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icehole3
07-20-2009, 06:52 AM
my top 5

1. Stewart
2. TWood
3. Leake
4. Smith
5. Fairel

RedEye
07-20-2009, 01:47 PM
I like those guys, too. It is too soon to rank Leake #3 though?

Homer Bailey
07-20-2009, 02:00 PM
I like those guys, too. It is too soon to rank Leake #3 though?

Considering he isn't in the minors, I would think he would not belong on this list.

PopFlyHomer
07-20-2009, 02:07 PM
Anyone know why Wood is still pitching at double-A? You can't tell me there's no room in Louisville. Looking at the Southern League pitching leaders' stats, it is almost laughable how far ahead of the pack he is.

dougdirt
07-20-2009, 02:28 PM
My list, if we aren't including guys that aren't signed:

1. Stewart
2. Wood
3. Sulbaran
4. Ravin
5. A grouping of Fairel, Maloney, Horst, Smith and Klinker. They are all on just about the same level right now.

GIDP
07-20-2009, 02:31 PM
Stewart
Wood
Sulbaran

The rest

dougdirt
07-20-2009, 02:40 PM
Stewart
Wood
Sulbaran

The rest
Thats pretty much where I was at too. I think that 'the rest' has some candidates for guys who can help in the Majors as starters, but no one who profiles better than a #4 (outside of Ravin) and is in full season ball just yet or healthy (Lotzkar, Hildenbrandt, Buck etc).

GIDP
07-20-2009, 02:52 PM
Thats pretty much where I was at too. I think that 'the rest' has some candidates for guys who can help in the Majors as starters, but no one who profiles better than a #4 (outside of Ravin) and is in full season ball just yet or healthy (Lotzkar, Hildenbrandt, Buck etc).

Yep the ones left just arent that great or are just constantly injured.

mace
07-20-2009, 02:57 PM
It's early, but I think Tyler Cline has pitched his way into the conversation. If it's possible, he's even hotter than Wood. And Lee Tabor is working on it. A month from now, if they're still doing what they're doing, I think they join "the rest." And for what it's worth (admittedly, not much, since he's 21), Luis Machuca started the DSL all-star game (and lost).

dougdirt
07-20-2009, 03:08 PM
It's early, but I think Tyler Cline has pitched his way into the conversation. If it's possible, he's even hotter than Wood. And Lee Tabor is working on it. A month from now, if they're still doing what they're doing, I think they join "the rest." And for what it's worth (admittedly, not much, since he's 21), Luis Machuca started the DSL all-star game (and lost).
Cline is in the picture, but I want to see things at the end of the year and get an up to date report on him. That said, he isn't hotter than Wood. Wood is doing the same thing as Cline, but in AA and racking up a lot more strikeouts while doing it.

As for Lee Tabor... say what? The guy has 2 good starts and he is working on joining some strong #4/5 MLB candidates?

GOYA
07-20-2009, 03:20 PM
Pitchers or prospects?

It makes a big difference where you put Sulbaran. Or Lehr, for that matter.

mace
07-20-2009, 03:21 PM
Cline is in the picture, but I want to see things at the end of the year and get an up to date report on him. That said, he isn't hotter than Wood. Wood is doing the same thing as Cline, but in AA and racking up a lot more strikeouts while doing it.

As for Lee Tabor... say what? The guy has 2 good starts and he is working on joining some strong #4/5 MLB candidates?

Yes, Tabor has only two good starts, which is why I said it's early. But they're the only starts he's had. I mean, the dude hasn't been scored on as a starter. What else can he do? If, like I said, he's still doing that in a month, he's in the conversation.

And certainly, Wood's credentials for the season are a lot stronger than Cline's, due to classification and duration. But in Cline's five starts, he's only once given up two runs. He's thrown three mini-shutouts. His ERA is 1.00, which is even better than Wood's. You can make a case that he's the hottest guy out there. And yes, Wood's in AA, and he's young for it. But Cline just turned 19.

Benihana
07-20-2009, 03:40 PM
Stewart
Wood
Sulbaran

The rest

x2

Add Leake and Boxberger to the mix and that's a pretty nice Top 5, although I wouldn't be shocked if Wood is traded in the next 10 days.

Fairel and Ravin are probably the best of the rest, but it's pretty difficult to distinguish at this point. Tyler Cline could be a guy to keep an eye on once he hits full season ball. It will be interesting to see if Lotzkar can recover his form next year.

icehole3
07-20-2009, 05:31 PM
Does anyone honestly think the Reds wont sign Leake??? Thats why I put him in my top 5, everyone put Alonso number 1 as soon as he was drafted, not saying Leake is in Alonso's ballpark just saying he belongs in the top 5

redsof72
07-20-2009, 05:49 PM
The player that has helped himself as much as anyone other than Wood and Stewart is Logan Ondrusek. I am hearing that he would be a likely addition to the 40-man after the season.

kfm
07-20-2009, 06:06 PM
Stewart
Wood
Sulbaran

The rest

That would be my list also.

mace
07-20-2009, 07:49 PM
The player that has helped himself as much as anyone other than Wood and Stewart is Logan Ondrusek. I am hearing that he would be a likely addition to the 40-man after the season.

Don't know what kind of authority he is, but when I was listening to the Carolina game a few nights ago, the announcer said that Ondrusek (pronounced it On-DREW-suk) was almost released in spring training, then found himself a cut fastball and became "definitely a major-league pitcher." If we're including relievers, yes, he clearly in the picture.

Kingspoint
07-20-2009, 09:09 PM
My current top five for 2009, not projections, but just how they're doing this year:

1. Zach Stewart
2. Travis Wood
3. Logan Ondrusek
4. Luis Machuca
5. Enerio Del Rosario

mth123
07-20-2009, 09:59 PM
Stewart, Wood, Smith, Fairel, Horst

lollipopcurve
07-21-2009, 09:20 AM
Not including Leake...

Stewart (though it will be a while till he can log a starter's workload)
Wood (completely unconscious this year -- he needs a promotion)
Sulbaran (interesting development test case for the Reds -- the stuff and head to compete are definitely there)
Maloney (I put stock in excellent AAA performance, and he looked pretty good in his starts for the Reds)
Lecure (flashing well now in AAA, still 25)

Screwball
07-21-2009, 10:39 AM
Wood
Stewart
Leake (he'll be signed)
Sulbaran
Lotzkar (numbers were exceptional for his age/level, plenty of time to come back from injury)

The rest won't amount to much, IMO.

BuckeyeRedleg
07-21-2009, 03:34 PM
I'm not sure why Fairel is not getting more recognition.

dougdirt
07-21-2009, 05:52 PM
I'm not sure why Fairel is not getting more recognition.

Probably because he has a fastball that hits 90 three or four times a game and is in low A.

BuckeyeRedleg
07-21-2009, 06:51 PM
1. Leake
2. Wood
3. Stewart
4. Sulbaran

5T Boxberger
5T Fairel

I like Stewart, but his K numbers (less than one per IP) keep me from rating him as high as everyone else.

Betterread
07-21-2009, 09:05 PM
1. Stewart
2. Wood
3. Sulbaran
4. Smith
5. Josh Ravin