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mace
07-21-2009, 01:05 PM
I'm not adept enough to do it, but if anybody's so inclined and it's not a great deal of trouble, it would be interesting to periodically see the Reds' minor-league leaders in various categories (including the rookie teams). The top 10-20 in such as . . .

Hitting:

AB
H
Ave
OBP
Slg
OPS
BB
HR
Total Bases
RBI
SB
K/AB
Whatever Else

Pitching:

IP
ERA
WHIP
K
K/9
BB/9
Sv
Whatever Else

camisadelgolf
07-21-2009, 08:50 PM
Hitting:

Chris Heisey 399 PA
Chris Heisey 117 H
Chris Heisey .340 BA
Chris Heisey .413 OBP
Chris Heisey .561 SLG
Chris Heisey .974 OPS
Byron Wiley 47 BB
Kevin Barker 17 HR
Chris Heisey 193 TB
Chris Heisey, Juan Francisco 56 RBI
Drew Stubbs 36 SB
Petr Cech 6.45 K% (only 31 PA)
Norris Hopper 3.88 K% (no longer in the organization)
Miguel Rojas 8.50 K%

Pitching:

Travis Wood 119.0 IP
Travis Wood 1.21 ERA
Tyler Cline 0.852 WHIP (only 27 IP)
Enerio Del Rosario 0.920 WHIP
Travis Wood 103 K
Justin Walker 8.6 K/9 (only 25 IP)
Jeremy Ware 0.5 BB/9 (only 18 IP)
Josh Roenicke 11 SV

mace
07-21-2009, 09:00 PM
Thanks, man. Would still love to see a list 10-20 deep on those categories, but that's a good start. One interesting number is Miguel Rojas' K rate. Another is Wiley's walks.

Also, the DSL club has a guy named Porfirio Martinez with 11 saves. He's 19 years old.

Homer Bailey
07-22-2009, 09:47 AM
So Chris Heisey is doing pretty well this year?

Is there a link that sorts those stats Morrissey?

camisadelgolf
07-22-2009, 01:39 PM
So Chris Heisey is doing pretty well this year?

Is there a link that sorts those stats Morrissey?
Here's what I used:
http://www.baseball-reference.com/teams/CIN/2009-organization-batting.shtml
http://www.baseball-reference.com/teams/CIN/2009-organization-pitching.shtml

mace
07-22-2009, 01:55 PM
Holy cow, that's awesome. Who knew? (Well, you, obviously . . . and Doug, I'm sure . . . )

mace
07-22-2009, 02:16 PM
OK, then, I've got time for the top 20 in OBP. Minimum 50 PA--which isn't much, but the rookie leagues haven't been going on all that long.

Ricardo Quintero 417
Chris Heisey 411
Christopher Richburg 408
Byron Wiley 392
Yimmy Lopez 388
William Moreno 385
Theodis Bowe 381
Josh Fellhauer 378
Zack Cozart 370
Todd Frazier 368
Shane Carlson 368
Drew Stubbs 367
Drew Sutton 367
Chris Denove 364
Kevin Barker 362
Yonder Alonso 360
Efrain Contreras 358
Yorman Rodriguez 354
Henry Rodriguez 351
Kyle Day 349
Mariekson (Dee Dee) Gregorius 349
Ronald Galindez 349

Homer Bailey
07-22-2009, 03:27 PM
OK, then, I've got time for the top 20 in OBP. Minimum 50 PA--which isn't much, but the rookie leagues haven't been going on all that long.

Ricardo Quintero 417
Chris Heisey 411
Christopher Richburg 408
Byron Wiley 392
Yimmy Lopez 388
William Moreno 385
Theodis Bowe 381
Josh Fellhauer 378
Zack Cozart 370
Todd Frazier 368
Shane Carlson 368
Drew Stubbs 367
Drew Sutton 367
Chris Denove 364
Kevin Barker 362
Yonder Alonso 360
Efrain Contreras 358
Yorman Rodriguez 354
Henry Rodriguez 351
Kyle Day 349
Mariekson (Dee Dee) Gregorius 349
Ronald Galindez 349


It's a shame that the people that actually matter don't care about this stat.

