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Red in Chicago
07-17-2009, 06:46 PM
Milwaukee
C. Counsell 2b
M. Cameron cf
R. Braun lf
P. Fielder 1b
M. Gamel 3b
C. Hart rf
J.J. Hardy ss
J. Kendall c
J. Suppan p

Cincinnati
W. Taveras cf
J. Hairston Jr. ss
J. Votto 1b
B. Phillips 2b
L. Nix lf
E. Encarnacion 3b
C. Dickerson rf
R. Hanigan c
B. Arroyo p

Matt700wlw
07-17-2009, 08:01 PM
A quiet Friday night, a house full of dogs glad to have some company (my parents are out of town...I'm house/dog sitting), satellite TV, high speed internet, a few coldies in the fridge and Reds baseball.

This isn't bad! I hope to watch an exciting, fun game! It's been a while since I've been able to actually watch one. George and Chris on the call, which will be interesting since I rarely get that experience. :)

GAC
07-17-2009, 08:06 PM
The last time Arroyo faced the Brewers it wasn't pretty.... 1 inning, 9 ERs.

chat is open! :beerme:

RedsManRick
07-17-2009, 08:09 PM
Good to see we've speed at the top of the lineup and OBP at the bottom. That Dusty sure does know how to build an effective lineup.

Matt700wlw
07-17-2009, 08:10 PM
An achy Dickerson is a better leadoff hitter than a healthy Tavares.

RedsManRick
07-17-2009, 08:17 PM
Both Braun and Fielder give it a ride, but the ball stays in the yard. 0-0 headed to the bottom of the 1st.

mbgrayson
07-17-2009, 08:28 PM
Good to see we've speed at the top of the lineup and OBP at the bottom. That Dusty sure does know how to build an effective lineup.

Thom and Cowboy were commenting on this extensively. They advocated batting Dickerson 1st, and hannigan second....wow. They specifically said that we need high OBP guys in front of Votto and Phillips.

CTA513
07-17-2009, 08:33 PM
2 scoreless innings for Arroyo

RedsManRick
07-17-2009, 08:37 PM
EE still trying to pull everything in site, but manages to roll over on one enough that it dribbles down the 3B line and Gamel can't get to it fast enough.

SirFelixCat
07-17-2009, 08:48 PM
Looks like apathy has finally sunk in?

3rd inning and 8 posts.

GAC
07-17-2009, 08:58 PM
we're all in chat :beerme:

membengal
07-17-2009, 08:59 PM
Looks like apathy has finally sunk in?

3rd inning and 8 posts.

Yeah. It's here.

CTA513
07-17-2009, 09:12 PM
4 scoreless innings for Arroyo.

The offense hasn't shown up yet.

WVRedsFan
07-17-2009, 09:20 PM
Just dropped in to see what condition my condition was in. I think I got my answer. Nobody cares.

CTA513
07-17-2009, 09:20 PM
1-0 Reds

Encarnacion singled to center with Nix on 1st and Cameron had the ball go through his legs allowing Nix to score and Encarnacion to reach 3rd.

Mario-Rijo
07-17-2009, 09:25 PM
Thom and Cowboy were commenting on this extensively. They advocated batting Dickerson 1st, and hannigan second....wow. They specifically said that we need high OBP guys in front of Votto and Phillips.

I'll tell ya what I know you are not talking about Welsh but listening to him this year it seems like he has been reading RZ, he's made an awful lot of astute points throughout the season which jive with things we tend to come to a conclusion on here. Never noticed him doing that in prior seasons.

Bob Borkowski
07-17-2009, 09:35 PM
I'll tell ya what I know you are not talking about Welsh but listening to him this year it seems like he has been reading RZ, he's made an awful lot of astute points throughout the season which jive with things we tend to come to a conclusion on here. Never noticed him doing that in prior seasons.

I'm with you on that.

Also, I'm sure some of the sports guys on WLW radio do the same thing in order to help them come up with points for debate on any given evening.

membengal
07-17-2009, 09:42 PM
Hello. Has our resident arroyo "fan" been around to congratulate him on 14 consecutive scoreless innings of ball?

mbgrayson
07-17-2009, 09:45 PM
Nix knocks in Willy T., 2-0 Reds.

mbgrayson
07-17-2009, 09:49 PM
EE follows with a single, knocking in Votto. 3-0 Reds.

That EE can hit quite well when he is healthy...

Mario-Rijo
07-17-2009, 10:12 PM
Lord I hate to see Counsell come to the plate! I swear it seems he gets a hit 75% of the time he comes up against us. :confused:

Redlegs
07-17-2009, 10:18 PM
My initial reaction is the Reds caught a break on the Cameron slide. Good ole' hard nosed baseball, IMO. I'll wait for the replay.

durl
07-17-2009, 10:19 PM
So I'm guessing they called the double play because the runner slid 10 feet beyond the bag?

Redlegs
07-17-2009, 10:20 PM
Chris Welsh said bad call. I agree. We'll take it.

Redlegs
07-17-2009, 10:20 PM
So I'm guessing they called the double play because the runner slid 10 feet beyond the bag?He slid through the base. It happens all the time.

durl
07-17-2009, 10:22 PM
On the replay, he began his slide when he got above the bag. Since his intent was to go past the bag, that opened him up to interference.

membengal
07-17-2009, 10:23 PM
Improbably, Arroyo at 16 consecutive scoreless innings.

Redlegs
07-17-2009, 10:25 PM
I don't think it was quite that late, durl. It was a rookie ump. I don't know the rule specifically, but I don't think a vet makes that call. Either way, good deal for our beloved Reds.

