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Red in Chicago
07-09-2009, 07:52 PM
Cincinnati
W. Taveras cf
C. Dickerson rf
J. Votto 1b
B. Phillips 2b
R. Hernandez c
J. Gomes lf
E. Encarnacion 3b
P. Janish ss
M. Owings p

Philadelphia
J. Rollins ss
S. Victorino cf
C. Utley 2b
R. Howard 1b
J. Werth rf
G. Dobbs lf
P. Feliz 3b
C. Ruiz c
J. Moyer p

SirFelixCat
07-09-2009, 08:03 PM
Good to see Dickerson still in there.

I have a feeling we either destroy Moyer or he no hits us.

SirFelixCat
07-09-2009, 08:07 PM
Willy T crushes the ball about 130ft deep :rolleyes: and about a mile high.

Shocker, but 1 up, 1 down.

SirFelixCat
07-09-2009, 08:08 PM
CD takes the first pitch the other way just short of the warning track, 2 down.

nate
07-09-2009, 08:08 PM
Chat is open.

SirFelixCat
07-09-2009, 08:10 PM
Votto singles thru the shift (why are they shifting???) just to the 1b side of 2nd base for a single. 2 out, 1 on.

SirFelixCat
07-09-2009, 08:12 PM
BP working the count...


Takes the 2-1 pitch and pops it a mile high to the catcher in foul ground. That's that

Thru 0-5, 0-0.

SirFelixCat
07-09-2009, 08:16 PM
Rollins does his best Willy T impression and pops it up a mile high about 45' in down the 3b line. Easy F-5. 1 down.

SirFelixCat
07-09-2009, 08:17 PM
Shane "My team jammed the ballot box for me" Victorino draws a BB.

SirFelixCat
07-09-2009, 08:18 PM
Utley lines a single over BP's head and SV goes 1st to 3rd. 1 out, men at the corners.

SirFelixCat
07-09-2009, 08:21 PM
And....Howard walks.

Loaded for Werth.


Walks will haunt....

TheNext44
07-09-2009, 08:23 PM
Whew...

That could have been ugly.

SirFelixCat
07-09-2009, 08:24 PM
Werth takes the 2-2 pitch and flies out to RCF...there is a near collision between WT and CD, but CD takes it and uses his howitzer to hold Shane at 3b. 2 outs.


Willy T should always defer to CD imo w/ his lack of an arm.

SirFelixCat
07-09-2009, 08:25 PM
Dobbs grounds out to Votto for the 3-1 GO.


thru 1, 0-0.

GJ Micah getting out of it!

nate
07-09-2009, 08:25 PM
Whew...

That could have been ugly.

In more ways than one!

SirFelixCat
07-09-2009, 08:25 PM
Thru 1 inning, 1 hit apiece

Moyer: 13-9
Owings: 24-12

SirFelixCat
07-09-2009, 08:28 PM
All the Reds are trying to kill the ball, popping it up a mile high. Razor Ramon follows suit, but, by the grace of something, it fades into the crowd.

SirFelixCat
07-09-2009, 08:30 PM
After falling behind 1-2, Razor draws a BB. Nice AB, minus the overswinging part.

SirFelixCat
07-09-2009, 08:31 PM
Gomes takes the first pitch and loops a single in between 3b and LF. Men at 1 & 2, 0 out for EdE.

SirFelixCat
07-09-2009, 08:33 PM
EdE takes a reeeeeeeeeal close 2-2 pitch to get the count full....


Then drills it deep!

Off the wall in straight away CF for a triple!

Both runners score and the good guys are up 2-0, w/ EdE on 3b and no outs!

CTA513
07-09-2009, 08:33 PM
EdE takes a reeeeeeeeeal close 2-2 pitch to get the count full....


Then drills it deep!

Off the wall in straight away CF for a triple!


Just missed hitting a 3 run homer.

SirFelixCat
07-09-2009, 08:34 PM
Janish, just like most the other Reds, pops up harmlessly...F-6. *sigh* 1 out

SirFelixCat
07-09-2009, 08:34 PM
Owings facing Moyer...I like Owings here.

