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Red in Chicago
06-21-2009, 12:54 PM
Scott Podsednik 7
Alexei Ramirez 6
A.J. Pierzynski 2
Paul Konerko 3
Brian Anderson 8
Chris Getz 4
Gordon Beckham 5
DeWayne Wise 9
Mark Buehrle LHP

Reds
Willy Taveras 8
Jerry Hairston 6
Brandon Phillips 4
Jonny Gomes 7
Ramon Hernandez 3
Jay Bruce 9
Ryan Hanigan 2
Adam Rosales 5
Aaron Harang RHP

Reds Fanatic
06-21-2009, 02:14 PM
Posednik singles to left

Reds Fanatic
06-21-2009, 02:15 PM
Ramirez singles to right. 1st and 2nd.

Raisor
06-21-2009, 02:18 PM
Aaron not fooling anyone to start the game

Reds Fanatic
06-21-2009, 02:18 PM
Pierzynski lines a single to center. 1-0 White Sox.

Falls City Beer
06-21-2009, 02:18 PM
Harang vs. AL :(

At least he gets to face a pitcher though.

Reds Fanatic
06-21-2009, 02:19 PM
Konerko grounds into a 6-3 DP. 2-0 White Sox.

TheNext44
06-21-2009, 02:19 PM
They really haven't hit the ball that hard, just been finding holes.

Falls City Beer
06-21-2009, 02:20 PM
They really haven't hit the ball that hard, just been finding holes.

Respectfully, that's what they all say....

TheNext44
06-21-2009, 02:20 PM
Taveras gets another bad jump on a bloop double for Anderson.

Reds Fanatic
06-21-2009, 02:20 PM
Anderson doubles as Taveras just misses a diving catch.

Reds Fanatic
06-21-2009, 02:22 PM
Getz strikes out swinging. 2-0 White Sox mid 1st.

Falls City Beer
06-21-2009, 02:23 PM
Another textbook Harang first inning. Now let's see if he can't channel his inner-Smoltz for the next 7 innings against this rag-tag assemblage of hitters.

CTA513
06-21-2009, 02:24 PM
Harang vs. AL :(

At least he gets to face a pitcher though.

Maybe he can do as good as Cueto did yesterday?

TheNext44
06-21-2009, 02:25 PM
Buehrle's given up 12 dingers. Otherwise a very tough pitcher

TheNext44
06-21-2009, 02:25 PM
Buehrle eats up Taveras on three pitches. K

Reds Fanatic
06-21-2009, 02:26 PM
Taveras strikes out swinging. 1 out.

Falls City Beer
06-21-2009, 02:26 PM
Buehrle's given up 12 dingers. Otherwise a very tough pitcher

That's really not that many, especially for the AL.

Reds Fanatic
06-21-2009, 02:26 PM
Hairston flies out to right. 2 outs.

Reds Fanatic
06-21-2009, 02:27 PM
Phillips flies out to left on the first pitch. 2-0 White Sox after 1.

CTA513
06-21-2009, 02:29 PM
7 warm up pitches for Buerhle

TheNext44
06-21-2009, 02:30 PM
That's really not that many, especially for the AL.

Tied for 12th in AL. Guthrie leads the lead with 16. Enough to take notice.

Reds Fanatic
06-21-2009, 02:32 PM
Beckham doubles to center and goes to 3rd on a wild pitch.

TheNext44
06-21-2009, 02:32 PM
Beckham, mad the Reds chose Alonso over him, doubles to start the inning.

Reds Fanatic
06-21-2009, 02:33 PM
Wise hit by the pitch.

TheNext44
06-21-2009, 02:33 PM
Not looking good for the home team.

Reds Fanatic
06-21-2009, 02:34 PM
Buehrle sacrifices the runner to 2nd. 2nd and 3rd with 1 out.

Reds Fanatic
06-21-2009, 02:37 PM
Posednik strikes out swinging. 2 outs.

GADawg
06-21-2009, 02:37 PM
how is it that Grande can pronounce Podsednik but can't pull off "Hairston"?