Redlegs
07-17-2009, 10:26 PM
Improbably, Arroyo at 16 consecutive scoreless innings.Yeah, better get him the heck outta there before that ERA turns its ugly head. :eek:

durl
07-17-2009, 10:36 PM
I don't think it was quite that late, durl. It was a rookie ump. I don't know the rule specifically, but I don't think a vet makes that call. Either way, good deal for our beloved Reds.

Slowing it down on my DVR, Cameron's backside didn't make contact with the ground until he was at least even with the bag. I'm all for hard slides to break up double plays, but I believe his late slide put him too far away from bag and directly into the fielder.

Now I believe Welsh has a VERY good point in that they could have NOT called interference because it appears that Phillips didn't intend to make a throw to 1st.

edabbs44
07-17-2009, 10:38 PM
Improbably, Arroyo at 16 consecutive scoreless innings.

I've never seen a guy this wildly inconsistent. He either wins or loses games by himself.

CTA513
07-17-2009, 10:40 PM
Encarnacion homers to make it 4-0 Reds

durl
07-17-2009, 10:41 PM
Hopefully EE is finding his groove...

edabbs44
07-17-2009, 10:43 PM
Hopefully EE is finding his groove...

He has been like Stella so far...

BCubb2003
07-17-2009, 10:50 PM
Sometimes you find the groove, sometimes the groove finds you.

Redlegs
07-17-2009, 10:54 PM
If Eddie can play the way everyone seems to think he's capable, it could change the whole look of this team. It could fill the void rather than needing a trade to hang in or it could allow them to focus on a trade for other needs.

Mario-Rijo
07-17-2009, 11:15 PM
Crazy, I just hear EE talk and it struck me as odd. I had thought I had heard him speak before but I must not have. He sounds like a Mature Dominican Froggy. But he can talk that way all he likes as long as he plays like he has lately.

DoogMinAmo
07-17-2009, 11:19 PM
EEE?

Edwin Encarnacion Enfuego.

corkedbat
07-17-2009, 11:20 PM
Nice game by EdE & BA. If this team is going to stay interesting at all, they need big 2nd halves from each. I would still gladly take solid young talent for either while they're "hot" though.

CTA513
07-17-2009, 11:28 PM
From John Fays blog:




Reaching via hit, walk, or HBP (consecutive)

8 (7h, 1bb), Edwin Encarnacion, 7/16-current
8 (7h, 1bb), Jeff Keppinger, 5/10-5/11, 2008 at NYM
9 (7h, 2bb), Adam Dunn, 7/26-7/27, 2006 at Hou
10 (9h, 1bb), Dmitri Young, 6/27-6/29, 2001
13, Barry Larkin, 5/25-5/27, 1997 (club record)
14, National League record, Pedro Guerrero, 7/23-7/26, 1985



Hits in consecutive at bats

7, Edwin Encarnacion, 7/16-current
7, Jeff Keppinger, 5/10-5/11, 2008 at NYM, most since
7, Adam Dunn, 7/26-7/27, 2006 at Hou
9, Dmitri Young, 6/27-6/29, 2001

(team record is 10)

reds44
07-17-2009, 11:29 PM
Edwin being Edwin.

3rd base is not a need.

RedlegJake
07-17-2009, 11:30 PM
I'd keep EE. Bronson is doing just what I hope will make him attractive to a team that expects more "good Bronson" to show up and overpays for him.

Mario-Rijo
07-17-2009, 11:39 PM
EEE?

Edwin Encarnacion Enfuego.

EEEE

Edwin Elpidio Encarnacion EnFuego

Mario-Rijo
07-17-2009, 11:44 PM
From John Fays blog:



Reaching via hit, walk, or HBP (consecutive)

8 (7h, 1bb), Edwin Encarnacion, 7/16-current
8 (7h, 1bb), Jeff Keppinger, 5/10-5/11, 2008 at NYM
9 (7h, 2bb), Adam Dunn, 7/26-7/27, 2006 at Hou
10 (9h, 1bb), Dmitri Young, 6/27-6/29, 2001
13, Barry Larkin, 5/25-5/27, 1997 (club record)
14, National League record, Pedro Guerrero, 7/23-7/26, 1985



Hits in consecutive at bats

7, Edwin Encarnacion, 7/16-current
7, Jeff Keppinger, 5/10-5/11, 2008 at NYM, most since
7, Adam Dunn, 7/26-7/27, 2006 at Hou
9, Dmitri Young, 6/27-6/29, 2001

(team record is 10)

I suppose they aren't counting Hatcher due to his being in the postseason but his was 9 in a row (reaching base) to begin that WS IIRC.

Ron Madden
07-18-2009, 03:44 AM
Edwin being Edwin.

3rd base is not a need.

Our boy Edwin is finally healthy and that's a good thing!

Now if Dusty would only move him up in the batting order to insure him more ABs.

:beerme:

Big Klu
07-18-2009, 04:14 AM
Reaching via hit, walk, or HBP (consecutive)

8 (7h, 1bb), Edwin Encarnacion, 7/16-current
8 (7h, 1bb), Jeff Keppinger, 5/10-5/11, 2008 at NYM
9 (7h, 2bb), Adam Dunn, 7/26-7/27, 2006 at Hou
10 (9h, 1bb), Dmitri Young, 6/27-6/29, 2001
13, Barry Larkin, 5/25-5/27, 1997 (club record)
14, National League record, Pedro Guerrero, 7/23-7/26, 1985



Hits in consecutive at bats

7, Edwin Encarnacion, 7/16-current
7, Jeff Keppinger, 5/10-5/11, 2008 at NYM, most since
7, Adam Dunn, 7/26-7/27, 2006 at Hou
9, Dmitri Young, 6/27-6/29, 2001

(team record is 10)

I believe the club record of 10 hits is held by Bip Roberts in 1992.