SirFelixCat
07-09-2009, 08:35 PM
Moyer is not close vs Owings thus far. 2-0 count.

Then swings at one up around his shoulders and misses. I felt the wind from that here in Vegas.

2-1 count...

He drills the next pitch on a rope to LF but EdE tags and scores fairly easily!

3-0 good guys and a great AB by Micah! :thumbup:

SirFelixCat
07-09-2009, 08:37 PM
Moyer appeals to 3b and the call...








SAFE! he didn't leave early. The run counts!


(and all of a sudden, I feel like I'm doing pbp in OOTP Baseball. lol)

SirFelixCat
07-09-2009, 08:39 PM
Willy T doesn't quite reach the same distance as he did in the 1st inning with his mile-high pop up. This one only goes about 100'. And the black hole continues that is WillyT playing CF and batting leadoff.

But the rest of the team not named Janish helps out and get the good guys a 3-0 lead heading into the bottom of the 2nd!

SirFelixCat
07-09-2009, 08:41 PM
Feliz doesn't stay long. 3 pitches and he gone!

1 down.

SirFelixCat
07-09-2009, 08:42 PM
Ruiz smokes the first pitch on a line to DEEP CF, but Willy T got a great jump on it and catches it on the run over his shoulder!

Nice catch/reaction by WillyT.

2 down!

SirFelixCat
07-09-2009, 08:43 PM
Little grounder from Moyer to 2b for a 4-3 ground out.

That's that!

Thru 2, 3-0 Redlegs!

SirFelixCat
07-09-2009, 08:44 PM
Pitch update (Thru 2 innings):

Moyer 40-25
Owings 32-18

SirFelixCat
07-09-2009, 08:46 PM
CD grounds out pretty uneventfully to "Sir Albert" for the first out. 1 down.

Red in Chicago
07-09-2009, 08:47 PM
Why aren't the Nats part of the text poll:laugh::laugh:

SirFelixCat
07-09-2009, 08:48 PM
Votto grounds pretty sharply down the 1B line, but Howard was stationed right on the line and it's an easy 3-1 ground out. Good positioning by Howard there. Else that's an easy double.

2 outs.

SirFelixCat
07-09-2009, 08:49 PM
BP lifts the first pitch down near the RF corner, but Werth is there and makes the grab. That's it for the Reds in the 3rd.

SirFelixCat
07-09-2009, 08:52 PM
Rollins takes the 2-1 pitch and grounds out to Votto, unassisted. 1 out.

SirFelixCat
07-09-2009, 08:53 PM
Victorino takes the 0-1 pitch and grounds out to 2nd, 4-3GO. 2 down!

SirFelixCat
07-09-2009, 08:56 PM
Ok Willy T is an idiot. There simply is no excuse nor any reason to do what he just did.

Red in Chicago
07-09-2009, 08:56 PM
Why is George so excited about this?

klw
07-09-2009, 08:56 PM
Ok Willy T is an idiot. There simply is no excuse nor any reason to do what he just did.

What did he do?

BCubb2003
07-09-2009, 08:57 PM
That outfield wall is like a miniature golf windmill.

Big Klu
07-09-2009, 08:58 PM
Why is George so excited about this?

Can George possibly get any more excited than that? Albert is going to get upset at all the affection that George is showing Victorino and Utley.

oneupper
07-09-2009, 08:58 PM
Where was Dickerson?

nate
07-09-2009, 08:58 PM
Stand up inside the park HR by Utley.

Wow...just...wow.

Howard with a double.

SirFelixCat
07-09-2009, 08:58 PM
Utley takes a pitch and drills it off the wall in LCF...about 15+ feet up and Willy T decides to run all the way to the wall, I guess expecting it to hit the wall and fall straight down?!?!


Instead, it, as physics dictates, bounces off the wall and Utley easily w/ an Inside the park HR.