Falls City Beer
06-21-2009, 02:38 PM
Getting to face a pitcher truly saves this starting staff. Transplant these guys to the AL, and look out...

Reds Fanatic
06-21-2009, 02:38 PM
Hanigan is hurt on the foul ball.

_Sir_Charles_
06-21-2009, 02:39 PM
Hanigan got hit...whether with a ball or a bat I don't know. He looks hurt.

Raisor
06-21-2009, 02:41 PM
Hanigan got whacked in the charlie.

Poor guy.

_Sir_Charles_
06-21-2009, 02:42 PM
Hanigan's fine. Apparently a foul ball to the family jewels. And Harang pulls a houdini. 2-0 Sox after 1 1/2

Reds Fanatic
06-21-2009, 02:42 PM
Ramirez grounds out to 3rd. Good job to get out of that mess. 2-0 White Sox mid 2nd.

Reds Fanatic
06-21-2009, 02:45 PM
Gomes doubles down the left field line.

_Sir_Charles_
06-21-2009, 02:45 PM
Gomes with a lead off double

Reds Fanatic
06-21-2009, 02:46 PM
Hernandez grounds out to short on the first pitch. Gomes goes to 3rd. 1 out.

Reds Fanatic
06-21-2009, 02:48 PM
Bruce walks. 1st and 3rd.

Reds Fanatic
06-21-2009, 02:50 PM
Hanigan flies out to shallow right. 2 outs.

CTA513
06-21-2009, 02:51 PM
The Reds keep showing everyone how to not to get a runner in from 3rd with less than 2 outs.

Tom Servo
06-21-2009, 02:52 PM
And nothing to show for the leadoff double.

Kc61
06-21-2009, 02:53 PM
Just from watching, no stats, but recently Hanigan seems to press with that man on third situation and less then two outs. He has popped up or fanned a number of times recently that I remember.

He's been excellent, but I believe it's an area for improvement.

Falls City Beer
06-21-2009, 02:55 PM
Buerhle's a bear. Were he pitching in the NL, he'd be an unequivocal ace. Harang's and Buerhle's ERA's look similar, but that's where the similarities stop.

And it's not that the Sox's offense is any good; they've scored fewer runs than the Reds (though probably not after today).

Reds Fanatic
06-21-2009, 02:56 PM
Pierzynski grounds out to 1st.
Konerko strikes out swinging. 2 outs.

CTA513
06-21-2009, 02:57 PM
Buerhle's a bear. Were he pitching in the NL, he'd be an unequivocal ace. Harang's and Buerhle's ERA's look similar, but that's where the similarities stop.

And it's not that the Sox's offense is any good; they've scored fewer runs than the Reds (though probably not after today).

What does that say about Cueto who blew a 5 run lead to the White Sox?

Falls City Beer
06-21-2009, 02:58 PM
What does that say about Cueto who blew a 5 run lead to the White Sox?

I don't expect a 24 year old to maintain a sub 3.00 ERA for 6 months?

Tony Cloninger
06-21-2009, 02:59 PM
So Harang has no heart or cajones then? What is your problem with Harang please?

Is it that hard to get a runner in from 3rd with less than 2 outs? Why can't these guys just relax and do it? They are no better than the same guys who the announcers and press would say about Dunn in 04-06. Where are all those sacrifice flies that these contact hitters are supposed to drive in?

Reds Fanatic
06-21-2009, 03:00 PM
Anderson strikes out looking. 2-0 White Sox mid 3rd.

Falls City Beer
06-21-2009, 03:01 PM
So Harang has no heart or cajones then? What is your problem with Harang please?

Is it that hard to get a runner in from 3rd with less than 2 outs? Why can't these guys just relax and do it? They are no better than the same guys who the announcers and press would say about Dunn in 04-06. Where are all those sacrifice flies that these contact hitters are supposed to drive in?

No heart? Doubt it. Not sure what his problem's been. My guess is that he's getting a little older.

