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aubashbrother
07-30-2009, 12:48 PM
on espn news now also www.rotoworld.com

FlyerFanatic
07-30-2009, 12:51 PM
shocker...

GIDP
07-30-2009, 12:58 PM
I honestly dont believe any report about steroids until I see some more proof, but I wouldnt be surprised.

Ohioballplayer
07-30-2009, 01:26 PM
http://msn.foxsports.com/mlb/story/9872366/Report:-Manny,-Big-Papi-on-2003-PED-list

improbus
07-30-2009, 01:33 PM
Part of me wants to see the whole list at once for the shock and awe value of it. But, as a person who wants baseball to suffer and squirm for their reprehensible behavior on the PED front, I love that the names are coming out one at a time. If the whole list was released at one time, the top ten players would take a beating in the media but the lesser players would go under the radar. However, as it is going right now each player is getting the full wrath of a rabid media. Clemens, Sosa, Manny, A-Rod, and now Ortiz have and will spend their time getting hammered in the press and in the public.

texasdave
07-30-2009, 03:02 PM
Part of me wants to see the whole list at once for the shock and awe value of it. But, as a person who wants baseball to suffer and squirm for their reprehensible behavior on the PED front, I love that the names are coming out one at a time. If the whole list was released at one time, the top ten players would take a beating in the media but the lesser players would go under the radar. However, as it is going right now each player is getting the full wrath of a rabid media. Clemens, Sosa, Manny, A-Rod, and now Ortiz have and will spend their time getting hammered in the press and in the public.

:thumbup:

mlh1981
07-30-2009, 05:11 PM
Fans at Dodger Stadium/Fenway Park/Yankee Stadium will be the biggest hypocrites of all for standing up for these guys. You know Ortiz is gonna be crushed the next time they go to Yankee Stadium. He got a standing O at Fenway today. However, I bet those same people were railing against A-Rod. Dodger fans spent YEARS taunting Bonds, but welcomed Bonds back with open arms.

Bottom line is, as fans, as long as you are on THEIR team, they don't care. Integrity and fan outrage stops the moment that a player on YOUR team get nailed.

BlastFurnace
07-30-2009, 05:59 PM
There is not a single ballplayer that I would be shocked at if they found them guilty.

Jack Burton
07-30-2009, 06:19 PM
There is not a single ballplayer that I would be shocked at if they found them guilty.

Griffey?

BlastFurnace
07-30-2009, 06:53 PM
Griffey?

Do I think Griffey did them...No. Would it surprise me if he did...No. Griffey is my favorite player in the Majors. I still check the Seattle boxscores to see how he is doing, but No...not a single player in this era would surprise me...including Griffey. Look at his #'s starting in 1993. Sometimes, I wonder.

GIDP
07-30-2009, 06:54 PM
I wouldnt be surprised by anyone either. I'm serious as you can get. If someone told me Juan Castro failed a test I wouldnt be surprised.

FlyerFanatic
07-30-2009, 06:55 PM
Griffey?

thats the only one for me personally. i wanna believe pujols hasnt touched the stuff, but wouldnt surprise me. i thought a-rod was clean too..so what do i know

GIDP
07-30-2009, 06:55 PM
Boston Roidsox ha get it. did you see what I did there?

texasdave
07-30-2009, 09:07 PM
Players aren't role models. If a player can get away with using steroids more power to him. If you aren't cheating you ain't trying. Blah, blah, blah. I'd kick all the cheating dogs out of the game if I was the commish.

ryanparkersongs
07-30-2009, 11:18 PM
I would be surprised if Griffey did them. That would be very disappointing to me. As it stands now, he is the best "clean" home run hitter of our generation.

George Foster
07-31-2009, 12:18 AM
I don't "get" this list. It's like drip, drip. What the heck? Who has this list? Why does a name get out every few months. Who is asking these questions?

improbus
07-31-2009, 08:25 AM
I don't "get" this list. It's like drip, drip. What the heck? Who has this list? Why does a name get out every few months. Who is asking these questions?

That is the most interesting part of the story. That person is my hero!

improbus
07-31-2009, 10:19 AM
The most deplorable part of these stories are the hometown crowd's reactions. Ortiz got a standing ovation in Boston and Manny has gotten a heroes welcome since coming back in LA. In this whole ridiculous circus, we are the reason that nothing has been done. Our usually tacit and often boisterous approval of players taking 'roids have allowed the players and MLB to take a soft and lazy approach to cleaning the game. SF accommodated Bonds, LA accommodates Manny, Boston accommodates Ortiz, etc... So, here is the question, will Cincy fans boo Arroyo or will we be sheep like everyone else?

GIDP
07-31-2009, 10:41 AM
Id be willing to bet half the Redsox team was juicing or using in some fashion.

Jack Burton
07-31-2009, 11:26 AM
FRAUDS! The rings are tarnished. Ortiz comes out of this looking like the fool that he is. And by now everyone knows manny isn't all there upstairs.