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fewfirstchoice
07-30-2009, 03:58 PM
The owner, the GM, the manager, and most of the players are all jokes. If they dont trade away all they can for prospects there idiots. Harang, Arroyo, EE, Weathers, Rhodes, Cordero, and even Philliups need to be gone. The Reds need to clear money and bring in young talent. Then in the off season make a run at Holliday barring the Cards signing him long term. They also need top find a SS and 1 more starting pitcher. But with this crew its hard to say who they see as a upgrade I just dont trust them.

Brandon4MVP
07-30-2009, 04:06 PM
sounds like you would approve trading the whole mlb team away and just promoting the AAA team?

FlyerFanatic
07-30-2009, 04:07 PM
what do you mean this team is a joke? we traded for Wladimir Balentien, the reds comeback starts NOW!

CySeymour
07-30-2009, 04:10 PM
You're assuming someone would take Arroyo or Harang in a trade. It takes 2 to make a trade.

fewfirstchoice
07-30-2009, 04:19 PM
Yeah Id say bring in some new guys. The guys we have now isnt getting it done are they. Id say keep Votto, Bruce, Volquez, Cueto, Hannigan, Gomes, Burton, Masset, and Bray. Other than that Id trade who I could and get some prospects back in return. Then with the money saved look into FA next season. Sign 1 power OF bat, a SS, and a starting pitcher. That would be a better team than we got right now.

Arroyo and Harang could be traded just not for as much as Walt is probably asking for. Id say if a team will take on all the salary ask for a B level prospect in return.

mlh1981
07-30-2009, 05:07 PM
While I'm extremely frustrated right now, it SHOULD be mentioned that the team has been CRUSHED with injuries this year. If Votto/Bruce/Volquez hadn't missed so much time, they would be much closer to .500. Not that .500 is anything to jump for joy over, but injuries have played a major factor in the destruction of this Reds team.

DTCromer
07-30-2009, 05:18 PM
Yeah Id say bring in some new guys. The guys we have now isnt getting it done are they. Id say keep Votto, Bruce, Volquez, Cueto, Hannigan, Gomes, Burton, Masset, and Bray. Other than that Id trade who I could and get some prospects back in return. Then with the money saved look into FA next season. Sign 1 power OF bat, a SS, and a starting pitcher. That would be a better team than we got right now.

Arroyo and Harang could be traded just not for as much as Walt is probably asking for. Id say if a team will take on all the salary ask for a B level prospect in return.

How is Bruce "getting it done?"

And why trade a gold glove 2B who leads your team in RBI's?

CySeymour
07-30-2009, 05:29 PM
How is Bruce "getting it done?"

And why trade a gold glove 2B who leads your team in RBI's?

Who is affordable AND under your control for a few years.

You still give Bruce some slack. Yeah, he's had about the equivalent to one full year in the bigs...so he still has plenty of time to figure it out.

Shawn_RedsFan
07-30-2009, 05:33 PM
Who is affordable AND under your control for a few years.

You still give Bruce some slack. Yeah, he's had about the equivalent to one full year in the bigs...so he still has plenty of time to figure it out.

he's still only 22 too

BluegrassRedleg
07-30-2009, 05:45 PM
The biggest problem, IMO, is they don't have any kind of plan. They've been half-assing it for a long time. It would be better to follow the blueprint of a team like the Marlins (even though you have to blow it up every 3-4 years) rather than go down this path to nowhere every season.

Commit to the future or go after some LEGIT help. Quit riding the fence.

BigPoppa
07-30-2009, 05:49 PM
While I'm extremely frustrated right now, it SHOULD be mentioned that the team has been CRUSHED with injuries this year. If Votto/Bruce/Volquez hadn't missed so much time, they would be much closer to .500. Not that .500 is anything to jump for joy over, but injuries have played a major factor in the destruction of this Reds team.

I agree. While the injury situation doesn't by any means completely explain the frustration, it has been a major factor since almost right after Spring Training. The term "decimated by injuries" gets thrown around a lot, but we really have had more than our share.

Again, injuries doesn't explain away all of our problems, but no doubt been a factor.

Red in Atl
07-30-2009, 05:53 PM
I just checked the score after a day of meetings. I'm just in total disbelief. Is there one guy on the is team that even gives a crap? The last two days are a complete embarrassment.

I'm done. Trade everyone. Except who would want any one them. Keep Bruce, Votto, Cueto, Bailey, Hanigan and Volquez and the hell with everyone else. I bet Louisville could play the Padres this well, and I personally think they would take the series.

