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GIDP
07-28-2009, 11:17 PM
Games with
0 runs scored: 1
1 run: 4
2 runs: 4
3 runs: 4
4 runs: 3
5 runs: 4
6 runs: 3
7 runs: 1

16 games this month where we scored 4 or less runs.

League average runs per game 4.43

Our runs per game this month 3.38

We are that bad.

Nati Nole
07-28-2009, 11:23 PM
How in the hell did they score 7 runs that one time? I honestly think they are the worst team in baseball right now. There's a very good chance they will end the year with the worst post All-Star break record in the entire league.

GIDP
07-28-2009, 11:23 PM
How in the hell did they score 7 runs that one time? I honestly think they are the worst team in baseball right now. There's a very good chance they will end the year with the worst post All-Star break record in the entire league.
Funny thing is they lost that game.

WeLoveLarkin!!!
07-28-2009, 11:28 PM
wow....absolutely horrid. my optimism has been completely shot the last couple of years. every season since 94' has been nothing but a huge disappointment. what did we have to look forward to? a choke artist performance in 2000; terrible FO decisions; and some mind boggling trades that never cease to amaze me. I would never leave or abandon the reds because they are my team, but they need to give us fans a reason to stay around. We as fans have been accepting minor moral victories too long, we need real victories and players who want to play with enthusiasm; for the love of the game and for the love of the fans.

WeLoveLarkin!!!
07-28-2009, 11:30 PM
Funny thing is they lost that game.

of course they did. because if they actually get their heads out of the clouds and start hitting, then the pitching is sure to disappoint.

GIDP
07-28-2009, 11:31 PM
We average 4.06 runs per game on the season.

Which is 3rd worst in the NL and last in our division.

GIDP
07-28-2009, 11:34 PM
of course they did. because if they actually get their heads out of the clouds and start hitting, then the pitching is sure to disappoint.

They have 5 wins in games they score 4 or less runs, and 3 when they score 5 or more.

Nati Nole
07-28-2009, 11:35 PM
We average 4.06 runs per game on the season.

Which is 3rd worst in the NL and last in our division.

Out of curiousity, where does 4.06 rpg rank in the last 25 years of Reds baseball?

WeLoveLarkin!!!
07-28-2009, 11:36 PM
They have 5 wins in games they score 4 or less runs, and 3 when they score 5 or more.

haha. typical reds huh?

GIDP
07-28-2009, 11:38 PM
Out of curiousity, where does 4.06 rpg rank in the last 25 years of Reds baseball?

I have zero clue. I really dont feel like doing that math.

texasdave
07-28-2009, 11:57 PM
The most amazing stat is that for all the lack of offense they have only been shut out once this month.

texasdave
07-29-2009, 12:04 AM
Out of curiousity, where does 4.06 rpg rank in the last 25 years of Reds baseball?

From the Franchise Index at www.baseball-reference.com.


Year R/G Year R/G Year R/G Year R/G Year R/G
2009 4.06 1984 3.87 1959 4.96 1934 3.88 1909 3.86
2008 4.35 1983 3.85 1958 4.51 1933 3.24 1908 3.15
2007 4.83 1982 3.36 1957 4.85 1932 3.71 1907 3.37
2006 4.62 1981 4.30 1956 5.00 1931 3.84 1906 3.44
2005 5.03 1980 4.34 1955 4.94 1930 4.32 1905 4.74
2004 4.63 1979 4.54 1954 4.73 1929 4.43 1904 4.43
2003 4.28 1978 4.41 1953 4.61 1928 4.24 1903 5.43
2002 4.38 1977 4.95 1952 3.99 1927 4.20 1902 4.49
2001 4.54 1976 5.29 1951 3.61 1926 4.76 1901 3.95
2000 5.06 1975 5.19 1950 4.27 1925 4.51 1900 4.88
1999 5.31 1974 4.76 1949 4.02 1924 4.24 1899 5.49
1998 4.63 1973 4.57 1948 3.84 1923 4.60 1898 5.29
1997 4.02 1972 4.59 1947 4.42 1922 4.91 1897 5.69
1996 4.80 1971 3.62 1946 3.35 1921 4.04 1896 6.12
1995 5.19 1970 4.78 1945 3.48 1920 4.15 1895 6.84
1994 5.30 1969 4.90 1944 3.70 1919 4.12 1894 6.89
1993 4.46 1968 4.23 1943 3.92 1918 4.11 1893 5.79
1992 4.07 1967 3.73 1942 3.42 1917 3.83 1892 4.94
1991 4.25 1966 4.33 1941 4.00 1916 3.26 1891 4.68
1990 4.28 1965 5.09 1940 4.56 1915 3.23 1890 5.62
1989 3.90 1964 4.05 1939 4.92 1914 3.38 1889 6.36
1988 3.98 1963 4.00 1938 4.79 1913 3.89 1888 5.44
1987 4.83 1962 4.95 1937 3.95 1912 4.23 1887 6.56
1986 4.52 1961 4.61 1936 4.69 1911 4.29 1886 6.26
1985 4.18 1960 4.16 1935 4.19 1910 3.97 1885 5.73
1884 6.73
1883 6.76
1882 6.11

