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Red in Chicago
07-26-2009, 12:56 PM
Per Fay:

Lineup:
Chris Dickerson 9
Willy Taveras 8
Joey Votto 3
Brandon Phillips 4
Edwin Encarnacion 5
Jonny Gomes 7
Alex Gonzalez 6
Craig Tatum 2
Micah Owings 1

Will M
07-26-2009, 02:59 PM
Here is why we don't win. OPS+ is listed ahead of the player.

90 Chris Dickerson 9
55 Willy Taveras 8
168 Joey Votto 3
106 Brandon Phillips 4
82 Edwin Encarnacion 5
144 Jonny Gomes 7
43 Alex Gonzalez 6
-100 Craig Tatum 2

So we have two good hitters & one decent hitter in the lineup. Taveras & Gonzo are beyong abyssmal yet they have 558 PAs this year. This is yet another game I won't waste my time watching.

nate
07-26-2009, 03:05 PM
Chat is open!

SirFelixCat
07-26-2009, 03:06 PM
Here is why we don't win. OPS+ is listed ahead of the player.

90 Chris Dickerson 9
55 Willy Taveras 8
168 Joey Votto 3
106 Brandon Phillips 4
82 Edwin Encarnacion 5
144 Jonny Gomes 7
43 Alex Gonzalez 6
-100 Craig Tatum 2

So we have two good hitters & one decent hitter in the lineup. Taveras & Gonzo are beyong abyssmal yet they have 558 PAs this year. This is yet another game I won't waste my time watching.

Not that we haven't all beaten this horse to death, ten times over, but LOL @ Willy T and Agon LOL!

SirFelixCat
07-26-2009, 03:25 PM
Well, this is novel...9 pitches and counting to start the game for Dickerson's AB. Great job to start the game, imo.

SirFelixCat
07-26-2009, 03:26 PM
On the 10th pitch he grounds out back to Harden. 1 down.

SirFelixCat
07-26-2009, 03:26 PM
I'll call it now...Willy either K's or pops out to SS...whatcha think?

SirFelixCat
07-26-2009, 03:28 PM
I'll call it now...Willy either K's or pops out to SS...whatcha think?

FAIL!

F9...2 down.

Reds Fanatic
07-26-2009, 03:29 PM
Votto homers to right! 1-0 Reds

SirFelixCat
07-26-2009, 03:29 PM
Votto. A man among boys.


1-0 good guys.

The Baumer
07-26-2009, 03:30 PM
Imagine if you were by far the only professional player on a major league team?

11larkin11
07-26-2009, 03:30 PM
Odds on the Cubs scoring in the bottom of the first? Seems this has been happening alot lately.

SirFelixCat
07-26-2009, 03:32 PM
4-3 GO. thru 0.5, 1-0 Reds.


now the Reds have allowed at least 1 run in the 1st inning in every game post-ASB, save for one. Anyone wanna make any predictions here?

SirFelixCat
07-26-2009, 03:33 PM
Odds on the Cubs scoring in the bottom of the first? Seems this has been happening alot lately.

I'm making the line 3:1 that the Cubs DO NOT score in the first.

Reds Fanatic
07-26-2009, 03:34 PM
Odds on the Cubs scoring in the bottom of the first? Seems this has been happening alot lately.
They had a section in the paper today on who bad the Reds pitchers have been in the first. The Reds have a 7.30 ERA in the first inning.

SirFelixCat
07-26-2009, 03:34 PM
Fuka: F8. 1 down.

SirFelixCat
07-26-2009, 03:36 PM
single up the middle.

SirFelixCat
07-26-2009, 03:37 PM
F8, 2 outs...it's not over yet...

11larkin11
07-26-2009, 03:38 PM
single up the middle.

Holy bad range Batman!

Reds Fanatic
07-26-2009, 03:40 PM
Great catch by Dickerson against the ivy to end the inning. 1-0 Reds after 1.

SirFelixCat
07-26-2009, 03:40 PM
HOLY!!!


Drilled to the wall, Dickerson jumps and makes the catch against the ivy, and the CUBS DO NOT SCORE?


End of the world coming?

11larkin11
07-26-2009, 03:41 PM
HOLY!!!


Drilled to the wall, Dickerson jumps and makes the catch against the ivy, and the CUBS DO NOT SCORE?


End of the world coming?

Reds win. Book it.

SirFelixCat
07-26-2009, 03:42 PM
Holy bad range Batman!