Plus Plus
07-22-2009, 04:14 PM
Is there a way to post these guys' "in scoring position percentage?" I heard from Dusty that this is a very important stat in valuing players.

dougdirt
07-22-2009, 04:35 PM
Is there a way to post these guys' "in scoring position percentage?" I heard from Dusty that this is a very important stat in valuing players.

Lol! :thumbup:

mace
07-22-2009, 05:58 PM
Slugging Pct:

Chris Heisey 560
Darnell McDonald 556
Kevin Barker 518
Josh Fellhauer 515
Todd Frazier 507
Byron Wiley 506
Yonder Alonso 470
Carlos Sanchez 466
Drew Sutton 464
Cody Puckett 463
Sean Conner 457
Juan Francisco 451
Daniel Dorn 445
Wes Bankston 444
Danny Richar 442
Zack Cozart 443
Brian Peterson 437
Sean Henry 419
Humberto Sosa 415
Chris Denove 407
David Sappelt 400

I was kind of whimsical about including guys who have been in Cincinnati. Had I included Rosales and Gomes, they'd be 1-2. I included Richar, McDonald and Sutton because they've played the great majority of the season in Louisville.

mace
07-22-2009, 11:22 PM
OPS:

Chris Heisey 971
Byron Wiley 898
Darnell McDonald 894
Josh Fellhauer 893
Kevin Barker 880
Todd Frazier 875
Drew Sutton 837
Yonder Alonso 830
Zack Cozart 803
Cody Puckett 791
Carlos Sanchez 778
Chris Denove 770
Daniel Dorn 767
Danny Richar 767
Theodis Bowe 766
Humberto Sosa 760
Sean Conner 759
Sean Henry 750
William Moreno 750
Wes Bankston 744

Again, Rosales and Gomes would be way up there. And Darnell McDonald is having a pretty nice year.

The biggest surprise, to me, is Chris Denove.

mace
07-22-2009, 11:42 PM
WHIP

9-30 IP

Harold Johnson .667
Nathan Driessen .800
Ezequiel Infante .812
Tzu-Kai Chiu .825
Carlos Fisher .833
Tyler Cline .852
Donnie Joseph .857
Chris Kelly .931
Jesus Adames 1.000
Ben Davis 1.029

> 30 IP

Luis Machuca .871
Justin Lehr .884
Enerio Del Rosario .920
Logan Ondrusek .934
Travis Wood .966
Robert Manuel .977
Mace Thurman 1.051
Matt Maloney 1.059
Jeff Kennard 1.128
Scott Carroll 1.140
Starlin Gerson 1.142
Steven Otterness 1.150
Sam Lecure 1.189
Zach Stewart 1.213
Lance Janke 1.227

mace
07-23-2009, 12:08 AM
K / BB:

9 -30 IP

Jeremy Ware 16.00
Tzu-Kai Chiu 9.00
Justin Walker 8.00
Ben Davis 7.00
Nathan Driessen 6.00
Blair Carson 6.00
Josh Roenicke 5.80
Carlos Fisher 5.25
Ezequiel Infante 4.00
Brian Pearl 4.00

> 30 IP

Matt Maloney 6.85
Justin Freeman 5.80
Enerio Del Rosario 5.50
Matt Klinker 4.73
Robert Manuel 4.00
Justin Lehr 3.60
Lance Janke 3.43
Zach Stewart 3.30
Jordan Hotchkiss 3.08
Homer Bailey 3.04
Mace Thurman 3.00
Jeff Kennard 3.00
Matt Fairel 2.81
Travis Wood 2.78
Sam Lecure 2.72

mace
07-23-2009, 12:13 AM
BTW, this link is organized slightly differently than the other, in that it lists everybody in the system in one chart.

http://www.baseball-reference.com/minors/affiliate.cgi?id=CIN&year=2009

mace
07-25-2009, 02:16 PM
I realize that RBIs are not a rock-solid stat--luck and lineups and all--but I do think that certain guys have a knack for them. And I think Juan Francisco is one.

