detroit Free Press and Seattle Post-Intelligencer. He began his journalism career at the Bay City Times in his native Michigan.

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Updated: June 18, 2009, 9:25 AM EDT 4 comments CINCINNATI - Joey Votto sat at his locker Wednesday, a leather satchel and big Reds duffel bag at his feet.

"Se fue?" teammate Ramon Hernandez asked.
"Si," Votto replied.

Yes, he was leaving, bound for what optimists believe will be a short, successful stint with Single-A Sarasota of the Florida State League. Soon, everyone hopes, he will be back in the big leagues.


The Reds can't win the NL Central without Joey Votto. He discussed it with Jon Paul Morosi on Wednesday. (Mark Lyons / Getty Images)

When healthy, Votto has been among the majors' top hitters this year. But he was placed on the disabled list May 30 because of stress-related issues. The Reds are 7-10 since.

Yet, two of those wins have come in the past two days, against the foundering Atlanta Braves at Great American Ballpark. Cincinnati stands third in the very winnable National League Central, three games back, thanks in large part to a reliable pitching staff.

"I'm not surprised," Votto said, when asked about his teammates' resilience. "I'm not egotistical. I realize the game keeps going. I expected them to play well."

Votto addressed the team in the clubhouse Tuesday, after the Reds returned from a 2-4 road trip. Veteran Jerry Hairston Jr. said it was "good to see him smiling, being happy."

"More than anything, I'm excited for him to be getting better, period," right fielder Jay Bruce said. "Baseball's kind of on the back burner when you're talking health. On the baseball side, he anchors our lineup. He makes us a better team, offensively and defensively. It'll be exciting to get him back."

Still, the Reds have obvious deficiencies. They illustrated as much Wednesday, even in a 4-3 victory. Their top five batters finished 0-for-17, the lineup totaled four hits and a three-run home run by starting pitcher Micah Owings accounted for most of the offense. They're also playing without All-Star starting pitcher Edinson Volquez and starting third baseman Edwin Encarnacion.

Votto's return, though, could make this a much more formidable outfit. The first baseman was hitting .357 and is still tied for second on the team with 33 RBIs, despite playing in only 38 games.

His absence prompted manager Dusty Baker to move Brandon Phillips from fourth to third in the lineup. Baker has since tried four players in the cleanup spot — most recently Laynce Nix, a career .240 hitter who is on pace to have his finest big-league season.

"Votto was leading the league in hitting when he went down," Baker said. "That's big. He's not a player yet like Albert Pujols, but that's like losing Albert Pujols here. That's the kind of impact player he can become."

Votto said Wednesday that he's not sure when he will return to the active roster. The Reds begin a series Tuesday in Toronto, his hometown; as emotional as a comeback there might be, it may take longer than that for Votto to regain his strength, endurance and pitch recognition.

Votto acknowledged that he hasn't quite felt like his "old self" in two batting practice sessions this week. After all, he hasn't played regularly since early May. He missed four starts then because of the flu, before the words became more alarming: dizziness; inner-ear infection; ultimately, the stress-related issues.


Votto indicated that he plans to share some details about his condition with the public — at a later date. Once that happens, fans will have a deeper understanding of why a budding star had to step away from the game in the midst of what looked like a great individual season.

How will Votto know when he's ready? How well can the Reds expect him to hit when he comes back? His recovery over the coming days may be as difficult to measure as the diagnosis was to make.

This much is clear: Votto knows he has the Reds' support, from owner Bob Castellini, to Baker, to the other players in the clubhouse.

"He's just a great kid," Castellini said Wednesday. "Sooner than later, he'll be back in that lineup. ... Hopefully, it'll be Toronto. ... He's got the whole team pulling for him, all his friends and family. He's a remarkable young man.

"I haven't met anybody who doesn't think the world of him. He's unassuming. He's responsible, talented. His accomplishments, he doesn't take those too seriously. He just keeps trying to be better. He reminds me a lot of Albert Pujols."

Even if Votto hits as well as he did before going on the disabled list — a difficult task — the Reds could benefit from adding another hitter before the July 31 nonwaiver trade deadline.

Their .244 batting average entering Wednesday's game was the fourth-lowest in the majors. Owings may be the best-hitting pitcher in baseball, but that's no excuse for him to have a better average (.278) than all but two other players in the starting lineup. Leadoff man Willy Taveras is hitting .224 and still hasn't figured out how to maximize his speed.

Bruce, last year's rookie sensation, homered Wednesday but is hitting .217. Alex Gonzalez, healthy at last and playing a brilliant shortstop, is nonetheless checking in at .219.


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Top stories | Rumors | Video | Photos "When you get Votto back," Baker said, "you get guys back in the spots where I feel they belong — in the lineup, on the field."

As for the possibility of a trade to improve the offense?

"You always want to add somebody," Baker said. "But do you want to subtract something to add something? Most people you talk to, they want our pitching. That's our strength."

For all their faults, these Reds have a certain charm. The absences of Votto and Encarnacion have forced some players out of position, and the results have been quite respectable. Hernandez, acquired from Baltimore to be the No. 1 catcher, has wowed teammates while subbing for Votto at first.

"He's played as good at first as anybody I've played with," Hairston said, before adding: "He'd better slow (down), or he might end up being a first baseman."

Of course, Hairston was talking about the distant future. The Reds have a first baseman. And he's coming back soon.