You say this like you're surprised. AGon is great on the balls that he can get to, but he has no range and no stick. These are things that are and will always be. ;)

SirFelixCat
07-26-2009, 03:43 PM
EdE whiffs. 1 out

SirFelixCat
07-26-2009, 03:44 PM
Reds win. Book it.

I'd normally agree, but they'd have to have that 1 run hold up, since Harang isn't playing today. Doesn't look good....:p:

Homer Bailey
07-26-2009, 03:47 PM
Fastball to Gonzo and they are in commercial break by the time he swings at it.

SirFelixCat
07-26-2009, 03:47 PM
F8, 2 down.


Agon is overmatched and whiffs on a fastball right down broadway.

That's that.

SirFelixCat
07-26-2009, 03:48 PM
Fastball to Gonzo and they are in commercial break by the time he swings at it.

I like this much better

VR
07-26-2009, 03:50 PM
In honor of Rickey Henderson's induction into the HOF today,
VR is recommending everyone post at least once in the 3rd person today.

membengal
07-26-2009, 03:51 PM
membengal ducks into this game thread to comply with VR's excellent suggestion.

11larkin11
07-26-2009, 03:54 PM
Reds win. Book it.

11larkin11 retracts his previous statement

VR
07-26-2009, 03:55 PM
Owings needs to get through Fontenot, Hill and Harden here. No reason these guys should beat you.

11larkin11
07-26-2009, 03:56 PM
Owings is getting squeezed on that outside corner. I think those are mostly strikes

VR
07-26-2009, 03:57 PM
I caught the end of Welsh going on about Owings stuff looking so nasty in the bullpen, but it doesn't convey to that on the mound. Anyone catch the entire context of that?

Homer Bailey
07-26-2009, 03:58 PM
I caught the end of Welsh going on about Owings stuff looking so nasty in the bullpen, but it doesn't convey to that on the mound. Anyone catch the entire context of that?

Just digging for some sort of encouraging news.

VR
07-26-2009, 03:59 PM
Owings is getting squeezed on that outside corner. I think those are mostly strikes

I think you are right lark......but until you can show consistent control.....the ump is not going to give you those calls. He just pitches way to much on the periphery.

SirFelixCat
07-26-2009, 04:01 PM
LOL

SirFelixCat
07-26-2009, 04:02 PM
And Owings walks the #8 and #1 hitters to walk in a run, and wasn't close on either batter.



The winning starts now!

CTA513
07-26-2009, 04:02 PM
LOL

:beerme:

Reds Fanatic
07-26-2009, 04:02 PM
The tying run is walked in. 1-1

LoganBuck
07-26-2009, 04:03 PM
Hal McCoy says Micah Owings high school coach is in attendance and watching. His coach said that Micah walked three kids in high school.

Dick Pole on the way to mound to talk about clam chowder, but forgets which one to ask about, New England or Manhattan style.

Reds Fanatic
07-26-2009, 04:05 PM
Votto makes the catch in foul territory to end the inning

LoganBuck
07-26-2009, 04:09 PM
Tatum has the Darnell McDonald totally overmatched look at the plate.

SirFelixCat
07-26-2009, 04:12 PM
My God that was an embarrassing AB by Dickerson. Wow! I know that I shouldn't be surprised at this point, but the Reds find new ways to make me surprised...and not in good ways.

Reds Fanatic
07-26-2009, 04:12 PM
Harden strikes out the side and has struck out 5 of the last 6 batters.

Reds Fanatic
07-26-2009, 04:16 PM
2 straight fly outs to the track in center.

Reds Fanatic
07-26-2009, 04:20 PM
4th walk of the game by Owings.

CTA513
07-26-2009, 04:20 PM
Owings has already walked 4 batters

Reds Fanatic
07-26-2009, 04:21 PM
Soriano doubles in a run. 2-1 Cubs.

VR
07-26-2009, 04:21 PM
He's got to quit trying to throw that cutter/ slider over the inside corner for a strike. He's overthrowing it....and isn't coming within 3 feet of the plate.

That's why you don't walk the guys hitting .208.

Reds Fanatic
07-26-2009, 04:23 PM
The inning ends as Fontenot pops out to Owings.

Reds Fanatic
07-26-2009, 04:29 PM
Reds go down 1-2-3. Harden has now retired 10 in a row.

Gallen5862
07-26-2009, 04:29 PM
Gallen5862 complies with the 3rd person request. How close to the strikezone is Owings with his walks? Does he look wild?