Anyway, here's RBIs:

Juan Francisco 60
Chris Heisey 56
Todd Frazier 54
Cody Puckett 54
Byron Wiley 50
Wes Bankston 49
Kevin Barker 46
Yonder Alonso 45
Denis Phipps 44
Zack Cozart 44
Carlos Mendez 40
Neftali Soto 35
David Sappelt 35
Miguel Rojas 33
A Bunch of Guys 31

mace
07-25-2009, 02:20 PM
HR:

Juan Francisco 18
Kevin Barker 17
Chris Heisey 16
Cody Puckett 15
Wes Bankston 13
Todd Frazier 12
Daniel Dorn 11
Byron Wiley 10
Jonny Gomes 9
Sean Henry 9
Neftali Soto 9
Zack Cozart 9
Yonder Alonso 8
Darnell McDonald 7

Kc61
07-25-2009, 02:38 PM
Francisco is a misunderstood prospect. He doesn't walk, a real problem. He makes lots of errors at third, a real problem.

But for a power hitter, he seems to make good contact especially with men on base. He also has a high RBI total every year. And lots of extra base hits.

His strikeout numbers are not low, but for a power hitter they are pretty reasonable.

This is why I've always supported him on RedsZone. Like you say, he has a knack.

He's probably a year younger than his level indicates. My guess is he stays at AA next year and tries to show some polish and advancement.

I still consider him a top ten Reds prospect, although to read RedsZone you would think he's just a scrub.

mace
07-25-2009, 02:41 PM
ERA:

9 - 30 IP

Donnie Joseph 0.68
Tyler Cline 1.00
Tzu-Kai Chiu 1.10
Harold Johnson 1.38
Raul Rodriguez 1.50
Mark Serrano 1.88
Nathan Driessen 1.89
Derrik Lutz 1.99
Pedro Villarreal 2.14
Jose Marizan 2.25
Eqezuiel Infante 2.25
Marcos Molina 3.00

> 30 IP

Travis Wood 1.21
Logan Ondrusek 1.40
Zach Stewart 1.62
Luis Machuca 1.72
Radhames Quezada 1.84
Enerio Del Rosario 2.04
Mace Thurman 2.40
Robert Manuel 2.40
Justin Lehr 2.48
Josh Beal 2.50
Matt Maloney 2.51
Joseph Krebs 2.55
Jeff Kennard 2.72
Philippe Valiquette 2.79
James Avery 2.89
Matt Fairel 3.04
Jordan Hotchkiss 3.04

Brutus
07-26-2009, 12:13 AM
I like Drew Stubbs. Love his future ability as a leadoff hitter, actually.

But I still have a hard time seeing why anyone could take him right now over Chris Heisey. That boy has done everything humanly expected or asked of him. He's moved up to AAA, on the same level as Stubbs, and barely skipped a beat. If, and I don't think this will happen but it's nice to think about, he can maintain this power, why not envision an outfield of Heisey, Stubbs and Bruce? Move Frazier to third. Trade Alonso and therein you have your future Reds, provided they can find a shortstop (or maybe Doug's wish comes true and that winds up being Cozart).

GIDP
07-26-2009, 12:22 AM
Francisco is a misunderstood prospect. He doesn't walk, a real problem. He makes lots of errors at third, a real problem.

But for a power hitter, he seems to make good contact especially with men on base. He also has a high RBI total every year. And lots of extra base hits.

His strikeout numbers are not low, but for a power hitter they are pretty reasonable.

This is why I've always supported him on RedsZone. Like you say, he has a knack.

He's probably a year younger than his level indicates. My guess is he stays at AA next year and tries to show some polish and advancement.

I still consider him a top ten Reds prospect, although to read RedsZone you would think he's just a scrub.