HeatherC1212
06-18-2009, 01:16 PM
Fantastic article! Thank you so much for sharing that here. :)

OnBaseMachine
06-18-2009, 01:38 PM
On Votto: He'll play six innings at first base tonight for Florida State League Reds. Sarasota then goes into the FSL All-Star break. But the Reds have a mini-camp going on. Votto can get at-bats in those intrasquad games. He can lead off every inning, in fact. He'll probably stay at Sarasota for a couple of days, then go somewhere else -- Louisville or Carolina.

I was talking to Jeff Brantley. He said the biggest thing for Votto will be getting used to playing on spikes on the hard ground. "That will wear you out," Brantely said.

By the way, Brantley is predicting Votto will play next week in his hometown of Toronto. I think Cleveland is more likely. But you'd think he'd play in one those two series. He can DH after all.

http://news.cincinnati.com/apps/pbcs.dll/section?category=blog07&plckController=Blog&plckScript=blogScript&plckElementId=blogDest&plckBlogPage=BlogViewPost&plckPostId=Blog%3ae57bcc87-152a-4f72-96fb-cc08b1f396efPost%3afd570f31-83c2-4976-a7e2-e5203e722e8f&sid=sitelife.cincinnati.com&GID=JS8EeRpYNAyQJ1MBN3hYwkVmvX8x9ZCEj1AqtqqNiI4%3D

REDREAD
06-18-2009, 02:06 PM
If the Reds go back to scoring 2.3 runs a game this week, why do I think Joey's timeframe could be accelerated a tad?


I don't think it should. I'd love for the team to play 500 this year, but I'm more concerned about Votto's long term health.

The Reds have a history of not taking the time needed to get a player fully healthy. It would be understandable if we were fighting for the pennant, but most of the times, we weren't.

OnBaseMachine
06-18-2009, 09:59 PM
Votto went 0-for-2 with a walk tonight in his first rehab game.

OnBaseMachine
06-19-2009, 05:42 PM
Votto plays again, goes 2-for-4
Posted by TomGroeschen at 6/19/2009 5:11 PM EDT on Cincinnati.com

Joey Votto played another rehab game in Florida today , and Reds manager Dusty Baker heard positive reports.

Baker said he was told Votto went 2-for-4 with a single, double, two walks and three stolen bases. Votto played in what amounted to a scrimmage game with all the Reds’ recently signed 2009 draft picks, who have convened in Sarasota for a brief round of acclimation/training.

“He did pretty good,” Baker said. “The three stolen bases makes me feel good that his legs must be fine.”

Baker said he believed Votto was leaving today for his next round of rehab, which Baker thinks may be in Dayton.

Votto played for the Sarasota Reds in a Florida State League game on Thursday night, going 0-for-2 with a walk. That was the last game for Sarasota before its All-Star break.

How long Votto remains on rehab is unknown. Baker said Votto might not be back until the next homestand begins June 30.

The word from Florida was that Votto also declined to speak with reporters there.

http://news.cincinnati.com/apps/pbcs.dll/section?category=blog07&plckController=Blog&plckScript=blogScript&plckElementId=blogDest&plckBlogPage=BlogViewPost&plckPostId=Blog%3ae57bcc87-152a-4f72-96fb-cc08b1f396efPost%3a2e50af2b-251f-4598-a806-32217782aca6&sid=sitelife.cincinnati.com

GOYA
06-19-2009, 06:31 PM
With Yonder out, it would make a lot more sense to send Votto to Carolina instead of Dayton. I guess nobody said it has to make sense.

Mario-Rijo
06-19-2009, 06:56 PM
With Yonder out, it would make a lot more sense to send Votto to Carolina instead of Dayton. I guess nobody said it has to make sense.

Logan Parker is in Carolina. And Dayton doesn't really have a legit 1B. Besides Dayton could use the help.

BCubb2003
06-20-2009, 12:45 PM
Logan Parker is in Carolina. And Dayton doesn't really have a legit 1B. Besides Dayton could use the help.

I don't suppose it's much of a factor either way. The point is to get Votto back to Cincinnati, not to boost Dayton's lineup in the best way.

GOYA
06-20-2009, 03:56 PM
Votto is listed on Dayton's roster.


The Dragons will host West Michigan at Fifth Third Field at 7:05 p.m. on Saturday. The game will be televised on WHIO Digital Channel 7.2 (Channel 708 on most Time Warner cable systems).

http://web.minorleaguebaseball.com/news/article.jsp?ymd=20090619&content_id=5424624&vkey=news_t459&fext=.jsp&sid=t459

redsfandan
06-20-2009, 07:29 PM
According to the SunDeck, Votto just hit a hr for the Dragons. Nice to see he hasn't lost his stroke.

Caveat Emperor
06-20-2009, 10:32 PM
According to the SunDeck, Votto just hit a hr for the Dragons. Nice to see he hasn't lost his stroke.

And really, if his timing is OK, and he can handle the everyday playing, I don't forsee the rehab stint lasting more than a few days longer.

kaldaniels
06-20-2009, 10:35 PM
And really, if his timing is OK, and he can handle the everyday playing, I don't forsee the rehab stint lasting more than a few days longer.

If I'm the GM, I'm on the phone tonight asking if he wants to make the drive down 75 to be in Sunday's lineup. He's gonna be playing baseball one way or the another...mind as well be helping out the Reds at this point.

Brutus
06-20-2009, 11:08 PM
And really, if his timing is OK, and he can handle the everyday playing, I don't forsee the rehab stint lasting more than a few days longer.

Especially since, based on tonight, it would seem likely the Reds might be without Phillips several days, if not more.