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GOYA
08-02-2009, 06:13 PM
Matt Klinker will be starting for Louisville @ 6:15, his AAA debut.

Stubbs CF .278
Bolivar 2B .242
McDonald RF .322
Barker DH .283
Heisey LF .277
Bankston 1B .252
Valaika SS .202
Griffin 3B .221
Miller C .220

Klinker P

OnBaseMachine
08-02-2009, 06:16 PM
Mark Serrano pitched another good game for Dayton: 5 IP, 2 H, 0 R, 1 BB, 4 K. Fellhauer is 1-for-3 with a HR (#5), a HBP, and 2 RBI.

Ken Griffey Sr. on Josh Fellhauer:

“I think our (minor-league) system’s pretty strong,” Griffey said. “I think our younger pitchers are going to be pretty strong.”

The Dragons ended up losing in the ninth 5-4, though newly acquired center fielder Josh Fellhauer caught Griffey’s eye. Fellhauer went 2-for-5 on the night and his two-run RBI triple in the sixth was an offensive highlight.

“He reminds me a little of Chase — he has a swing like Utley’s,” Griffey said. “I watched Chase from AA until he got to the big leagues.”

“I’ll take that,” Fellhauer said with a laugh. “(Utley) stays inside on the ball and sends it to all fields.”

http://www.daytondailynews.com/dayton-sports/dayton-dragons/griffey-sr-sees-bees-sting-dragons-232072.html

GOYA
08-02-2009, 06:17 PM
Carolina is down 6-1 in the 4th

Sarasota lost 4-3

Dayton is up 7-1 in the 9th

GCL Reds lost 9-3 - Billy went 2 for 4

GIDP
08-02-2009, 06:19 PM
Mark Serrano pitched another good game for Dayton: 5 IP, 2 H, 0 R, 1 BB, 4 K. Fellhauer is 1-for-3 with a HR (#5), a HBP, and 2 RBI.

Ken Griffey Sr. on Josh Fellhauer:

“I think our (minor-league) system’s pretty strong,” Griffey said. “I think our younger pitchers are going to be pretty strong.”

The Dragons ended up losing in the ninth 5-4, though newly acquired center fielder Josh Fellhauer caught Griffey’s eye. Fellhauer went 2-for-5 on the night and his two-run RBI triple in the sixth was an offensive highlight.

“He reminds me a little of Chase — he has a swing like Utley’s,” Griffey said. “I watched Chase from AA until he got to the big leagues.”

“I’ll take that,” Fellhauer said with a laugh. “(Utley) stays inside on the ball and sends it to all fields.”

http://www.daytondailynews.com/dayton-sports/dayton-dragons/griffey-sr-sees-bees-sting-dragons-232072.html

Nice little blurb. Hopefully he can do as well as I think he can. I like Fellhauer a lot.

GOYA
08-02-2009, 06:20 PM
Correction, Dayton won in 8 innings.

GOYA
08-02-2009, 06:22 PM
Klinker gets 'em 1-2-3 in the 1st

GIDP
08-02-2009, 06:25 PM
Stubbs on after an error but sounded like Stubbs speed might have caused it a little just by making the infielder rush.

dougdirt
08-02-2009, 06:27 PM
Stubbs on after an error but sounded like Stubbs speed might have caused it a little just by making the infielder rush.

Fielder had problems transferring the ball from the glove to his hand. Just a quick bobble, but with Stubbs speed its all he needed.

GIDP
08-02-2009, 06:28 PM
Stubbs thrown out stealing. only 7th time this year.

GOYA
08-02-2009, 06:28 PM
Stubbs reaches on an error and gets caught stealing.

GOYA
08-02-2009, 06:39 PM
Chris Denove has been moved up to AAA and Brian Peterson was released.

GOYA
08-02-2009, 06:53 PM
Rough 2nd


Player IP H R ER BB SO HR ERA
Klinker 2.0 2 2 2 3 1 0 9.00

Pitches-strikes Klinker 59-32 - 54%

GOYA
08-02-2009, 07:01 PM
Barker walk
Heisey single
Bankston RBI single

Bats down 2-1

GOYA
08-02-2009, 07:04 PM
Griffin knocks in Heisey on a FC

A good throw would have had him easy

Tied 2-2

GOYA
08-02-2009, 07:06 PM
Corky RBI single scores Bankston

3-2 Bats

GOYA
08-02-2009, 07:11 PM
Griffin RBI single plates Griffin

4-2 Bats

HokieRed
08-02-2009, 07:11 PM
Carolina's getting killed but Frazier is 2 for 3 and, more interestingly, playing 2b again.