Then Howard torches one into RCF for a double.

There is just no excuse for the idiot positioning by WillyT. You have to know it's going to bounce off the wall, so wtf do you run right up to the wall, time after time? Not the first times he's done it. Just use common sense!

Big Klu
07-09-2009, 08:59 PM
Where was Dickerson?

Coming over to back up the CF like he should, but the ball took a funky bounce off the wall, and bounced directly to RF where Chris would have been if he hadn't done what he was supposed to do.

SirFelixCat
07-09-2009, 09:01 PM
Yes it took a screwy bounce, but Willy has to realize that running all the way to the wall is not the way to play the field. He has to stand a handful of paces away from the wall and play the bounce. I mean, they teach this stuff. I just don't understand his lack of using his head.

Just dumb.

SirFelixCat
07-09-2009, 09:02 PM
And another double gets the Phils w/i 1 run. 2 outs, man on 2nd, Dobbs up.

membengal
07-09-2009, 09:02 PM
Why is George so excited about this?

I just asked that in chat as well. His genuine excitement over the other team's achievements on a regular basis is beyond annoying. It has crossed over to insulting.

nate
07-09-2009, 09:05 PM
I just asked that in chat as well. His genuine excitement over the other team's achievements on a regular basis is beyond annoying. It has crossed over to insulting.

The Reds have been on the receiving end of a few rare baseball events this season!

:cool:

SirFelixCat
07-09-2009, 09:05 PM
Dobbs flies out to CF.

Thru 3, 3-2 Reds.


And George Grande needs to go away. Badly.

Big Klu
07-09-2009, 09:08 PM
Yes it took a screwy bounce, but Willy has to realize that running all the way to the wall is not the way to play the field. He has to stand a handful of paces away from the wall and play the bounce. I mean, they teach this stuff. I just don't understand his lack of using his head.

Just dumb.

I absolutely agree. I have been far more patient than most, but I have seen enough of Willy Taveras in CF. he has been a disappointment both offensively and defensively.

SirFelixCat
07-09-2009, 09:13 PM
EdE doing a little yardwork!!!

4-2 Reds!

Big Klu
07-09-2009, 09:13 PM
Edwin hits a homer, but George isn't nearly as excited.

redsmetz
07-09-2009, 09:20 PM
Feliz grounds to EE who throws a strike to Votto.

Tom Servo
07-09-2009, 09:21 PM
Looks like he was out.

redsmetz
07-09-2009, 09:21 PM
Looks like he was out.

That's what Brantley is saying, that Ruiz was out. But he's on first.

Big Klu
07-09-2009, 09:21 PM
How many more calls are they going to miss?

SirFelixCat
07-09-2009, 09:22 PM
OMG this umpiring crew is lol bad. This whole series has been horrible!

redsmetz
07-09-2009, 09:26 PM
Moyer bunted the runner to second. Rollins singled, Ruiz held at third. Utley up.

SirFelixCat
07-09-2009, 09:26 PM
Moyer sacrifices. Runner on 2nd, 2 outs.


Then Rollins with a shot hard on a line to RF, but Ruiz wisely holds at 3b. Men at the corners, 2 outs.

SirFelixCat
07-09-2009, 09:28 PM
Rollins steals 2nd after a few throws to 1st. 1-1 count to Victorino now.

alloverjr
07-09-2009, 09:28 PM
E on Phillips allows 2 to score. Geez.

SirFelixCat
07-09-2009, 09:29 PM
Lined hard off of BP's glove and tie game :(

Big Klu
07-09-2009, 09:30 PM
Those two runs are on blue at first base.

CrackerJack
07-09-2009, 09:30 PM
Owings yelling at Phillips during play...should've been caught, but that thing was smoked, pipe down Owings and quit putting guys on base.

Now that bad call at 1st is big.

SirFelixCat
07-09-2009, 09:30 PM
Ruled a hit, not an error on BP.

oneupper
07-09-2009, 09:30 PM
How do you not catch that?