During the offseason, if even one of these pathetic excuses for a MLB player even hints at a raise, trade him, put him on waivers, throw him in the garbage. This entire team should forego their paychecks for the way they've played in July.

Obivously I'm so pissed I can't even make any sense. But this is an outrage for these guys to suck as bad as they do. These are the top 30-35 guys (considering injuries) that this organization throws out there?

I really wish someone from another city would buy this team, so they might have a chance over the brainiacs that have run this franchise into the ground.

FRAK YOU Bob Castellini and everyone who works for you! You have made me begin to hate one of the few things that I unconditionally love in life, The Cincinnati Reds.

BlastFurnace
07-30-2009, 05:57 PM
The owner, the GM, the manager, and most of the players are all jokes. If they dont trade away all they can for prospects there idiots. Harang, Arroyo, EE, Weathers, Rhodes, Cordero, and even Philliups need to be gone. The Reds need to clear money and bring in young talent. Then in the off season make a run at Holliday barring the Cards signing him long term. They also need top find a SS and 1 more starting pitcher. But with this crew its hard to say who they see as a upgrade I just dont trust them.

I guess the new "5 Year Plan" is inevitable.

This is one of the worst Reds teams that I can remember.

Jack Burton
07-30-2009, 06:22 PM
What does dusty have to do to get fired? And the rest of the coaching staff? Sickening.

steig
07-30-2009, 06:31 PM
The biggest problem, IMO, is they don't have any kind of plan. They've been half-assing it for a long time. It would be better to follow the blueprint of a team like the Marlins (even though you have to blow it up every 3-4 years) rather than go down this path to nowhere every season.

Commit to the future or go after some LEGIT help. Quit riding the fence.

Well said :clap: I couldn't agree more.

Redeye fly
07-30-2009, 06:50 PM
Sadly though, when it comes to going after legit help, the way the game is, I don't know if they can. Put it this way... they'll never get the biggest free agents, unless for some reason one of them actually wants to come here. But they'll never be able to offer as much as the Yankees, Red Sox, Dodgers, Mets, or Cubs. Last year most everyone thought Sabathia would stay in the National League so he could hit, and maybe go to the Dodgers so he could go back to the west coast. Then the Yankees come along, offer 10 truckloads of money, and he goes to the Big Apple.

But I do agree. They've been on that fence for a long time.

redsfanmia
07-30-2009, 07:14 PM
This is one of the worst Reds teams that I can remember.

1982 says Hello.

Carin4Narron
07-30-2009, 07:17 PM
The owner, the GM, the manager, and most of the players are all jokes. If they dont trade away all they can for prospects there idiots. Harang, Arroyo, EE, Weathers, Rhodes, Cordero, and even Philliups need to be gone. The Reds need to clear money and bring in young talent. Then in the off season make a run at Holliday barring the Cards signing him long term. They also need top find a SS and 1 more starting pitcher. But with this crew its hard to say who they see as a upgrade I just dont trust them.Aren't you tired of prospects? I am!!!!!!!!!!!

BlastFurnace
07-30-2009, 07:53 PM
1982 says Hello.

I remember that team well. That was an aweful team.

BlastFurnace
07-30-2009, 07:54 PM
Aren't you tired of prospects? I am!!!!!!!!!!!

I'm tired of prospects that don't pan out. The Reds farm system is all smoke and no fire.

JayBruce
07-30-2009, 08:05 PM
At this rate, we may get the chance to draft Bryce Harper and watch his career collapse under the weight of his own hype. So at least there's that...

Hondo
07-30-2009, 10:53 PM
Well, the problem is they are running out Bench guys as Starters...

Why weren't they on top of the Cliff Lee sweepstakes... They could have put together a package of Players similar to what Philadelphia gave up and had an 8 Million option ona Cy Young Winner for 2010...

Scott Rolen? That trade came 5 years too LATE!!!

This guy from Seattle? I don't understand this move unless Manuel was in his 6th year, and no I didn't look this up!

DTCromer
07-30-2009, 11:39 PM
he's still only 22 too

They said that about Austin Kearns too.

Carin4Narron
07-31-2009, 09:10 AM
I'm tired of prospects that don't pan out. The Reds farm system is all smoke and no fire.

Most of the farm systems are,man! The few teams that have good farm systems are run well and are winning, therefore don't need the Reds crap!