GOYA
08-02-2009, 07:11 PM
Double steal (Stubbs 41 and Bolivar 15)

KoryMac5
08-02-2009, 07:24 PM
Carolina's getting killed but Frazier is 2 for 3 and, more interestingly, playing 2b again.

Could we be seeing Phillips at SS and Frazier at 2nd base?

11larkin11
08-02-2009, 07:44 PM
Could we be seeing Phillips at SS and Frazier at 2nd base?

Please God

GOYA
08-02-2009, 07:46 PM
Klinker gives way to Lee Tabor after 3.2 innings and 90 pitches

Valaika opens the bottom of the 4th with a well hit double

nemesis
08-02-2009, 07:49 PM
Chris Denove has been moved up to AAA and Brian Peterson was released.

Ok? Why why why is Denove getting promoted and Frazier is not? Doug?

GOYA
08-02-2009, 07:50 PM
5-3 Bats

Bolivar hits a bases loaded bad hop to 3B. E5

GOYA
08-02-2009, 07:51 PM
WP

6-3 Bats

GOYA
08-02-2009, 07:52 PM
They are walking McD to load the bases for Barker.

GOYA
08-02-2009, 07:54 PM
Barker pulls one into RF

8-3 Bats

SirFelixCat
08-02-2009, 08:22 PM
I swear I get more "up" for the Bats games (or at least pbp here) than I do the Reds these days.

redhawk61
08-02-2009, 08:24 PM
Ok? Why why why is Denove getting promoted and Frazier is not? Doug?
I'm wondering this too. Doug, do you have any idea why Fraizer isn't in AAA

GOYA
08-02-2009, 08:26 PM
Tabor gets a little welcome to AAA

8-5 Bats


Player IP H R ER BB SO HR ERA
Klinkr 3.2 5 3 3 4 1 0 7.36
Tabor 2.1 3 2 2 1 0 1 7.71

GOYA
08-02-2009, 08:35 PM
Tabor comes back strong in the 7th

2 Ks and a weak fly

GOYA
08-02-2009, 08:39 PM
Barker with a gift double. Fielder must have lost it in the twilight.

Mario-Rijo
08-02-2009, 08:51 PM
Ok? Why why why is Denove getting promoted and Frazier is not? Doug?

Frazier is gonna be handled very carefully they seem to want him to be as polished as he is talented. However I have to wonder about these guys sometimes, Frazier spent nearly the whole season in High A and now Double A in back to back years while doing great, why? OTOH they are pushing Mesoraco every year despite the fact he hasn't yet had sustained success. I don't get their methods. Push guys doing subpar and hold back the guy doing well? Most good players make the bigs at 23-24 Frazier is 23 and at his current pace will be in the majors no sooner than 25, maybe longer if he does really well. :confused:

GIDP
08-02-2009, 08:55 PM
Could we be seeing Phillips at SS and Frazier at 2nd base?

Of all the options this is the least likely to happen because its the most logical. Instead we block frazier and sign orlando cabrera for 7 million.

GOYA
08-02-2009, 09:09 PM
Bats win 8-5

Kennard's streak of no earned runs extends.

GOYA
08-02-2009, 09:11 PM
Player AB R H 2B 3B HR RBI BB SO AVG
Stubbs CF 4 1 0 0 0 0 0 1 1 .275
Bolivar 2B 5 1 1 0 0 0 2 0 0 .241
McDonald RF 3 0 0 0 0 0 0 1 0 .318
Barker DH 3 1 2 1 0 0 2 1 0 .287
Heisey LF 4 1 1 0 0 0 0 0 2 .276
Bankston 1B 4 1 1 0 0 0 1 0 0 .252
Valaika SS 4 1 1 0 0 0 0 0 0 .203
Griffin 3B 4 2 0 0 0 0 1 0 0 .214
Miller C 3 0 2 1 0 0 1 0 1 .242

Player IP H R ER BB SO HR ERA
Klinker 3.2 5 3 3 4 1 0 7.36
Tabor (W, 1-0) 3.1 3 2 2 1 2 1 5.40
Kennard, J (S, 2) 2.0 1 0 0 1 1 0 2.42

Mario-Rijo
08-02-2009, 09:18 PM
Of all the options this is the least likely to happen because its the most logical. Instead we block frazier and sign orlando cabrera for 7 million.