RedsManRick
07-09-2009, 09:31 PM
It's hard to overcome a combination of bad calls and bad defense. You can't give them 5 outs.

SirFelixCat
07-09-2009, 09:33 PM
Grounded right back to Owings and it's a 1-3 ground out. Owings is PISSED.

Thru 4, Reds 4, Umps/Phillies 4.

SirFelixCat
07-09-2009, 09:36 PM
Willy T pops up, for the 3rd time today, in 3 attempts, this time, shorter than them all, about 95' to 2B. 1 out.

Between WillyT's inability to use common sense and George Grande, I might reach my breaking point today.

SirFelixCat
07-09-2009, 09:39 PM
CD works a walk vs the lefty Moyer! :thumbup:

Ok someone has to take over pbp for me. Got people coming over then the 2009 PokerStars Party @ the Palms tonight. Go Reds!

redsmetz
07-09-2009, 09:41 PM
CD works a walk vs the lefty Moyer! :thumbup:

Ok someone has to take over pbp for me. Got people coming over then the 2009 PokerStars Party @ the Palms tonight. Go Reds!

We'll back up. Dickerson went down to first, but it was just ball 3 - he subsequently singled. Votto at the plate, as Moyer has thrown over to 1st three times.

redsmetz
07-09-2009, 09:42 PM
Dickerson takes off afterall and easily steals second, with Votto swinging and missing for a K. Phillips up.

redsmetz
07-09-2009, 09:45 PM
Phillips takes him out of the park - two run dinger! Reds up 6-4.

CrackerJack
07-09-2009, 09:45 PM
Man Phillips is somethin else

BCubb2003
07-09-2009, 09:46 PM
Owings likes Phillips now.

Hoosier Red
07-09-2009, 09:46 PM
BPhil: There's your two runs back, now quit griping.

redsmetz
07-09-2009, 09:46 PM
Hernandez singles - just one out.

redsmetz
07-09-2009, 09:47 PM
BPhil: There's your two runs back, now quit griping.

He might have said that.

redsmetz
07-09-2009, 09:48 PM
I'm sorry. There are two out.

Big Klu
07-09-2009, 09:49 PM
I was watching Bruce Drennan on "All Bets Are Off" on Sportstime Ohio, and the topic of conversation was how Wedge and Shapiro need to be fired. Exhibit A brought up by Drennan and nearly every caller was how the Tribe goofed on their evaluation of Phillips. I think some of our northern neighbors would kill to have him back.

redsmetz
07-09-2009, 09:51 PM
Gomes does the Taveras and pops up to short. Reds up 6-4 in the middle of the 5th.

schroomytunes
07-09-2009, 09:55 PM
Yeah o'Brien and Krivsky brought us some serious players and prospects but their downfall was management that wanted to win now, but didn't want to open their wallets

Falls City Beer
07-09-2009, 10:00 PM
This team walks entirely too many hitters.

Big Klu
07-09-2009, 10:00 PM
Trivia Question (my own, not AFLAC's): Without looking, who are the top five home run hitters for the Reds this decade (2000-2009)?

Strikes Out Looking
07-09-2009, 10:01 PM
Trivia Question (my own, not AFLAC's): Who are the top five home run hitters for the Reds this decade? (2000-2009)

Is Michah Owings in the top 5 yet?

klw
07-09-2009, 10:02 PM
Trivia Question (my own, not AFLAC's): Without looking, who are the top five home run hitters for the Reds this decade (2000-2009)?

I'll guess
Dunn
Griffey
Phillips
Pena
Larue
(Can't bring myself to put Kearns)(thought about Larkin too)

Big Klu
07-09-2009, 10:02 PM
Is Michah Owings in the top 5 yet?

Not yet! :p:

Gallen5862
07-09-2009, 10:02 PM
Thanks for the PBP. How has Owings pitched tonight?

schroomytunes
07-09-2009, 10:03 PM
Dunn, Griffey, Phillips, EE, and Larkin my guess

Big Klu
07-09-2009, 10:04 PM
I'll guess
Dunn
Griffey
Phillips
Pena
Larue
(Can't bring myself to put Kearns)(thought about Larkin too)

Good guess, but no. (You did get some right, though.)