Potential is the big deal with Fransisco. He has such amazing power but power will only get you so far. He could turn into a very good player or he could turn into the pitching version of Daniel Cabrera.

kjohnson88
07-26-2009, 01:16 AM
Yonder Alonso still has the eighth-most RBI's even though he's already missed over a month due to an injury.

mace
08-20-2009, 09:34 AM
Update -- OBP

(arbitrarily started at 130 plate appearances, since Rosales has 125)

1. Byron Wiley 399
2. Henry Rodriguez 390
3. Juan Silva 382
4. Chris Heisey 391
5. Drew Sutton 381
6. Kevin Barker 376
7. Miguel Chacoa 373
8. Ronald Galindez 369
9. Zach Cozart 361
10. Humberto Sosa 357
Darnell McDonald 357
12. Josh Fellhauer 355
13. Yonder Alonso 354
14. Drew Stubbs 353
15. Todd Frazier 352
16. D.D. Gregorius 351
17. Chris Denove 350
18. Ariel Baez 348
19. Carlos Mendez 340
20. Samuel Diaz 339
21. Danny Dorn 337
Kyle Day 337
Kevin Coddington 337
24. Yorman Rodriguez 333
25. David Sappelt 330
Danny Richar 330

Rookie leaguers who would be included but are a few PAs short: Efrain Contreras 395, William Moreno 390, Theodis Bowe 384, Chris Richburg 382, Jose Quintero 379

mace
08-21-2009, 11:35 AM
Starting Pitchers WHIP

(minimum 5 starts)

1. Mark Serrano 0.846
2. Justin Lehr 8.889
3. Tyler Cline 0.987
4. Jacob Johnson 1.009
5. Travis Wood 1.036
6. Luis Machuca 1.116
7. Starlin Gerson 1.158
8. Matt Maloney 1.161
9. Justin Walker 1.181
10. (Zach Stewart) 1.233
11. Pedro Villareal 1.250
12. Jonathan Correa 1.258
13. Sam Lecure 1.264
14. Lance Janke 1.271
15. Scott Carroll 1.279
16. Matt Klinker 1.280
16. Tom Cochran 1.280
18. Matt Fairel 1.282
19. James Avery 1.286
20. Radhames Quezada 1.294

redsmetz
08-21-2009, 12:08 PM
I know it's early on some of these guys, but the numbers being posted by some this year aren't too bad, are they?

mace
08-21-2009, 03:44 PM
Relievers WHIP

(minimum 20 innings. less than 5 starts.)

1. Donnie Joseph 0.900
2. Logan Ondrusek 0.910
3. Enerio Del Rosario 0.941
4. Tzu-Kai Chiu 9.89
5. Ezequiel Infante 1.000
-- Nathan Driessen 1.000
7. Mace Thurman 1.027
8. Jordan Hotchkiss 1.119
9. Jeff Kennard 1.184
10. Jesus Adames 1.200
11. Steve Otterness 1.204
12. Joe Krebs 1.229
13. Philippe Valiquette 1.232
14. Derrik Lutz 1.235
15. Jose Marizan 1.300

camisadelgolf
08-24-2009, 11:06 AM
Does anyone think Jeff Kennard deserves a look before the season ends? He's had a long path to AAA, but he's done an excellent job since joining the Bats.

mth123
08-24-2009, 11:30 AM
Does anyone think Jeff Kennard deserves a look before the season ends? He's had a long path to AAA, but he's done an excellent job since joining the Bats.

I would not be surprised if he is recalled when Dickerson hits the DL. They dropped to 11 pitchers when Harang went on the DL and Rolen was activated. They'll use Dickerson's spot to add a pitcher IMO. Wells to the rotation; Kennard to the pen.

BEETTLEBUG
08-24-2009, 11:43 AM
Kennard is not on 40 list are they going to put Dickerson on 60DL to open roster for him?

mth123
08-24-2009, 11:44 AM
Kennard is not on 40 list are they going to put Dickerson on 60DL to open roster for him?

Nope but Harang, Richar or any of many others could be put there.

HokieRed
08-24-2009, 12:30 PM
Kennard is not on 40 list are they going to put Dickerson on 60DL to open roster for him?


Kennard was on DL himself. Has he come off?

redsmetz
08-24-2009, 01:47 PM
Kennard was on DL himself. Has he come off?

The Bats website shows him on the DL presently.

mace
08-24-2009, 02:14 PM
I'd think Ramon Ramirez would be a candidate.