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redhawk61
07-26-2009, 11:42 AM
I say yes, with the degree of which being determined if he can clear a contract in Harang or Arroyo. If he can, Rolen will be a red. If he can't, all we might see is Weathers or Rhodes dealt for w/e.

texasdave
07-26-2009, 03:37 PM
I bet we trade Flotsam and get Jetsam in return.

FlyerFanatic
07-26-2009, 03:50 PM
no, nothing will be done. injuries will be the excuse from the FO for this seasons disaster.

Aces Wild
07-26-2009, 03:53 PM
Yes, but I doubt it's anything more than a reliever (Rhodes or Weaver). I doubt we see the big moves that rids us of Harang, Cordero, or Arroyo until the off season.

GIDP
07-26-2009, 04:28 PM
No.

BLEEDS
07-27-2009, 11:01 AM
YES.
But with Micah heading to the DL, no starting pitching gets moved IMO, until the off-season.

I do think we move a reliever or two though, I just hope it's NOT Rhodes, he is cheap for 2010 and has a solid role with us. I think Weathers gets moved.

I do also think he is looking to get Rolen. Rumors were they wanted to "make some other moves first" allegedly to get rid of some payroll, so we may just end up giving up another prospect with EE to get them to throw in some cash.
To me, that is the move to set us up for 2010/2011 - gg caliber D at 3b with minimal dropoff in offense if any, and setting the stage for 2011 for Frazier.

So, bottom line, something will go down, may be minor (Weathers) or something a tad more (Rolen), but I fully expect a HUGE move this off-season to really change the face of this roster. Of course I felt that way last off-season too.
With a HEALTHY team, we have a lot of Starting Pitching, and still a huge void in LF.
Harang
Arroyo
Volquez
Cueto
Bailey
Owings
Leake

That's 7 starting pitchers who could make any teams 4 deep. I expect Leake to be fast-tracked if not start out of the gate, he is that good. No way we go into 2010 with Harang AND Arroyo IMO. Alonso is also a great trading piece, since Votto's not going anywhere for a decade I'd assume... Moves must be made, it's Dusty's last season and Jocketty needs to do what he was brought here to do, make that big trade that we all applaud!

PEACE

-BLEEDS

BEETTLEBUG
07-27-2009, 11:13 AM
It will be very little since they are done this year sad to say nine years and counting.

texasdave
07-27-2009, 12:03 PM
If Micah Owings being on the DL stops Walt from moving either Harang or Arroyo, he should be fired immediately. Micah is a #5 at best. At his very best. Nothing he does or doesn't do should affect how the Reds handle the Harang/Arroyo/trade deadline situation.

BLEEDS
07-27-2009, 12:08 PM
If Micah Owings being on the DL stops Walt from moving either Harang or Arroyo, he should be fired immediately. Micah is a #5 at best. At his very best. Nothing he does or doesn't do should affect how the Reds handle the Harang/Arroyo/trade deadline situation.

That's being short-sighted. You've got to have pitchers to pitch innings.

If Micah goes to the DL, and Volquez doesn't come back this year, who is going to get all the innings? Maloney? another rookie?

Cueto
Arroyo
Bailey
Maloney
TBD

is not going to get us through the rest of the year, let alone next week...

The question was, does he make a move this week. I say no SP gets moved this week.

PEACE

-BLEEDS

texasdave
07-27-2009, 01:27 PM
Maloney, Lehr, Ramirez. Hell bring up Kip Wells if you want. I can't imagine it would be too hard to scrounge up some vet that is aching for another chance to finish out the season.

I would call worrying about who is going to eat meaningless innings in a meaningless season rather than getting the best possible deal for Arroyo and/or Harang the short-sighted approach.

If you get the offer you want for either of them you most certainly pull the trigger on that deal.

Are you gonna sit there and tell me if the Dodgers called you up and said Harang plus fillers for Kemp plus fillers sounds good to them you would say no?

And say no because you are worried about who is going to pitch some meaningless innings down the stretch?

Now that would be the short-sighted approach.

I am neither advocating nor expecting a starting pitcher to be traded. But you dangle them both and if the offer is a good one for the Reds, the status of Micah Owings' shoulder is the very least of my concerns.

sammonator
07-27-2009, 01:48 PM
Maloney, Lehr, Ramirez. Hell bring up Kip Wells if you want. I can't imagine it would be too hard to scrounge up some vet that is aching for another chance to finish out the season.

I would call worrying about who is going to eat meaningless innings in a meaningless season rather than getting the best possible deal for Arroyo and/or Harang the short-sighted approach.

If you get the offer you want for either of them you most certainly pull the trigger on that deal.

Are you gonna sit there and tell me if the Dodgers called you up and said Harang plus fillers for Kemp plus fillers sounds good to them you would say no?

And say no because you are worried about who is going to pitch some meaningless innings down the stretch?

Now that would be the short-sighted approach.

I am neither advocating nor expecting a starting pitcher to be traded. But you dangle them both and if the offer is a good one for the Reds, the status of Micah Owings' shoulder is the very least of my concerns.


Good Post. And I 100% agree.

redlegs2370
07-27-2009, 02:09 PM
The question states will Walt make any moves by July 31st. I definitely think they will make some kind of move by the 31st deadline.