Reds Fanatic
06-21-2009, 03:01 PM
Harang grounds out to 3rd. 1 out.

_Sir_Charles_
06-21-2009, 03:02 PM
So Harang has no heart or cajones then? What is your problem with Harang please?

Is it that hard to get a runner in from 3rd with less than 2 outs? Why can't these guys just relax and do it? They are no better than the same guys who the announcers and press would say about Dunn in 04-06. Where are all those sacrifice flies that these contact hitters are supposed to drive in?

Well, I disagree with the getting down on Harang. He's not your traditional ace, but he's certainly one of the best #2's out there.

As for the last inning...remember we're talking about 2 rookies here guys.

Reds Fanatic
06-21-2009, 03:05 PM
Taveras strikes out swinging. 2 outs.

Reds Fanatic
06-21-2009, 03:06 PM
Hairston lines a single to left.

_Sir_Charles_
06-21-2009, 03:06 PM
2 out single to left for Hairston

Kc61
06-21-2009, 03:07 PM
Taveras had a ten pitch at bat before the strikeout. Well, it's something.

Hairston, who is hitting better last few days, singles to left.

Now maybe Phillips can do something. No. Inning over.

Reds Fanatic
06-21-2009, 03:08 PM
Phillips flies out to right. 2-0 White Sox after 3.

Reds Fanatic
06-21-2009, 03:10 PM
Getz bunts and is thrown out by Hanigan.

Reds Fanatic
06-21-2009, 03:10 PM
Beckham with a bloop single to left.

Tony Cloninger
06-21-2009, 03:11 PM
Game plan for some seems to be....swing early ...then the others are taking pitches. Whenever Phillips starts NOT working the count is when he starts to not hit.

Reds Fanatic
06-21-2009, 03:13 PM
Wise fouls out to 3rd.

Reds Fanatic
06-21-2009, 03:15 PM
Buehrle strikes out swinging. 2-0 White Sox mid 4th.

Reds Fanatic
06-21-2009, 03:18 PM
Gomes flies out to center. 1 out.

Reds Fanatic
06-21-2009, 03:19 PM
Hernandez grounds out to 3rd. 2 outs.

nate
06-21-2009, 03:21 PM
Bruce needs Jobu.

Reds Fanatic
06-21-2009, 03:21 PM
Bruce grounds out to 2nd. 2-0 White Sox after 4.

JaxRed
06-21-2009, 03:25 PM
George needs to study his Cliff Notes a little better if he's going to make literary quotes.

Reds Fanatic
06-21-2009, 03:25 PM
Posednik reaches on an infield hit.

BCubb2003
06-21-2009, 03:25 PM
George needs to study his Cliff Notes a little better if he's going to make literary quotes.

What did he say?

CTA513
06-21-2009, 03:26 PM
Another ball not hit hard that goes for a hit.

Reds Fanatic
06-21-2009, 03:28 PM
Ramirez flies out to center. 1 out.

Reds Fanatic
06-21-2009, 03:32 PM
Pierzynski grounds out to 3rd. Runner goes to 2nd. 2 outs.

JaxRed
06-21-2009, 03:33 PM
What did he say?

Atributed a Dickens quote to Dostoevsky

Reds Fanatic
06-21-2009, 03:34 PM
Konerko singles up the middle just off the glove of Phillips. 3-0 White Sox.

CTA513
06-21-2009, 03:36 PM
The offense might want to show up.

Tony Cloninger
06-21-2009, 03:36 PM
Would have been a great play if BP makes that stop and throws out the slow running Konerko. Cemented another GG for him basically.

Reds Fanatic
06-21-2009, 03:36 PM
Anderson strikes out swinging. 3-0 White Sox mid 5th.

Reds Fanatic
06-21-2009, 03:40 PM
Hanigan singles to center.

RedsManRick
06-21-2009, 03:41 PM
Hanigan really needs to be pushed up in the order. He's not going to drive in many runs due to his lack of power and his OBP is a real waste. If Taveras is in the game, he should be batting eigth and Hanigan lead off.