REDSEER
07-09-2009, 10:04 PM
Dunn, Griffey, Phillips, EE, Casey

hebroncougar
07-09-2009, 10:05 PM
Dunn, Griffey, A. Boone, Phillips, Encarnacion.

Big Klu
07-09-2009, 10:05 PM
Dunn, Griffey, Phillips, EE, and Larkin my guess

No...


Dunn, Griffey, Phillips, EE, Casey

...and no.


Both good guesses, though.

Big Klu
07-09-2009, 10:06 PM
Dunn, Griffey, A. Boone, Phillips, Encarnacion.

Negative.

klw
07-09-2009, 10:06 PM
Dunn, Griffey, A. Boone, Phillips, Encarnacion.

Sure it wasn't B. Boone? He liked the professional at bats.

klw
07-09-2009, 10:07 PM
Dunn
JR
Phillips
EE
Kearns

Big Klu
07-09-2009, 10:08 PM
A lot of you have been close, but no cigar.

Big Klu
07-09-2009, 10:08 PM
Dunn
JR
Phillips
EE
Kearns

Nope.

klw
07-09-2009, 10:09 PM
Oh Phillies with 3 walks and a single have them loaded with 1 in and Roenicke replaces Owings.

redsmetz
07-09-2009, 10:10 PM
NM

hebroncougar
07-09-2009, 10:10 PM
Dunn, Jr., Phillips, A. Boone, Young?

klw
07-09-2009, 10:10 PM
Dunn
JR
Phillips
EE
Taveras

redsmetz
07-09-2009, 10:11 PM
Argh. Grounder and Roenicke doesn't get over to first in time. Tie score.

CTA513
07-09-2009, 10:12 PM
More bad defense just cost the Reds a double play.

hebroncougar
07-09-2009, 10:12 PM
Dunn
JR
Phillips
EE
Taveras

:D

klw
07-09-2009, 10:14 PM
Taveras
Patterson
Womack
Abad
Hopper

Big Klu
07-09-2009, 10:14 PM
Dunn, Jr., Phillips, A. Boone, Young?

No


Dunn
JR
Phillips
EE
Taveras

Ha, ha.

Reds Fanatic
07-09-2009, 10:15 PM
Inning should have been over but it continues and now the Phillies have a 7-6 lead on the Rollins hit.

Big Klu
07-09-2009, 10:15 PM
Taveras
Patterson
Womack
Abad
Hopper

Now you're just being silly. :p:

schroomytunes
07-09-2009, 10:17 PM
I predict a double by Utley...Herrara's overated!!!!

Big Klu
07-09-2009, 10:18 PM
Wild pitch scored another run.

redsmetz
07-09-2009, 10:18 PM
We really don't want to win this game. Passed ball, another run scores

CTA513
07-09-2009, 10:18 PM
Another run given away.

8-6 Phillies

Falls City Beer
07-09-2009, 10:18 PM
I predict a double by Utley...Herrara's overated!!!!

I don't know if he's overrated, but the shine is definitely off him. It happens to trick pitchers.

schroomytunes
07-09-2009, 10:19 PM
Yep our pitcher's are giving this game away.....sad

Big Klu
07-09-2009, 10:19 PM
Answers to the trivia question:

Dunn - 270
Griffey - 210
Casey - 86
Phillips - 82
LaRue - 81

schroomytunes
07-09-2009, 10:20 PM
so far 4 walks, 2 hits and a wild pitch this inning

traderumor
07-09-2009, 10:23 PM
That was ugly. Nothing like making it easy for a team that can hit anyway. Roenicke pitched scared, nibble, nibble even to freakin' Paul Bako, then becomes a spectator on a grounder to first.