JaxRed
07-26-2009, 04:31 PM
Wow they pulled Micah. Announcers say injury because Carlos getting as much time as he needs

SirFelixCat
07-26-2009, 04:31 PM
Owings is hurt or sick. Pulled after 3IP

Reds Fanatic
07-26-2009, 04:31 PM
Owings is out of the game for some reason..

alloverjr
07-26-2009, 04:32 PM
Owings is out of the game for
some reason.

Ineffectiveness? I know that's assuredly not the reason, but it would be kind of cool if it was.

VR
07-26-2009, 04:36 PM
Gallen5862 complies with the 3rd person request. How close to the strikezone is Owings with his walks? Does he look wild?

Nibbles throughout...then missing badly for ball four.

Reds Fanatic
07-26-2009, 04:37 PM
Fisher comes in and retires the Cubs 1-2-3.

VR
07-26-2009, 04:38 PM
Carlos Fisher throws a very solid inning.

Reds Fanatic
07-26-2009, 04:38 PM
According to the Cubs announcers Rickey never referred to himself in the 3rd person in his Hall of Fame induction speech. That has to be the upset of the day.

RedsManRick
07-26-2009, 04:38 PM
Given his wildness on that slider, perhaps it's an elbow thing...

Reds Fanatic
07-26-2009, 04:43 PM
That is now 6 Ks and 13 in a row retired by Harden.

Homer Bailey
07-26-2009, 04:43 PM
Alex Gonzalez is truly one of the worst hitters I have ever seen.

VR
07-26-2009, 04:48 PM
Alex Gonzalez is truly one of the worst hitters I have ever seen.

Could have easily beat that 3rd strike to 1st if he ran. Oh well, he was a stylin at least.

VR
07-26-2009, 04:52 PM
Cards getting rocked 9-2, although DeRosa, Holliday, Lugo are a combined 5-7 with walk and 2 ribbies.

Owings...tightness in his right shoulder.

SirFelixCat
07-26-2009, 04:52 PM
Owings w/ "tightness in his pitching shoulder".

alexad
07-26-2009, 04:53 PM
There goes the trade talk of Harang and Arroyo out the door. They will have to stay so we can have a pitching staff for the rest of the year.

TheNext44
07-26-2009, 04:56 PM
Pure conjecture, but maybe this injury sparks the Reds interest in moving Owings to the outfield. Sending him down to the minors for a year a la Ankeil?

VR
07-26-2009, 05:03 PM
Alright, VR is going to the gym before he falls asleep.

Reds Fanatic
07-26-2009, 05:03 PM
Now 8 Ks and 16 in a row retired by Harden.

CTA513
07-26-2009, 05:05 PM
Facing the Reds seems to help struggling pitchers.

LoganBuck
07-26-2009, 05:18 PM
Facing the Reds seems to help all struggling players.

Fixed that for you.

CTA513
07-26-2009, 05:29 PM
Massets got himself in trouble again.

2nd and 3rd with 0 outs.

CTA513
07-26-2009, 05:31 PM
3-1 Cubs with runners at 1st and 3rd and 0 outs.

Kc61
07-26-2009, 05:40 PM
3-1 Cubs, eighth inning. EE walks. That's the only baserunner other than the Votto homer for the Reds today.

It's really hard to believe how this team has just completely fallen apart. Maybe they can come back here, just for shock value.

Reds Fanatic
07-26-2009, 05:49 PM
Bases loaded with one out. Hairston pinch hittting.

nate
07-26-2009, 05:51 PM
No way. EE was safe!

nate
07-26-2009, 05:51 PM
Horrible call.

Reds Fanatic
07-26-2009, 05:52 PM
Horrible call. It looks like the catcher missed the tag at the plate but they call Edwin out.

SirFelixCat
07-26-2009, 05:52 PM
I'm speechless on that call. Laz Diaz confirms he's one of the worst in MLB!

RedsManRick
07-26-2009, 05:52 PM
Would replay on calls at the plate really be that bad? Sure stinks to make out #3 when the tag was never even applied. Getting it right should be priority #1. Just put another ump in a replay booth and be done with it. Ridiculous.

Red in Chicago
07-26-2009, 05:52 PM
Bases loaded with one out. Hairston pinch hittting.

Having JHJ come up as a pinch hitter with the bases loaded speaks volumes as to what this team has been reduced to.