Reds Fanatic
06-21-2009, 03:42 PM
Rosales grounds into a 5-4 FC. 1 out.

Reds Fanatic
06-21-2009, 03:42 PM
Harang attempts a bunt and it ends up a 1-6 FC. 2 outs.

Raisor
06-21-2009, 03:43 PM
Hanigan really needs to be pushed up in the order. He's not going to drive in many runs due to his lack of power and his OBP is a real waste. If Taveras is in the game, he should be batting eigth and Hanigan lead off.

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Kc61
06-21-2009, 03:45 PM
Hanigan really needs to be pushed up in the order. He's not going to drive in many runs due to his lack of power and his OBP is a real waste. If Taveras is in the game, he should be batting eigth and Hanigan lead off.

Hanigan should lead off or bat second. He is purely an OBP guys these days.
He also needs to hit the fly ball with a man on third.

Reds Fanatic
06-21-2009, 03:45 PM
Taveras grounds out to 3rd. 3-0 White Sox after 5.

Reds Fanatic
06-21-2009, 03:48 PM
Getz lines out to right. 1 out.

Reds Fanatic
06-21-2009, 03:50 PM
Beckham strikes out swinging. 7 Ks for Harang. 2 outs.

Reds Fanatic
06-21-2009, 03:52 PM
Wise flies out to center. 3-0 White Sox mid 6th.

Reds Fanatic
06-21-2009, 03:54 PM
Hairston attempts a bunt and grounds right back to Buehrle. 1 out.

Reds Fanatic
06-21-2009, 03:56 PM
Phillips grounds out to 2nd. 2 outs.

jojo
06-21-2009, 03:56 PM
Hairston just cursed after being thrown out..... does that nullify his grit factor on that bunt or enhance it?

Red in Chicago
06-21-2009, 03:57 PM
Hairston just cursed after being thrown out..... does that nullify his grit factor on that bunt or enhance it?

He pretty much does that every time he makes an out.

Reds Fanatic
06-21-2009, 03:57 PM
Gomes singles to left.

Falls City Beer
06-21-2009, 03:58 PM
Buehrle's pretty much exactly the pitcher the Reds need. Groundball lefty ace.

jojo
06-21-2009, 03:58 PM
He pretty much does that every time he makes an out.

Wow, the cuss jar is gonna pay off the mortgage.... :cool:

Reds Fanatic
06-21-2009, 04:00 PM
Hernandez just chased a low outside pitch and grounds into a 4-6 FC. 3-0 White Sox after 6.

jojo
06-21-2009, 04:01 PM
Buehrle's pretty much exactly the pitcher the Reds need. Groundball lefty ace.

Buehre is locked up but the Reds can bid for an even better lefty this off season.

_Sir_Charles_
06-21-2009, 04:02 PM
Buehre is locked up but the Reds can bid for an even better lefty this off season.

Too lazy to look it up. Who are you referring to?

Tony Cloninger
06-21-2009, 04:03 PM
If you are going to swing at that slow outside junk...then give it a rip and don't half-A it! :D

Reds Fanatic
06-21-2009, 04:03 PM
Buerhle grounds out to Harang. 1 out.

Reds Fanatic
06-21-2009, 04:04 PM
Posednik flies out to right. 2 outs.

_Sir_Charles_
06-21-2009, 04:05 PM
Although he's down 3-0, Harang really hasn't throw too bad at all. No walks, 7 k's. After that first inning he's settled down nicely.

Not quite sure what it is with Reds' starters and the first inning, but they definitely don't mix well.

Falls City Beer
06-21-2009, 04:05 PM
Buehre is locked up but the Reds can bid for an even better lefty this off season.

FA? That's not going to happen.

Reds Fanatic
06-21-2009, 04:05 PM
Ramirez lines out to left. 3-0 White Sox mid 7th.

Reds Fanatic
06-21-2009, 04:06 PM
97 pitches for Harang.

jojo
06-21-2009, 04:06 PM
Too lazy to look it up. Who are you referring to?