redsmetz
07-09-2009, 10:23 PM
Chan Ho Park in to pitch with EE, Janish and 9th spot (is that Nix now?) (yes, it is Nix)

traderumor
07-09-2009, 10:24 PM
Bold prediction. 4 shutout innings from the Phillies bullpen, maybe we'll get a hit, maybe we won't.

redsmetz
07-09-2009, 10:27 PM
EE got out (don't remember how), Janish walked, Nix flew out. Two down

redsmetz
07-09-2009, 10:28 PM
My wife posed a question, she asked about a pitcher we had in the last ten years who threw side armed. I'm blanking and she just threw the gauntlet down and said, "maybe I'm asking the wrong person." Help me, kids!

traderumor
07-09-2009, 10:28 PM
Good to see Willy beating the ball into the ground like they've supposedly been working so hard with him to do.

redsmetz
07-09-2009, 10:28 PM
Going to the bottom of the inning, down 8-6.

traderumor
07-09-2009, 10:28 PM
My wife posed a question, she asked about a pitcher we had in the last ten years who threw side armed. I'm blanking and she just threw the gauntlet down and said, "maybe I'm asking the wrong person." Help me, kids!
Scott Sullivan

BCubb2003
07-09-2009, 10:30 PM
My wife posed a question, she asked about a pitcher we had in the last ten years who threw side armed. I'm blanking and she just threw the gauntlet down and said, "maybe I'm asking the wrong person." Help me, kids!

Scott Sullivan?

CTA513
07-09-2009, 10:33 PM
9-6 and the Reds still haven't figured out how to pitch to Werth.

alloverjr
07-09-2009, 10:34 PM
Now that the league is hitting .300 off Danny Boy, do we think the foolery has worn off? He's been beaten to death in the last week or so.

edabbs44
07-09-2009, 10:34 PM
If I were a bettinng man, I would take the over tomorrow night.

Big Klu
07-09-2009, 10:35 PM
9-6 and the Reds still haven't figured out how to pitch to Werth.

Knock him down. I'm not saying play dirty, but he is entirely too comfortable in the batter's box.

redsmetz
07-09-2009, 10:35 PM
Scott Sullivan?

Yes, that's it. She said a couple of guys at work were talking about a kid they were coaching whose throwing side armed and it reminded them of "a pitcher whose name I didn't recognize, something like Fenton McAuley..." I suggested Kent Tekulve and she said that was the one they mentioned. Actually Fenton McAuley could sort of sound like Kent Tekulve. But she was thinking of Sullivan and I'm saved.

But I'm turning the game off and going to watch some more of Season 1 of Lost, since this game seems to be Lost anyway.

Falls City Beer
07-09-2009, 10:36 PM
The weak side of the bullpen's getting a lot of exposure tonight. It was over when it was clear Owings didn't have a thing tonight.

SirFelixCat
07-09-2009, 10:36 PM
My wife posed a question, she asked about a pitcher we had in the last ten years who threw side armed. I'm blanking and she just threw the gauntlet down and said, "maybe I'm asking the wrong person." Help me, kids!

Scott Sullivan

schroomytunes
07-09-2009, 10:36 PM
The Phils have knocked us into 2010 with this series, just shows who belongs and who dosn't.....sell sell sell!!!

Reds/Flyers Fan
07-09-2009, 10:38 PM
Two under .500 after tonight with Bronson Arroyo pitching tomorrow.

Time to call it a season and sell off some of the junk on this roster.

hebroncougar
07-09-2009, 10:39 PM
Manuel wishes he was back at Louisville after that side swipe by EE.

Falls City Beer
07-09-2009, 10:40 PM
Two under .500 after tonight with Bronson Arroyo pitching tomorrow.

Time to call it a season and sell off some of the junk on this roster.

Maybe Walt's "waiting" was wise? I'd hate to have sold off some young talent for some rental property.

schroomytunes
07-09-2009, 10:40 PM
Two under .500 after tonight with Bronson Arroyo pitching tomorrow.

Time to call it a season and sell off some of the junk on this roster


amen brother!!!!!

