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GOYA
07-18-2009, 06:09 PM
Stubbs CF .277
Valaika SS .225
Heisey LF .351
Barker 1B .265
McDonald RF .291
Bankston DH .247
Griffin 2B .245
Eymann 3B .200
Miller C .214

Jukich P

roborobj
07-18-2009, 06:34 PM
Jukich has three strike outs already after one.
:beerme:

texasdave
07-18-2009, 06:39 PM
Camilo Vazquez going for the Mudcats who lead 1-0 after an inning of play. Vazquez struck out two in the first. Todd Frazier with his 47th RBI of the season plating Sean Henry.

texasdave
07-18-2009, 06:40 PM
Sarasota just about ready to go. Scott Carroll on the mound for the mini-redlegs.

GOYA
07-18-2009, 07:11 PM
Barker HR

1-0 Bats in the 4th

Barker is 2 for 2

Sam LeCure is on the DL with an oblique strain.

GOYA
07-18-2009, 07:48 PM
A 459 foot HR ties it up 1-1 and breaks up Jukich's no-hitter after 6 innings


Player IP H R ER BB SO HR ERA
Jukich 6.0 1 1 1 2 5 1 4.62

texasdave
07-18-2009, 08:20 PM
Jukich gave up two hits in 8 innings of work. Unfortunately both were bombs and he leaves the game trailing 2-1. Burton on to work the 9th.

texasdave
07-18-2009, 08:21 PM
Carolina trailing big in the first of two, down 7-1 in the bottom of the sixth.

texasdave
07-18-2009, 08:23 PM
Sarasota tied at 2 after 6 1/2. Mesoraco with his 6th round-tripper on the season.

texasdave
07-18-2009, 08:25 PM
After 4 1/2 the Dragons are knotted up at one. Fellhauer with his 7th double already in just 14 games. Janke pitching for Dayton.

GOYA
07-18-2009, 08:30 PM
Barker doubles, Bolivar pinch runs.

McD doubles over the CF head

tied 2-2 in the 9th

GOYA
07-18-2009, 08:35 PM
Barker is now 3 for 4 with a double and a HR

Going to the 10th

GOYA
07-18-2009, 08:50 PM
Eymann with a leadoff standup triple in the bottom of the 10th

Still tied

GOYA
07-18-2009, 08:58 PM
Corky K
Stubbs weak pop
Valaika K

:(

texasdave
07-18-2009, 09:00 PM
Corky K
Stubbs weak pop
Valaika K

:(

They are ready for the big club.

GOYA
07-18-2009, 09:36 PM
Bats now in the 13th inning

texasdave
07-18-2009, 09:39 PM
Dayton up 6-1. Wiley a double and a walk.

GOYA
07-18-2009, 09:51 PM
Stubbs 0 for 6 with 3 Ks

mace
07-18-2009, 09:52 PM
Dayton up 6-1. Wiley a double and a walk.

Miguel Rojas is 4 for 4.

GOYA
07-18-2009, 10:04 PM
Bats now at the 14th inning stretch.

The pitching is impressive.


Player IP H R ER BB SO HR ERA
Jukich 8.0 2 2 2 2 6 2 4.62
Burton 1.0 0 0 0 1 1 0 1.13
Stewart 2.0 1 0 0 1 3 0 0.00
Roenicke 0.2 0 0 0 2 1 0 2.92
Pettyjohn 2.1 3 0 0 0 2 0 4.88

GOYA
07-18-2009, 10:35 PM
Top of the 16th in Louisville

Bulls get an unearned run from a Valaika error.

GOYA
07-18-2009, 10:51 PM
Bats lose 3-2 in 16 innings.