Eric Bedard.

Reds Fanatic
06-21-2009, 04:09 PM
Bloop single to left for Bruce.

_Sir_Charles_
06-21-2009, 04:10 PM
Eric Bedard.

Oh, I was thinking Cliff Lee. He's a lefty too, correct?

Reds Fanatic
06-21-2009, 04:12 PM
Hanigan flies out to left.

_Sir_Charles_
06-21-2009, 04:12 PM
Rosales bunts Bruce over.

Reds Fanatic
06-21-2009, 04:13 PM
I don't really agree with bunting there for the 2nd out of the inning when you are down 3 in the 7th.

_Sir_Charles_
06-21-2009, 04:13 PM
Micah PH'ing

_Sir_Charles_
06-21-2009, 04:14 PM
I don't really agree with bunting there for the 2nd out of the inning when you are down 3 in the 7th.

ditto

mth123
06-21-2009, 04:15 PM
I don't really agree with bunting there for the 2nd out of the inning when you are down 3 in the 7th.

Amen. Its plain stupid.

Reds Fanatic
06-21-2009, 04:15 PM
Owings strikes out swinging. 3-0 White Sox after 7.

_Sir_Charles_
06-21-2009, 04:16 PM
I guess it's possible that Rosales was trying to bunt for a hit there on his own (I'm listening...did he show bunt early?). Still a bad idea though.

Reds Fanatic
06-21-2009, 04:18 PM
Masset in to pitch

Reds Fanatic
06-21-2009, 04:19 PM
Pierzynski flies out to the wall in right. 1 out.

nate
06-21-2009, 04:20 PM
Nice throw by Rosales on the outfield grass to get Konerko.

Reds Fanatic
06-21-2009, 04:20 PM
Konerko grounds out to 3rd. 2 outs.

nate
06-21-2009, 04:20 PM
And there's a nice diving catch and throw out by Rosales to end the inning.

_Sir_Charles_
06-21-2009, 04:20 PM
Rosales is struggling with the stick, but his defense has been quite good.

Reds Fanatic
06-21-2009, 04:20 PM
Another nice play by Rosales to end the inning. 3-0 White Sox mid 8th.

CTA513
06-21-2009, 04:21 PM
Although he's down 3-0, Harang really hasn't throw too bad at all. No walks, 7 k's. After that first inning he's settled down nicely.

Not quite sure what it is with Reds' starters and the first inning, but they definitely don't mix well.

Overall not a bad game but its impossible to win a game when you score 0 runs.
Could have used a performance like this last night.

RedsManRick
06-21-2009, 04:21 PM
After holding my breath for so long with EE's throws, it's nice to see Rosales' accurate cannon. If only he could hit like EE...

nate
06-21-2009, 04:22 PM
After holding my breath for so long with EE's throws, it's nice to see Rosales' accurate cannon. If only he could hit like EE...

Maybe we could combine EE and Rosales like Scotty combined the good Kirk and bad Kirk on that one episode of Star Trek.

_Sir_Charles_
06-21-2009, 04:22 PM
Linebrink in to pitch.

_Sir_Charles_
06-21-2009, 04:23 PM
Maybe we could combine EE and Rosales like Scotty combined the good Kirk and bad Kirk on that one episode of Star Trek.

I'm giving her all I've got, Dusty!

Reds Fanatic
06-21-2009, 04:23 PM
Scott Linebrink in to pitch.
Dickerson hitting for Taveras.
Dickerson singles to center.

nate
06-21-2009, 04:24 PM
its impossible to win a game when you score 0 runs.



its impossible to win a game when you score 0 runs.



its impossible to win a game when you score 0 runs.



its impossible to win a game when you score 0 runs.



its impossible to win a game when you score 0 runs.

Yes.

mth123
06-21-2009, 04:25 PM
Scott Linebrink in to pitch.
Dickerson hitting for Taveras.
Dickerson singles to center.

Dusty puts Dickerson in against the righty. Maybe he'll platoon from now on. If so, its a silver lining in this game.