Weathers, Hairston, Taveres, Arroyo, pack your bags!!!

redsmetz
07-09-2009, 10:41 PM
Huh, now our son is calling from DC and the first thing my wife asks him is about the side armer we had and he says "Scott Sullivan" and I was mocked. I guess I'll have to pull out Fenton McAuley from time to time.

tommycash
07-09-2009, 10:44 PM
Gotta love the look on Manuel's mom's face after he got the strike out.

"That's our son"

Reds/Flyers Fan
07-09-2009, 10:47 PM
Weathers, Hairston, Taveres, Arroyo, pack your bags!!!

Although, outside of JHJ, who would want that group?

Tony Cloninger
07-09-2009, 10:48 PM
Traderumor...I agree....when I see JR, with his stuff.....nibble with paul Bako and not be able to put that guy away..I just think the crowd and the situation got to him.

I guess Danny cannot have a few bad games...he has to suck, no other way around it.

traderumor
07-09-2009, 10:48 PM
How is Manuel getting even AAA batters out? He doesn't seem to have anything and he is getting guys out from the back of the bullpen. Not sure what I'm missing, but I don't see anything that makes him a part of the future in the pen.

traderumor
07-09-2009, 10:50 PM
Traderumor...I agree....when I see JR, with his stuff.....nibble with paul Bako and not be able to put that guy away..I just think the crowd and the situation got to him.

I guess Danny cannot have a few bad games...he has to suck, no other way around it.Agree, hopefully he learns from that outing because he sure did not look confident. Power pitchers have to be aggressive.

traderumor
07-09-2009, 10:51 PM
There's two shutout, no hit, one BB inning from CHAN HO PARK.

traderumor
07-09-2009, 10:58 PM
From the back, with the haircut and the build, Manuel looks like Danny Graves, the early years.

CTA513
07-09-2009, 11:00 PM
Scoreless 7th inning for Manuel.

traderumor
07-09-2009, 11:01 PM
Scoreless 7th inning for Manuel.Through the heart of the order :)

traderumor
07-09-2009, 11:04 PM
Rollins robs Hernandez on a soft liner, Bruce hits his nineteenth consecutive nubber off the handle to first. But he did hustle, if anyone wondered.

traderumor
07-09-2009, 11:07 PM
That would be three scoreless innings from CHAN HO PARK. My "bold" prediction is 3/4 of the way home. :(

Tony Cloninger
07-09-2009, 11:10 PM
Hey can someone please beat up Grande for us.....there has to be at least a few nuts in Philly to do so.

Nothing long term....just enough so he does not make his flight out. ;)

membengal
07-09-2009, 11:17 PM
That would be three scoreless innings from CHAN HO PARK. My "bold" prediction is 3/4 of the way home. :(

Not surprising, like all reds opponents, just before the reds were due into town, their lame and old took Flubber, and are completely rejuvenated and ready to go.

traderumor
07-09-2009, 11:19 PM
Not surprising, like all reds opponents, just before the reds were due into town, their lame and old took Flubber, and are completely rejuvenated and ready to go.For sure, my bold prediction was based on our ability to make any bullpen look like the Nasty Boys.
Janish K's as I type.

BCubb2003
07-09-2009, 11:21 PM
Not surprising, like all reds opponents, just before the reds were due into town, their lame and old took Flubber, and are completely rejuvenated and ready to go.

Flubber is not on the list of banned substances. You'll have to rewrite the collective bargaining agreement.

traderumor
07-09-2009, 11:23 PM
Holy Cow, WT works a walk :eek: two down 1 on

membengal
07-09-2009, 11:24 PM
Even worse for the Reds, it's the old school Disney Flubber Fred MacMurray version that opponents are using, not that updated Robin Williams stuff.

Raisor
07-09-2009, 11:25 PM
Although, outside of JHJ, who would want that group?

who would give up anything worth getting for JHj?

traderumor
07-09-2009, 11:25 PM
with all due respect to little girls, Dickerson looks like a little girl trying to hit Lidge

And he whiffs to end it.