Player AB R H 2B 3B HR RBI BB SO AVG
Stubbs CF 7 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 3 .271
Valaika SS 7 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 1 .217
Heisey LF 7 0 1 0 0 0 0 0 2 .328
Barker 1B 4 1 3 1 0 1 1 0 0 .272
Bolivar 3B 2 1 0 0 0 0 0 1 0 .240
McDonald RF 6 0 2 1 0 0 1 1 0 .293
Bankston DH 6 0 1 1 0 0 0 1 1 .245
Griffin, M 2B 6 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 1 .232
Eymann 3B-1B 5 0 1 0 1 0 0 1 3 .200
Miller C 4 0 1 0 0 0 0 1 1 .219
Tatum C 1 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 .239

Player IP H R ER BB SO HR ERA
Jukich 8.0 2 2 2 2 6 2 4.62
Burton 1.0 0 0 0 1 1 0 1.13
Stewart 2.0 1 0 0 1 3 0 0.00
Roenicke 0.2 0 0 0 2 1 0 2.92
Pettyjohn (L, 1-6) 4.1 5 1 0 2 4 0 4.68

Grande Donkey
07-18-2009, 11:01 PM
Good to see Stewart dominating after his call up to AAA.

texasdave
07-18-2009, 11:10 PM
Billings trails 6-1. Holy Gary Redus, this Gregorius kid is hitting over .400 for the Mustangs. Incidentally, the Mustangs have a 36-man roster.

texasdave
07-18-2009, 11:19 PM
GCL Reds were wearing their hitting shoes today pounding out 13 hits and drawing 9 walks in a 11-5 thumping of the baby Orioles. Bowe had 2 hits and 2 walks, Silva had a hit and drew 3 free passes, Juan Duran had a couple of base knocks and Danny Vicioso had 3 hits including a double and a home run.
Tzu-Kai "Bobbs" Chiu pitched four innings for the win allowing 2H 1R 1BB and 6K.

Scrap Irony
07-18-2009, 11:50 PM
That 0-for-seven night of Drew Stubbs is even worse than the line would indicate. Three times Stubbs could have driven in a run with a routine grounder or medium deep fly ball. In none of the three did he come close. He looked completely overmatched at the plate. Slow bat, flailing at pitches in the dirt. When he hit one back to the pitcher in the fifteenth inning, those that were left cheered that he made contact.

Perhaps the worst I have ever seen a prospect look in a game.

Heisey went 1-7, IIRC, but got robbed twice and a truly horrible call by the first base umpire took away another hit. He was safe by a step and a half and the ump called him out on a really nice dive and throw by Brignac. Our old friend Rey Rey Olmedo took away a double as well, diving to his right to snare it, then a strong throw across the diamond to beat him. Defensively, neither shone, nor had to. Valaika also went 0-fer at the plate, but hit it hard a couple times with at-'ems.

Burton's FB just isn't what it was last year. He hit 94 a couple times, but, for the most part, stayed around 91 with it and couldn't throw it straight. (Pretty much the story of the Bat night; good stuff for the relievers, but lots of pitches.) Stewart hit 97 twice on the Bat gun and his slider (?) is filthy. But he also had problems throwing strikes. The one hit was a flare that fell. Same with Roenicke. Solid gas, didn't throw enough strikes. Jukich never broke 90, BTW, nor did Pettyjohn.

Az. Reds Fan
07-18-2009, 11:59 PM
That 0-for-seven night of Drew Stubbs is even worse than the line would indicate. Three times Stubbs could have driven in a run with a routine grounder or medium deep fly ball. In none of the three did he come close. He looked completely overmatched at the plate. Slow bat, flailing at pitches in the dirt. When he hit one back to the pitcher in the fifteenth inning, those that were left cheered that he made contact.

Perhaps the worst I have ever seen a prospect look in a game.

Heisey went 1-7, IIRC, but got robbed twice and a truly horrible call by the first base umpire took away another hit. He was safe by a step and a half and the ump called him out on a really nice dive and throw by Brignac. Our old friend Rey Rey Olmedo took away a double as well, diving to his right to snare it, then a strong throw across the diamond to beat him. Defensively, neither shone, nor had to. Valaika also went 0-fer at the plate, but hit it hard a couple times with at-'ems.