CTA513
06-21-2009, 04:25 PM
Dickerson up to .341 this month and .271 on the season.

_Sir_Charles_
06-21-2009, 04:26 PM
Dickerson: Past 4 games....

6 for last 8. 2 doubles. 0 k's. 2 sb.

Nah, no reason to play him more.

Ummm....make that 3 sb's. and 7 for last 9.

nate
06-21-2009, 04:28 PM
Nice AB by HARRISTON so far.

Chriserson steals 2nd.

Reds Fanatic
06-21-2009, 04:28 PM
Dickerson steals 2nd.

Tony Cloninger
06-21-2009, 04:28 PM
Kudos to Dusty for finally realizing that WT needs to be PH for more often.

Pull a Dan Driessen PH for John Vuckovich in the 2nd inning if you have to.

mth123
06-21-2009, 04:30 PM
Dickerson steals 2nd.

Glad he was safe, but its an unnecessary risk down three in the 8th IMO.

nate
06-21-2009, 04:30 PM
HARRISTON works an 11 pitch walk.

Excellent AB.

Reds Fanatic
06-21-2009, 04:30 PM
Great AB. Hairston walks on an 11 pitch AB.

Tony Cloninger
06-21-2009, 04:30 PM
JHJ should do that and can do that more often.

nate
06-21-2009, 04:30 PM
BP up no outs and guys on 1st and 2nd.

Reds Fanatic
06-21-2009, 04:31 PM
Wild pitch moves Dickerson to 3rd. 1st and 3rd.

nate
06-21-2009, 04:31 PM
Dickerson takes 3rd as the catcher drops the ball.

Reds Fanatic
06-21-2009, 04:33 PM
Phillips sac fly to right. 3-1 White Sox.

nate
06-21-2009, 04:33 PM
Ah, BP just a bit short. Sac fly to RF, Chriserson scores. 3-1 Sox.

_Sir_Charles_
06-21-2009, 04:33 PM
Brandon drives one to the warning track in right that scores Dickerson.

nate
06-21-2009, 04:35 PM
Gomes HBP.

Reds Fanatic
06-21-2009, 04:35 PM
Gomes hit by the pitch. 1st and 2nd.

_Sir_Charles_
06-21-2009, 04:35 PM
Gomes HBP

mth123
06-21-2009, 04:36 PM
I'd go to Nix here.

Reds Fanatic
06-21-2009, 04:37 PM
Hernandez hits it hard but lines into a 6-4 DP. 3-1 White Sox after 8.

mth123
06-21-2009, 04:37 PM
Well he hit it hard anyway.

_Sir_Charles_
06-21-2009, 04:37 PM
Brewers lost 2-3 to the Tigers
Houston up 3-1 over Twins bottom 6th
Top 4th: Cards 9 / Royals 4
Pirates up 1-0 in the first
Cubs up 2-0 in the fifth.

Ramon lines into a DP as Hairston caught off 2nd.

nate
06-21-2009, 04:37 PM
Oh man...that is a bummer.

Ramon, laser liner to SS, Hairston doubled up.

Tony Cloninger
06-21-2009, 04:39 PM
JHJ was not napping....he broke beacuse it looked high enough to go through....he had a big lead to begin with already and it was a good play.

Bad hitting and then bad luck= priceless

nate
06-21-2009, 04:40 PM
JHJ was not napping....he broke beacuse it looked high enough to go through....he had a big lead to begin with already and it was a good play.

Bad hitting and then bad luck= priceless

Yeah, I didn't think it was a bad play by Hairston either.

Reds Fanatic
06-21-2009, 04:42 PM
Getz grounds out to 2nd. 1 out.

_Sir_Charles_
06-21-2009, 04:42 PM
Yeah, I didn't think it was a bad play by Hairston either.

Sorry, I changed it as soon as I typed it. I just meant he was caught off second...napping made it sound worse.

Reds Fanatic
06-21-2009, 04:44 PM
Beckham walks.