The Baumer
07-26-2009, 05:53 PM
Best part was the Cubs announcers repeating how great the throw and tag was. And talking about how Dusty Baker is going to come out and get "his money's worth". Then they replayed the tag in slow motion and the Cubs announcers sat in silence they sheepishly cut to commercial without saying 1 word.

chicoruiz
07-26-2009, 05:54 PM
Yeah, but they shouldn't have sent him in the first place.

And I'd like to see Dusty get ticked off enough to get pitched. Maybe it would light a fire under this bunch.

nate
07-26-2009, 05:54 PM
I'd like to see Dusty get mad enough to get tossed on a call like that.

Kc61
07-26-2009, 05:54 PM
Not only was EE safe, but he never was tagged.

CTA513
07-26-2009, 05:55 PM
It was one of those "the ball beat him to the plate so hes out" calls.

The Baumer
07-26-2009, 05:55 PM
There is a lot of unintentional comedy in watching the Reds.

nate
07-26-2009, 05:56 PM
Great, now Dickerson is hurt on the try for the catch.

Reds Fanatic
07-26-2009, 05:56 PM
Now it looks like Dickerson may have just seperated his shoulder on the last play.

Kc61
07-26-2009, 05:56 PM
Dickerson hurt going after a triple.

RedsManRick
07-26-2009, 05:57 PM
In retrospect, why would even risk the play at the plate there? You're down two runs and there's already an out. The sac fly makes out #2, so even if the run scores, you're still going to need a base hit to score the tying run. Meanwhile, a guy with a good arm is catching the ball in short right center on the run...

SirFelixCat
07-26-2009, 05:57 PM
Completely cost the game for the Reds there on that bs call, or at least any chance they had.

Christ, the umpiring has really been atrocious this season MLB wide.

nate
07-26-2009, 05:57 PM
Dickerson comes out...totally awesome.

RedsManRick
07-26-2009, 05:57 PM
Dickerson coming out. Janish to SS, Hairston to RF?

nate
07-26-2009, 05:58 PM
Hairston goes to right and Janish comes in at SS.

nate
07-26-2009, 05:59 PM
In retrospect, why would even risk the play at the plate there? You're down two runs and there's already an out. The sac fly makes out #2, so even if the run scores, you're still going to need a base hit to score the tying run. Meanwhile, a guy with a good arm is catching the ball in short right center on the run...

I was surprised he was sent.

But man, the ump blew that one.

Kc61
07-26-2009, 05:59 PM
In retrospect, why would even risk the play at the plate there? You're down two runs and there's already an out. The sac fly makes out #2, so even if the run scores, you're still going to need a base hit to score the tying run. Meanwhile, a guy with a good arm is catching the ball in short right center on the run...

I'm not sure Fukadome has a good arm. Maybe somebody else knows.

It wasn't the ninth inning. If you have a chance to get within a run, you do it. It's the umpire's fault, not the decision to send him.

KoryMac5
07-26-2009, 06:01 PM
It was one of those "the ball beat him to the plate so hes out" calls.

An umpire said to Jeter a few weeks ago he doesn't have to tag you as long as the throw beats you to the bag. Then the umpire denied saying it. But as a whole the umpiring has been really bad lately.

SirFelixCat
07-26-2009, 06:01 PM
I'm not sure Fukadome has a good arm. Maybe somebody else knows.

It wasn't the ninth inning. If you have a chance to get within a run, you do it. It's the umpire's fault, not the decision to send him.

Exactly.

I mean, how do you miss that call that is right in front of you?!?

JaxRed
07-26-2009, 06:02 PM
They ought to be able to send umps to the minors.

nate
07-26-2009, 06:03 PM
Maybe Hill has one of those gloves with an "out force field" around it.

Reds Fanatic
07-26-2009, 06:14 PM
The 9th starts with singles by Janish and Taveras

CTA513
07-26-2009, 06:21 PM
Reds lose 5-2

Ron Madden
07-26-2009, 06:23 PM
This road trip has been a disaster. I'm glad it's over.

:(

Tony Cloninger
07-26-2009, 06:24 PM
The ump got into bad position to begin with......let's stand as far as away as possible from the play instead of behind the plate and closer to the play.

nate
07-26-2009, 06:25 PM
Seems like it's been a week since I've seen the Reds win.

Oh, wait...

CrackerJack
07-26-2009, 06:28 PM
All they need is Scott Rolen, the missing piece!

Raisor
07-26-2009, 08:50 PM
The plan is to go to GAB Saturday night and Sunday afternoon. Maybe we'll just go to Kings Island both days.