GIDP
07-29-2009, 12:07 AM
The most amazing stat is that for all the lack of offense they have only been shut out once this month.

Id like to see what the ERA of pitchers faced is. Im expecting it to be near 5. Id look it up but dinner is catching up.

bounty37h
07-29-2009, 11:10 AM
I think we need to bunt more :)

texasdave
07-29-2009, 01:45 PM
Id like to see what the ERA of pitchers faced is. Im expecting it to be near 5. Id look it up but dinner is catching up.

In reality the starting pitching faced by the Reds in July was a bit better than that. Using the stats accumulated up until the time they took the mound against the Reds, starting pitchers totalled 1922 IP and had given up 898 ER. This works out to a 4.20 ERA. NL starters have put up a 4.31 to date this season. So the Reds have faced slightly above league average starting pitching in July. That is bad news for the Reds. Those starting pitchers posted a 3.21 ERA for the month of July versus the hometown boys in red. A run a game on average fewer than might be expected.

Now for the really bad news. In 24 games the Reds have smacked only three starters around for four or more earned runs. This works out to a cool 12.5% of the time. In 14 of the 24 starts the Reds were limited to one or fewer earned runs. This is a hefty 58.3% of the time. Of the 24 opposing starts, 18 (or 75%) were quality starts. Of the six non-quality starts three times the other team's starter only gave up three earned runs, but missed going the requisite six innings by an inning or less. So, altogether, opposing starters limited the Reds to three or fewer earned runs 87.5% of the time.

There's a tear in my beer. :beerme:

Here is the entire sad listing of opposition starters.
ERA = ERA coming into the game.
IP = Innings Pitched in game.
ER = Earned Runs in game.



PITCHER ERA IP ER
Garland 5.04 6.00 1
Davis 3.28 7.00 1
Pineiro 3.44 7.00 2
Thompsn 4.69 5.00 4
Carpntr 2.42 7.00 1
Hamels 4.98 7.00 1
Happ 2.96 7.00 3
Lopez 2.84 5.00 2
Moyer 5.72 5.00 6
Nieve 2.73 6.00 3
Santana 3.29 7.00 0
Pelfrey 4.52 7.00 3
Looper 4.94 5.33 3
Suppan 4.70 6.00 0
Parra 6.78 6.00 1
Galardo 3.22 6.00 3
Schmidt 0.00 5.00 3
Wolf 3.51 7.33 2
Blngsly 3.76 6.00 2
Wells 3.00 6.00 3
Hart 2.30 6.00 1
Harden 4.76 6.00 1
Geer 5.84 4.00 4
Correia 4.84 6.00 2

On a positive note: Nobody, and I do mean nobody, goes eight innings against Cincinnati. Ain't gonna happen.

GIDP
07-29-2009, 01:55 PM
:laugh: I was exaggerating when I said 5 but honestly looking at the list I really wasnt that far off. It just gets worse and worse the more you look at the numbers.