Reds Fanatic
06-21-2009, 04:44 PM
Wise doubles. 4-1 White Sox.

I have to leave if anyone else wants to do updates.

WVRedsFan
06-21-2009, 04:45 PM
Massett has been really hittable lately.

nate
06-21-2009, 04:46 PM
Dewayne Wise? Really?

Is the league just catching up with Masset? He's been pretty bad ever since FCB deemed him an elite reliever.

I wonder if the two are related!

:cool:

CTA513
06-21-2009, 04:46 PM
Masset has been good at giving up runs lately.

nate
06-21-2009, 04:47 PM
Dr. H in for Masset.

_Sir_Charles_
06-21-2009, 04:48 PM
4 past outtings he's given up a run. And even with that, his ERA is still under 2.00. I'm not going to harp on Masset too much. He's been VERY good overall. Just a tough week.

WVRedsFan
06-21-2009, 04:48 PM
Dewayne Wise? Really?

Is the league just catching up with Masset? He's been pretty bad ever since FCB deemed him an elite reliever.

I wonder if the two are related!

:cool:Nah, he's been knocked around by everyone lately. He's not an elite reliever. If he had been, we wouldn't have got him from the Sox in the Griffey trade.

nate
06-21-2009, 04:49 PM
Thome. Thome, Thome grounds into an FC 6-3 (I think). Wise to 3rd.

_Sir_Charles_
06-21-2009, 04:50 PM
Cubs & Cards bats are coming alive. 11 runs for the Cards by the 4th. Cubs with 6 by the 5th with the bases jacked.

Cards with 10, 7 and now 11 runs in the Royals series
Cubs with 6, 8, 6 and now 6 in thier past 4.

I think the Cubs are poised to go on a monster run here shortly.

nate
06-21-2009, 04:51 PM
Podsensnicknenenq grounds out 6-3.

nate
06-21-2009, 04:53 PM
Jenks to pitch the ninth for the Sox.

Tony Cloninger
06-21-2009, 04:54 PM
No one can have a bad stretch without the old "He really is not that good anyways" talk......so okay...he is not elite, he is good and has the stuff to be more than a mop up guy.

nate
06-21-2009, 04:56 PM
Two quick ground outs by Bruce and Hanigan leaves the Reds' fate in the hands of Danny Richar.

BCubb2003
06-21-2009, 04:56 PM
Podsensnicknenenq grounds out 6-3.

You mispelled Podsyaztremkiewicz

WVRedsFan
06-21-2009, 04:56 PM
Reds 8 runs last night will make it look like they had a decent offensive series. 13 runs and 31 hits. That averages out to 4 runs and 10 hits per game, but...

Richar the last hope. Not much of one.

nate
06-21-2009, 04:56 PM
Richar imitates Bruce and Hanigan. Game, set, match.

CTA513
06-21-2009, 04:57 PM
Reds lose 4-1

Sorry Harang you needed to pitch a shut out to have a chance to win.

WVRedsFan
06-21-2009, 04:59 PM
No one can have a bad stretch without the old "He really is not that good anyways" talk......so okay...he is not elite, he is good and has the stuff to be more than a mop up guy.Probably has a lot to do with over work?

Regardless, he's allowed a run in his last four appearances. Stuff's good, but missing bats is better.

WVRedsFan
06-21-2009, 05:00 PM
Reds lose 4-1

Sorry Harang you needed to pitch a shut out to have a chance to win.Unfortunately, that's more often the case than not.

Tony Cloninger
06-21-2009, 05:31 PM
Overworked lately? Maybe. That's what happens when you start doing god....you get more work. People kept asking ...why not Masset instead of Weathers? Well now more Masset means he is going to get tired or over exposed. Soon it will be...why not more Josh instead of Masset?

Falls City Beer
06-21-2009, 05:40 PM
Cubs & Cards bats are coming alive. 11 runs for the Cards by the 4th. Cubs with 6 by the 5th with the bases jacked.

Cards with 10, 7 and now 11 runs in the Royals series
Cubs with 6, 8, 6 and now 6 in thier past 4.

