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FlyerFanatic
07-23-2009, 01:52 PM
The St. Louis Cardinals and Oakland Athletics have been talking about a possible swap of All-Star outfielder Matt Holliday and top prospect Brett Wallace, according to sources, and one person familiar with the talks places the odds of a deal at 50-50.

http://sports.espn.go.com/mlb/news/story?id=4350887&campaign=rss&source=twitter&ex_cid=Twitter_espn_4350887

GIDP
07-23-2009, 01:54 PM
good news for us especially if he walks at the end of the year.

texasdave
07-23-2009, 02:01 PM
..while Walt slumbers on.

OesterPoster
07-23-2009, 02:14 PM
I wouldn't like that deal, if I'm a Cards fan.

texasdave
07-23-2009, 02:45 PM
I do that if I am the Cardinals 11 times out of 10. Matt Holliday after a slow start is OPSing over .830 in a pitcher's park. That works out to a 125+ OPS. He is only 29 so should have several peak seasons of prime value left.
Brett Wallace turns 23 in a month and is OPSing about .780 in the hit-happy PCL. Not overly impressive for a corner infielder if you ask me.

The Cardinal organization has the money to resign him. And if they don't, they get two first round/supplemental first round picks.

Having Matt Holliday definitely improves their chances of reaching and doing something when they reach the playoffs.

If they reach the playoffs this season the income they will derive from that more than pays the remainder of Holliday's contract for 2009.

And isn't making the playoffs what the game is all about?

Where is the downside for St. Louis?

WildcatFan
07-24-2009, 11:56 AM
Tim Kurkjian is saying that the deal will go through as soon as the two teams decide on who will pay Holliday the final $6 million on his contract. Looks like the Reds are playing for next year if we didn't know that already.

GIDP
07-24-2009, 11:58 AM
Cardinals better hope they resign him because they are going nuts with this deal. Hell even if they resign him given that its going to take a lot of money they are taking a massive hit.

Gizmo
07-24-2009, 12:10 PM
done deal now.

Royals Fan
07-24-2009, 12:10 PM
Espn is reporting the deal is done.Cards are team to best now in the Central.

CySeymour
07-24-2009, 12:24 PM
Espn is reporting the deal is done.Cards are team to best now in the Central.

And his first series will be in Philly...nice ballpark for a hitter to make his debut with a team.

texasdave
07-24-2009, 12:28 PM
While Walt sits on his hands. So, all along, when Walt was making those big pickups in St. Louis it wasn't really Walt, it was the Cardinal organization.

TheBigLebowski
07-24-2009, 12:32 PM
While I am indeed disillusioned with Walt, this might not be a bad thing for us. STL gave up 3 prospects for Holliday, whose deal expires at the end of the year. We all know we weren't winning the central this year anyway. Matters not if we lose to STL by 5 or 15 games. Best case scenario - STL forfeits Brett Wallace and two other fine prospects for a rental and he walks in 2010.

However, if STL manages to sign him to a LTC, we're in trouble. We can't counter stuff like that with another off-season that nets us guys like Guillermo Tavares and Laynce Nix.

GIDP
07-24-2009, 12:42 PM
My biggest problem with this is that we play the Cardinals a few more times this year and George Grande will be having extra large orgasms.

jmac
07-24-2009, 12:42 PM
Pujols/Holiday/Derosa etc.....Oh well. at least the Cubs wont win the division.

TheBigLebowski
07-24-2009, 12:43 PM
My biggest problem with this is that we play the Cardinals a few more times this year and George Grande will be having extra large orgasms.

Probably the only action he's getting. I'm happy for him.

GIDP
07-24-2009, 12:45 PM
http://redsintern.mlblogs.com/GeorgeChris1.JPG

TheBigLebowski
07-24-2009, 01:03 PM
That is some big picture..

texasdave
07-24-2009, 01:05 PM
That is some big picture..

LOL. I thought it was just my Redszone that was messed up. That there is a grand Grande. :)
Attack of the 50-foot broadcaster!

bounty37h
07-24-2009, 01:35 PM
thats what winners do, make their team better one way or another. Losers sit still and make excuses or blame others. which way will the reds go?

FlyerFanatic
07-24-2009, 01:39 PM
thats what winners do, make their team better one way or another. Losers sit still and make excuses or blame others. which way will the reds go?

you kidding me? we got A-gon back! let the winning commence! :D

TippyDrunks
07-24-2009, 02:20 PM
AP source: Holliday going from A’s to Cards
By JANIE McCAULEY, AP Sports Writer
23 minutes ago

Buzz up!2 votes PrintOAKLAND, Calif. (AP)—A person with knowledge of the deal says the Oakland Athletics have completed a trade to send outfielder Matt Holliday(notes) to the St. Louis Cardinals.

The person spoke to The Associated Press on condition of anonymity Friday because an announcement had yet to be made.

The Athletics will receive a package of prospects, highlighted by third baseman Brett Wallace(notes), according to ESPN.com, which first reported the deal.

The first-place Cardinals have been looking to add another hitter to support Albert Pujols(notes). Holliday has struggled in his first season with the A’s, batting .286 with 11 homers and 54 RBIs.