WVRedsFan
07-10-2009, 12:51 AM
who would give up anything worth getting for JHj?
N-O-B-O-D-Y.

Notice who offered him in the off season? He was our No. 1 priority according to newswire reports. :dunno:

Strikes Out Looking
07-10-2009, 08:57 AM
Why is Dusty Baker blaming Chris Dickerson for Willy Taveras playing shoddy OF? Is Chris also responsible for Willy's inability to reach 1b?

redsmetz
07-10-2009, 09:57 AM
Why is Dusty Baker blaming Chris Dickerson for Willy Taveras playing shoddy OF? Is Chris also responsible for Willy's inability to reach 1b?

Because if Dickerson does what he's supposed to do, that's not an inside the park home run. It's more likely just a hard single, at worst a double. It's a team and if it fails to function as a team, then things like this happen. I agree with SirFelix that we've seen enough of Tavaras, but if Chris Dickerson backs it up (as he should), that's just a baserunner with a chance to leave him there. The same is true of Roenicke not hustling. I expect Baker to call those players out. This club does not have the depth that allows for such mistakes. The team can help make up for deficiencies such as Taveras playing a ball incorrectly. It would be nice not to have that in the first place, but if it happens, someone else is supposed to help minimize that mistake. Team effort - as simple as that.

traderumor
07-10-2009, 11:46 AM
Why is Dusty Baker blaming Chris Dickerson for Willy Taveras playing shoddy OF? Is Chris also responsible for Willy's inability to reach 1b?I agree with Redsmetz, but I want to add that backing up on a play is learned at the Little League level, and my thought was the same as Dusty's as the ball was rolling forever on the warning track: "Where's the RFer on that play."

When you are a major leaguer, being paid six and seven figure incomes for your unique talent, and you enter a visiting ballpark for the first time that year, your butt better be out there surveying the ballpark and picking up on quirks of the park to minimize the home park advantage of knowing nooks and crannies and funny bounces off of fences just like that. The only excuse I have for Dickerson is that he is not accustomed to playing RF anywhere, but that is really a very poor excuse.

The plays that Dusty was upset about were both valid points, regardless of what anyone else did on the play. Just like the RFer is to blame if a guy gets two bases on an overthrow of a bunt. Yea, the guy who made the overthrow is to blame, but the extra base or bases is on whoever is supposed to be backing up.

Of course, it is all hot air from Dusty if he does not reinforce the standard with an organized practice on these types of things this afternoon in New York. If the players are not executing fundamentals, you refresh their memory, no matter what level they are playing.

redsmetz
07-10-2009, 11:54 AM
Of course, it is all hot air from Dusty if he does not reinforce the standard with an organized practice on these types of things this afternoon in New York. If the players are not executing fundamentals, you refresh their memory, no matter what level they are playing.

I'm not sure if the Dickerson failure is something you can practice, but it makes me wondering why this funky wall hasn't been brought to the player's attention prior to this. We have advance scouts. We've played in this park before, etc. But our offensive woes are such that we just can't put ourselves behind the eight ball with shoddy play. I understand no team is ever perfect, but we have little margin for error.

traderumor
07-10-2009, 12:00 PM
I'm not sure if the Dickerson failure is something you can practice, but it makes me wondering why this funky wall hasn't been brought to the player's attention prior to this. We have advance scouts. We've played in this park before, etc. But our offensive woes are such that we just can't put ourselves behind the eight ball with shoddy play. I understand no team is ever perfect, but we have little margin for error.The practice would be focused on where are you supposed to be on any given pitch and ball in play. I wasn't saying they need to practice funny bounces off of walls. But that should be a part of surveying the landscape as you enter a visiting ballpark rather than playing cards or video games in the clubhouse, or standing with legs crossed chewing fingernails in the outfield during BP. Not saying that is what Dickerson's habits are, BTW, because I don't know, but that play indicates that there may not have been appropriate pre-game preparation.