I think the Cubs are poised to go on a monster run here shortly.

Lots of teams ready to leave the Reds in the dust, healthy or not.

I think the Brewers are probably on the elevator down with the Reds. Their pitching is coming apart at the seams.

WVRedsFan
06-21-2009, 06:01 PM
Overworked lately? Maybe. That's what happens when you start doing god....you get more work. People kept asking ...why not Masset instead of Weathers? Well now more Masset means he is going to get tired or over exposed. Soon it will be...why not more Josh instead of Masset?
Truth. He needs a break, but most managers wear the hot pitcher out.

Ah well, it didn't make any difference anyway. I really hate it for Harang. Best years of his career and no run support. I'd bet he'll be looking elsewhere come contract time.

traderumor
06-22-2009, 10:18 AM
Lots of teams ready to leave the Reds in the dust, healthy or not.

I think the Brewers are probably on the elevator down with the Reds. Their pitching is coming apart at the seams.You predicted the same thing back on May 6 after the Brewers kicked our butts at GAB. Here were are on June 22 and they are still hanging around. Sort of like the weather man predicting 50% chance of rain every day.

Falls City Beer
06-22-2009, 12:56 PM
You predicted the same thing back on May 6 after the Brewers kicked our butts at GAB. Here were are on June 22 and they are still hanging around. Sort of like the weather man predicting 50% chance of rain every day.

It's been trending badly for a few weeks (for both the Reds and the Brewers). When the only hope is a gimpy Volquez and Votto, and the number of teams ahead of you in the division and wild card grows every day, the prognosis gets darker. That's not meteorology; it's plate tectonics.

It's trending very, very nicely for the Cubs and Cardinals, the latter of whom is going volcanic on offense.

jojo
06-22-2009, 01:15 PM
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traderumor
06-22-2009, 02:23 PM
It's been trending badly for a few weeks (for both the Reds and the Brewers). When the only hope is a gimpy Volquez and Votto, and the number of teams ahead of you in the division and wild card grows every day, the prognosis gets darker. That's not meteorology; it's plate tectonics.

It's trending very, very nicely for the Cubs and Cardinals, the latter of whom is going volcanic on offense.I think you are making too much of short-term hot streaks and continuing to hedge your bets with the Reds.

Falls City Beer
06-22-2009, 02:27 PM
I think you are making too much of short-term hot streaks and continuing to hedge your bets with the Reds.

Well, I guess by virtue of the fact that I predicted a .500 season, it's always going to look like I'm hedging a bit. It'll likely plateau some when Votto and Volquez return.

traderumor
06-22-2009, 02:44 PM
Well, I guess by virtue of the fact that I predicted a .500 season, it's always going to look like I'm hedging a bit. It'll likely plateau some when Votto and Volquez return.You said leave the Reds in the dust. That implied to me that the Reds would only get worse, record wise, from here. Perhaps we're on opposite side of assumptions. I don't see anyone taking off in this division, so .500 will always keep the Reds a long winning streak away from sneaking up on the field.

Falls City Beer
06-22-2009, 03:08 PM
You said leave the Reds in the dust. That implied to me that the Reds would only get worse, record wise, from here. Perhaps we're on opposite side of assumptions. I don't see anyone taking off in this division, so .500 will always keep the Reds a long winning streak away from sneaking up on the field.

Not necessarily. I just happen to disagree. I think both the Cards (with their offense) and the Cubs (with their pitching) were poised to be bears coming out of the gate; they stumbled, but they're finding their footing.

The Reds looked like a .500 squad and I think that's the tier they're settling into.

traderumor
06-22-2009, 03:17 PM
Not necessarily. I just happen to disagree. I think both the Cards (with their offense) and the Cubs (with their pitching) were poised to be bears coming out of the gate; they stumbled, but they're finding their footing.

The Reds looked like a .500 squad and I think that's the tier they're settling into.The Cards offense has been inconsistent, and I think that is going to continue. The Cubs are the Cubs.