Burton's FB just isn't what it was last year. He hit 94 a couple times, but, for the most part, stayed around 91 with it and couldn't throw it straight. (Pretty much the story of the Bat night; good stuff for the relievers, but lots of pitches.) Stewart hit 97 twice on the Bat gun and his slider (?) is filthy. But he also had problems throwing strikes. The one hit was a flare that fell. Same with Roenicke. Solid gas, didn't throw enough strikes. Jukich never broke 90, BTW, nor did Pettyjohn.

Tell us how you really feel, Scrap :D

Scrap Irony
07-19-2009, 12:41 AM
I'm telling you, man. I've seen roughly 25 or 30 of Stubbs' games over the past few years, twice in Chattanooga, once in Dayton, and the rest in Louisville. I've been watching minor league baseball for fifteen years pretty regularly too. I've probably attended 500 or so games over the course of those 15 years.

I saw Adam Dunn hit three consecutive pitches (two foul and one fair) completely out of the Louisville stadium (the only time a ballpark has been pindrop silent was when he hit the third one). I've seen all the suspects, prospects, and never-will-bes the Reds have pushed through AAA and tonight's spectacle was the worst I have ever seen a true prospect look. It was indescribably bad. Words do no justice to the suck I saw tonight.

His bat was s-l-o-w. His pitch recognition was nonexistant. He had absolutely no power. None. I think one ball got out of the infield all night (and the second baseman caught it). No ball went more than 120 feet.

Of course, none of this means a thing, too. Anyone can look bad on a given night. Maybe he's sick. Maybe he's tired. (I was tired and all I did was watch the marathon.) Maybe he's trying out a new swing. (If so, he can junk it.) I don't know.

I remember seeing Dave Collins hit for the Reds. Collins looked like a Little Leaguer. Went 0-fer and didn't touch a ball. Wouldn't have mattered if he took a toy bat up to the plate in that game. Thought he was done. Toast.

That was before he left the Reds to join the Yankees in 1981. Collins enjoyed another ten years of good baseball after that particular game. Everybody struggles.

Screwball
07-19-2009, 02:54 AM
Very interesting stuff, Scrap. I'm curious, do you think Heisey can be an .800 (+?) OPS bat in CF for the Reds?

dougdirt
07-19-2009, 03:16 AM
Gotta love the Bats 1-2-3 going 1 for 21 in a 16 inning game.

SirFelixCat
07-19-2009, 03:41 AM
I'm telling you, man. I've seen roughly 25 or 30 of Stubbs' games over the past few years, twice in Chattanooga, once in Dayton, and the rest in Louisville. I've been watching minor league baseball for fifteen years pretty regularly too. I've probably attended 500 or so games over the course of those 15 years.

I saw Adam Dunn hit three consecutive pitches (two foul and one fair) completely out of the Louisville stadium (the only time a ballpark has been pindrop silent was when he hit the third one). I've seen all the suspects, prospects, and never-will-bes the Reds have pushed through AAA and tonight's spectacle was the worst I have ever seen a true prospect look. It was indescribably bad. Words do no justice to the suck I saw tonight.

His bat was s-l-o-w. His pitch recognition was nonexistant. He had absolutely no power. None. I think one ball got out of the infield all night (and the second baseman caught it). No ball went more than 120 feet.

Of course, none of this means a thing, too. Anyone can look bad on a given night. Maybe he's sick. Maybe he's tired. (I was tired and all I did was watch the marathon.) Maybe he's trying out a new swing. (If so, he can junk it.) I don't know.

I remember seeing Dave Collins hit for the Reds. Collins looked like a Little Leaguer. Went 0-fer and didn't touch a ball. Wouldn't have mattered if he took a toy bat up to the plate in that game. Thought he was done. Toast.

That was before he left the Reds to join the Yankees in 1981. Collins enjoyed another ten years of good baseball after that particular game. Everybody struggles.

When I saw his line and read thru the updates here tonight, my first two thoughts were:

1) Maybe he's sick?
2) Maybe he's pouting a bit from not being called up?