No offense but I think it's very illogical. Frazier is a Jeff Kent like 2B at best (i'm speaking defensively). Not a good 2B prospect IMO. Valaika perhaps but not Frazier. Based on their talent/skill levels I see the team like this going into 2011 as the best and most logical lineup.

CF - Stubbs/Dickerson
1B - Alonso
LF - Votto
2B - BP
RF - Bruce
3B - Frazier
SS - Cozart
C - Hanigan

Bench:
Dickerson - OF
Heisey - OF
Rosales - UT
Valaika - IF/MIF
Tatum - C ???

And honestly I really like that team if Dusty isn't managing it. I also could see Balentein sticking but that's more a wishful thinking kind of deal right now.

chicoruiz
08-03-2009, 12:13 AM
I know this was from way back in the thread, but I have to comment on this:


Griffin RBI single plates Griffin

Now THAT'S impressive...Very Cool Papa Bell-ish...

GOYA
08-03-2009, 03:21 AM
I know this was from way back in the thread, but I have to comment on this:



Now THAT'S impressive...Very Cool Papa Bell-ish...

Too many things going on at once. :confused:

(It was Bolivar's RBI single)

BRM
08-03-2009, 10:35 AM
Frazier is gonna be handled very carefully they seem to want him to be as polished as he is talented. However I have to wonder about these guys sometimes, Frazier spent nearly the whole season in High A and now Double A in back to back years while doing great, why? OTOH they are pushing Mesoraco every year despite the fact he hasn't yet had sustained success. I don't get their methods. Push guys doing subpar and hold back the guy doing well? Most good players make the bigs at 23-24 Frazier is 23 and at his current pace will be in the majors no sooner than 25, maybe longer if he does really well. :confused:

Maybe the Reds are simply shining up Frazier to be used as trade bait this winter. Same thing for Stubbs and/or Heisey.

Scrap Irony
08-03-2009, 10:41 AM
That's my guess, BRM. And I'm okay if one of them goes. But I really like Frazier (especially as the middle infielder he's played lately in AA) and one of Stubbs or Heisey could supplant and produce as well as Taveras right now.

Hopefully, he gets something for them, at least.

Sigh.

BRM
08-03-2009, 10:54 AM
I just can't figure out any other reason for Frazier not being promoted. The only thing that comes to mind is that maybe the Reds want him and Valaika both playing 2B for now.

HokieRed
08-03-2009, 11:03 AM
Best player on the Reds right now, apart from Scott Rolen, is Joey Votto, who, IIRC, spent one whole season at each stop along the minor league way. Other guys, pushed faster, have struggled. It's not the worst thing for Frazier to be getting lots of AB's at AA. We don't know specifically what they want him to work on right now. It looks like he doesn't figure in the timetable for opening day, 2010, so he's going to spend a lot of time next year at AAA. Whether that starts now or April 2010 seems pretty unimportant, IMO.

GOYA
08-03-2009, 11:21 AM
Agreed.

It looks to me like the Reds are very patient with the guys they think will play for them. The guys that they rush up to the higher levels are all expendable.

TRF
08-03-2009, 11:38 AM
Agreed.

It looks to me like the Reds are very patient with the guys they think will play for them. The guys that they rush up to the higher levels are all expendable.

Bruce was rushed.

Cueto was rushed.

Sometimes guys kick the door down. Doesn't mean they won't struggle. And the fact that both have struggled at times MIGHT be the reason for Frazier being slowed down. Then again it could have something to do with his 2 month decline in numbers. Spectacular May followed by a very good June and a somewhat average July. Maybe the Reds need to see how he handles pitchers that have seen him a few times. Or at least how opposing pitching coaches instruct their pitchers to pitch to him. The game is all about adjustments.

Then again, maybe he's being shined up to acquire a 37 year old SS.

GIDP
08-03-2009, 11:43 AM
Maybe hes being shined up for Carlos Beltran and his career ending bone bruise.