Not saying that's the case etc, but I fully expect him to bounce back. That's a looooong game to lose :(

icehole3
07-19-2009, 06:15 AM
I'm telling you, man. I've seen roughly 25 or 30 of Stubbs' games over the past few years, twice in Chattanooga, once in Dayton, and the rest in Louisville. I've been watching minor league baseball for fifteen years pretty regularly too. I've probably attended 500 or so games over the course of those 15 years.

I saw Adam Dunn hit three consecutive pitches (two foul and one fair) completely out of the Louisville stadium (the only time a ballpark has been pindrop silent was when he hit the third one). I've seen all the suspects, prospects, and never-will-bes the Reds have pushed through AAA and tonight's spectacle was the worst I have ever seen a true prospect look. It was indescribably bad. Words do no justice to the suck I saw tonight.

His bat was s-l-o-w. His pitch recognition was nonexistant. He had absolutely no power. None. I think one ball got out of the infield all night (and the second baseman caught it). No ball went more than 120 feet.

Of course, none of this means a thing, too. Anyone can look bad on a given night. Maybe he's sick. Maybe he's tired. (I was tired and all I did was watch the marathon.) Maybe he's trying out a new swing. (If so, he can junk it.) I don't know.

I remember seeing Dave Collins hit for the Reds. Collins looked like a Little Leaguer. Went 0-fer and didn't touch a ball. Wouldn't have mattered if he took a toy bat up to the plate in that game. Thought he was done. Toast.

That was before he left the Reds to join the Yankees in 1981. Collins enjoyed another ten years of good baseball after that particular game. Everybody struggles.

if Stubbs turns into Collins I'd take that everyday and Sunday

Scrap Irony
07-19-2009, 10:27 AM
Very interesting stuff, Scrap. I'm curious, do you think Heisey can be an .800 (+?) OPS bat in CF for the Reds?

Yeah, I do. I've only seen him five games (and one of those was one at-bat), so it's not like I have a good handle on everything, but, from what I've seen, he's got a plus glove and a very good arm-- though he short arms everything. It's almost like he's throwing a football. Doesn't look natural and easy, but it gets there on a line and he's extremely accurate.) His range isn't in Stubbs' class, but he takes excellent routes in CF, so he covers above average ground.

Offensively, he's not got all that much natural power and almost zero loft. It's a short, quick stroke with more line drive power than anything else. No one on the Red team has a stroke like this, either. If I had to compare his swing to someone's, I'd probably say mid-career, early 80's Reds/Yankee Griffey, Sr. Short, compact, quick-- great bat on ball skills. Above average pitch recognition skills, though he occasionally chases offspeed low and away. (Most of the time, he'll be able to waste the pitch, but he can be struck out.)

Very good speed. (Tried bunting for a hit last night, but a poor attempt.) What's more, he has good baseball instincts. Smart on the bases. Stole a base last game I attended and could have stolen it standing up, he had such a good jump. One small thing-- he gets great secondary leads. Huge secondary leads. That's something I wish Stubbs would do as well. Take advantage of that speed a bit more.

Overall, Heisey looks like a solid bet to OPS around 800 in the bigs. He can certainly play CF adequately, if not better. He's just an all-around baseball rat. He knows the game. (Much like Todd Frazier, IMO-- with much less natural talent.) I'd guess Heisey's peak season as 310/400/450 and his average will probably go around 275/350/425. Expect solid to above average intangibles due to high baseball IQ; that might bump him a notch or two overall as well offensively.

icehole3
07-19-2009, 11:57 AM
does he try going the other way with the out side pitch?

GOYA
07-19-2009, 01:11 PM
When I saw his line and read thru the updates here tonight, my first two thoughts were:

1) Maybe he's sick?
2) Maybe he's pouting a bit from not being called up?


Not saying that's the case etc, but I fully expect him to bounce back. That's a looooong game to lose :(

Stubbs has these games. When he looks bad, he looks really bad. Valaika is looking really bad now too. The time off for the All-Star break did him a disservice. When Sweet pulled Barker for a pinch runner, it made sense. But in the end, it took the only hot hitter out of the lineup. That's baseball.